archives?

2001-06-27 Thread max curious

Hello, I remember there was a thread regarding cracking the enigma machine and how
the code breakers did not want to consider the simplest cases and as a result it
took several years longer to 'crack' it. I think it was an article, but where and
when (and on which mailing list I saw it and precisely what it was about) I can not
remember. I apologize for being so vague but if someone could point me to the
archives of this list or point me to the correct email OR to the correct mailing
list - that would be great.



Thank you for your time

Max




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Re: archives?

2001-06-28 Thread Antonomasia

From: max curious <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

> Hello, I remember there was a thread regarding cracking the
> enigma machine and how the code breakers did not want to
> consider the simplest cases and as a result it took several
> years longer to 'crack' it. I think it was an article, but where
> and when (and on which mailing list I saw it and precisely what
> it was about) I can not remember. I apologize for being so vague
> but if someone could point me to the archives of this list or
> point me to the correct email OR to the correct mailing list -
> that would be great.

Sending "grep enigma" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] would have returned
(among other things)

[EMAIL PROTECTED]
from: william knowles <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: 23apr2001
Subject: Key to breaking Nazi code was in the patent office
Keywords:
  12: BRITAIN'S wartime codebreakers could have cracked the German Enigma
  25: manufactured it, had offered the British Government commercial Enigma
  33: thought, British codebreakers were working on the Enigma machine
  37: after gaining vital help from the Poles. The Enigma machine looked
  46: who broke Enigma. "When they had a perfect opportunity to introduce a
  57: Six months later, codebreakers made their first break into Enigma,

and "get [EMAIL PROTECTED]"
gets you the article.

Use of the Subject: field for "coderpunks" or "cryptography" limits the
search to one list instead of both.

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Re: archives?

2001-06-28 Thread Sandy Harris

max curious wrote:
> 
> Hello, I remember there was a thread regarding cracking the enigma machine and how
> the code breakers did not want to consider the simplest cases and as a result it
> took several years longer to 'crack' it. ...
 
One place to lokk is the web site for Bletchley Park:
http://www.bletchleypark.org.uk/



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Re: archives?

2001-06-29 Thread Steven M. Bellovin

In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, max curious writes:
>Hello, I remember there was a thread regarding cracking the enigma machine and
> how
>the code breakers did not want to consider the simplest cases and as a result 
>it
>took several years longer to 'crack' it. I think it was an article, but where 
>and
>when (and on which mailing list I saw it and precisely what it was about) I ca
>n not
>remember. I apologize for being so vague but if someone could point me to the
>archives of this list or point me to the correct email OR to the correct maili
>ng
>list - that would be great.

I'm not 100% certain what you're referring to.  However, there was 
considerable confusion early on about the keyboard encoding -- was 'A' 
mapped to 'A', etc., or was there (effectively) an unkeyed 
monoalphabetic substitution first.  IT turned out that it was just a 
straight-through mapping, but they hadn't tried that.

--Steve Bellovin, http://www.research.att.com/~smb





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