Re: [css-d] Internal Anchor Tag Breaks Layout in FF

2006-07-17 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
Amaryllia Liu wrote: http://www.erotophilia.com/July2006/brokenlayout.html When any of the anchor links on top are clicked, the page layout breaks in FF, but seems to work find in IE. This is a fairly simple page so I'm hoping the problem is also a simple fix. No really simple fixes, I'm

Re: [css-d] CSS validation question

2006-07-17 Thread Ingo Chao
francky wrote: The css-validator loves to see pairs of colors and background colors. ... The ratio of this is in short: be aware that the contrast between the letter colors and the background is enough for accessibility at each level. Jukka Yucca Korpela wrote an excellent expertise

Re: [css-d] container div doesn't grow to hold images

2006-07-17 Thread Ingo Chao
Ivar van Duuren wrote: Hi there, I have a problem with a page of a personal page. The url is this: http://www.gritter.org/trouwen/pics.html As you'll see, the pictures are not contained by their parent div. To me it looks like they float but in the css they're not defined as floating...

Re: [css-d] CSS validation question

2006-07-17 Thread francky
Ingo Chao wrote: francky wrote: The css-validator loves to see pairs of colors and background colors. ... The ratio of this is in short: be aware that the contrast between the letter colors and the background is enough for accessibility at each level. Jukka Yucca Korpela wrote an

Re: [css-d] CSS Formatting

2006-07-17 Thread Ingo Chao
Yehuda Katz wrote: Essentially, I created a set of CSS Formatting guidelines designed to get designers to create readable CSS that other designers could quickly get up to speed on. The spec is available in PDF form at http://www.yehudakatz.com/CSSf-1-5-1-Spec.pdf. The purpose of the CSSf

[css-d] IE7 and min- max- width/height

2006-07-17 Thread old9
http://css-discuss.incutio.com/?page=IE7 here is the list of css bugs and improvements of IE7 betas, but in the min-height, max-height, min-width, max-width section, it's said that IE7 does not support those properties. I made my test, IE7 does not support those properties in quirks mode but DOES

[css-d] Noob diving in at the deep end.....

2006-07-17 Thread David O'Neill
Hey one and all, I was directed to this list by a friend of mine in relation to css. As the topic says I am a complete noob and am only aware really of css through using Dreamweaver 8, I am currently taking on to redesign a friends website ( www.amici-noctis.net ) and was wondering if you good

Re: [css-d] container div doesn't grow to hold images

2006-07-17 Thread francky
Ingo Chao wrote: [...] And Opera8 and 9 align these images horizontally. Is this correct? Maybe the align=left should be deleted. Anyway, the reason for joining this thread is: Congratulations, Ivar! Best wishes! Ingo Hi Ivar, Deleting the align=left in the html helps. But it is not the

[css-d] Rounded corners problem on Mac OSX FF

2006-07-17 Thread Dan Searle
Hi list, I don't have access to a Mac to debug this myself, I was wondering if someone on the list might be able to explain what was happening here? http://www.danwashere.com/dev/aauk/celeb_blackboard/index.html I'm told that on the rounded corner in the bottom right of the large white text

Re: [css-d] Noob diving in at the deep end.....

2006-07-17 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
David O'Neill wrote: I was directed to this list by a friend of mine in relation to css. You have come to the right place for css-issues :-) www.amici-noctis.net [...] I would like to center the sections both vertically and horizontally, though primarily on the horizontal plane. You

Re: [css-d] Noob diving in at the deep end.....

2006-07-17 Thread Christian Heilmann
I was directed to this list by a friend of mine in relation to css. You have come to the right place for css-issues :-) ,,, but you could have bothered to read the list policies[1] and used a subject that describes the issue and represents a valid question or statement and not your swimming

Re: [css-d] Three column div

2006-07-17 Thread Zoe M. Gillenwater
Aaron Gray wrote: Aaron Gray wrote: Is it possible to have a three column layout with fixed width left and right columns , and variable width center column, WITH a minimum width, using div's ? Or can the minimum width center column only be done with tables. If it is possible could

Re: [css-d] Rounded corners problem on Mac OSX FF

2006-07-17 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
Dan Searle wrote: http://www.danwashere.com/dev/aauk/celeb_blackboard/index.html I'm told that on the rounded corner in the bottom right of the large white text box is being interfered with by what appears to be a white border stretching down. I'm not seeing that problem on Win XP, FF1.5,

Re: [css-d] Rounded corners problem on Mac OSX FF

2006-07-17 Thread tedd
Hi list, I don't have access to a Mac to debug this myself, I was wondering if someone on the list might be able to explain what was happening here? http://www.danwashere.com/dev/aauk/celeb_blackboard/index.html I'm told that on the rounded corner in the bottom right of the large white text box

Re: [css-d] Rounded corners problem on Mac OSX FF

2006-07-17 Thread francky
Dan Searle wrote: Hi list, I don't have access to a Mac to debug this myself, I was wondering if someone on the list might be able to explain what was happening here? http://www.danwashere.com/dev/aauk/celeb_blackboard/index.html I'm told that on the rounded corner in the bottom right of the

Re: [css-d] CSS validation question

2006-07-17 Thread Jan Brasna
why this is not only an accessibility question. It's more a reminder than anything else. The validator (a syntax checker would be better?) has no idea about you cascade and CSS inheritance in the particular document so it advises you to add more maybe even duplicate values to just satisfy its

[css-d] (no subject)

2006-07-17 Thread Vic Rauch
I don't know what I changed, but the fly-out menu stopped working. Here is the site. Any assistance would be greatly appreciated. Thanks, Vic __ css-discuss [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [css-d] Rounded corners problem on Mac OSX FF

2006-07-17 Thread francky
francky wrote: [...] ... or the easy way! http://home.tiscali.nl/developerscorner/css-discuss/test-redcorners.htm :-) francky __ css-discuss [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d IE7b2 testing

Re: [css-d] CSS Formatting

2006-07-17 Thread Tom Livingston
Sure it is. Adding clearing elements, and the ensuing additional CSS (or extra clearing markup), makes code less readable for, in most cases, no good reason. Since overflow: hidden or overflow: auto does the trick, the whole issue of clearing floats becomes essentially a non-issue, and saves

Re: [css-d] Rounded corners problem on Mac OSX FF

2006-07-17 Thread Dan Searle
From: francky [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi Dan, I can see the problem in IE6 on Win(98SE) too: screenshot-1 http://home.tiscali.nl/developerscorner/css-discuss/images/blackboard-1.png. and in FF1.07 on pc: screenshot-2 http://home.tiscali.nl/developerscorner/css-discuss/images/blackboard-2.png It is

Re: [css-d] display-inline not working in Firefox

2006-07-17 Thread David Laakso
Marlene T. Yogerst wrote: I am trying to get the top navigation to display inline (horizontal). I can get it to work in Netscape and IE; however, Firefox will only display it vertically. Does anyone know a work around to get the display horizontal in Firefox? Here is the site:

Re: [css-d] CSS Formatting

2006-07-17 Thread Robert O'Rourke
Tom Livingston wrote: Sure it is. Adding clearing elements, and the ensuing additional CSS (or extra clearing markup), makes code less readable for, in most cases, no good reason. Since overflow: hidden or overflow: auto does the trick, the whole issue of clearing floats becomes essentially a

Re: [css-d] CSS Formatting

2006-07-17 Thread Alex Foley
I'd sure like a confirmation from someone that overflow: auto is the way to go... I've been clearfix-ing up until about 12:03 pm today. Alex Foley Robert O'Rourke wrote: Tom Livingston wrote: Hold on. Adding overflow:auto; on a container will clear any and all floats inside said

Re: [css-d] CSS Formatting

2006-07-17 Thread Robert O'Rourke
Alex Foley wrote: I'd sure like a confirmation from someone that overflow: auto is the way to go... I've been clearfix-ing up until about 12:03 pm today. Here we go: http://dev.l-c-n.com/IEW/containing-float-overflow.php It's not as consistent as clear-fixing but in general using

[css-d] easy question about centering my design on the page in css

2006-07-17 Thread juliann wheeler
You can view my design at: http://www.agentevaluator.com/juliann/brown/indexbrown.html How do I get this to center on the page? thanks! __ css-discuss [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d IE7b2

Re: [css-d] easy question about centering my design on the page in css

2006-07-17 Thread Alex Foley
You could add a containing element around all of the divs, say div id=container And then set the left and right margins to auto: div#container { margin: 0 auto; } Alex Foley juliann wheeler wrote: You can view my design at: http://www.agentevaluator.com/juliann/brown/indexbrown.html

[css-d] Pixy rollover inconsistency in IE/Win

2006-07-17 Thread Jacob Reiff
css-d: The site I'm having an issue with: http://tinyurl.com/op5fx I used the Pixy Fast Rollovers [1] method as a starting point, with the IE/Win update. The problem is that when you are on the Home/Services (they're the same thing) page, the Services / About rollovers work fine in IE6/

Re: [css-d] easy question about centering my design on the page in css

2006-07-17 Thread Dave Goodchild
On 17/07/06, Alex Foley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You could add a containing element around all of the divs, say div id=container And then set the left and right margins to auto: div#container { margin: 0 auto; } Alex Foley juliann wheeler wrote: You can view my design at:

Re: [css-d] easy question about centering my design on the page in css

2006-07-17 Thread Robert O'Rourke
juliann wheeler wrote: You can view my design at: http://www.agentevaluator.com/juliann/brown/indexbrown.html How do I get this to center on the page? thanks! It's a bit tricky when everything is absolutely positioned like that. You could produce the same layout with floats and normal

Re: [css-d] easy question about centering my design on the page in css

2006-07-17 Thread David Laakso
juliann wheeler wrote: You can view my design at: http://www.agentevaluator.com/juliann/brown/indexbrown.html How do I get this to center on the page? thanks! Juliann, See the wiki http://css-discuss.incutio.com/?page=CenteringBlockElement , /particularly/ the example under Centering

[css-d] ie7b3 text-indent

2006-07-17 Thread David Laakso
In this page http://www.chelseacreekstudio.com/ , xp ie6 renders the right column p text-indent correctly. However, ie7b3 standalone(on my end), and ie7b2 (browsercam) approximately double the p text-indent. Is this doubling of a specified text-indent a known ie7 issue? Captures: xp ie6.0

Re: [css-d] CSS Formatting

2006-07-17 Thread cj
On 7/17/06, Yehuda Katz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sure it is. Adding clearing elements, and the ensuing additional CSS (or extra clearing markup), makes code less readable for, in most cases, no good reason. Since overflow: hidden or overflow: auto does the trick, the whole issue of clearing

[css-d] adding ALT text to a CSS - background-image

2006-07-17 Thread Maciejewski, James
We are adding ALT text to all of our images. We have a few images that are linked from our CSS for notes, tips, warnings, etc. The code looks like this: background-image: url(folder/image.gif); Is it possible to add ALT text to this? Thanks! Jim

Re: [css-d] adding ALT text to a CSS - background-image

2006-07-17 Thread Brian Cummiskey
On 7/17/06, Maciejewski, James [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is it possible to add ALT text to this? No (at least not directly) If the image is presentational, it should be in the background with no alt if the image is content, it should be in img tags, and properly alt'ed.

Re: [css-d] adding ALT text to a CSS - background-image

2006-07-17 Thread Christian Heilmann
On 7/17/06, Maciejewski, James [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is it possible to add ALT text to this? No (at least not directly) If the image is presentational, it should be in the background with no alt if the image is content, it should be in img tags, and properly alt'ed. 100% ack on that.

Re: [css-d] Three column div

2006-07-17 Thread Aaron Gray
be afraid to try it out. If you're new to CSS, I recommend you not jump into a negative margin layout just yet, but you could easily do a float layout: - Float one div left - Float one div right - Give middle div matching left and right margins - Wrap all divs in a container with a minimum

Re: [css-d] adding ALT text to a CSS - background-image

2006-07-17 Thread cj
On 7/17/06, Maciejewski, James [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It's a new standard to comply with handicap accessibility - we have to include ALT text for all images (this is for an online WebHelp system). But, you mentioned important enough that made me think...it makes since to exclude these as an

Re: [css-d] Fly-out has stopped working

2006-07-17 Thread Ian Kaplan
Vic, In your file: http://www.ggshows.com/WIP-Testing/css/css-flyout.css on line 200 try getting rid of the extra declarations for your background-image property and add them separately. Instead of: background-image: url(images/arrow-right.gif) no-repeat 100% 50%; try: background-image:

Re: [css-d] Fly-out has stopped working

2006-07-17 Thread Ian Kaplan
Vic, Actually The problem is that on line 200 in your file: http://www.ggshows.com/WIP-Testing/css-flyout.css you're declaring the property background-image and adding extra parameters rather than using background Use: background: url(images/arrow-right.gif) no-repeat 100% 50%; rather than:

Re: [css-d] CSS Formatting

2006-07-17 Thread Tom Livingston
snip i personally would rather not have scrollbars appear or things disappear on elements with width or height. I prefer using option #2 in the wiki (http://css-discuss.incutio.com/?page=ClearingSpace), which doesn't add additional markup, either snip I'm with CJ on this one, though I don't

Re: [css-d] adding ALT text to a CSS - background-image

2006-07-17 Thread MarcLuzietti
On 7/17/06, Maciejewski, James [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It's a new standard to comply with handicap accessibility - we have to include ALT text for all images (this is for an online WebHelp system). Ah yes, policy created by people who get the letter of accessibility without understanding the

[css-d] div breaking out of parent

2006-07-17 Thread Matthew Bernhardt
Hello everyone, I'm working on a simple two-column layout (one navigation, one content) with a masthead and footer - something I'm sure everyone's done before, but for some reason I'm having trouble with the content column breaking out of its parent div. I'd thought I was starting to

Re: [css-d] adding ALT text to a CSS - background-image

2006-07-17 Thread cj
[posting this reply back to the list. remember when you reply, select reply to all to send your response back to all the people who have given advice.] On 7/17/06, Maciejewski, James [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --i wouldn't think blind people, for example, really care if you have a pink

Re: [css-d] Three column div

2006-07-17 Thread Zoe M. Gillenwater
Aaron Gray wrote: - Float one div left - Float one div right - Give middle div matching left and right margins - Wrap all divs in a container with a minimum and maximum width applied That's all it takes. Some tweaking necessary for IE, probably, and when you start adding in graphics, but

Re: [css-d] CSS Formatting

2006-07-17 Thread L. Robinson
Gunlaug Sørtun wrote: Yehuda Katz wrote: Since overflow: hidden or overflow: auto does the trick, the whole issue of clearing floats becomes essentially a non-issue, and saves extra markup. I use such design-methods quite often, and the overflow-property doesn't cut it across

[css-d] Anchors and hidden overflow

2006-07-17 Thread Marcelo Wolfgang
Hi list, Is it possible to move 2 div's that has some content hidden by using the overflow selector using html anchors ? Like when click an link, the 2 div's respond to that click, moving itself ? Please advice __ css-discuss

Re: [css-d] CSS Formatting

2006-07-17 Thread MarcLuzietti
K. What is it I don't understand? :) lr You understand it correctly, actually. -- Marc Luzietti Flagship Project Bayview Financial, L.P. (305) 341-5624 __ css-discuss [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [css-d] CSS Formatting

2006-07-17 Thread Steve Axthelm
On 2006-07-16, Yehuda Katz wrote: Essentially, I created a set of CSS Formatting guidelines designed to get designers to create readable CSS that other designers could quickly get up to speed on. The spec is available in PDF form at http://www.yehudakatz.com/CSSf-1-5-1-Spec.pdf.

[css-d] ie7b3 :: text-indent

2006-07-17 Thread ~davidLaakso
In this page http://www.chelseacreekstudio.com/ , xp ie6 renders the right column p text-indent correctly. However, ie7b3 standalone(on my end), and ie7b2 (browsercam) approximately double the p text-indent. Is this doubling of a specified text-indent a known ie7 issue? Captures: xp ie6.0

Re: [css-d] div breaking out of parent

2006-07-17 Thread Brodt, Christopher C.
I think that the easiest thing that you could do is change the height in your container element from em to %. You may have to do a DOCTYPE declaration to get IE out of quirks mode, which means that you might have trouble with IE 5. Chris Brodt University of Oklahoma Libraries Systems

Re: [css-d] Three column div

2006-07-17 Thread David Laakso
Aaron Gray wrote: Okay, I have spent several hours trying to get this to work, and still cannot get the right floating div not to hang over on the next line. Here's what I have got :- http://angray.members.beeb.net/Examples/CSS/ThreeColumnExample.html The CSS is in the HTML. So

Re: [css-d] div breaking out of parent

2006-07-17 Thread David Laakso
Holly Bergevin wrote: From: Matthew Bernhardt [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://support.knowlton.ohio-state.edu/ksa06/ [...] Matt, Opera and IE are not behaving correctly according to the specs, whereas FF and Safari, regardless of the platform, are. Auto-expanding of elements by

[css-d] css collapsible box

2006-07-17 Thread mindy
Hey all, I'm looking for a Css driven collapsible (looking) box for content. Any suggestions? Thanks! ~Mindy __ css-discuss [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d IE7b2 testing hub --

Re: [css-d] ie7b3 :: text-indent

2006-07-17 Thread Bruno Fassino
~davidLaakso wrote: In this page http://www.chelseacreekstudio.com/ , xp ie6 renders the right column p text-indent correctly. However, ie7b3 standalone(on my end), and ie7b2 (browsercam) approximately double the p text-indent. Is this doubling of a specified text-indent a known ie7 issue?

Re: [css-d] CSS Formatting - overflow for clearing floats

2006-07-17 Thread Robert O'Rourke
So, the overflow-property is a useful solution for containing floats in some cases, but not in others. regards Georg Good to know, Does a floated element within a container that has overflow : hidden ; applied respect the padding of the container? In particular the bottom

[css-d] br clear=all / problems in Explorer

2006-07-17 Thread Magenta Placenta
http://www.matthickerson.com/ http://www.matthickerson.com/stylesheet.css In Explorer, at the bottom, here. html text is being repeated/carried over from the tail end of the right column. I'm guessing this is being caused by my br clear=all / tags. Page looks fine in Mozilla, but if I remove

Re: [css-d] br clear=all / problems in Explorer

2006-07-17 Thread francky
Magenta Placenta wrote: http://www.matthickerson.com/ http://www.matthickerson.com/stylesheet.css In Explorer, at the bottom, here. html text is being repeated/carried over from the tail end of the right column. I'm guessing this is being caused by my br clear=all / tags. Page looks fine in

Re: [css-d] ie7b3 :: text-indent

2006-07-17 Thread Philippe Wittenbergh
On Jul 18, 2006, at 8:02 AM, Bruno Fassino wrote: In this page http://www.chelseacreekstudio.com/ , xp ie6 renders the right column p text-indent correctly. However, ie7b3 standalone(on my end), and ie7b2 (browsercam) approximately double the p text-indent. Is this doubling of a specified

Re: [css-d] CSS Formatting - overflow for clearing floats

2006-07-17 Thread Philippe Wittenbergh
On Jul 18, 2006, at 8:17 AM, Robert O'Rourke wrote: So, the overflow-property is a useful solution for containing floats in some cases, but not in others. regards Georg Good to know, Does a floated element within a container that has overflow : hidden ; applied respect the

Re: [css-d] ie7b3 :: text-indent

2006-07-17 Thread David Laakso
Bruno Fassino wrote: ~davidLaakso wrote: In this page http://www.chelseacreekstudio.com/ , xp ie6 renders the right column p text-indent correctly. However, ie7b3 standalone(on my end), and ie7b2 (browsercam) approximately double the p text-indent. Is this doubling of a specified

[css-d] why reply doesn't default to list?

2006-07-17 Thread Peter Michaux
Hi, I subscribe to many mailing lists and when I click reply it goes to the list. However with this list it goes to the original poster and the message is not shared for the benifit of all. Why is this? Also I may only be able to help a little and not be able to continue a private email

Re: [css-d] why reply doesn't default to list?

2006-07-17 Thread Felix Miata
On 06/07/17 20:34 (GMT-0700) Peter Michaux apparently typed: I subscribe to many mailing lists and when I click reply it goes to the list. However with this list it goes to the original poster and the message is not shared for the benifit of all. Why is this? Also I may only be able to help a

[css-d] clear problems in Firefox/Opera

2006-07-17 Thread Magenta Placenta
http://www.matthickerson.com/ http://www.matthickerson.com/stylesheet.css Explorer: appears fine Firefox/Opera: white background doesn't span height of page, right side page padding doesn't show up, nor does the footer background graphic. I believe this to be a clearing problem, but I'm not

Re: [css-d] Three column div

2006-07-17 Thread Paul Novitski
Aaron Gray wrote: Is it possible to have a three column layout with fixed width left and right columns , and variable width center column, WITH a minimum width, using div's ? At 06:02 AM 7/17/2006, Zoe M. Gillenwater replied: - Float one div left - Float one div right - Give middle div