Re: [cryptography] NSA Said to Exploit Heartbleed Bug for Intelligence for Years

2014-04-24 Thread Florian Weimer
2. Score another 1 up for interpreted languages that handle array allocation cleanly. This is more or less a buffer overflow, in a wider sense. Virtually the same bug can occur (and has occurred) in memory-safe languages due to buffer reuse. Go was mentioned elsewhere in this thread, so

Re: [cryptography] NSA Said to Exploit Heartbleed Bug for Intelligence for Years

2014-04-12 Thread Michael Rogers
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 On 11/04/14 23:51, ianG wrote: 2. Score another 1 up for interpreted languages that handle array allocation cleanly. This is more or less a buffer overflow, in a wider sense. Not just interpreted languages - a modern compiled language such as

Re: [cryptography] NSA Said to Exploit Heartbleed Bug for Intelligence for Years

2014-04-12 Thread Lee
On 4/11/14, ianG i...@iang.org wrote: On 11/04/2014 17:50 pm, Jeffrey Walton wrote: http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2014-04-11/nsa-said-to-have-used-heartbleed-bug-exposing-consumers.html The U.S. National Security Agency knew for at least two years about a flaw in the way that many websites

Re: [cryptography] NSA Said to Exploit Heartbleed Bug for Intelligence for Years

2014-04-12 Thread ianG
On 11/04/2014 19:36 pm, Arshad Noor wrote: On 04/11/2014 03:51 PM, ianG wrote: On 11/04/2014 17:50 pm, Jeffrey Walton wrote: http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2014-04-11/nsa-said-to-have-used-heartbleed-bug-exposing-consumers.html The U.S. National Security Agency knew for at least two years

Re: [cryptography] NSA Said to Exploit Heartbleed Bug for Intelligence for Years

2014-04-12 Thread dan
I'm guessing open source just makes it more likely the bug will eventually be published. If one assumes that failures will happen, then open source is to be preferred insofar as in that case (the collective) we can learn something from said failures. That being so, then the more one depends

Re: [cryptography] NSA Said to Exploit Heartbleed Bug for Intelligence for Years

2014-04-12 Thread Arshad Noor
On 04/12/2014 08:33 AM, ianG wrote: Open source makes this *everyone at risk*. I would argue that a single closed-source operating system has done more damage, cumulatively, over the last 20 years than all FOSS combined (no hard evidence, just gut-instinct and personal observations). But

Re: [cryptography] NSA Said to Exploit Heartbleed Bug for Intelligence for Years

2014-04-12 Thread Arshad Noor
On 04/12/2014 08:59 AM, d...@geer.org wrote: I'm guessing open source just makes it more likely the bug will eventually be published. If one assumes that failures will happen, then open source is to be preferred insofar as in that case (the collective) we can learn something from said

Re: [cryptography] NSA Said to Exploit Heartbleed Bug for Intelligence for Years

2014-04-11 Thread shawn wilson
So I trust EFF's analysis more here. However this is newer than the latest article I've seen from EFF. So, where's Bloomberg's technical analysis on the subject? On Apr 11, 2014 5:50 PM, Jeffrey Walton noloa...@gmail.com wrote:

Re: [cryptography] NSA Said to Exploit Heartbleed Bug for Intelligence for Years

2014-04-11 Thread ianG
On 11/04/2014 17:50 pm, Jeffrey Walton wrote: http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2014-04-11/nsa-said-to-have-used-heartbleed-bug-exposing-consumers.html The U.S. National Security Agency knew for at least two years about a flaw in the way that many websites send sensitive information, now dubbed

Re: [cryptography] NSA Said to Exploit Heartbleed Bug for Intelligence for Years

2014-04-11 Thread Arshad Noor
On 04/11/2014 03:51 PM, ianG wrote: On 11/04/2014 17:50 pm, Jeffrey Walton wrote: http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2014-04-11/nsa-said-to-have-used-heartbleed-bug-exposing-consumers.html The U.S. National Security Agency knew for at least two years about a flaw in the way that many websites send