Re: [css-d] Positioning to top, pushing down to bottom

2005-07-19 Thread Christian Heilmann
I want to put the navbar at the *end* of the html, and use CSSP to dispkay it at the top. Easy enough. But, is there anyway to have it automatically push down the content that would have been on the top otherwise? Right now, they are somewhat overlapping. Positioned elements are taken out

Re: [css-d] Floating tables

2005-07-19 Thread Christian Heilmann
Table criticisms aside, is it possible to float a short narrow table into the top-right corner of a longer wider table, such that shortnarrow looks like a column of longwide? My aim is to have the text in longwide flow around the bottom of shortnarrow when the latter finishes. what is

Re: [css-d] Floating tables

2005-07-19 Thread Kelly Miller
Christian Heilmann wrote: what is wrong with div class=longtext p class=shorttextShort Short/p /p pLong Long Long Long Long Long Long Long Long Long Long Long Long Long Long Long Long Long Long Long Long Long Long Long Long Long Long Long /p /div and p.shorttext{

Re: [css-d] Firefox not showing background image in isolated code

2005-07-19 Thread matt andrews
On 7/19/05, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: See picture here of Firefox and IE. http://webmarksonline.com/temp/test.gif What you see in IE is what I want. Why is Firefox not rending the background image of this page here http://webmarksonline.com/temp/test.htm There is not

Re: [css-d] Floating tables

2005-07-19 Thread Christian Heilmann
div class=longtext p class=shorttextShort Short/p pLong Long Long Long Long Long Long Long Long Long Long Long Long Long Long Long Long Long Long Long Long Long Long Long Long Long Long Long /p /div and p.shorttext{ float:left;width:8em;} Tables for non-tabular data is

Re: [css-d] Floating tables

2005-07-19 Thread Kelly Miller
Christian Heilmann wrote: div class=longtext p class=shorttextShort Short/p pLong Long Long Long Long Long Long Long Long Long Long Long Long Long Long Long Long Long Long Long Long Long Long Long Long Long Long Long /p /div and p.shorttext{ float:left;width:8em;} Tables for

Re: [css-d] Floating tables

2005-07-19 Thread Paul Novitski
At 07:37 PM 7/18/2005, Bill Hely wrote: Table criticisms aside, is it possible to float a short narrow table into the top-right corner of a longer wider table, such that shortnarrow looks like a column of longwide? My aim is to have the text in longwide flow around the bottom of shortnarrow

Re: [css-d] IE problems

2005-07-19 Thread Schalk Neethling
Thanks for the info David. David Laakso wrote: Schalk Neethling wrote: Greetings All I wonder how many posts has had that subject :) Anyway, I have a problem occurring in IE Win. Please have a look at the following page: http://www.volume4.com/caradvisory/index.html As you will see in

[css-d] Typography and CSS

2005-07-19 Thread designer
Could someone please recommend a book which deals fully with typography and web design (ie, CSS, primarily :-). I've Googled and got a zillion hits, mainly web sites of course, many concentrating on which units to use. What I'm after really is a book which covers typography in the same way

Re: [css-d] Typography and CSS

2005-07-19 Thread Schalk Neethling
An absolutely beautiful book is: *The Zen of CSS Design: Visual Enlightenment for the Web* By Dave Shea http://www.informit.com/author_bio.asp/ISBN=0321303474, Molly E. Holzschlag http://www.informit.com/author_bio.asp/ISBN=0321303474 designer wrote: Could someone please recommend a book

RE: [css-d] bizarre top margin exception behaviour in IE6

2005-07-19 Thread jérôme coupé
Hello Julia, I do not have time right now for a full check but I would go for the infamous guillotine bug described here (with fix): http://www.positioniseverything.net/explorer/guillotine.html HTH, Jérôme Coupé -- http://www.polarfoundation.org

[css-d] The secret handshake?

2005-07-19 Thread Tanya Renne
So I've posted three things to this list and not gotten any response at all. I've helped out several others on issues - but no nibbles on my problems ... do I have the secret handshake wrong or something? -- Tanya Orchid Suites, Inc.

[css-d] WIKI changes: BrowserBugs

2005-07-19 Thread Ingo Chao
I have made separate WIKI pages for some of the browsers, trying to provide at least one relevant external resource link. http://css-discuss.incutio.com/?page=BrowserBugs This is still an inadequate section of the WIKI. Thank you Ingo -- http://www.satzansatz.de/css.html

Re: [css-d] Firefox not showing background image in isolated code

2005-07-19 Thread Jim Davis
Try changing #wrap to this: #wrap { width: 750px; /*size to fit design*/ background-image: url(bodytexture.gif); display: table; } IE doesn't support display: table; so it is ignored. FF will render the background image as it should. Jim You said... Why is Firefox

Re: [css-d] The secret handshake?

2005-07-19 Thread david
Tanya Renne wrote: So I've posted three things to this list and not gotten any response at all. I've helped out several others on issues - but no nibbles on my problems ... do I have the secret handshake wrong or something? What particular problems were you asking about? They let me in here

Re: [css-d] Typography and CSS

2005-07-19 Thread Arlen Walker
On Jul 19, 2005, at 4:14 AM, designer wrote: Since so much of the web is about the presentation of text I feel sure there must be a book . . . Web Type Expert is the best book I know of dedicated to typography on the web. It's no better than mediocre on the subject, but the rest are

Re: [css-d] bizarre top margin exception behaviour in IE6

2005-07-19 Thread Julia Collins
Hi Jerome Thank you for this - I think it has solved my problem! The oddity was these are two floated elements, when the article seems to imply that the problem is with a floated and unfloated element in the same container but after much fiddling around, enclosing both elements in a

Re: [css-d] The secret handshake?

2005-07-19 Thread Michael Cassidy
On Jul 19, 2005, at 8:40 AM, Tanya Renne wrote: So I've posted three things to this list and not gotten any response at all. I've helped out several others on issues - but no nibbles on my problems ... do I have the secret handshake wrong or something? Its hard to help when in every browser

Re: [css-d] Typography and CSS

2005-07-19 Thread jeremy
http://www.markboulton.co.uk/journal/category/Typography/ You might check this out. I am not the best at using type, but I am good at illustration/drawing, and composition. This helped me to think about type a little differently... it got the ball rolling for me. The interesting part about

Re: [css-d] The secret handshake?

2005-07-19 Thread Ingo Chao
Tanya Renne schrieb: So I've posted three things to this list and not gotten any response at all. I've helped out several others on issues - but no nibbles on my problems ... do I have the secret handshake wrong or something? Don't know what handshake you are talking about. In [css-d] float

Re: [css-d] The secret handshake?

2005-07-19 Thread Ingo Chao
After researching http://www.ewriteonline.com/ , I think one option is to float both the green and the yellow box to the right, giving them an appropriate width. Both are already positioned relative and are perfect usable to establish containing blocks for absolutely positioning of the

[css-d] Another vertical menu question

2005-07-19 Thread Justin Reid
Hey all, I'm having a problem with stacking order in MS-IE6. There's a horizontal menu at the top that displays vertical sub menus on roll over. The menus use relative and absolute positioning and display just fine except for the fact that in IE they appear under another element that has relative

[css-d] Re: Bullet list-position problem with background-image

2005-07-19 Thread casmussen
Lacking a response from the list (I guess I don't ask questions well), I finally found a solution on my own and would like to share. My problem was SOMETIMES, default bullets appeared briefly and were then replaced by the custom bullets, but only in IE (see www.mobiledatasys.com). I replaced

Re: [css-d] Typography and CSS

2005-07-19 Thread David Laakso
designer wrote: Could someone please recommend a book which deals fully with typography and web design (ie, CSS, primarily :-). I've Googled and got a zillion hits, mainly web sites of course, many concentrating on which units to use. What I'm after really is a book which covers typography

Re: solutions ... smaller problems Re: [css-d] The secret handshake?

2005-07-19 Thread David Laakso
Tanya Renne wrote: I also took the suggestion below (thanks Ingo) and implemented it - happily now it looks the same is everything but IE on the mac - so two questions: 1) how do I get the green and yellow bar to come up horizontal with the keyboard image on the left 2) in IE for mac (5.2)

[css-d] Collapsible DIVs with nested floated elements

2005-07-19 Thread sonicDivx
Am I correct to assume that to have collapsible DIVS (display:block) that the nested DIVs with (style: float) that they also should have the property (display:block) set? __ css-discuss [EMAIL PROTECTED]

[css-d] Containers and floats

2005-07-19 Thread Skip Knox
I'm sure this is somewhere in the archives but I couldn't figure out how to construct the right search string. I have a site here: http://www.boisestate.edu/courses/latemiddleages/ The problem I have is that I very often have an image on the page (as in the above case) and if the image is too

RE: [css-d] Typography and CSS

2005-07-19 Thread Peter Williams
From: designer Things like the relationship of sizes for text/headings, which fonts are most 'readable/legible' etc etc. I know it is not exactly what you want, but Joe Gillespie has some good typography for the web info at his web site.

Re: [css-d] The secret handshake?

2005-07-19 Thread Keith Burgin
Felix Miata wrote: Normally when I try to look at a site and find subatomic text (12px is 36% of the real size of my 20px default, 52% of my 10pt browser menu text: http://members.ij.net/mrmazda/auth/area76.html ), I don't bother to reply, because the font sizing issue has been discussed here

[css-d] Extraneous lines on screen

2005-07-19 Thread Joseph Polanik
I have a table inside of a 'viewport' composed of elements in fixed positions on the screen. The table expands or contracts in length as the user toggles +/- symbols (javascript and the display: property do the work.) The problem occurs when the user expands the table enough to cause the

[css-d] Centered with indent. Works on FF, not IE could use some help.

2005-07-19 Thread Terry Jeske
Hello, Working through CSS positioning frustration. I've spent more time tweaking this than coding the back-end -agh!!! Not sure if it is worth it. Getting close, but have what I hope to be the last issue. I have header and a footer divs that span the entire width of the viewport. I have

Re: [css-d] Containers and floats

2005-07-19 Thread Steve Clason
On 7/19/2005 3:20 PM Skip Knox wrote: I have a site here: http://www.boisestate.edu/courses/latemiddleages/ snip I realize that, because I have floated the image right, it (or rather the div it's in) is not in the normal document flow. I don't want to set a minimum height on the container

Re: [css-d] Centered with indent. Works on FF, not IE could use some help.

2005-07-19 Thread Rahul Gonsalves
Hi Terry: I'm not sure if this will work for you, but removing the padding: 0 1em 0 1em; from the main block helped a bit. Try that out? I know IE implements the box-model wrong, so maybe somebody else can explain that more fully. Cheers, Rahul. Terry Jeske wrote: For some reason IE seems

RE: [css-d] Floating tables

2005-07-19 Thread Paul Novitski
Bill, What you want to do is easy. First, stop using tables to lay out your text. You're correct about how to use floats, but you can't use them with tables. I'd try something like this: div id=mainColumn div id=sampleChapters ul lia

Re: [css-d] Uberlinks...

2005-07-19 Thread Al Sparber
From: Theresa Mesa [EMAIL PROTECTED] Can someone please tell me how to do this? Please spell it out for me step by step, because I'm an idiot. I can't find anything on the web that tells me how to do exactly what I want to do. ProjectSeven had a bunch of stuff mixed up, like backgrounds, etc.

Re: [css-d] Centered with indent. Works on FF, not IE could use some help.

2005-07-19 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
Terry Jeske wrote: http://www.buzzjeske.com For some reason IE seems to be doubling the indented margin on the left. Anyone have any ideas? Yes, it is indeed the 'margin-doubling bug' in IE/win :-) Cure - tested in your page: #mainBlock { display: inline; } Look for more info over at:

Re: [css-d] CSS condenser tool

2005-07-19 Thread !!blue
I know! Everytime I visit the site, something inside me dies a little. :-S I googled and found another one here: CSS Formatter and Optimiser/Optimizer http://cdburnerxp.se/cssparse/css_optimiser.php I haven't tested it though. ciao, Zulema On 7/19/05, Tanya Renne [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Re: [css-d] Centered with indent. Works on FF, not IE could use some help.

2005-07-19 Thread Terry Jeske
Awesome. Thank you so much. I have not posted a lot of questions here, but when I have the positioneverything.com http://positioneverything.com site is usually cited. I wish they had a site search or something. Anyway. Off I go. Thx again. On 7/19/05, Gunlaug Sørtun [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Re: [css-d] Uberlinks...

2005-07-19 Thread Bruce Martin
Theresa Mesa wrote: http://www.mdh-test.com/perry/ All I want to do is swap out the white box gif with a blue box gif. Active page. Blue box. Non-active page. White box. Add a class to the Sections body body class=home body class=about body class=portfolio body class=testimonials body

Re: [css-d] Uberlinks...

2005-07-19 Thread jason zietz
But you'd have to have a different navigation file for each page to accomplish assigning the current page as the uberlink, which defeats the purpose of having an SSI for the navigation. From my experience, you'd have to write some code to detect which page your on, then assign the appropriate

Re: [css-d] Uberlinks...

2005-07-19 Thread Theresa Mesa
Wait, the links are in a server side include, not on the page itself. The page is linking to the virtual include, so essentially, the information is the same on each page. Normally, this is a wonderful way of doing navigation, banners, and footers. Make one change, and it affects every page. How

Re: [css-d] Uberlinks...

2005-07-19 Thread Theresa Mesa
A little confused. You have me doing body *class*..., but you're assigning IDs. Did you mean to write it that way? I'll check out the article tomorrow. Thanks! -- Theresa Mesa, http://mesadesignhouse.com CSS is a wonderful terrible thing... On 7/19/05 8:11 PM, Bruce Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [css-d] Re: IE6 shows extra space below menu item

2005-07-19 Thread David Laakso
metasilk wrote: [...] Anyway, site draft is still here if you're interested. http://www.greenmountainaccess.net/~ktalmage/vyc/ Strangely, the products page now jumps wider in FF but not IE. Not sure if this is what yiu mean, but I get page shift in Moz on your site that may be due to some

Re: [css-d] Uberlinks...

2005-07-19 Thread Al Sparber
From: Theresa Mesa [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Al Sparber [EMAIL PROTECTED]; CSS-discuss list css-d@lists.css-discuss.org Sent: Tuesday, July 19, 2005 11:30 PM Subject: Re: [css-d] Uberlinks... Wait, the links are in a server side include, not on the page itself. The page is linking to the virtual

Re: [css-d] Uberlinks...

2005-07-19 Thread Theresa Mesa
You guys rock. Thanks. I'll play with it in the morning. -- Theresa Mesa, http://mesadesignhouse.com CSS is a wonderful terrible thing... On 7/19/05 8:43 PM, Al Sparber [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Use a body ID method. Leave your main link styles for the menu the way they are as