[css-d] float help in IE6/7

2008-10-07 Thread Dan Katz
Hi folks,

Please take a look at the header of this site:

http://ecosphere-services.com

Looks fine in firefox, but in IE6 and 7 the locations/phone numbers spread out.

Thanks in advance for any help.

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Re: [css-d] float help in IE6/7

2008-10-07 Thread Serge Krul
Hi,

I would try to set a width on div#locations (218px or so).

Serge Krul


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[css-d] Site check please - DAC

2008-10-07 Thread Peter Hyde-Smith
10/06/2008

Would appreciate a general site check, please, especially in IE6. No
breakage issues in OS and browsers noted below. I am also interested to know
if the Gilder/Levin image replacement in the header is working. If it isn't,
you'll see plain text *The Drug Affected Children Website* (it isn't working
in Avant 11.6).

http://www.fatpawdesign.com/DAC/DACproducts.html

http://www.fatpawdesign.com/DAC/DACpagecss.css
http://www.fatpawdesign.com/DAC/DACresetcss.css
http://www.fatpawdesign.com/DAC/DACtablecss.css
http://www.fatpawdesign.com/DAC/DACjavascriptcss.css

Yea, yea, yea, I'll eventually learn to link the CSS into one or two
combined sheets...

TIA and Best,

Peter
www.fatpawdesign.com
developed in: WinXP/SP2 + FF3.0.3 at 1280x1024
checked in: IE8.0beta/O9.52/Av11.6/Cr0.2
In God we trust, all else bring data... 

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Re: [css-d] float help in IE6/7

2008-10-07 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
Dan Katz wrote:
 Please take a look at the header of this site:
 
 http://ecosphere-services.com

IE can't shrink width to content on floats when the content is floats.
Thus, IE needs a declared width on #locations.

That width must be in 'em' to accommodate font-resizing, but because you
have mixed pixels and em in there you'll never get it right.
Something like...

#locations {*width: 15.5em;}

...(hacked for IE-only - this way or whichever way you like) will be
close though.

regards
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Re: [css-d] Site check please - DAC

2008-10-07 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
Peter Hyde-Smith wrote:

 Would appreciate a general site check, please, especially in IE6. No
 breakage issues in OS and browsers noted below. I am also interested to know
 if the Gilder/Levin image replacement in the header is working.

Ok in IE6.

 http://www.fatpawdesign.com/DAC/DACproducts.html

IE6 doesn't support transparent borders, so there are borders on 
.rightcolcontainer li a. Better remove those and compensate with the 
paddings.

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[css-d] IE position problem

2008-10-07 Thread JGardner
Hello,

I posted this last week but did not receive any replies. I have since tried to 
work on it some more but I have not found the solution, so I thought I would 
try again.  

I am trying to convert this site from tables to a CSS layout and am having 
problems with the positioning of the navigation on the left and the search box 
on the top right.  It looks correct in Firefox but not IE 6 or IE 7.

You can see it here - http://www.misterinkjet.com/hp-inkjet-product-css.htm

Thanks,
Jennifer

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Re: [css-d] IE position problem

2008-10-07 Thread Serge Krul
Hi,
for the left search box you need to reset the top margin of the form (IE has
different defaults than FF):
#topNavContainer form { margin-top:0; }

(you can also drop the non-semantic br after the preceding span, form is
a block level element)

for the left navigation:
on my screen i see problem both in IE and FF. imo you need to drop the
negative left margin (-29px).

hope this helps,

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Re: [css-d] Site check please - DAC

2008-10-07 Thread David Laakso
Peter Hyde-Smith wrote:
 10/06/2008

 Would appreciate a general site check, please, especially in IE6. No
 breakage issues in OS and browsers noted below. I am also interested to know
 if the Gilder/Levin image replacement in the header is working.


 Peter

   

O.K. Mac OS X 10.4.11 Opera, Safari, SeaMonkey, WebKit, Camino. Camino a 
little slower to load the G/L, but not to worry. My sister, viewed the 
site beside me, did a double take on drug addiction being mixed in with 
shopping carts, but she's twisted.

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Re: [css-d] IE position problem

2008-10-07 Thread Serge Krul
Hi,

In CSS there are properties that are inherited (such as the font-family
property) and some that are not.
Padding is not inherited [
http://www.w3.org/TR/CSS21/box.html#padding-properties]http://www.w3.org/TR/CSS21/box.html#padding-properties
To zero padding on all elements you could use the star selector:
* {
 padding:0;
}

but it is not recommended, because browsers have defaults for a reason.
If you want to do a proper styling reset you should check this [
http://meyerweb.com/eric/thoughts/2007/05/01/reset-reloaded/ ] first.

I personally don't like these global resets. There are certain elements
(such as lists headings and paragraphs) that I'm always aware of their
defaults, but generally I'm fine with the rest of them.

Serge Krul


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Re: [css-d] IE position problem

2008-10-07 Thread JGardner
Thank you!

I do have a question though.  I thought by setting the padding and margin to 0 
in the body that it removed all margins through out the document.  I am 
surmising from the fix you sent below that is not true.  Can someone clear this 
up for me?

Thank you,
Jennifer

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Creating your e-Presence
www.JGardnerDesigns.com



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From: Serge Krul [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: Tuesday, October 7, 2008 9:38:26 AM
Subject: Re: [css-d] IE position problem

Hi,
for the left search box you need to reset the top margin of the form (IE has
different defaults than FF):
#topNavContainer form { margin-top:0; }

(you can also drop the non-semantic br after the preceding span, form is
a block level element)

for the left navigation:
on my screen i see problem both in IE and FF. imo you need to drop the
negative left margin (-29px).

hope this helps,

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Re: [css-d] IE position problem

2008-10-07 Thread Alan K Baker
Jennifer.

Setting padding and margin to 0 in 'body' will globally remove all padding and 
margins until you change the situation. That is, if you do nothing else to 
padding or margins, they will never appear.
As soon as you define a class or id and change its padding and/or margin, that 
definition will be obeyed within that class or id. Anything outside those 
definitions, that is in the body only, will obey the definition for the body. 
i.e. No padding/no margin.

I hope this helps.

Regards, 
 
Alan.
 
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www.virtualtheatreorgans.com
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  - Original Message - 
  From: JGardner 
  To: Serge Krul 
  Cc: CSS List 
  Sent: Tuesday, October 07, 2008 4:45 PM
  Subject: Re: [css-d] IE position problem


  Thank you!

  I do have a question though.  I thought by setting the padding and margin to 
0 in the body that it removed all margins through out the document.  I am 
surmising from the fix you sent below that is not true.  Can someone clear this 
up for me?

  Thank you,
  Jennifer

   JGardner Designs
  Creating your e-Presence
  www.JGardnerDesigns.com

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[css-d] Overflow and no

2008-10-07 Thread Jack Blankenships
Any ideas on how to have an element's overflow property apply to some
children but not to others?

For example,  I have a div that contains a table/grid that I want to
have set to overflow: auto on a specific height.  This way the results
stay within a specific set of dimensions and do not push the rest of
the layout into undesirable locations.  The problem is that I also
want to include some css tooltips for specific cells in this
table/grid, some of which are large enough that I would like to expand
them out of this standard boundary because they would be displayed
above the layout content and disappear when :hover is not activated.

Thanks,
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[css-d] validating css to account for accessibilty

2008-10-07 Thread Jen Strickland
Hello!

I've validated my code, and wanted to be tidy and validate my css, so  
I tried using http://jigsaw.w3.org/css-validator/

... and it validates, but has warnings.  I understand why, but it's so  
confusing how all the background-colors need to be accounted for.  Is  
there some handy-dandy easier way, than to list each and every one  
with a background???  I started going through each warning and trying  
to make sure I alleviated each, but the number of warnings just kept  
going up and down... it seems nonsensical.


http://ggauctiongallery.com/css/main.css
http://ggauctiongallery.com/css/core.css

Thanks!

Jen



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[css-d] Questions regarding how to make selected li red with css

2008-10-07 Thread Laura
Hi Everyone...

I have two questions and I'm hoping someone here might know the
answers...

I'm not that experienced with css, and am very curious if anyone
out here would know how I can achieve the effect of highlighting
the selected item on my list in red instead of blue.

The page is at http://www.octos.org/ooth/2new.htm

I have validated it and noted that the function that I'm using
that will allow me to put the document in the window immediately
to the right uses 's and that is throwing errors with the
validator. From what I can tell there are no other errors except
those in the AJAX script.

Are there any hints for having the script tag elements validate
or will they always give errors?

Much thanks for your assistance and consideration. Have a
wonderful day everyone! 

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Re: [css-d] Questions regarding how to make selected li red with css

2008-10-07 Thread David Laakso
Laura wrote:

 I'm not that experienced with css, and am very curious if anyone
 out here would know how I can achieve the effect of highlighting
 the selected item on my list in red instead of blue.

 The page is at http://www.octos.org/ooth/2new.htm
   

This should do that--
#navcontainer a:hover {
background-color: red; - ::red
border-bottom: none;
color: #FF;
margin-bottom: 0;   
text-decoration: none;
}



 I have validated it and noted that the function that I'm using
 that will allow me to put the document in the window immediately
 to the right uses 's and that is throwing errors with the
 validator. 

Tidy Online is helpful. Correct what Tidy does not correct manually.

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Re: [css-d] validating css to account for accessibilty

2008-10-07 Thread Benjamin Hawkes-Lewis
Jen Strickland wrote:
 Hello!
 
 I've validated my code, and wanted to be tidy and validate my css, so  
 I tried using http://jigsaw.w3.org/css-validator/
 
 ... and it validates, but has warnings.  I understand why, but it's so  
 confusing how all the background-colors need to be accounted for.  Is  
 there some handy-dandy easier way, than to list each and every one  
 with a background???

Setting color every time you set background-color (and vice versa), 
and setting background-color every time you set background-image, is 
the only truly robust approach in the face of unpredictable markup and 
browser configurations.

Also, make sure when you set :link colors you also set :unvisited too.

You might find this less cumbersome if you generate your CSS with 
preprocessed templates, allowing you to define particular colors by name 
or function or even group whole declarations.

Simple example using Perl:

http://dorward.me.uk/www/css/inheritance/

Note also that transparent and inherit are valid background-color 
values, although the later is poorly supported by Internet Explorer 6.

Good ways to test how such CSS works in practice include:

1. Change your default colors to white text on black.

2. Try one of Opera's High Contrast View options.

3. Try IE and Windows XP in High Contrast mode.

4. Disabling images.

In terms of CSS and accessibility, note that Meyer's reset CSS, which 
you're using, unsets the default keyboard focus ring (outline: 0;), 
but you have not explicitly set any keyboard focus outline as a 
replacement. See 
http://www.w3.org/TR/WCAG20/#navigation-mechanisms-focus-visible for Web 
Accessibility Initiative's emerging guidance about ensuring keyboard 
focus is always visible.

For more on CSS and accessibility issues see:

http://24ways.org/2007/css-for-accessibility

and

http://www.w3.org/TR/WCAG10-CSS-TECHS/

and

http://www.w3.org/TR/WCAG20-TECHS/

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Re: [css-d] Questions regarding how to make selected li red with css

2008-10-07 Thread David Laakso
Laura wrote:
 hi David,

 That did change the color, but when the page changes on the other
 side the red goes away. Perhaps I did not explain it right, but
 when they look at the document, they can't really tell where
 there are since the querystring doesn't change to reflect the
 page... Do you know if there is a way to make the red stay even
 if not hovered over?

 I'll look at the tidy thing, can I replace  in a script with
 amp;amp;?

 Much thanks for your assistance

   


Sorry, no-- not without changing the markup. *Perhaps someone else on 
the list can answer your question(s).*
Or ask on the list you started from:
webdesign-l
Dunno, about the double, amp; either-- I rely on Tidy for such matters...




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Re: [css-d] IE position problem

2008-10-07 Thread Alyda Gilmore
I think it's a bit more complicated than that. I found this statement
online: There are some cases where the inner selector does not inherit the
surrounding selector's values, but these should stand out logically. For
example, the margin-top property is not inherited; intuitively, a paragraph
would not have the same top margin as the document body.

I completely disagree with the logical and intuitive sentiments, and find
browser implementation of margins and padding to be, among other things,
inconsistent. I did a bunch of testing about a year ago and ended up using
Tantek's stylesheet (undohtml.css).

http://tantek.com/log/2004/09.html#d06t2354
http://meyerweb.com/eric/thoughts/2004/09/15/emreallyem-undoing-htmlcss/
http://creatingdrew.com/2008/08/6-popular-css-reset-techniques/

---
Alyda


 From: Alan K Baker [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Reply-To: Alan K Baker [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Date: Tue, 7 Oct 2008 17:38:42 +0100
 To: css-d css-d@lists.css-discuss.org
 Subject: Re: [css-d] IE position problem
 
 Jennifer.
 
 Setting padding and margin to 0 in 'body' will globally remove all padding and
 margins until you change the situation. That is, if you do nothing else to
 padding or margins, they will never appear.
 As soon as you define a class or id and change its padding and/or margin, that
 definition will be obeyed within that class or id. Anything outside those
 definitions, that is in the body only, will obey the definition for the body.
 i.e. No padding/no margin.
 
 I hope this helps.
 
 Regards, 
  
 Alan.
  
 www.theatreorgans.co.uk
 www.virtualtheatreorgans.com
 Admin: ConnArtistes, UKShopsmiths, 2nd Touch  A-P groups
 Shopsmith 520 + bits
 Flatulus Antiquitus
 
 
   - Original Message -
   From: JGardner 
   To: Serge Krul 
   Cc: CSS List 
   Sent: Tuesday, October 07, 2008 4:45 PM
   Subject: Re: [css-d] IE position problem
 
 
   Thank you!
 
   I do have a question though.  I thought by setting the padding and margin to
 0 in the body that it removed all margins through out the document.  I am
 surmising from the fix you sent below that is not true.  Can someone clear
 this up for me?
 
   Thank you,
   Jennifer
 
JGardner Designs
   Creating your e-Presence
   www.JGardnerDesigns.com
 
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Re: [css-d] Questions regarding how to make selected li red with css

2008-10-07 Thread Benjamin Hawkes-Lewis
Laura wrote:
 Are there any hints for having the script tag elements validate
 or will they always give errors?

Short answer: put the script in question in an external script imported 
with the src attribute rather than inline.

Longer answer, read:

* XHTML 1.0 specification on Script and Style elements:
   http://www.w3.org/TR/xhtml1/#h-4.8

* XHTML 1.0 specification's compatibility suggestions for Embedded 
Style Sheets and Scripts when serving as text/html tag soup:
   http://www.w3.org/TR/xhtml1/#C_4

* HTML Comments in Scripts for a discussion of some of the issues:
   http://lachy.id.au/log/2005/05/script-comments

You might also want to read:

http://www.webdevout.net/articles/beware-of-xhtml

and think about whether XHTML was really the best choice on technical 
grounds for your use-case …

Hope that helps.

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Re: [css-d] Overflow and no

2008-10-07 Thread Ingo Chao
Jack Blankenships wrote:
 Any ideas on how to have an element's overflow property apply to some
 children but not to others?
 
 For example,  I have a div that contains a table/grid that I want to
 have set to overflow: auto on a specific height.  This way the results
 stay within a specific set of dimensions and do not push the rest of
 the layout into undesirable locations.  The problem is that I also
 want to include some css tooltips for specific cells in this
 table/grid, some of which are large enough that I would like to expand
 them out of this standard boundary because they would be displayed
 above the layout content and disappear when :hover is not activated.
 
 Thanks,
 Jack

Don't know out of my head. If the tooltip is absolutely positioned and 
the containing block (for example, another div with position:relative) 
for this absolute positioning is outside of the overflow-div ... but I 
fear the table limits that, since positioning inside a table is 
difficult ... we need an example page.

It depends. Scrollbars on a block inside a browser window with 
scrollbars could be worse than pushing the layout a bit.

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[css-d] Website Browser issues and Coder??

2008-10-07 Thread EDWARD F KELLEY
Hello, I am new to this ground and fully understanding the coding world. I 
hired coders through rentacoder.com, and they have been very difficult with me. 

Several months ago I mentioned that my site looked different on my friends 
computer. They told me that it was her computer settings and this was the 
reason why and not to be concerned. Well time has gone on and come to find out 
about 1/2 of all my friend can not view my site right. I mentioned this concern 
again to the coders and they told me, that it was not an issue. 

I then found this response strange so I went online and found a site that my 
site showed that my site was distorted on other browsers about 1/2 of the time. 
So I then asked them to fix and they told me that they would not do it. 

They have done many unethical things from holding me up for money (via paypal) 
, they also asked for payment in full prior to the completion of the site (by 1 
month), missed deadline, forgot to mention holidays, office closings, power 
outages, etc... something always is coming up so that they can not work. And if 
I want them to I work had send more money through paypal. Not to mention that 
they did not like that I was a women and always called Americans stupid, 
meaning me I am sure??

So what I am saying is that I have moved on from them, yet I still have this 
browser issue and I need someone to help me. 

Please help I must have this work so that I can stay home with my disables son. 
They knew this and this is why I think that I would do anything that they would 
say; I know that it was not smart. 

Please email me at: kelleyfam3 at sbcglobal do net , if you can help.

Thanks for any help! P.L.E.A.S.E.!!
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Re: [css-d] Website Browser issues and Coder??

2008-10-07 Thread Alexandru Dinulescu
Hello.

There are many people who are scammers and poor coders on RentACoder and
people may be difficult with you HOWEVER

Lets take it point it by point.
1) Yes your site may look different on your friends computer, also it may be
because of her settings/ Operating System/Browser. Normally this should not
have happened BUT those coders may have done a poor job on your project.
2) Since you are the client, every issue you say can be an issue, thats why
it's RentAcoder, and for those are the messages. IF you do not agree on
something you can just enter in an arbistration procedure and everything
will be set by the Arbitrators (RAC employees)
3) It's your problem for paying them IN FRONT, RENT A CODER SPECIFICIALLY
SAYS THAT YOU MUST NOT PAY ANYONE PRIOR TO WORK COMPLETION OR MILESTONE
COMPLETION. If you did that then it's your fault and your fault only. And
since they got yoru money they have no interest in doing it.
4) You had the power to stop all the things they did to you via the RAC
arbitration process, which you should have done. Also it SAYS EXPLICITLY on
RENT A CODER NEVER TO SEND MONEY THROUGH PAYPAL. thats why there are safe
escroew systems in place. because things like this wont happen. This was
YOUR fault for not reading all the rules, and frankly because you sent money
through other means rather then a RAC escrow your account can be banned from
Rent a Coder. As for calling the americans stupid, most americans are not
fine attentive to detail and some are not very computer literate (especially
those in their 30s-40s) which is normal however.
5) Asking for help without PAYING for your help is bullshit, why people
should help you out when they have nothing to gain. just for helping sake.
Time is Money.

Proud Member and user of RentAcoder.com
RAC 
Profilehttp://www.rentacoder.com/RentACoder/DotNet/SoftwareCoders/ShowBioInfo.aspx?lngAuthorId=6995323


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Web Developer
(X)HTML/CSS Specialist


On Wed, Oct 8, 2008 at 12:37 AM, EDWARD F KELLEY
[EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote:

 Hello, I am new to this ground and fully understanding the coding world. I
 hired coders through rentacoder.com, and they have been very difficult
 with me.

 Several months ago I mentioned that my site looked different on my friends
 computer. They told me that it was her computer settings and this was the
 reason why and not to be concerned. Well time has gone on and come to find
 out about 1/2 of all my friend can not view my site right. I mentioned this
 concern again to the coders and they told me, that it was not an issue.

 I then found this response strange so I went online and found a site that
 my site showed that my site was distorted on other browsers about 1/2 of the
 time. So I then asked them to fix and they told me that they would not do
 it.

 They have done many unethical things from holding me up for money (via
 paypal) , they also asked for payment in full prior to the completion of the
 site (by 1 month), missed deadline, forgot to mention holidays, office
 closings, power outages, etc... something always is coming up so that they
 can not work. And if I want them to I work had send more money through
 paypal. Not to mention that they did not like that I was a women and always
 called Americans stupid, meaning me I am sure??

 So what I am saying is that I have moved on from them, yet I still have
 this browser issue and I need someone to help me.

 Please help I must have this work so that I can stay home with my disables
 son. They knew this and this is why I think that I would do anything that
 they would say; I know that it was not smart.

 Please email me at: kelleyfam3 at sbcglobal do net , if you can help.

 Thanks for any help! P.L.E.A.S.E.!!
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Re: [css-d] Website Browser issues and Coder??

2008-10-07 Thread Chris Akins
How does any of this have anything to do with this list's reason for existence?

On Tue, Oct 7, 2008 at 5:24 PM, Alexandru Dinulescu
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hello.

 There are many people who are scammers and poor coders on RentACoder and
 people may be difficult with you HOWEVER

 Lets take it point it by point.
 1) Yes your site may look different on your friends computer, also it may be
 because of her settings/ Operating System/Browser. Normally this should not
 have happened BUT those coders may have done a poor job on your project.
 2) Since you are the client, every issue you say can be an issue, thats why
 it's RentAcoder, and for those are the messages. IF you do not agree on
 something you can just enter in an arbistration procedure and everything
 will be set by the Arbitrators (RAC employees)
 3) It's your problem for paying them IN FRONT, RENT A CODER SPECIFICIALLY
 SAYS THAT YOU MUST NOT PAY ANYONE PRIOR TO WORK COMPLETION OR MILESTONE
 COMPLETION. If you did that then it's your fault and your fault only. And
 since they got yoru money they have no interest in doing it.
 4) You had the power to stop all the things they did to you via the RAC
 arbitration process, which you should have done. Also it SAYS EXPLICITLY on
 RENT A CODER NEVER TO SEND MONEY THROUGH PAYPAL. thats why there are safe
 escroew systems in place. because things like this wont happen. This was
 YOUR fault for not reading all the rules, and frankly because you sent money
 through other means rather then a RAC escrow your account can be banned from
 Rent a Coder. As for calling the americans stupid, most americans are not
 fine attentive to detail and some are not very computer literate (especially
 those in their 30s-40s) which is normal however.
 5) Asking for help without PAYING for your help is bullshit, why people
 should help you out when they have nothing to gain. just for helping sake.
 Time is Money.

 Proud Member and user of RentAcoder.com
 RAC 
 Profilehttp://www.rentacoder.com/RentACoder/DotNet/SoftwareCoders/ShowBioInfo.aspx?lngAuthorId=6995323


 --
 ---
 Alexandru Dinulescu
 Web Developer
 (X)HTML/CSS Specialist


 On Wed, Oct 8, 2008 at 12:37 AM, EDWARD F KELLEY
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote:

 Hello, I am new to this ground and fully understanding the coding world. I
 hired coders through rentacoder.com, and they have been very difficult
 with me.

 Several months ago I mentioned that my site looked different on my friends
 computer. They told me that it was her computer settings and this was the
 reason why and not to be concerned. Well time has gone on and come to find
 out about 1/2 of all my friend can not view my site right. I mentioned this
 concern again to the coders and they told me, that it was not an issue.

 I then found this response strange so I went online and found a site that
 my site showed that my site was distorted on other browsers about 1/2 of the
 time. So I then asked them to fix and they told me that they would not do
 it.

 They have done many unethical things from holding me up for money (via
 paypal) , they also asked for payment in full prior to the completion of the
 site (by 1 month), missed deadline, forgot to mention holidays, office
 closings, power outages, etc... something always is coming up so that they
 can not work. And if I want them to I work had send more money through
 paypal. Not to mention that they did not like that I was a women and always
 called Americans stupid, meaning me I am sure??

 So what I am saying is that I have moved on from them, yet I still have
 this browser issue and I need someone to help me.

 Please help I must have this work so that I can stay home with my disables
 son. They knew this and this is why I think that I would do anything that
 they would say; I know that it was not smart.

 Please email me at: kelleyfam3 at sbcglobal do net , if you can help.

 Thanks for any help! P.L.E.A.S.E.!!
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Re: [css-d] Website Browser issues and Coder??

2008-10-07 Thread David Laakso
EDWARD F KELLEY wrote:
 Hello, I am new to this ground and fully understanding the coding world.


Please provide me with a link to your site(send it to me off-list) and I 
will take a look at it and see if there is anything I can do.

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Re: [css-d] Website Browser issues and Coder??

2008-10-07 Thread Chike Loney
Dude, who cares? This has nothing to do with this list vent your grouses 
elsewhere



Sent from my BlackBerry® wireless device available from bmobile.

-Original Message-
From: Alexandru Dinulescu [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Date: Wed, 8 Oct 2008 01:24:06 
To: EDWARD F KELLEY[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: css-d@lists.css-discuss.org
Subject: Re: [css-d] Website Browser issues and Coder??


Hello.

There are many people who are scammers and poor coders on RentACoder and
people may be difficult with you HOWEVER

Lets take it point it by point.
1) Yes your site may look different on your friends computer, also it may be
because of her settings/ Operating System/Browser. Normally this should not
have happened BUT those coders may have done a poor job on your project.
2) Since you are the client, every issue you say can be an issue, thats why
it's RentAcoder, and for those are the messages. IF you do not agree on
something you can just enter in an arbistration procedure and everything
will be set by the Arbitrators (RAC employees)
3) It's your problem for paying them IN FRONT, RENT A CODER SPECIFICIALLY
SAYS THAT YOU MUST NOT PAY ANYONE PRIOR TO WORK COMPLETION OR MILESTONE
COMPLETION. If you did that then it's your fault and your fault only. And
since they got yoru money they have no interest in doing it.
4) You had the power to stop all the things they did to you via the RAC
arbitration process, which you should have done. Also it SAYS EXPLICITLY on
RENT A CODER NEVER TO SEND MONEY THROUGH PAYPAL. thats why there are safe
escroew systems in place. because things like this wont happen. This was
YOUR fault for not reading all the rules, and frankly because you sent money
through other means rather then a RAC escrow your account can be banned from
Rent a Coder. As for calling the americans stupid, most americans are not
fine attentive to detail and some are not very computer literate (especially
those in their 30s-40s) which is normal however.
5) Asking for help without PAYING for your help is bullshit, why people
should help you out when they have nothing to gain. just for helping sake.
Time is Money.

Proud Member and user of RentAcoder.com
RAC 
Profilehttp://www.rentacoder.com/RentACoder/DotNet/SoftwareCoders/ShowBioInfo.aspx?lngAuthorId=6995323


-- 
---
Alexandru Dinulescu
Web Developer
(X)HTML/CSS Specialist


On Wed, Oct 8, 2008 at 12:37 AM, EDWARD F KELLEY
[EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote:

 Hello, I am new to this ground and fully understanding the coding world. I
 hired coders through rentacoder.com, and they have been very difficult
 with me.

 Several months ago I mentioned that my site looked different on my friends
 computer. They told me that it was her computer settings and this was the
 reason why and not to be concerned. Well time has gone on and come to find
 out about 1/2 of all my friend can not view my site right. I mentioned this
 concern again to the coders and they told me, that it was not an issue.

 I then found this response strange so I went online and found a site that
 my site showed that my site was distorted on other browsers about 1/2 of the
 time. So I then asked them to fix and they told me that they would not do
 it.

 They have done many unethical things from holding me up for money (via
 paypal) , they also asked for payment in full prior to the completion of the
 site (by 1 month), missed deadline, forgot to mention holidays, office
 closings, power outages, etc... something always is coming up so that they
 can not work. And if I want them to I work had send more money through
 paypal. Not to mention that they did not like that I was a women and always
 called Americans stupid, meaning me I am sure??

 So what I am saying is that I have moved on from them, yet I still have
 this browser issue and I need someone to help me.

 Please help I must have this work so that I can stay home with my disables
 son. They knew this and this is why I think that I would do anything that
 they would say; I know that it was not smart.

 Please email me at: kelleyfam3 at sbcglobal do net , if you can help.

 Thanks for any help! P.L.E.A.S.E.!!
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Re: [css-d] Site check please - DAC *round 2*

2008-10-07 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
Peter Hyde-Smith wrote:

 http://www.fatpawdesign.com/DAC/DACproducts.html

 All: Thanks for the look-see and feed-back.

 Georg: I think I have the transparent borders issue fixed. Would you 
 please make another quick check?

Borders ok. IE6 need a little bit more help though.

1: There's the extra white-space spacing between list-items in the
right-hand navigation. To fix without negative side-effects, add a very
precise 'hasLayout' trigger to anchor...

* html .rightcolcontainer li a  {width: 92%;}


2: #viewcart doesn't shrinkwrap so the button ends up on left side in a
full-width #viewcart container, and the margin-doubling on floats bug
is also bugging IE6. To fix, add...

* html #viewcart {width: 150px; display: inline;}


That's it. Don't think I have missed any IE6 or IE7 bugs in there :-)

regards
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[css-d] x-tra padding and squished graphic

2008-10-07 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Hi!

In IE7, this page: http://www.blackfootchallenge.org/rebeccatest/test3.html
shows about an extra 10 px padding to the right of the Accomplishments
sidebar on the right of the page.

Also, the icon of the blue wave in the box where it says SUBSCRIBE Stay
Informed on the left is squished vertically.

Any ideas on how to fix these issues?

Thanks very much.

-Rebecca


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Re: [css-d] x-tra padding and squished graphic

2008-10-07 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 In IE7, this page:
 http://www.blackfootchallenge.org/rebeccatest/test3.html shows about
 an extra 10 px padding to the right of the Accomplishments sidebar
 on the right of the page.

Will look much better if you delete this...

#righttable {
padding-left: 0;
width: 190px;
}

...in the 'ie_test2.css' stylesheet.

Deleting the entire ie-only stylesheet will also work for that page,
but maybe you need some of it for other pages.

 Also, the icon of the blue wave in the box where it says SUBSCRIBE
 Stay Informed on the left is squished vertically.

You can add...

#onlinegiving img {
position: relative;
}

...to make the overflowing part of the image visible, which will make it
look alright in IE7.

Also a good idea to check validity...

http://validator.w3.org/check?uri=http://www.blackfootchallenge.org/rebeccatest/test3.html

...and fix the really serious errors - like the ID that is used more
than once.

regards
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Re: [css-d] Overflow and no

2008-10-07 Thread Bob Rosenberg
At 11:14 AM -0600 on 10/7/08, Jack Blankenships wrote about [css-d] 
Overflow and no:

Any ideas on how to have an element's overflow property apply to some
children but not to others?

For example,  I have a div that contains a table/grid that I want to
have set to overflow: auto on a specific height.  This way the results
stay within a specific set of dimensions and do not push the rest of
the layout into undesirable locations.  The problem is that I also
want to include some css tooltips for specific cells in this
table/grid, some of which are large enough that I would like to expand
them out of this standard boundary because they would be displayed
above the layout content and disappear when :hover is not activated.

Thanks,
Jack

You might try creating a Class definition with the overflow setting 
you want for the special cells and add the class= parm to those 
cells. This SHOULD override the setting inherited from the div.

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