Re: [css-d] Testing for IE 5 and Below

2006-07-26 Thread David Laakso
Dean Champeau wrote: Hello. I checked the archives briefly, but was unable to find an answer to this... If all I have is IE 6 and I want to check compatibility with IE 5 and below, can I simply remove (or comment out) the DOCTYPE declaration, then run the page through IE 6 to

Re: [css-d] IE loading and showing images

2006-07-26 Thread Stefan Witte
Thanks Michael, Changing the order fixed the problem. Don't know why I used the previous order, this way seems more logical.. Anyway I was still wondering if there is a way to make IE stop reloading the background image. I don't know if that's the issue, but what happens now is that because it

[css-d] FF MSIE background image problem

2006-07-26 Thread Terry O'Leary
Hi I've been working on my company site www.arcolectric.co.uk/index2.html and have designed it in pure CSS. I have a background img assigned to the body element with a slight fade, and a div that contains a background image of the menu bar along the top, i need the background of the menu bar to

[css-d] FF MSIE background positioning problem

2006-07-26 Thread Terry O'Leary
Hi I've been working on my company site www.arcolectric.co.uk/index2.html and have designed it in pure CSS. I have a background img assigned to the body element with a slight fade, and a div that contains a background image of the menu bar along the top, i need the background of the menu bar to

Re: [css-d] IE loading and showing images

2006-07-26 Thread Nick Fitzsimons
Stefan Witte wrote: Anyway I was still wondering if there is a way to make IE stop reloading the background image. I don't know if that's the issue, but what happens now is that because it seems to disappear and re-appear, when clicking a link, the page looks a bit shaky. While in FF for

Re: [css-d] Page/Structure Check Before Proceeding

2006-07-26 Thread Zoe M. Gillenwater
Chris Akins wrote: I have a fairly basic page I'm putting together and have it behaving, so far, in Firefox and Safari, but not in IE (wonder of wonders). Before I try to figure out the IE issues, with a little help from this list, hopefully, I'd like to get a more expert opinion on my page

Re: [css-d] IE loading and showing images

2006-07-26 Thread Zoe M. Gillenwater
Nick Fitzsimons wrote: Stefan Witte wrote: Anyway I was still wondering if there is a way to make IE stop reloading the background image. I don't know if that's the issue, but what happens now is that because it seems to disappear and re-appear, when clicking a link, the page looks a bit

Re: [css-d] FF MSIE background positioning problem

2006-07-26 Thread Zoe M. Gillenwater
Terry O'Leary wrote: Hi I've been working on my company site www.arcolectric.co.uk/index2.html and have designed it in pure CSS. I have a background img assigned to the body element with a slight fade, and a div that contains a background image of the menu bar along the top, i need the

[css-d] CSS conferences/symposiums

2006-07-26 Thread Geoff Krajeski
Does anyone know of any CSS conferences/symposiums etc... My boss is very enthusiastic in my efforts to learn, up through now, by myself. He has suggested I attend classes, none of which I can see as being useful at this point, and that I look to see if there are conferences or anything out

[css-d] List in IE

2006-07-26 Thread faramineux
IE is not showing the bullet or the list. Where am I wrong? Many thanks. CSS: ul {list-style-image: url(graphics/arrow22.gif); margin: 20px 0 0 0; } ul li { margin: .5em 0 .5em 0; } Page: ulli a href=(EmptyReference!)A/a /li li

Re: [css-d] CSS conferences/symposiums

2006-07-26 Thread Christian Heilmann
Does anyone know of any CSS conferences/symposiums etc... My boss is very enthusiastic in my efforts to learn, up through now, by myself. He has suggested I attend classes, none of which I can see as being useful at this point, and that I look to see if there are conferences or anything out

[css-d] Using 100% css with no tables

2006-07-26 Thread Jeralyn Merideth
I have been making a serious effort to not use tables in any of my web projects. However, this one had me stumped (as I am still fairly new) and I used a table inside a div wrapper for the content. Is there another way to do it using only css? If so, please help because I have work related

[css-d] Displaying page in different resolutions

2006-07-26 Thread Audano, Chris
Is there a way to easily program a site to automatically determine the users resolution? This is primarily for our intranet. We have about half of our users still using a 800x600 resolution and the others 1024x768 or higher. I'm using a container for the content so those users with 1024 or

Re: [css-d] List in IE

2006-07-26 Thread faramineux
On Jul 26, 2006, at 9:51 AM, cj wrote: try putting your image on the li instead of the ul. another possible failure might be that your graphic isn't referenced according to where your css file is. let us know if either of those work for ya. I failed to say it works well in all other

Re: [css-d] Using 100% css with no tables

2006-07-26 Thread Zoe M. Gillenwater
Jeralyn Merideth wrote: I have been making a serious effort to not use tables in any of my web projects. However, this one had me stumped (as I am still fairly new) and I used a table inside a div wrapper for the content. Is there another way to do it using only css? If so, please help

Re: [css-d] Using 100% css with no tables

2006-07-26 Thread Sam Brown
- Original Message From: Jeralyn Merideth [EMAIL PROTECTED] I have been making a serious effort to not use tables in any of my web projects. However, this one had me stumped (as I am still fairly new) and I used a table inside a div wrapper for the content. Is there another way to do

Re: [css-d] Using 100% css with no tables

2006-07-26 Thread cj
this is just a mock-up (and quickly done), but perhaps it can give you a place to start. [no comments on the fast coloring!] :D !DOCTYPE html PUBLIC -//W3C//DTD XHTML 1.0 Transitional//EN http://www.w3.org/TR/xhtml1/DTD/xhtml1-transitional.dtd; html xmlns=http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml; head

Re: [css-d] List in IE

2006-07-26 Thread cj
do you perhaps have a page we can look at then, so we're not making stabs in the dark? __ css-discuss [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d IE7b2 testing hub --

Re: [css-d] Using 100% css with no tables

2006-07-26 Thread Dave Goodchild
On 26/07/06, Zoe M. Gillenwater [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Jeralyn Merideth wrote: I have been making a serious effort to not use tables in any of my web projects. However, this one had me stumped (as I am still fairly new) and I used a table inside a div wrapper for the content. Is there

Re: [css-d] Displaying page in different resolutions

2006-07-26 Thread Christian Heilmann
Is there a way to easily program a site to automatically determine the users resolution? This is primarily for our intranet. We have about half of our users still using a 800x600 resolution and the others 1024x768 or higher. I'm using a container for the content so those users with 1024 or

Re: [css-d] List in IE

2006-07-26 Thread faramineux
On Jul 26, 2006, at 10:20 AM, cj wrote: do you perhaps have a page we can look at then, so we're not making stabs in the dark? http://www.ombredor.com/css/testing.html __ css-discuss [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [css-d] Displaying page in different resolutions

2006-07-26 Thread Martin Heiden
Chris, on Wednesday, July 26, 2006 at 15:56 Audano, Chris wrote: Is there a way to easily program a site to automatically determine the users resolution? Why? Make your layout liquid! Just get rid of the width on the container and use some repeating background images instead of fixed ones.

Re: [css-d] Using 100% css with no tables

2006-07-26 Thread Zoe M. Gillenwater
Dave Goodchild wrote: On 26/07/06, *Zoe M. Gillenwater* [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Jeralyn Merideth wrote: I have been making a serious effort to not use tables in any of my web projects. However, this one had me stumped (as I am still fairly new)

Re: [css-d] FF MSIE background image problem

2006-07-26 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
Terry O'Leary wrote: www.arcolectric.co.uk/index2.html I've discovered that i have a problem with the mast head being rendered differently in different browsers. On windows in IE the page displays perfectly, but in firefox/safari on a mac a top margin of around 7px appears in the div with

Re: [css-d] List in IE

2006-07-26 Thread cj
On 7/26/06, faramineux [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://www.ombredor.com/css/testing.html i see the bullets just fine on winxp pro sp2 ie6. __ css-discuss [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d IE7b2

Re: [css-d] List in IE

2006-07-26 Thread Michael Landis
On 7/26/06, faramineux [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: IE is not showing the bullet or the list. Where am I wrong? Many thanks. CSS: ul {list-style-image: url(graphics/arrow22.gif); margin: 20px 0 0 0; } ul li { margin: .5em 0 .5em 0; } Hi, faramineux, It is difficult to tell exactly the issue

[css-d] wrapping

2006-07-26 Thread Paul Collins
Pretty basic question: if you had an image floating right and a paragraph of text floating left, what's the best way to stop the text wrapping if it exceeds the height of the image? Can you do this without adding extra text? img src=image.gif alt= width=1 height=1 border=0 style=float:left; p

Re: [css-d] wrapping

2006-07-26 Thread Els
Paul Collins wrote: Pretty basic question: if you had an image floating right and a paragraph of text floating left, what's the best way to stop the text wrapping if it exceeds the height of the image? Can you do this without adding extra text? img src=image.gif alt= width=1 height=1

Re: [css-d] wrapping

2006-07-26 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
First, you don't need to float the test right. Give the text a left margin equal to the width of the image. -- Joel Goldstick www.columbuswebmakers.com __ css-discuss [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [css-d] CSS conferences/symposiums

2006-07-26 Thread Jan Brasna
http://css-discuss.incutio.com/?page=EventsWorldwide -- Jan Brasna :: www.alphanumeric.cz | www.janbrasna.com | www.wdnews.net __ css-discuss [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d IE7b2 testing hub

Re: [css-d] List in IE

2006-07-26 Thread faramineux
Hi, faramineux, It is difficult to tell exactly the issue without a test page. My first guess is that, since the left margins are removed from the list and the list items, there is no room to show the bullet on the left side of the list. It could also be that the image URL is pointing to the

Re: [css-d] Testing for IE 5 and Below

2006-07-26 Thread Tom Livingston
On 7/26/06, David Laakso [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dean Champeau wrote: Hello. If you mean what you have is xp ie6, you could download standalone versions of ie501sp2_nt.zip and ie55sp2_nt.zip from here http://browsers.evolt.org/?ie/32bit/standalone. Be advised that conditional comments

Re: [css-d] span/span image layover making links not work

2006-07-26 Thread Els
Magenta Placenta wrote: http://www.matthickerson.com/recent/barley/ http://www.matthickerson.com/recent/barley/stylesheet.css In Firefox and Opera, the latest news links don't work, but they do in IE 6. What I'm doing is displaying the text, then overlaying a header graphic of that text:

Re: [css-d] Testing for IE 5 and Below

2006-07-26 Thread Cliff Pruitt
Gee Dean... thanks for making the new guy jealous. My fiance isn't going to be happy about you tempting me to blow our honeymoon cash on an upgrade of my current Powerbook. ;-) - Cliff On Jul 26, 2006, at 2:07 PM, Dean Champeau wrote: Now that I think about it, I might have an ideal testing

[css-d] Site Check

2006-07-26 Thread Todd Silver
Thanks in advance for any comments or suggestions: http://www.toddsilverdesign.net/ --Todd __ css-discuss [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d IE7b2 testing hub --

[css-d] IE Whitespace to right of absolutely positioned div

2006-07-26 Thread Peter
I have a site where I've stripped out truckload of tables and even tried to protect again some font size variation. It looks good (i.e. works) in FF 1.5 and Opera 9, but hey ho, there's a 2px wide gap in IE. Here's a link to a simplified version www.kuroi.co.uk/testing/ITC. If anybody can tell

[css-d] Divs not giving a scroll bar

2006-07-26 Thread Don Miller
I have a problem with a div not giving me a scroll bar in NS7, Mozilla1, and Opera 9. Works great in IE5 and IE6 on Win98. Can someone point me to a GOOD article on using scroll bars in divs that works cross-browser. My research on Google indicates scroll bars are very iffy and very browser

Re: [css-d] CSS validation question

2006-07-26 Thread Aaron Scott Hildebrandt
When validating css at http://jigsaw.w3.org/css-validator/, do you want to include the web site URL (like you'd pull up in a browser) or the URL for the css stylesheet itself? Either or will work. I checked both of them and both give you the same colour warnings, which can be safely ignored

Re: [css-d] CSS conferences/symposiums

2006-07-26 Thread Janet Lynn Ford
at this point, and that I look to see if there are conferences or anything out there for CSS. Anyone know about this? This one might be interesting: http://www.refresh06.com/schedule/ Also, this list keeps track of about any upcoming events that are Web related:

Re: [css-d] IE Whitespace to right of absolutely positioned div

2006-07-26 Thread Tom Livingston
On 7/26/06, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have a site where I've stripped out truckload of tables and even tried to protect again some font size variation. It looks good (i.e. works) in FF 1.5 and Opera 9, but hey ho, there's a 2px wide gap in IE. Here's a link to a simplified version

Re: [css-d] List in IE

2006-07-26 Thread Uwe Kaiser
On 26.07.2006 15:40, faramineux wrote: IE is not showing the bullet or the list. Where am I wrong? Many thanks. CSS: ul {list-style-image: url(graphics/arrow22.gif); margin: 20px 0 0 0; } ul li { margin: .5em 0 .5em 0; } Because you are using a left margin of 0px, MSIE/PC won't

Re: [css-d] IE Whitespace to right of absolutely positioned div

2006-07-26 Thread Els
Tom Livingston wrote: On 7/26/06, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have a site where I've stripped out truckload of tables and even tried to protect again some font size variation. It looks good (i.e. works) in FF 1.5 and Opera 9, but hey ho, there's a 2px wide gap in IE. Here's a link to a

Re: [css-d] Freaky Win/IE disappearing/reappearing text?

2006-07-26 Thread Michael Landis
On 7/26/06, Cliff Pruitt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote about http://dev.josegomez.com/apps/bbs/thread_list_view.asp?l1id=2: The problem is that on IE the page will load but a large portion of text will just be invisible. If you scroll the window so that the missing portions are out of the viewport

[css-d] Site squashed up in IE 5s

2006-07-26 Thread Pat
I installed IE 5.01 and IE 5.5 stand alone browsers, followed the advice given on how to set them up properly and they seem to load up ok. I tested out the site that I recently finished, that worked fine in IE6 and FF, and find that both IE5.01 and IE 5.5 render the site very wrong. The main

Re: [css-d] Browser handler div scrolling differently

2006-07-26 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
Don Miller wrote: http://www.dgmservices.com/test/iframe.html http://www.dgmservices.com/test/div-test.html The above are two test pages. The div-test shows odd results for different browsers. Works great in IE5 and IE6 on Win 98 but does different things in NS7, Mozilla, and Opera.

Re: [css-d] Site squashed up in IE 5s

2006-07-26 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
Pat wrote: I tested out the site that I recently finished, that worked fine in IE6 and FF, and find that both IE5.01 and IE 5.5 render the site very wrong. http://www.singingschool.org.nz/index.html You're experiencing the differences between 'Quirks mode' and 'Standard mode'. IE6 can run

[css-d] div spacing problem

2006-07-26 Thread Aaron Gray
I seem to be having a problem with div's vertical spacing. The following web page works properly in IE but not FF, NS, and Opera. http://angray.members.beeb.net/Examples/CSS/test.html The CSS is in the HTML header. Basically the #header should be 80px in height, on IE it is, but other

Re: [css-d] div spacing problem

2006-07-26 Thread David Sharp
Aaron Gray wrote: I seem to be having a problem with div's vertical spacing. Basically the #header should be 80px in height, on IE it is, but other browsers are inserting extra line space, effectively creating another lines worth. I think you have discovered browser inconsistency

[css-d] div spacing problem

2006-07-26 Thread Aaron Gray
I seem to be having a problem with div's vertical spacing. The following web page works properly in IE but not FF, NS, and Opera. http://angray.members.beeb.net/Examples/CSS/test.html The CSS is in the HTML header. Basically the #header should be 80px in height, on IE it is, but

Re: [css-d] div spacing problem

2006-07-26 Thread David Sharp
David Sharp wrote: I think you have discovered browser inconsistency with regards to the Box Model (see http://css-discuss.incutio.com/?page=BoxModel for a far more detailed explanation than I could give you). I am assuming you are looking at IE6 as I think IE7 has corrected this issue.

Re: [css-d] div spacing problem

2006-07-26 Thread David Laakso
Aaron Gray wrote: The following web page works properly in IE but not FF, NS, and Opera. http://angray.members.beeb.net/Examples/CSS/test.html Basically the #header should be 80px in height, on IE it is, but other browsers are inserting extra line space, effectively creating another lines