Hope they've seen the MS press release about EOLing IE 8 in about 18 months ;-)
Eric
http://www.zdnet.com/microsoft-to-drop-support-for-older-versions-of-internet-explorer-732437/?s_cid=e589ttag=e589ftag=TREc64629f
On August 7, 2014 at 7:00 PM Tom Livingston tom...@gmail.com wrote:
Our
On Aug 10, 2014, at 7:34 PM, Eric e...@minerbits.com wrote:
Hope they've seen the MS press release about EOLing IE 8 in about 18 months
;-)
Eric
http://www.zdnet.com/microsoft-to-drop-support-for-older-versions-of-internet-explorer-732437/?s_cid=e589ttag=e589ftag=TREc64629f
As
I realize that this thread has gone off in other direction but I have a question
-
Given that SVG is support universally except for very ancient UAs (IE8 is south
of 5% now) why bother with a fallback image? Why not just give them a
background-color?
Seems like a whole lot of wasted work for a
Our clients still use IE8. I think all most all of them. That's the
only reason that matters to my superiors, or my clients.
On Thu, Aug 7, 2014 at 6:33 PM, Eric e...@minerbits.com wrote:
I realize that this thread has gone off in other direction but I have a
question -
Given that SVG is
List,
I was having a discussion in the comments of an article about using
svg as a background-image in CSS, and using a png as fallback. I was
writing it like this:
background-image: image.png;
background-image: image.svg;
But this fails in IE8 (and presumably in other non-svg-supporting
Have you seen this, Tom: http://css-tricks.com/svg-fallbacks/ ?
Scroll down about 1/2 way for the `background-image` fallback; Basically
you have to fake multiple backgrounds, but it doesn't work in Android 2.3,
if that's a concern.
So:
background-image: url('image.png');
background-image:
I've seen that and others. I'm looking for why. Why don't they work the
same.
On Tuesday, August 5, 2014, Chris Rockwell ch...@chrisrockwell.com wrote:
Have you seen this, Tom: http://css-tricks.com/svg-fallbacks/ ?
Scroll down about 1/2 way for the `background-image` fallback; Basically
you
Le 5 août 2014 à 22:00, Tom Livingston tom...@gmail.com a écrit :
was having a discussion in the comments of an article about using
svg as a background-image in CSS, and using a png as fallback. I was
writing it like this:
background-image: image.png;
background-image: image.svg;
But
They do work the same. You're not giving it a declaration it doesn't
understand ( like rgba(), therefore causing a fallback ), it perfectly
understands url(), it just can't render the resource you're giving it.
Chris Rockwell
On Tue, Aug 5, 2014 at 9:17 AM, Tom Livingston tom...@gmail.com
Ok, I see the difference. Thanks all.
On Tuesday, August 5, 2014, Chris Rockwell ch...@chrisrockwell.com wrote:
They do work the same. You're not giving it a declaration it doesn't
understand ( like rgba(), therefore causing a fallback ), it perfectly
understands url(), it just can't render
Turn your svg image into a base64 and load the image data as content: .
Wouldn't that work?
Karl
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On Aug 5, 2014, at 8:18 AM, Philippe Wittenbergh e...@l-c-n.com wrote:
Le 5 août 2014 à 22:00, Tom Livingston tom...@gmail.com a écrit :
was having a discussion in the
Le 6 août 2014 à 06:40, Karl DeSaulniers k...@designdrumm.com a écrit :
urn your svg image into a base64 and load the image data as content: .
Wouldn't that work?
No, that wouldn't work any differently. A browser that doesn't support SVG will
see an invalid / unrecognised image format as
On Aug 5, 2014, at 6:15 PM, Philippe Wittenbergh e...@l-c-n.com wrote:
Le 6 août 2014 à 06:40, Karl DeSaulniers k...@designdrumm.com a écrit :
urn your svg image into a base64 and load the image data as content: .
Wouldn't that work?
No, that wouldn't work any differently. A browser
On Tuesday, August 5, 2014, Karl DeSaulniers k...@designdrumm.com wrote:
On Aug 5, 2014, at 6:15 PM, Philippe Wittenbergh e...@l-c-n.com
javascript:; wrote:
Le 6 août 2014 à 06:40, Karl DeSaulniers k...@designdrumm.com
javascript:; a écrit :
urn your svg image into a base64 and load
Hey Tom, just a heads up that you need to include the 2nd argument in
background-image:, otherwise it won't fallback.
Chris
On Aug 5, 2014 8:45 PM, Tom Livingston tom...@gmail.com wrote:
On Tuesday, August 5, 2014, Karl DeSaulniers k...@designdrumm.com wrote:
On Aug 5, 2014, at 6:15 PM,
Le 6 août 2014 à 09:45, Tom Livingston tom...@gmail.com a écrit :
Actually, now that I see the difference between this and rgba with rgb
fallback, I see the best non-script solution is:
Background: url(image.png);
background-image: url(image.svg);
See here:
On Tuesday, August 5, 2014, Chris Rockwell ch...@chrisrockwell.com wrote:
Hey Tom, just a heads up that you need to include the 2nd argument in
background-image:, otherwise it won't fallback.
Ah yes. Correct.
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Tom Livingston | Senior Front-End Developer | Media Logic |
ph:
So with this, my browser, if it supports svg has to download your png and then
your svg?
Best,
Karl DeSaulniers
Design Drumm
http://designdrumm.com
On Aug 5, 2014, at 7:45 PM, Tom Livingston tom...@gmail.com wrote:
Background: url(image.png);
background-image: url(image.svg), none;
These were simple examples. In practice, I'd add MQ to stop that from
happening in most browsers.
On Tuesday, August 5, 2014, Karl DeSaulniers k...@designdrumm.com wrote:
So with this, my browser, if it supports svg has to download your png and
then your svg?
Best,
Karl DeSaulniers
Design
I see. But so I can wrap my head around this, without the media queries, that
is what this css declaration does?
Karl DeSaulniers
Design Drumm
http://designdrumm.com
On Aug 5, 2014, at 8:08 PM, Tom Livingston tom...@gmail.com wrote:
These were simple examples. In practice, I'd add MQ to
Most likely, yes.
On Tuesday, August 5, 2014, Karl DeSaulniers k...@designdrumm.com wrote:
I see. But so I can wrap my head around this, without the media queries,
that is what this css declaration does?
Karl DeSaulniers
Design Drumm
http://designdrumm.com
On Aug 5, 2014, at 8:08 PM,
That is an interesting find, thank you for sharing.
I am still a little partial to the js solution as it checks things before
anything is loaded, but if your a css purist, this is gold. ;)
Best,
Karl DeSaulniers
Design Drumm
http://designdrumm.com
On Aug 5, 2014, at 8:11 PM, Tom Livingston
If you're already using modernizr, it's even easier.
On Tuesday, August 5, 2014, Karl DeSaulniers k...@designdrumm.com wrote:
That is an interesting find, thank you for sharing.
I am still a little partial to the js solution as it checks things before
anything is loaded, but if your a css
On Aug 5, 2014, at 8:19 PM, Tom Livingston tom...@gmail.com wrote:
If you're already using modernizr, it's even easier.
Na, I don't normally use those libraries unless I can't roll my own or it's
just more feasible to do so.
Too much excess code for stuff I am not utilizing in a project.
Of course, YMMV, but like I said, if you're already using modernizr - which
also includes the html5shiv - it's trivial to handle this svg situation.
On Tuesday, August 5, 2014, Karl DeSaulniers k...@designdrumm.com wrote:
On Aug 5, 2014, at 8:19 PM, Tom Livingston tom...@gmail.com
javascript:;
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