Re: [css-d] Browsers to Test with

2011-01-13 Thread Yevgeny Nyden
I think it all depends on the available budget and the project goals. Who wouldn't want to have his/her site to be viewable in all browsers and with no glitches at all? ... but time and money constrains must dictate priorities. Once I worked on a small-to-medium size project where we only had resou

Re: [css-d] what font is being called?

2011-01-13 Thread Alan Gresley
On 14/01/2011 10:48 AM, Richard Mason wrote: On Thu, 13 Jan 2011, Alan Gresley wrote | This specification has been written with two types of readers in mind: | CSS authors and CSS implementors. We hope the specification will provide | authors wit

Re: [css-d] what font is being called?

2011-01-13 Thread Richard Mason
On Thu, 13 Jan 2011, Alan Gresley wrote | This specification has been written with two types of readers in mind: | CSS authors and CSS implementors. We hope the specification will provide | authors with the tools they need to write efficient,

Re: [css-d] form/ul layout weird in IE

2011-01-13 Thread Rich M
On 01/12/2011 02:04 PM, Chris F.A. Johnson wrote: Any browser with a larger minimum font size than yours. Have the last lines cut off is OK? Point taken, it wasn't clear to me that the cut-off wasn't just part of the screen shot until now. I'm trying to think of a way so that the four

[css-d] [test] CSS and iframes

2011-01-13 Thread Gabriele Romanato
There are many possible ways to apply this test in a real case- scenario like: 1. website previews 2. dynamic content 3. active content http://onwebdev.blogspot.com/2011/01/css-and-iframes.html this test clearly demonstrates the benefits of fluid css layouts. HTH :-) http://www.css-zibaldon

Re: [css-d] can CSS constitute an HTML error?

2011-01-13 Thread David Laakso
On 1/13/11 10:30 AM, Barney Carroll wrote: Regards, Barney Carroll I think I need another cup of coffee:-) . ~d -- http://chelseacreekstudio.com/ http://chelseacreekstudio.com/fa/ __ css-discuss [

Re: [css-d] can CSS constitute an HTML error?

2011-01-13 Thread Jukka K. Korpela
Colin (Sandy) Pittendrigh wrote: I interpret that to mean "inline elements may not contain block elements." That’s a correct conclusion regarding HTML markup. But it is a purely syntactic matter and as such completely external to CSS. You could apply CSS, for example, on a basic XML file wit

Re: [css-d] can CSS constitute an HTML error?

2011-01-13 Thread Barney Carroll
Hiya Sandy. CSS can't create an HTML error: if your HTML is well-formed and valid, then the resources it calls can have all sorts of inconsistencies and failings that may affect the eventual whole package of the rendered page, but the HTML itself will remain well-formed and valid. Using CSS to in

[css-d] can CSS constitute an HTML error?

2011-01-13 Thread Colin (Sandy) Pittendrigh
I found the following on the net: *Content model* Generally, block-level elements may contain inline elements and other block-level elements. *Generally, inline elements may contain only data and other inline elements.* Inherent in this structural distinction is the idea that block elements creat

Re: [css-d] what font is being called?

2011-01-13 Thread Philip Taylor (Webmaster, Ret'd)
Jukka K. Korpela wrote: > And even if you wrap them inside an inner element, Font Finder > reports ASCII as being in use for the inner element, even though the > element contains no character representable in the font. Argh : a potentially useful tool, perhaps, but by no means a perfect one.

Re: [css-d] what font is being called?

2011-01-13 Thread Jukka K. Korpela
Philip Taylor (Webmaster, Ret'd) wrote: Ulrike Eikermann wrote: Here is another Firefox Addon (Font Finder), which lets you click on elements and tells you the font being rendered. Also it allows you disable font families, which is useful when testing font stacks. https://addons.mozilla.org/e

Re: [css-d] Floats followed by paragraphs

2011-01-13 Thread Del Wegener
See a sample here: http://www.alliedcorrosion.com/products/manufacturer_introduction.php Then click on "BOX test" at the top of the menu on the left. Do you have a reason for not giving us the correct URL? #container1 p { clear:b

Re: [css-d] what font is being called?

2011-01-13 Thread Rory Bernstein
> On 12 January 2011 01:53, Duncan Hill wrote: >> On Tue, 11 Jan 2011 19:32:31 -, Rory Bernstein >> wrote: >> >>> Hello, >>> >>> When I have a series of fonts being called in a font-family rule, how do I >>> know which one is the one being chosen? >>> >> >> 'FireFontFamily' [1] addon for

Re: [css-d] what font is being called?

2011-01-13 Thread Philippe Wittenbergh
On Jan 13, 2011, at 8:16 PM, Richard Mason wrote: > I bet they're not either, but the CSS specifications are actually "Software > Requirement Specifications" aimed at programmers rather than 'your' author > the style sheet producer. ahem: http://www.w3.org/TR/CSS21/about.html#reading [quote]

Re: [css-d] what font is being called?

2011-01-13 Thread Alan Gresley
On 13/01/2011 10:16 PM, Richard Mason wrote: On Thu, 13 Jan 2011, Philippe Wittenbergh wrote The CSS specs don't assume that Author = Programmer Author is commonly understood as 'someone who writes a stylesheet' (I bet that most people following css-d as not programmers) I bet they're not e

Re: [css-d] what font is being called?

2011-01-13 Thread Philip Taylor (Webmaster, Ret'd)
Ulrike Eikermann wrote: Here is another Firefox Addon (Font Finder), which lets you click on elements and tells you the font being rendered. Also it allows you disable font families, which is useful when testing font stacks. https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/4415/ What happens

Re: [css-d] what font is being called?

2011-01-13 Thread Richard Mason
On Thu, 13 Jan 2011, Philippe Wittenbergh wrote On Jan 13, 2011, at 12:48 PM, Richard Mason wrote: Speaking of CSS specs I'm always surprised that the spec authors don't get called out for the nonsense they put in them. A specification should tell an author (a programmer) what is required. I

Re: [css-d] what font is being called?

2011-01-13 Thread Ulrike Eikermann
On 12 January 2011 01:53, Duncan Hill wrote: > On Tue, 11 Jan 2011 19:32:31 -, Rory Bernstein > wrote: > >> Hello, >> >> When I have a series of fonts being called in a font-family rule, how do I >> know which one is the one being chosen? >> > > 'FireFontFamily' [1] addon for the Firebug [2]

Re: [css-d] Browsers to Test with

2011-01-13 Thread david
Felix Miata wrote: On 2011/01/12 19:56 (GMT+0100) Gabriele Romanato composed: Don't get me wrong but ... What is the percentage of use of Seamonkey? ;-) Family trees: 1-IE 2-Gecko [1] SeaMonkey [Mozilla Suite renamed] Firefox [progeny of Mozilla aka Gecko] a bunch of others 3a-KHT

[css-d] CSS Design Patterns

2011-01-13 Thread Gabriele Romanato
This is a work in progress. If someone knows some other patterns in use, please let me know: http://onwebdev.blogspot.com/2011/01/css-design-patterns.html HTH :-) http://www.css-zibaldone.com http://www.css-zibaldone.com/test/ (English) http://www.css-zibaldone.com/articles/ (English) http