Re: why are CAs charging so much for certs anyway? (Re: End of the line for Ireland's dotcom star)

2003-09-25 Thread Damian Gerow
On Wed, 24 Sep 2003 15:33:56 -0700, thus spake Adam Back [EMAIL PROTECTED]: : You'd have thought there would be plenty of scope for certs to be sold : for a couple of $ / year. Eg. by one of the registrars bundling a : cert with your domain registration. I mean if someone can provide DNS :

Re: why are CAs charging so much for certs anyway? (Re: End of the line for Ireland's dotcom star)

2003-09-25 Thread Dave Howe
Joel Sing wrote: Hi Adam, I believe they have, at least to a large degree. InstantSSL (www.instantssl.com) sell 128-bit certificates for $49USD/annum. Certainly far cheaper than the VeriSign or Thawte equivalent. This is their 'base' level service which comes with a $50USD warranty, email

Re: why are CAs charging so much for certs anyway? (Re: End of the line for Ireland's dotcom star)

2003-09-25 Thread Peter Gutmann
Ed Gerck [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: PRICING STRATEGY: CAs should keep their prices high and find ways to add price to current products (eg, offering insurance, different certificate classes, benefits for CRL access, etc.) -- because the potentially difficult mid-term future of such business impose

Re: why are CAs charging so much for certs anyway? (Re: End of the line for Ireland's dotcom star)

2003-09-24 Thread Ian Grigg
Adam Back wrote: You'd have thought there would be plenty of scope for certs to be sold for a couple of $ / year. Excuse me? Why are they being sold per year in the first place? It's not as if there are any root servers to run! Outrageous! :-) iang

Re: why are CAs charging so much for certs anyway? (Re: End of the line for Ireland's dotcom star)

2003-09-24 Thread Ed Gerck
Yes, there is a good reason for CAs to charge so much for certs. I hope this posting is able to set this clear once and for all. FOREWORD: It's often said that a good lawyer should be able to argue both sides of an issue... Though I am not a lawyer, I believe it is instructive to see things

Re: why are CAs charging so much for certs anyway? (Re: End of the line for Ireland's dotcom star)

2003-09-24 Thread Adam Back
On Wed, Sep 24, 2003 at 05:40:38PM -0700, Ed Gerck wrote: Yes, there is a good reason for CAs to charge so much for certs. I hope this posting is able to set this clear once and for all. [zero risk, zero cost, zero liability, zero regulatory burden] 9. Product Price: At Will. There is no

Re: why are CAs charging so much for certs anyway? (Re: End of the line for Ireland's dotcom star)

2003-09-24 Thread Joel Sing
Hi Adam, That was my point and why I said I don't see any reason cert prices with reasonable competition couldn't fall to a few dollars/year. I believe they have, at least to a large degree. InstantSSL (www.instantssl.com) sell 128-bit certificates for $49USD/annum. Certainly far cheaper than