[css-d] how i can make a dynamic height for div element?

2006-08-29 Thread rami doqa
hello please can u help me how can i assigned a
dynamic height for a div element.
i have the following case:
div id=div-leftleft side/div div
id=div-centercenter/div  div
id=div-rightright side/div
div-center height changes dynamically depending on the
content . so I want to know how to make div-left and
div-right heights the sane as div-center.
And is this the right way to do it.

Regards,
Dakka, Rami


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Re: [css-d] site testing, now with url!

2006-08-29 Thread Mark Henderson
Andy Mosmiller wrote:
 It is hard to tell unless you worked on the site, but I am pretty sure
 that IE 7 is setting the height of the content to exactly 300px as
 specified in my IE conditional stylesheet (which of course acts as a
 min-height for current versions.)  Have people figured out how to tackle
 this looming problem yet for when people start using this browser?

IE7 only has this problem when you used fixed units (like pixels). Where 
possible in such scenarios try to use percentages if you absolutely 
*must* show it a height (although I cannot think of a reason). In this 
case George has already provided you with the answer (* html hack to 
hide from IE7).

HTH
Mark
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Re: [css-d] radio buttons waaaaaaaaaay to big in IE

2006-08-29 Thread Marcelo Wolfgang
Hi

Thanks Micky and Mark for fine the culprit, I had forget about this rule.

I'm using 100% in that so the body will always fill the entire page,
since min-height don't work in IE, and the js I had to fix that was
causing me some bugs.
I think I don't need them for all that elements I will check it and remove.

The css got a little more messed up than I really wanted, but this is
a late project, was due almost 2 weeks ago, I will beautify it after
everything is working.

Thanks for the answer.

Grillo

On 8/28/06, Mark Henderson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  From: Marcelo Wolfgang [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Can anyone help me figure out why IE is acting so weird about
  the radio buttons on this page ?
  http://work.grillo.tk/gaiolla/checkout_shipping.html

 Sure.

  From: Micky Hulse [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Just quickly looking-over you code, I see this as a potential prob:
 
  html, body, form, fieldset, select, a, input{
padding:0px;
margin:0px;
font:10px Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;
color:#00;
height: 100%;
  }

 Micky was on the money  I can confirm this is the culprit. Modifying
 your body rule to the following:

 html, body {
 padding:0px;
 margin:0px;
 font:10px Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;
 color:#00;
 height: 100%;
 }

 and viewing in Firefox through an ie tab resolves the issue. Like Micky
 I didn't take an in-depth look at your code, but is there any particular
 reason you are using height:100% on the body? If the answer is no then
 remove that also, since, unless you're experimenting with sticky footers
 or vertical/horizontal centering, it's generally not required. Also,
 10px for a body rule is rather small, and just as a FYI, the following
 might prove an interesting read if you have the time.
 http://css-discuss.incutio.com/?page=FontSize

 HTH
 Mark

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Re: [css-d] Fixed back to top tab at bottom of screen

2006-08-29 Thread cj
not a css question, but what that button does is redirect you back to
the same page and put you into position to view the bookmark (which is
the # sign).

for example if yahoo wanted to put such a link on their main page, it
would look like http://yahoo.com/#;.  that # sign is the start of a
bookmark, and would look something like http://yahoo.com/#recentnews;
if it was used normally.  clicking on that link would then take make
the top of your viewing area show the element on the page with the id
of recentnews, such as h1 id=recentnews.  that's it!

to do the same thing with a little javascript, it would look something
like a onclick=window.scrollTo(0, 0)[Back to Top]/a
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[css-d] Background Images wont load in IE when the parent div is set to display:none

2006-08-29 Thread Bevan Christians
I currently have this issue on my website.
I use png's, so in order to fix them in ie I use the fixer() javascript code
which changes them into span's with the background png img and the
Alpha Transparency filter doohicky.

But when the parent div is set to display:none onload
ie doesnt load the background images for the children divs

so when u open the tab and set the parent div to display:block
*tada* no background images.

Anyone have a clue, or URL or blog entry or something that i can look
at that may present a solution?

I have searched through the archives in CSS-D, i didnt find anything :


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Re: [css-d] Fixed back to top tab at bottom of screen

2006-08-29 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
Tady Walsh wrote:
 I was on a website (http://home.skysports.com) which has a back to 
 top tab fixed at the bottom right of the browser window (you may 
 have to access a long article to see it. Just click on anything...), 
 no jumping, no scroll issues, nothing!!!

Yes, they must have worked overtime on that one. It's a master-piece in
browser-specific markup, scripting and styling - complete ignorance when
it comes to standards, and totally failed reliance on error-recovery.

XHTML Transitional with 261 [errors]...
http://validator.w3.org/check?uri=http://home.skysports.com/

I didn't think /anyone/ could still manage to create such a mess, but
the people behind that site have proved me wrong.
If only they had made it work across browser-land...

 I want to use this style on a site I'm working on and I cannot for 
 the life of me decipher how they have achieved this.

Well, they haven't done very well, but it's no big deal to fix elements
to the bottom of the window or anywhere else.
A simple 'position: fixed' does it in all somewhat standard-aware browsers.

 Anyone out there got any ideas or urls you can point me to..?

If you want IE6 in on the game, then one of these will do...
http://www.gunlaug.no/contents/wd_additions_15.html
http://www.gunlaug.no/contents/wd_additions_17.html
Same 'position: fixed', but different fixes for IE6 and IE5+.

Just add a link around or inside the 'fixed' element - depending on what
markup you end up with.

Having written that; I can't think of a good reason for a link to 'top
of page', since all browsers I know of understand a push on the [Home]
key perfectly well.

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[css-d] z-index relative positioning

2006-08-29 Thread matt1027
I'm wondering if the z-index is so inconsistent among different 
browsers that I should quit working with it and  use another strategy 
to accomplish what I am trying to do.

I have an image that I want to overlap the background image below 
it.  I could make just one image but then I would have to make a 
unique image for every time I want to use that round-corner 
background and it would also add to the download size of every page.

I started out by using a negative bottom margin and that worked just 
fine in Opera and Firefox but not IE6.

I then tried the z-index but that didn't help IE6.

I then switched to relative positioning and with the z-index I got it 
to work in Opera and IE6 but not in Firefox.

Is there a good tutorial on this that tells how to hack the different browsers?

Thanks,
Matt


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Re: [css-d] z-index relative positioning

2006-08-29 Thread Martin Heiden
Matt,

on Tuesday, August 29, 2006 at 17:29 matt1027 wrote:

 Is there a good tutorial on this that tells how to hack the different 
 browsers?

Did you read the wiki? http://css-discuss.incutio.com/?page=OverlappingAndZIndex

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Re: [css-d] z-index relative positioning

2006-08-29 Thread Martin Heiden
Matt,

  you may want to read the following articles too:

  http://www.aplus.co.yu/css/z-pos/
  http://www.satzansatz.de/cssd/onhavinglayout.html

regards

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[css-d] Long outstanding IE7 bug still unfixed in IE7 RC1 - CSS selector parsing, comment handling with attribute selectors - serves as an IE7 hack or filter

2006-08-29 Thread Cecil Ward
It seems IE7 RC1 still has an outstanding CSS parsing problem, which
although reported a long time ago,never got fixed, and now could serve as a
hack that forms the basis for an IE7-exclusion filter.

See the test case I posted a good while ago at
http://archivist.incutio.com/viewlist/css-discuss/72604

But please, no more CSS hacks.

Best,

Cecil Ward.

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[css-d] Floats getting hung up on previous row height differences

2006-08-29 Thread Michael
I am trying to create a table of contents where each entry consists  
of an image and some text to the right.  I have a liquid layout so  
the number of entries in each row will vary.  If a previous row has a  
short entry, because the image was smaller, the succeeding row will  
start under the short entry rather than at the beginning of the row.

http://www.sandsmuseum.com/test/testcss3.html

includes css and has been tidy'd and validated.

I know I can put a huge height on the container but I am not sure  
what the maximum size is going to be.  I also worry, perhaps  
needlessly about browser compatibility when specifying heights.

I want the div's to flow, creating nice full rows (and columns,)  
without using tables of course...

As a side issue, I prefer the text not float around the image but  
rather have the text appear as a single column.  Is there an easy way  
to make this happen.  I tried adding a huge bottom margin to the  
image to discourage text floating but that just added to the height  
and caused the rows to have a huge space between them.

I am sure there is an easy answer and do not know why I am blocked,  
he says with a wry smile.

Thanks for the help,

Michael
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[css-d] Movement in IE and FF

2006-08-29 Thread Henry Felton
Hi guys,

 OK I'm finishing a site but have two, I think related, problems. This site
is: http://www.henryfelton.co.uk/oscarlayout/; as you can see, the drop down
menus are too far to the right whatever, but more so in IE. Secondly, the
requests section changes place dependant upon the browser. I can't see any
reason why they should do this, anyone have any ideas?

Many thanks,

Henry
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[css-d] CSS Horizontal Sub-Navigation (IE Woes)

2006-08-29 Thread David A. Ensor
I'm having problems with my sub-nav displaying in that browser we all 
love.  Works fine in Safari, Firefox (Win and Mac), Camino, etc.

http://davidensor.com/dev/test.php
http://davidensor.com/dev/styles-test.php

My primary concerns is the obvious crap that is displayed in IE; 
secondary is about a recommendation on a better way to have the sub-nav 
display in the correct location below the services menu (negative 
margins scare me).

Thanks,

Dave

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[css-d] CSS Horizontal Sub-Navigation (IE Woes)

2006-08-29 Thread David A. Ensor
I'm having problems with my sub-nav displaying in that browser we all love. 
Works fine in Safari, Firefox (Win and Mac), Camino, etc. 

http://davidensor.com/dev/test.php 
http://davidensor.com/dev/styles-test.php 

My primary concerns is the obvious navigational crap that is displayed in
IE; secondary is about a recommendation on a better way to have the sub-nav
display in the correct location below the services menu (negative margins
scare me). 

Thanks, 

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Re: [css-d] z-index relative positioning - It Works!

2006-08-29 Thread matt1027
At 11:38 AM 8/29/2006, Martin Heiden wrote:

Did you read the wiki? 
http://css-discuss.incutio.com/?page=OverlappingAndZIndex


The wiki had the had the key.

Positioned elements paint on top of everything else if they don't 
have negative z-index.

The div that was causing problems was relatively positioned.  So I 
gave the preceeding div a relative position also (even though it 
didn't need it) and then its higher z-index was enabled to place it 
above the relatively positioned div following it which had a lower z-index.

I had previously been able to get the order to change by using a 
negative z-index but then Firefox put it completely out of site under 
the whole page.

At least it's working in Opera 9, IE 6 and Firefox 1.5.  I hope it 
holds up when I upload and check with Browsercam.

Thanks again,
Matt 


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[css-d] Menu stopped working in IE

2006-08-29 Thread Michelle Tarby
I'm having a problem with my menu and IE - if you look at
http://www.lemoyne.edu/student_life/index.htm
You'll see that if the main heading is longer than the flu-out list, the 
menu skips down to the next menu.

I'm guessing I've got a problem with the settings I'm using for my 
z-index, but I can't figure out what one to change.

Any assistance would be much appreciated!

Michelle

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[css-d] Catawampus shadows!

2006-08-29 Thread Amy Ostrom
Dear All:

We are using an image repository, and I thought it would be pretty to add
shadows to the thumbnails (the shadows also stop the images from bleeding
onto the page).  However, sometimes the text to the right is taller than
the image itself and seems to be affecting the image's height.  Does anyone
have any ideas how to fix this so the image is unaffected by the size of the
container?  Thank you in advance. :-)

http://search.jocohistory.org/cdm4/browse.php

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Re: [css-d] Strange css rules

2006-08-29 Thread Craig Cook
 *padding:1px;

This is the lonestar hack which sends declarations only to IE5 (in
both Windows and MacOS 9, it seems).
http://www.media451.com/experiments/css/hacks/ie_star.html

 _width:140px;

This is the underscore hack which sends declarations to IE5 and IE6
in Windows (fixed in IE7).
http://wellstyled.com/css-underscore-hack.html

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[css-d] A newbie's first enounter with IE css bugs

2006-08-29 Thread Max Bane
Greetings, css-d

I've recently started working on a new website design for the lab I
work for. I'm not very experienced as a web designer, particularly in
the use of CSS, but I've been studying and experimenting a lot for the
past several weeks. I've finally got something that looks decent in
firefox, but has some annoying display problems in IE.  I've been
researching as much as I can of the information available online about
IE's various css bugs, and I suspect my problems stem from the 3px
float error and boxes that grow when they're not supposed to, but I'm
having trouble working out how exactly these bugs and their
workarounds apply in my particular case.

The development version of my site design is being served at:
http://clml.uchicago.edu:8081/

Hopefully the source is fairly readable. The css file is at
http://clml.uchicago.edu:8081/static/css/main.css

I would be most grateful if any of you could take a look at it and
make any suggestions. In particular, I've noticed the following things
get screwed up in IE:
- the main content box (with the white background) is for some reason
not flush with the menu to its left (as it is in firefox), and thus
does not line up with the orange header and footer.
- the blue div which runs horizontally across the field grows taller
as the window resizes, whereas it is supposed to keep a fixed height
(as it does in firefox).
- the main content box doesn't respect its minimum height in IE

I'm aware that PNGs don't render with transparency in IE, so I'll get
around to fixing the logo by converting to a gif. Also, if you're
curious, i'm rounding the corners of the header and footer in
javascript (with MochiKit).

Thanks for any assistance. Yell at me if these problems have been
answered too often -- just provide a link to the appropriate part of
the archives :)
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Re: [css-d] Strange css rules

2006-08-29 Thread KJ'[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Thank you very much... also to others that replied. (mystery solved  :-) )

Craig Cook skrev:
 *padding:1px;
 

 This is the lonestar hack which sends declarations only to IE5 (in
 both Windows and MacOS 9, it seems).
 http://www.media451.com/experiments/css/hacks/ie_star.html

   
 _width:140px;
 

 This is the underscore hack which sends declarations to IE5 and IE6
 in Windows (fixed in IE7).
 http://wellstyled.com/css-underscore-hack.html

   
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Re: [css-d] A newbie's first enounter with IE css bugs

2006-08-29 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
Max Bane wrote:
 http://clml.uchicago.edu:8081/

 - the main content box (with the white background) is for some reason
  not flush with the menu to its left (as it is in firefox), and thus 
 does not line up with the orange header and footer.

3px jog bug.
Simplest fix is to adjust the backside margin on the floating menu in
IE6 (and older)...

* html div#menu {margin-right: -3px;}


 - the blue div which runs horizontally across the field grows taller 
 as the window resizes, whereas it is supposed to keep a fixed height 
 (as it does in firefox).

IE6 doesn't respect given dimensions.
Only fix is to hide the overflow first - which prevents the element from
growing, and then make the overflow visible again.

Such a fix can only work in IE/win, since it is relying on IE-bugs to
fix IE-bugs. Will also only work if the other elements can be relative
positioned - which isn't always the case.

No problems when added to _your_ page.

* html div#crossbox {overflow: hidden;}
* html div#crossbox * {position: relative;}


 - the main content box doesn't respect its minimum height in IE

Make use of the fact that IE6 doesn't respect given dimensions. It'll
work to your advantage here.

* html #content {height: 350px;}

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Generally: font-size isn't fixed in any browser - despite the use of
pixels, so it would be wise to change the element-dimensioning slightly
to make it look better when subjected to regular, or optional,
font-resizing. The menu overflows blue container in all my browsers.

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[css-d] Scrollable TABLE?

2006-08-29 Thread Wes Gamble
I have a DIV that defines a content well in a three - column layout.

Within my content DIV, I have a TABLE whose width, data-wise, I won't 
be able to control.  I would like to be able to have my table be 
horizontally scrollable based on whether or not the data to be displayed 
is wider than the content well.

So far I've tried:

table#spreadsheet_contents {
width: 100%;
overflow: scroll;
}

which doesn't work in either FF or IE.

Do I have to abandon the table and construct the table out of DIVs in 
order to do this?
Or should I use a frame perhaps?

Thanks,
Wes

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Re: [css-d] Scrollable TABLE?

2006-08-29 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
Wes Gamble wrote:
 Do I have to abandon the table and construct the table out of DIVs in
  order to do this? Or should I use a frame perhaps?

Neither.
Wrap a div around your table, and set 'overflow: scroll' or 'overflow:
auto' on that div.

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Re: [css-d] A newbie's first enounter with IE css bugs

2006-08-29 Thread Max Bane
On 8/29/06, Gunlaug Sørtun [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Max Bane wrote:
  http://clml.uchicago.edu:8081/

  - the main content box (with the white background) is for some reason
   not flush with the menu to its left (as it is in firefox), and thus
  does not line up with the orange header and footer.

 3px jog bug.
 Simplest fix is to adjust the backside margin on the floating menu in
 IE6 (and older)...

 * html div#menu {margin-right: -3px;}

Aha - I had tried making the content box's margin-left -3px, but that
alone did not work. Neither did your suggestion by itself -- but both
of them together seem to have fixed it. Thanks!

 * html div#crossbox {overflow: hidden;}
 * html div#crossbox * {position: relative;}

 * html #content {height: 350px;}

These worked perfectly as is. :)

 Generally: font-size isn't fixed in any browser - despite the use of
 pixels, so it would be wise to change the element-dimensioning slightly
 to make it look better when subjected to regular, or optional,
 font-resizing. The menu overflows blue container in all my browsers.

Thanks for pointing this out. I'll play around with the overflow
options and see what I can do to make it play nice with arbitrary font
sizes.

Thanks for the help!
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Re: [css-d] site testing, now with url!

2006-08-29 Thread Mark Henderson
 I mistakenly wrote
 In this case George has already provided you with 
 the answer (* html hack to hide from IE7).

My apologies for misspelling your name Georg.

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Re: [css-d] Newbie seeking layout examples to study

2006-08-29 Thread Donna Jones
  I've been working for about 2 days straight trying to get a fairly
  straightforward alignment set up
  (left navigation
  top header that runs the width of the page starting after left nav
  middle part of page (under header)
  right side of page (narrow margin)
  and footer)


Hi Anne:  Are you going for fixed width or fluid?  I started to show you 
some of the things I did but not sure if it fits what you want.

  I've learned a great deal and perused many sites and bought 2 books 
- but
  still can't get it right.  I would like to know if someone can point 
me to
  some sites that have a basic 3 column layout with header and footers 
where I
  can study the code?  Thank you!


In my mind, what you describe in your first paragraph would work with a 
two column layout.  but maybe i'm not understanding.  If I'm 
understanding what you want, its not particularly easy to find.  Most 
sites, it seems have a header that stretches all the way across, then 
content (two or three columns) then a footer.  Here's one I did recently 
(actually not even finished yet)  that I think is what you're saying 
and its two columns, http://www.maineddc.org/about.htm  The menu could 
easily go in what I'm calling the firstcolumn.  So thought maybe this 
might help.

best
Donna


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Re: [css-d] A newbie's first enounter with IE css bugs

2006-08-29 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
Max Bane wrote:

 3px jog bug. Simplest fix is to adjust the backside margin on the 
 floating menu in IE6 (and older)...
 
 * html div#menu {margin-right: -3px;}
 
 
 Aha - I had tried making the content box's margin-left -3px, but that
  alone did not work. Neither did your suggestion by itself -- but 
 both of them together seem to have fixed it.

May I clear that one up a bit in case someone is looking for similar
fixes. There's _more than one_ IE-bug involved here, and that may add a
bit of confusion about the whole thing.


Of course both fixes were needed, since the 3px jog can be seen as
added to the left margin of #content. A 'margin-left: 150px' + '3px jog'
will result in _153px distance_ from the left edge of #page, and IE6
can't go below that.

However, you _had_ already reduced the left margin on #content below the
danger-zone  - IE had 'margin-left: 148px' while others had
'margin-left: 150px', so clearly I didn't have to add it in.


What's _really_ important is that you also have a 'width: 70%' declared
on #content, which acts as a 'hasLayout'[1] trigger in IE. This
transfers the 3px jog onto the entire 'Layout box', and is usually seen
as a 3px jog fix.

Triggering 'hasLayout' also has the effect that #content no longer needs
its left margin to rest on, and the left margin on #content can
therefore just as well be set to zero the way IE/win sees it.
Not even a ridiculous value of 'margin-left: -3000px' on #content will
make a difference in IE6, since it won't let that '3px jog gap' become
less than 3px anyway.


The real fix is the pulled-in backside margin on the floating #menu
that #content is lining up against - since the 3px jog is still there,
and that's what is achieved by this...

* html div#menu {margin-right: -3px;}

...which simply lets the 3px jog occupy some of the floating menu's
space. However, this fix can only work when there's nothing else that
creates a distance in addition to the 3px jog bug.

regards
Georg

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Re: [css-d] Newbie seeking layout examples to study

2006-08-29 Thread Mark Henderson
I would like to know if someone can point me to  
 some sites that have a basic 3 column layout with header and footers
where I  
 can study the code?  Thank you!

I missed the earlier part of this thread, but try the layout gala:

http://blog.html.it/layoutgala/

If you want a better explanation and further insight then the following
might help:

http://alistapart.com/articles/negativemargins
http://alistapart.com/articles/holygrail

HTH
Mark

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[css-d] IE fieldset background bug

2006-08-29 Thread Richard Grevers
I can't find this one in the wiki...

With default browser positioning of legend (straddling the border)
IE6 seems to paint the background of fieldset above its border, up
to the top of the legend.

body {background-color:#fff;}
fieldset.basketholder {border: 1px solid #aaa; margin-bottom: 1.5em;
padding:0;  background-color: #eee; color:#000;}
.basketholder legend {border: 1px solid #aaa; padding: 3px 5px;
background-color: #fff; font-weight: bold;
margin-left:0;margin-right:0;
}
applying the background colour to a child of fieldset also fails as
that starts 0.5em below the top border of fieldset.
Are there any workarounds for this (other than forgoing either the
border or the background colour?
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Re: [css-d] IE fieldset background bug

2006-08-29 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
Richard Grevers wrote:
 I can't find this one in the wiki...
 
 With default browser positioning of legend (straddling the border) 
 IE6 seems to paint the background of fieldset above its border, up 
 to the top of the legend.

It's not actually a background bug, but rather an offset built into the
entire construction in IE/win. I have studied it, but not needed a fix
often enough to bother about all the details and documenting it.

 Are there any workarounds for this (other than forgoing either the 
 border or the background colour?

I've found the following to work quite well in IE6...

@media screen {
* html legend {
margin: -24px 0 0 0;
position: fixed;
line-height: 1.4;
}
}

...which will simply correct, or counter-act, the margin on legend
that's causing the problem in IE. Values must of course be tuned
slightly to the actual case.

Note that this fix also make use of the fact that IE6 doesn't properly
understand 'position: fixed', so the the entire hack is needed to make
sure no other browser ever see this fix.

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