Re: [cryptography] Compromised Sys Admin Hunters and Tor

2014-03-24 Thread Nico Williams
On Sat, Mar 22, 2014 at 12:59 AM, Stephan Neuhaus stephan.neuh...@tik.ee.ethz.ch wrote: On 2014-03-22, 04:28, Nico Williams wrote: Insiders are always your biggest threat. I'm always interested in empirical evidence for the things that we believe to be true. Do you have any? [The context was

Re: [cryptography] Compromised Sys Admin Hunters and Tor

2014-03-22 Thread Jane
Not to intrude onto a finely crafted discourse, but I saw nothing particularly damning with regards to the brief Dingledine gave to NSA. Talking to NSA politely != installing backdoors into people's stuff. He didn't say anything we did not know, and the only revelation, as far as I am concerned,

Re: [cryptography] Compromised Sys Admin Hunters and Tor

2014-03-21 Thread coderman
On Fri, Mar 21, 2014 at 5:01 AM, John Young j...@pipeline.com wrote: Sys admins catch you hunting them and arrange compromises to fit your demands so you can crow about how skilled you are. Then you hire them after being duped as you duped to be hired. everything old is new again, betrayals

Re: [cryptography] Compromised Sys Admin Hunters and Tor

2014-03-21 Thread dan
At this point, one can but humbly remember John 8:7, ...He that is without sin among you, let him first cast a stone... --dan ___ cryptography mailing list cryptography@randombit.net http://lists.randombit.net/mailman/listinfo/cryptography

Re: [cryptography] Compromised Sys Admin Hunters and Tor

2014-03-21 Thread Nico Williams
On Fri, Mar 21, 2014 at 7:01 AM, John Young j...@pipeline.com wrote: Sys admins catch you hunting them and arrange compromises to fit your demands so you can crow about how skilled you are. Insiders are always your biggest threat. Then you hire them after being duped as you duped to be hired.