Re: I'm looking for FSE2001 proceedings

2001-07-18 Thread Paul Crowley

Helger Lipmaa <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> If you want to get final versions, contact the authors. It is also mostly
> up to them to put their papers on their homepages - some authors do, some
> don't: mind that not all of them have time or possibilities to maintain a
> homepage.

Two of the papers are on my web pages: Scott Fluhrer's on breaking my
cipher Mercy, and Stefan Lucks and mine on breaking Leviathan:

http://www.cluefactory.org.uk/paul/mercy/fluhrer-dc.html
http://www.ciphergoth.org/leviathan
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Re: I'm looking for FSE2001 proceedings

2001-07-19 Thread Pete Chown

dmolnar wrote:

> For what it's worth, this is not my experience. While not every paper is
> online, a large number of people make papers available from their web
> pages.

I've been trying to get hold of Hans Dobbertin's results on MD4, which
was the original reason for my comment.  Are these available on the
web anywhere?  I can't find them.

I've seen a simplified version of MD4 in use which I think is an
interesting target for cryptanalysis.  One assumes that since MD4 is
not collision free the simplified version is not.  I would like to see
if preimage attacks are possible on the simplified version.
(Collision resistance is not actually important for the application
where the simplified MD4 is in use.)

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Pete



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Re: I'm looking for FSE2001 proceedings

2001-07-18 Thread Dean Povey


>It's been a while since looking at the Springer-Verlag copyright notice. I
>remember that it allows authors to publish papers on their web pages. Is
>this correct?
>
>What are the ACM and IEEE copyright terms like? Do they also allow
>publication on the web?

I believe these terms also apply for ACM publications (but you might want
to check), not sure about IEEE.



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Re: I'm looking for FSE2001 proceedings

2001-07-18 Thread Pete Chown

Alex Alten wrote:

> Does anyone know where I could purchase or get the papers submitted
> to the Fast Software Encryption Workshop 2001?  Springer-Verlag
> does not have it available for purchase yet.

It's annoying that crypto papers hardly ever seem to be made available
online.  I wonder if there is any chance of crypto researchers joining
the scientific journal boycott...

The boycott is described here among other places:

http://www.scientificamerican.com/explorations/2001/042301publish/
http://slashdot.org/science/01/04/24/149257_F.shtml

Basically the researchers, who are currently mostly in the life
sciences, want papers published freely on the web after six months.
So if you need completely up to date information, you buy the
journal.  If you aren't bothered you can look on the web.  According
to the Scientific American article they have 15,000 researchers
including several Nobel prize winners.

This wouldn't help Alex, though...  :-(

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Re: I'm looking for FSE2001 proceedings

2001-07-18 Thread dmolnar



On Wed, 18 Jul 2001, Pete Chown wrote:

> > to the Fast Software Encryption Workshop 2001?  Springer-Verlag
> > does not have it available for purchase yet.

It also doesn't seem to be on Springer LINK yet.


> It's annoying that crypto papers hardly ever seem to be made available
> online.  I wonder if there is any chance of crypto researchers joining
> the scientific journal boycott...

For what it's worth, this is not my experience. While not every paper is
online, a large number of people make papers available from their web
pages.

Plus I'm very lucky in that my library subscribes to the online Springer
LINK service.

> Basically the researchers, who are currently mostly in the life
> sciences, want papers published freely on the web after six months.

It's been a while since looking at the Springer-Verlag copyright notice. I
remember that it allows authors to publish papers on their web pages. Is
this correct?

What are the ACM and IEEE copyright terms like? Do they also allow
publication on the web?

Computer science might have it better than the life sciences in this
regard. de facto if not de jure.

-David





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Re: I'm looking for FSE2001 proceedings

2001-07-18 Thread Helger Lipmaa

On Wed, 18 Jul 2001, Alex Alten wrote:

> Does anyone know where I could purchase or get the papers submitted
> to the Fast Software Encryption Workshop 2001?  Springer-Verlag
> does not have it available for purchase yet.  I looked at the Web
> site (url below) and emailed the 2 Japanese fellows apparently
> running it but they have yet to respond.  Any pointers or help
> would be most appreciated.  I'm cc'ing cyperpunks and cryptography
> mailing lists as well.
>
> http://www.venus.dti.ne.jp/~matsui/FSE2001/

I am one of the authors of one of the papers there. As far as I know, only
preproceedings are available until now - the deadline to send the final
version to Matsui was at the end of May. It is no wonder it takes time to
publish the final proceedings. On the other hand, preproceedings were (I
think) printed in a small quantity and mostly for the conference
participants. You may still inquery Matsumoto Matsui about their
availability, but doubt in it. Moreover, preproceedings *really* contained
*prefinal* versions of the papers.

If you want to get final versions, contact the authors. It is also mostly
up to them to put their papers on their homepages - some authors do, some
don't: mind that not all of them have time or possibilities to maintain a
homepage.

Helger
http://www.tcs.hut.fi/~helger




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