Re: [css-d] child problems with li?

2013-12-20 Thread MiB
dec 21 2013 03:18 John : > am I right thinking this is an inheritance issue? the descendent "nav li” selector will of course affect all such elements unless you override them. The "footer li” selector at the linked page overrides the display and font-size of ”nav li". Relative font size is bas

Re: [css-d] child problems with li?

2013-12-20 Thread John
On Dec 20, 2013, at 6:00 PM, John wrote: > at this page: thinkplan.org the footer li nav appears to be being > influenced by the header nav li CSS and I can not see why…any clues? think I solved it; put the top nav inside the header, renamed those header nav, header li and that broke the in

[css-d] child problems with li?

2013-12-20 Thread John
at this page: thinkplan.org the footer li nav appears to be being influenced by the header nav li CSS and I can not see why…any clues? thank you! John __ css-discuss [css-d@lists.css-discuss.org] http://www.css-discuss.org/mai

Re: [css-d] Visual styling vs. source order

2013-12-20 Thread MiB
dec 20 2013 20:15 Greg Gamble : > Pages should have headers in order, with one H1 on top. I disagree. In html5, it's perfectly correct to sectionalize different parts of the content and have a new header structure within each section with a top H1 per section element and following headers. Th

Re: [css-d] Visual styling vs. source order

2013-12-20 Thread Tom Livingston
I guess the upshot of all this is two fold... 1) We're off-topic for this list, so we should take this off-list or let it go 2) Order matters. Thanks all. On Fri, Dec 20, 2013 at 2:44 PM, Charles Miller wrote: > Bet I can make some dearly-departed conscientious types roll over in their > gra

Re: [css-d] Visual styling vs. source order

2013-12-20 Thread Charles Miller
Bet I can make some dearly-departed conscientious types roll over in their graves by mentioning: 1. Begin with an H1 which states the subject matter as directly and plainly as possible -- and which is white on white or placed off the page with negative X margin. Whatever works, if

Re: [css-d] Visual styling vs. source order

2013-12-20 Thread Tom Livingston
Thanks Greg On Fri, Dec 20, 2013 at 2:15 PM, Greg Gamble wrote: > Pages should have headers in order, with one H1 on top. Under the H1 you can > have multiple H2 - H6's, but they should be nested correctly. > > Good: > H1 > H2 > H2 > H3 > H4 > > H3 > H4 > > H2 > H3 > H4 > > Bad: > H2 > > H1 > H4

Re: [css-d] Visual styling vs. source order

2013-12-20 Thread Greg Gamble
Pages should have headers in order, with one H1 on top. Under the H1 you can have multiple H2 - H6's, but they should be nested correctly. Good: H1 H2 H2 H3 H4 H3 H4 H2 H3 H4 Bad: H2 H1 H4 H1 H4 H3 H2 There is an accessibility aspect to this too. If the text is visually not what you want,

Re: [css-d] Using :focus +

2013-12-20 Thread Greg Gamble
Nice ... helps to know what it's called when searching :-) Thanks ... Greg -Original Message- From: css-d-boun...@lists.css-discuss.org [mailto:css-d-boun...@lists.css-discuss.org] On Behalf Of Micky Hulse Sent: Thursday, December 19, 2013 4:00 PM To: css-d@lists.css-discuss.org S

Re: [css-d] Visual styling vs. source order

2013-12-20 Thread MiB
dec 202013 01:16 Rick Gordon : > I think a good criterion is this: If you were looking at the content, in an > undesigned, purely logical order, what order would the code fall in? Since this is headings these should make sense in an HTML5 outliner like this one http://gsnedders.html5.org/outl