Re: [css-d] shorthand elements

2009-09-28 Thread jeffrey morin
On Mon, Sep 28, 2009 at 9:09 AM, T. R. Valentine trvalent...@gmail.comwrote: When using shorthand elements such as 'margin' or 'padding', the order is (IIRC) 2 values (top bottom) (left right) 4 values (top) (right) (bottom) (left) What about three values? Also, does anyone have a

Re: [css-d] shorthand elements

2009-09-28 Thread Martin Möller
I like the TROUBLE mnemonic = TRBL cheers, martin On Mon, Sep 28, 2009 at 3:16 PM, jeffrey morin rufus2...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Sep 28, 2009 at 9:09 AM, T. R. Valentine trvalent...@gmail.comwrote: When using shorthand elements such as 'margin' or 'padding', the order is (IIRC)  2

Re: [css-d] shorthand elements

2009-09-28 Thread T. R. Valentine
2009/9/28 Martin Möller ceu...@gmail.com: I like the TROUBLE mnemonic =  TRBL I like it! :-D Thanks -- T. R. Valentine Your friends will argue with you. Your enemies don't care. 'When I get a little money I buy books; and if any is left I buy food and clothes.' -- Erasmus

Re: [css-d] shorthand elements

2009-09-28 Thread tedd
At 8:09 AM -0500 9/28/09, T. R. Valentine wrote: When using shorthand elements such as 'margin' or 'padding', the order is (IIRC) 2 values (top bottom) (left right) 4 values (top) (right) (bottom) (left) What about three values? Also, does anyone have a mnemonic to remember the order? --

Re: [css-d] shorthand elements

2009-09-28 Thread David McGlone
On Monday 28 September 2009 09:09:34 am T. R. Valentine wrote: When using shorthand elements such as 'margin' or 'padding', the order is (IIRC) 2 values (top bottom) (left right) 4 values (top) (right) (bottom) (left) What about three values? Also, does anyone have a mnemonic to

Re: [css-d] shorthand elements

2009-09-28 Thread MEM
Also, does anyone have a mnemonic to remember the order? I imagine a clock and I do my clockwise pointing finger technique. :) First value: Indicator pointing to the 12 Second Value: Indicator pointing to the 3 Third Value: Indicator pointing to the 6 Fourth Value: Indicator pointing to the

Re: [css-d] shorthand elements

2009-09-28 Thread Bobby Jack
--- On Mon, 9/28/09, tedd tedd.sperl...@gmail.com wrote: opinion I find reading other code (as well as mine later) much easier if longhand elements are used. After 40+ years of programming I can say the less cryptic the code, the better it is. This is because of self-documentation -- in

Re: [css-d] shorthand elements

2009-09-28 Thread Chris Blake
I agree. I have to write some styles on the fly i.e. div style=border: 1px soilid red/div and shorthand comes in very useful. However I only know a few so anyone with a useful to all of the ones available would be really appreciated. div style=background: url(img/pic.png) no-repeat top

[css-d] IE6/IE7 Section Overlay Issues

2009-09-28 Thread Jeremy Ferrante
I have a section of markup on page that under circumstances I want to give the impression that it is disabled or inactive by making any input controls contained within it unclickable and the entire area faded out. I figured I'd do this by placing a css element over the portion of a page with

Re: [css-d] shorthand elements

2009-09-28 Thread James Leslie
Also, does anyone have a mnemonic to remember the order? I remember it by the word TRouBLe (top-right-bottom-left) --- Tranversal Corporation Ltd will be exhibiting at CIPD Annual conference exhibition 2009 in Manchester between 17 - 19 November, stand 510.

[css-d] Issues with iframes in IE 7

2009-09-28 Thread Ellen Heitman
Anyone have an idea as to what's going on here? http://www.williamtobrien.com/airraids.html http://www.williamtobrien.com/letters_leaving.html If you view these pages in Safari and Firefox, you'll see what they should look like. However, the iframes are all wrong in IE. Here's my HTML code for

[css-d] Containing Element

2009-09-28 Thread MOHAMMED NASEER
I'm trying to understand floats and related matters. I have a question, is the 'containing element' in which an element is floated either to the left or right - can it be any element, in which the floated element happens to be nested or wrapped inside of. Or is it only a block level

[css-d] So close...IE6 horizontal drop-down menu help

2009-09-28 Thread css
I don't have IE6 but have seen in IETester and online renderers that my horizontal menu is vertical on IE6. PLEASE.how can I fix this? I have looked over so many tutorials on horizontal menus with submenus. It finally works on modern browsers, but I have the need for it to work on IE6 as

Re: [css-d] Issues with iframes in IE 7

2009-09-28 Thread David Hucklesby
Ellen Heitman wrote: Anyone have an idea as to what's going on here? http://www.williamtobrien.com/airraids.html http://www.williamtobrien.com/letters_leaving.html If you view these pages in Safari and Firefox, you'll see what they should look like. However, the iframes are all wrong in

Re: [css-d] Containing Element

2009-09-28 Thread MOHAMMED NASEER
As far as I can figure out the containing element is always a 'div' surrounding the floated element or the 'browser window' if there is no div in the hierarchy above it . Please do correct me if I have this wrong. thanks, Naz. On 28 Sep 2009, at 16:28, MOHAMMED NASEER wrote: I'm trying to

Re: [css-d] IE6/IE7 Section Overlay Issues

2009-09-28 Thread David Hucklesby
Jeremy Ferrante wrote: I have a section of markup on page that under circumstances I want to give the impression that it is disabled or inactive by making any input controls contained within it unclickable and the entire area faded out. I figured I'd do this by placing a css element over the

Re: [css-d] Issues with iframes in IE 7

2009-09-28 Thread Jukka K. Korpela
Ellen Heitman wrote: Anyone have an idea as to what's going on here? http://www.williamtobrien.com/airraids.html http://www.williamtobrien.com/letters_leaving.html If you view these pages in Safari and Firefox, you'll see what they should look like. However, the iframes are all wrong in IE.

Re: [css-d] So close...IE6 horizontal drop-down menu help

2009-09-28 Thread css
From: Judy Herilla [mailto:j...@karmoxie.com] Sent: Monday, September 28, 2009 2:10 PM To: 'css-d@lists.css-discuss.org' Subject: So close...IE6 horizontal drop-down menu help I don't have IE6 but have seen in IETester and online renderers that my horizontal menu is vertical on IE6.

Re: [css-d] Presentation Standards

2009-09-28 Thread JG
http://www.useit.com/alertbox/20040503.html http://www.useit.com/alertbox/20040503.htmlWhile this is the recommendation, many sites do violate these guidelines, so you can't judge this rule simply by observing what other sites do. The rules established by Nielsen are based on user testing, not

Re: [css-d] IE6/IE7 Section Overlay Issues

2009-09-28 Thread Jeremy Ferrante
Interesting technique unfortunately this doesn't seem to work in IE6/IE7/IE8. It tid work correctly in Firefox. Downfall to this approach is you cannot give the overlay a specific colour. Any other ideas? Cheers -Original Message- From: David Hucklesby [mailto:huckle...@gmail.com]

Re: [css-d] Hello! background-position RTL

2009-09-28 Thread Jukka K. Korpela
David Dorward wrote: 2009/9/27 Jukka K. Korpela jkorp...@cs.tut.fi: Theoretically, you could use selectors like [dir=rtl], but I don’t think that’s practical. (For one thing, such a selector matches an element that has the dir property explicitly set to rtl, as opposite to inherited

Re: [css-d] Containing Element

2009-09-28 Thread Climis, Tim
As far as I can figure out the containing element is always a 'div' surrounding the floated element or the 'browser window' if there is no div in the hierarchy above it . Please do correct me if I have this wrong. It's not always a div. It usually is, but it can be any element. Hence

Re: [css-d] IE6/IE7 Section Overlay Issues

2009-09-28 Thread David Hucklesby
Jeremy Ferrante wrote: Interesting technique unfortunately this doesn't seem to work in IE6/IE7/IE8. It tid work correctly in Firefox. Downfall to this approach is you cannot give the overlay a specific colour. Any other ideas? Cheers -Original Message- From: David Hucklesby

Re: [css-d] So close...IE6 horizontal drop-down menu help

2009-09-28 Thread David Laakso
c...@karmoxie.com wrote: I don't have IE6 but have seen in IETester and online renderers that my horizontal menu is vertical on IE6. Judy Need a clickable link to the page to give any sound advice. FWIW: 1/ try display: inline-block; 2/ try setting a width 3/ try

[css-d] My fixed object is missing altogether

2009-09-28 Thread Theresa Mesa
http://mdh-test.com/PV_web/index.shtml http://mdh-test.com/PV_web/pvg.css I am trying to do the same thing here... http://www.csszengarden.com/?cssfile=/213/213.csspage=0 ...with an image fixed in the bottom right corner. Why is my image not showing up? I've triple-checked the file name. I've

Re: [css-d] My fixed object is missing altogether

2009-09-28 Thread Bobby Jack
--- On Mon, 9/28/09, Theresa Mesa trixiesirishe...@gmail.com wrote: Why is my image not showing up? I've triple-checked the file name. http://mdh-test.com/PV_web/cornerart.png gives a 404 - you want to be using url('images/cornerart.png') in your CSS, not just 'cornerart.png'. - Bobby

Re: [css-d] My fixed object is missing altogether

2009-09-28 Thread Theresa Mesa
Oh, Lordy. How dumb am I? On Sep 28, 2009, at 3:28 PM, Bobby Jack wrote: --- On Mon, 9/28/09, Theresa Mesa trixiesirishe...@gmail.com wrote: Why is my image not showing up? I've triple-checked the file name. http://mdh-test.com/PV_web/cornerart.png gives a 404 - you want to be using

Re: [css-d] So close...IE6 horizontal drop-down menu help

2009-09-28 Thread David Laakso
Judy Herilla wrote: Thanks, David. I sent a follow-up email: http://rugby.karmoxie.com Judy Herilla I think Judy intended to send her clickable page link (see above) to the list... ~d __

[css-d] Wonky characters

2009-09-28 Thread Ellen Heitman
Here is what I have in the head of my document: !DOCTYPE html PUBLIC -//W3C//DTD XHTML 1.0 Transitional//EN http://www.w3.org/TR/xhtml1/DTD/xhtml1-transitional.dtd; html xmlns=http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml; head meta http-equiv=Content-Type content=text/html; charset=utf-8 title- Letters Home:

Re: [css-d] Wonky characters

2009-09-28 Thread David Laakso
Ellen Heitman wrote: Here is what I have in the head of my document: !DOCTYPE html PUBLIC -//W3C//DTD XHTML 1.0 Transitional//EN http://www.w3.org/TR/xhtml1/DTD/xhtml1-transitional.dtd; html xmlns=http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml; head meta http-equiv=Content-Type content=text/html;

Re: [css-d] Wonky characters

2009-09-28 Thread David Laakso
David Laakso wrote: I neglected to provide this link to Tidy: http://infohound.net/tidy/ __ css-discuss [cs...@lists.css-discuss.org] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d List wiki/FAQ --

Re: [css-d] Wonky characters

2009-09-28 Thread JG
try this !DOCTYPE html PUBLIC -//W3C//DTD XHTML 1.0 Strict//EN http://www.w3.org/TR/xhtml1/DTD/xhtml1-strict.dtd; html xmlns=http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml; On Mon, Sep 28, 2009 at 7:14 PM, Ellen Heitman ellen.heit...@gmail.comwrote: Here is what I have in the head of my document: !DOCTYPE

Re: [css-d] My fixed object is missing altogether

2009-09-28 Thread russ
Another thing to consider is the path from the css file to the images folder. If your css file is inside a css folder it may not know where to find the image. If that is the case, you would need to change the url to: url('../images/cornerart.png'). Russ - Original Message - From:

[css-d] I'd like to do something impossible

2009-09-28 Thread Theresa Mesa
http://mdh-test.com/PV_web/index.shtml http://mdh-test.com/PV_web/pvg.css I know, I'm thinking like a print person, but here you go: I want to take that circuit board image and pull it out about half its width into the right side, and have the text wrap around the edge that's left in the

Re: [css-d] My fixed object is missing altogether

2009-09-28 Thread Theresa Mesa
Yeah, that was the problem...I'm a moron, because I know better. :-/ Thanks, though! Theresa On Sep 28, 2009, at 8:56 PM, r...@catjuggling.com wrote: Another thing to consider is the path from the css file to the images folder. If your css file is inside a css folder it may not know

[css-d] Is page-break-before broken in Webkit?

2009-09-28 Thread David Hucklesby
Trying to put the entire printed recipe on its own printed page, most browsers honor my page-break-before: always; declaration. I can't get this to work nohow no way in Webkit (Safari and Chrome), even by adding !important... http://yewebwiz.info/temp/kam/ The rule is first in the @print

Re: [css-d] I'd like to do something impossible

2009-09-28 Thread russ
Can you mock it up in photoshop and post the image? It would be easier to envision what you are trying to achieve. Russ - Original Message - From: Theresa Mesa trixiesirishe...@gmail.com To: css-d Group css-d@lists.css-discuss.org Sent: Monday, September 28, 2009 7:59 PM Subject:

Re: [css-d] IE6/IE7 Section Overlay Issues

2009-09-28 Thread Thierry Koblentz
I have a section of markup on page that under circumstances I want to give the impression that it is disabled or inactive by making any input controls contained within it unclickable and the entire area faded out. I figured I'd do this by placing a css element over the portion of a page with