Re: [css-d] Pixel Terror II - Pixel Strikes Back

2008-11-17 Thread MEM
David Laakso Wrote: In plain English, do not impose restrictions on the software when it is not in the users interest to do so. #footer { height:12px; :: delete :: } PS Yet another bottom post brought to you and yours by gmail. I hope this is not a bottom post. :s It was the designer

[css-d] Really need help - white spaces on zoom in using IE and FF

2008-11-17 Thread MEM
On IE 7 and FF 3 I’m getting this weird behavior for my page (they are different behaviors, if we ZOOM IN with IE or if we do with FF: http://www.cantinho.org/test6.html the correspondent CSS is the following: http://www.cantinho.org/css/teste_V6.css Notes about the layout: This

Re: [css-d] Pixel Terror II - Pixel Strikes Back

2008-11-17 Thread David Laakso
MEM wrote: It was the designer that have told me to put the height of the footer to 12px. But, what you telling me is that, it’s better to leave the browser to deal with it... Designers are a dime a dozen. Designers who understand the Web are few and far between. -- A thin

Re: [css-d] Really need help - white spaces on zoom in using IE and FF

2008-11-17 Thread Bill Brown
MEM wrote: http://www.cantinho.org/test6.html http://www.cantinho.org/css/teste_V6.css This layout is not an ordinary 3 columns layout with head and footer. He has to have the ability to change the border line differently on each column, and the columns height should always be the same and

[css-d] Content getting pushed out to the side

2008-11-17 Thread Daniel Hammond
URL: www.metroatlantaproject.org CSS: www.metroatlantaproject.org/css/main.css FF3, Opera, IE7, and IE6 display the site correctly. When I open the site in Safari and Google Chrome, the body content is pushed out to the right of the containing structure. What's going on? (all browsers tested are

[css-d] IE6 and IE7 Correct, everyone else wrong with negative margins

2008-11-17 Thread Mark Wheeler
Hi all, Ok, I have a problem where IE6 and IE7 are doing what I want, but the rest of the gang (FF, Safari and Chrome) are not doing what I want. Basically, I'm using negative top and bottom margins to move the top and bottom div in on the inner text. Sorry if I'm not explaining this

Re: [css-d] IE6 and IE7 Correct, everyone else wrong with negative margins

2008-11-17 Thread Bill Brown
Mark Wheeler wrote: http://dev.tonedeafdesign.com/test/test27.html Any help is greatly appreciated. Hi Mark, You are experiencing collapsing margins, a semi-intended, somewhat troublesome component of CSS design in compliant browsers. Adding a small amount of padding or bordering will

Re: [css-d] IE6 and IE7 Correct, everyone else wrong with negative margins

2008-11-17 Thread Mark Wheeler
Hi Mark, Your HTML has some problems (doesn't validate). Your best bet would probably be to fix those problems first and then try again. HTH Peter Hi Peter, I'm embarrassed. I usually validate all my html. It validates now, but my problem still exists. Again, any help is

Re: [css-d] IE6 and IE7 Correct, everyone else wrong with negative margins

2008-11-17 Thread Mark Wheeler
Hi Mark, You are experiencing collapsing margins, a semi-intended, somewhat troublesome component of CSS design in compliant browsers. Adding a small amount of padding or bordering will generally fix this. Try this rule in your style sheet: .balloon_middle { width: 217px;

[css-d] hover linking sidebar backgrounds

2008-11-17 Thread Kathy Davie
I am still a newbie at this. I've tested this page in Safari, Opera, and Firefox (no IEs for Macs so I'll have to figure a way to test on the IE---later) and I haven't set up most of the links. I have put it through the validation and the HTML validator tells me that various ul and li

Re: [css-d] Really need help - white spaces on zoom in using IE and FF

2008-11-17 Thread David Laakso
talofo talofo wrote: MEM wrote: http://www.cantinho.org/test6.html If I use the IE zoom fuction, I'm still having problems. :( The IE/7.0 zoom feature is a *page* zoom. This is a fundamental difference. Opera, Firefox, and Seamonkey zoom functions more as a *text*

Re: [css-d] Really need help - white spaces on zoom in using IE and FF

2008-11-17 Thread talofo talofo
2008/11/18 David Laakso [EMAIL PROTECTED] talofo talofo wrote: MEM wrote: http://www.cantinho.org/test6.html If I use the IE zoom fuction, I'm still having problems. :( The IE/7.0 zoom feature is a *page* zoom. This is a fundamental difference. Opera, Firefox, and Seamonkey

Re: [css-d] Really need help - white spaces on zoom in using IE and FF

2008-11-17 Thread David Laakso
talofo talofo wrote: 2008/11/18 David Laakso [EMAIL PROTECTED] talofo talofo wrote: MEM wrote: http://www.cantinho.org/test6.html If I use the IE zoom fuction, I'm still having problems. :( Thanks a lot. I will give it a

Re: [css-d] Really need help - white spaces on zoom in using IE and FF

2008-11-17 Thread talofo talofo
2008/11/18 David Laakso [EMAIL PROTECTED] talofo talofo wrote: 2008/11/18 David Laakso [EMAIL PROTECTED] talofo talofo wrote: MEM wrote: http://www.cantinho.org/test6.html If I use the IE zoom fuction, I'm still having problems. :( Thanks a lot. I will give it a

Re: [css-d] Content getting pushed out to the side

2008-11-17 Thread Philippe Wittenbergh
On Nov 18, 2008, at 5:14 AM, Daniel Hammond wrote: URL: www.metroatlantaproject.org CSS: www.metroatlantaproject.org/css/main.css FF3, Opera, IE7, and IE6 display the site correctly. When I open the site in Safari and Google Chrome, the body content is pushed out to the right of the

Re: [css-d] IE6 and IE7 Correct, everyone else wrong with negative margins

2008-11-17 Thread Bill Brown
Mark Wheeler wrote: Yep! That did the trick. I've run into this before, but it was a while back. What is it about adding the padding that does the trick? Mark Hi Mark. Glad it helped. Basically, I think when you have an element with no border or padding, the margin looks like this: m m m

Re: [css-d] Can you start a repeating background away from the edge of it's container?

2008-11-17 Thread Rahul Gonsalves
On 18-Nov-08, at 11:56 AM, Seona Bellamy wrote: What I want is, for example, an image that repeats along the y-axis to start 50px from the top of its container and repeat all the way down from that point on. #foo { background: #000 url(background.jpg) repeat-y fixed 0 50px;} Best, -

Re: [css-d] Can you start a repeating background away from the edge of it's container?

2008-11-17 Thread Philippe Wittenbergh
On Nov 18, 2008, at 4:19 PM, Rahul Gonsalves wrote: What I want is, for example, an image that repeats along the y-axis to start 50px from the top of its container and repeat all the way down from that point on. #foo { background: #000 url(background.jpg) repeat-y fixed 0 50px;} Er, no,

Re: [css-d] Really need help - white spaces on zoom in using IE and FF

2008-11-17 Thread talofo talofo
Thanks a lot. I will give it a try to learn more about how this works, knowing that I will never controle it. I'm use to it. I've read Plato :-) Thanks once again, Márcio 2008/11/18 David Laakso [EMAIL PROTECTED] talofo talofo wrote: http://www.cantinho.org/test6.html

Re: [css-d] Really need help - white spaces on zoom in using IE and FF

2008-11-17 Thread talofo talofo
2008/11/18 Bill Brown [EMAIL PROTECTED] talofo talofo wrote: You can find a version with all of the code for TheHolierGrail here: Link: http://theholiergrail.com/cssd/cantinho-maximal.html Size: 3 KB (30 KB uncompressed) ...and this version contains only the code you need for your

Re: [css-d] Can you start a repeating background away from the edge of it's container?

2008-11-17 Thread J.C. Berry
OK, I made a reply to the author here with exactly the same method as Rahul, but will stick my correction as a lame CSS 2.1 hack here. It requires extra markup, but works until better alternatives are available (3). div id=foodiv id=bar/div/div Apply repeat-y to #foo and position a corner/top (or