Re: [css-d] The CSS Overlords

2009-01-19 Thread Mustafa Quilon
The best way to learn the benefits of using CSS is by *doing* it. I started with tables too but never loved them @-...@. CSS was like _love at first sight_. Only the convincing(learning) part took some time, but it was worth it. - Mustafa Quilon

Re: [css-d] Pragmatic look at our CSS future - ripped from: The CSS Overlords

2009-01-19 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
Gabriele Romanato wrote: Browser's support is still improving. My opinion is: if we are using CSS for professional purposes, we should take into account also obsolete versions. otherwise, we should drop our support to these browsers. I have problems understanding practicality here. How

Re: [css-d] Scrollbar styles (etc.) validation

2009-01-19 Thread Bobby Jack
Also, for a variety of different things (like link colors, etc.) I get a bunch of these warnings (not errors)... You have no background-color set (or background-color is set to transparent) but you have set a color. Make sure that cascading of colors keeps the text reasonably legible.

Re: [css-d] Scrollbar styles (etc.) validatio

2009-01-19 Thread David Dorward
2009/1/19 Bobby Jack bobbykj...@yahoo.co.uk: Which validator are you using? It does sound like a flawed warning - the validator should be intelligent enough to determine that a background image/color will show through (and, thus, 'protect' the color), In every HTML or XML document the

Re: [css-d] Scrollbar styles (etc.) validation

2009-01-19 Thread Rick den Haan
Ron Koster wrote: You have no background-color set (or background-color is set to transparent) but you have set a color. Make sure that cascading of colors keeps the text reasonably legible. How on earth is that a warning? If I set a background color for my links or whatever else, well,

Re: [css-d] Scrollbar styles (etc.) validation

2009-01-19 Thread Ron Koster
At 01:16 PM 1/19/2009 +, Bobby Jack wrote: Which validator are you using? It does sound like a flawed warning - the validator should be intelligent enough to determine that a background image/color will show through (and, thus, 'protect' the color), at least in the trivial case. Actually,

[css-d] Adding margins to the hr element

2009-01-19 Thread Brett
I have created the following hr class specifying margins. The curious thing is that I get a 20px bottom margin as expected, but I do not get a 20px top margin, why not? Also, the hr center itself in all browsers except IE6 (afaik). How can I get IE6 to center it? hr.divider {

Re: [css-d] Adding margins to the hr element

2009-01-19 Thread Bobby Jack
--- On Mon, 1/19/09, Brett xba2...@zoominternet.net wrote: The curious thing is that I get a 20px bottom margin as expected, but I do not get a 20px top margin, why not? Works for me (FF3). You might be experiencing margin-collapsing, or some other side-effect of some other style, depending

[css-d] Global Rules?

2009-01-19 Thread johny why
hi does anyone know how to apply !important globally to all properties of an element? the standard usage is: a.myclass { color:blue !important; width:5em !important; } can i do something like this?: a.myclass !important { color:blue; width:5em; } thanks

Re: [css-d] Drop Caps

2009-01-19 Thread Ron Koster
At 08:43 PM 1/18/2009 -0500, Bill Brown wrote: I'm just leading horses to the Kool-Aid...I can't make 'em drink it. Okay, apparently I didn't explain my questions well enough, it would seem. Once again, on this page... http://css-discuss.incutio.com/?page=DropCaps ...is the following

Re: [css-d] Global Rules?

2009-01-19 Thread Vladislav Vladimirov
does anyone know how to apply !important globally to all properties of an element? the standard usage is: a.myclass { color:blue !important; width:5em !important; } You can just be more specific in defining the selector, like this: html body a.myclass { ... } Regards, Vladislav

Re: [css-d] Pragmatic look at our CSS future - ripped from: The CSS Overlords

2009-01-19 Thread Erika Meyer
Gunlaug Sørtun wrote: There's a lot of freedom in CSS based design if one has a deep enough understanding to release it, but the mental, and to some degree the practical, barriers seem to be high. I would like to get a better understanding of these barriers, in order to find more ways around

[css-d] IE issue with positioning

2009-01-19 Thread Jeff Chastain
I am having some issues with IE getting a layout design to work and I would like to see if anybody can offer any pointers before this drives me nuts. The issue I am running into is that I have a box which has a fluid width (90% of the page). Within that box, I am attempting to absolutely place

Re: [css-d] IE issue with positioning

2009-01-19 Thread Amedeo Mantica
try the following: #header { position: absolute; top: 0; margin-left: 14px; margin-right: 14px; } are sure that u need absolute positioning??

[css-d] Global Attributes?

2009-01-19 Thread johny why
who knows a way to do a 'global attribute'. for example: a { *: blue; } __ css-discuss [cs...@lists.css-discuss.org] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d List wiki/FAQ -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/ List

[css-d] The CSS Overlords

2009-01-19 Thread Carla Bruni
  Keeping in mind obviouce fact that not only web developers are a part of that list: Experience shows, those who don't like CSS are hoping that their  secretaries will be able to keep websites updated. Table are WYSIWYG. In CSS you see nothing, you need to go through the code, and it might

Re: [css-d] Drop Caps

2009-01-19 Thread Holly Bergevin
From: Ron Koster r...@psymon.com http://css-discuss.incutio.com/?page=DropCaps ...is the following recommended way to do up dropcaps... Ron, As with most things CSS, you'll need to test the effect you want in the environment it's going to be placed. Oh, and in a variety of browsers as well

[css-d] Subject: Drop Caps

2009-01-19 Thread Jen Strickland
Check out the book: Web Standards Creativity from Friends of Ed. Rob Weychert has a little discussion/how-to on drop caps that will provide the most thorough explanation. __ css-discuss [cs...@lists.css-discuss.org]

Re: [css-d] Global Rules?

2009-01-19 Thread Bill Brown
johny why wrote: can i do something like this?: a.myclass !important { color:blue; width:5em; } Nope thanks You're welcome. ;-) __ css-discuss [cs...@lists.css-discuss.org] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d

Re: [css-d] IE issue with positioning

2009-01-19 Thread Bill Brown
Jeff Chastain wrote: The issue I am running into is that I have a box which has a fluid width (90% of the page). Within that box, I am attempting to absolutely place another box at the very top, but with a 14px margin on both the left and right side. The following CSS rules work just fine in

Re: [css-d] IE issue with positioning

2009-01-19 Thread David Laakso
Jeff Chastain wrote: I am having some issues with IE getting a layout design to work and I would like to see if anybody can offer any pointers before this drives me nuts. The issue I am running into is that I have a box which has a fluid width (90% of the page). Within that box, I am attempting

Re: [css-d] The CSS Overlords

2009-01-19 Thread Christie Mason
I nominate this posting for the least useful posting award. Christie Mason -Original Message- From: css-d-boun...@lists.css-discuss.org [mailto:css-d-boun...@lists.css-discuss.org]on Behalf Of Carla Bruni Sent: Monday, January 19, 2009 12:13 PM To: css-d@lists.css-discuss.org Subject:

Re: [css-d] Global Attributes?

2009-01-19 Thread Keith DiSarno
I don't think that makes much sense. With the asterisk like that, you want the margin, text-decoration, padding, color, float, display...all blue? Blue is not a valid value for all but 1 of the preceeding. Thoroughly Confused... Keith D. On Mon, Jan 19, 2009 at 1:05 PM, johny why

Re: [css-d] Scrollbar styles (etc.) validation

2009-01-19 Thread bruce . somers
http://reference.sitepoint.com/css/conditionalcomments -- http://www.gunlaug.no condiional comments are claptrap of the top order. CSS is an interesting concept, but the implementation remains a bad joke! Bruce __

[css-d] ADMIN: Mail Server Moved

2009-01-19 Thread Dean Mah
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[css-d] button hover

2009-01-19 Thread Michał Zieliński
Hi I`ve got image button. It`s quite big and colorfull. I`d like to create a hover effect which changes only small detail on this big image (button). The small circle should change color from white to red. I don`t want to replace all the image because it would be to heavy to load. Using

Re: [css-d] button hover

2009-01-19 Thread Kevin Rodenhofer
Overlay a smaller image, and do the swap with it. Micha? Zielin'ski wrote: Hi I`ve got image button. It`s quite big and colorfull. I`d like to create a hover effect which changes only small detail on this big image (button). The small circle should change color from white to red. I don`t

Re: [css-d] button hover

2009-01-19 Thread Kevin Rodenhofer
Send us a link... Kevin Rodenhofer wrote: Overlay a smaller image, and do the swap with it. Micha? Zielin'ski wrote: Hi I`ve got image button. It`s quite big and colorfull. I`d like to create a hover effect which changes only small detail on this big image (button). The small circle should