[css-d] Using YUI Compressor to minify CSS

2011-01-05 Thread Gabriele Romanato
This is just for tweaking up a little bit our performance when dealing with huge files: http://onwebdev.blogspot.com/2011/01/using-yui-compressor-to-minify-css.html HTH :-) http://www.css-zibaldone.com http://www.css-zibaldone.com/test/ (English) http://www.css-zibaldone.com/articles/

[css-d] Debugging IE

2011-01-05 Thread Colin (Sandy) Pittendrigh
I have been using http://ipinfo.info/netrenderer/index.php for hacking IE6 and IE7 into submission. In general I develop on linux with Chrome. Then check appearance on Firefox and Safari in Mac, which (usually but not always) look much the same. I have IE8 running on an old XP box. So I tehn use

Re: [css-d] Debugging IE

2011-01-05 Thread Mark Richards
On Wed, Jan 5, 2011 at 10:47, Colin (Sandy) Pittendrigh sandy.pittendr...@gmail.com wrote: also, I (think) I have noticed IE6 on old low-resolution laptops sometimes looks substantially different than IE6 running on an XP box plugged in to a high-resolution monitor. So perhaps a person

Re: [css-d] Debugging IE

2011-01-05 Thread David Laakso
On 1/5/11 10:47 AM, Colin (Sandy) Pittendrigh wrote: I have been using http://ipinfo.info/netrenderer/index.php for hacking IE6 and IE7 into submission. What is the professional debugging way proceed? I have no idea. But /I have the feeling/ that sense of humor is a primary

[css-d] HTML, CSS, JavaScript: Model-View-Controller

2011-01-05 Thread Gabriele Romanato
A way to rethink the traditional and static three-layered model: http://onwebdev.blogspot.com/2011/01/html-css-and-javascript-model-view.html HTH :-) http://www.css-zibaldone.com http://www.css-zibaldone.com/test/ (English) http://www.css-zibaldone.com/articles/ (English)

Re: [css-d] HTML, CSS, JavaScript: Model-View-Controller

2011-01-05 Thread Barney Carroll
Hiya Gabriele, Your article confused me massively, and I found it incredibly difficult to work out what you were trying to present. Based on your concluding line: Even though this model differs greatly from the original OOP one, it's worth mentioning that its further applications are incredibly

Re: [css-d] HTML, CSS, JavaScript: Model-View-Controller

2011-01-05 Thread Rich M
On 01/05/2011 01:01 PM, Barney Carroll wrote: Hiya Gabriele, Your article confused me massively, and I found it incredibly difficult to work out what you were trying to present. Based on your concluding line: Even though this model differs greatly from the original OOP one, it's worth

Re: [css-d] HTML, CSS, JavaScript: Model-View-Controller

2011-01-05 Thread tedd
At 6:01 PM + 1/5/11, Barney Carroll wrote: Hiya Gabriele, Your article confused me massively, and I found it incredibly difficult to work out what you were trying to present. Based on your concluding line: Even though this model differs greatly from the original OOP one, it's worth

Re: [css-d] HTML, CSS, JavaScript: Model-View-Controller

2011-01-05 Thread Gabriele Romanato
Well, thoughts about web development are not truths in the religious sense of the word. I was just expressing my views in quite a polite way, without being conceited or imposing me over other people's opinion. Just a thought, a resemblance, a comparison, a linking that popped into my head

Re: [css-d] HTML, CSS, JavaScript: Model-View-Controller

2011-01-05 Thread Barney Carroll
Maybe I was too confident in the fact that the readers of this list were already familiar with OOP. Sorry for the weird feeling. I feel like apologizing know, so excuse me. bye :-) Sorry Gabriele, didn't mean to bite your head off ;) I'm interested in everything you mentioned in that

Re: [css-d] Debugging IE

2011-01-05 Thread david
Mark Richards wrote: (Side note: some people will compare supporting old or odd browsers to supporting disabled users. Technically the work involved is often similar, however on one hand people with odd systems are able to upgrade/change but disabled users usually can't become un-disabled. So

Re: [css-d] HTML, CSS, JavaScript: Model-View-Controller

2011-01-05 Thread Gabriele Romanato
No Barney, what I did is completely wrong. It's off-topic and quite spamming. I'll stop it. From now on, no more posts from my blog. thanks for your answers and the answers of all css-d readers. Lesson learned. :-) http://www.css-zibaldone.com http://www.css-zibaldone.com/test/ (English)

Re: [css-d] HTML, CSS, JavaScript: Model-View-Controller

2011-01-05 Thread David Laakso
On 1/5/11 4:02 PM, Gabriele Romanato wrote: I'll stop it. From now on, no more posts from my blog. Well, no need to throw yourself through a closed window on the top floor of a tall building...:-) . Your on-topic posts to CSS-D are always informative and thought provoking. I do hope you

Re: [css-d] HTML, CSS, JavaScript: Model-View-Controller

2011-01-05 Thread Kevin A. Cameron
To be honest this 'discussion' on the merits of this post was a far greater waste of time than the post in question! :P Signal to noise ratio of this list tilts to the wrong side sometimes... Kevin On Wed, Jan 5, 2011 at 1:23 PM, David Laakso da...@chelseacreekstudio.comwrote: On 1/5/11 4:02

Re: [css-d] HTML, CSS, JavaScript: Model-View-Controller

2011-01-05 Thread Philip Taylor (Webmaster, Ret'd)
Kevin A. Cameron wrote: To be honest this 'discussion' on the merits of this post was a far greater waste of time than the post in question! :P With respect, I disagree. Whilst Gabriele's weblog citations were initially interesting, of late they have been coming so frequently that I was

Re: [css-d] HTML, CSS, JavaScript: Model-View-Controller

2011-01-05 Thread Chetan Crasta
On Thu, Jan 6, 2011 at 5:38 AM, Philip Taylor (Webmaster, Ret'd) p.tay...@rhul.ac.uk wrote: Whilst Gabriele's weblog citations were initially interesting, of late they have been coming so frequently I agree. Many of Gabriele's blog posts are about simple things like Styling a Form etc. These