Re: [css-d] IE6 peculiarity - need help to sort it
I agree with your mantra. :) I simply mentioned it for completeness' sake, in case others had the same issue (like I did) but didn't find the answer from reading the thread. Best, Kenny __ css-discuss [cs...@lists.css-discuss.org] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d List wiki/FAQ -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/ List policies -- http://css-discuss.org/policies.html Supported by evolt.org -- http://www.evolt.org/help_support_evolt/
[css-d] Padding Browser Issue
In IE7, the photos and the 2009-2010 Outdoor Programs have the same padding and the tops line up (as intended). But in Firefox, the Outdoor Programs box is about 9 pixels higher. I can't figure out why. Any ideas? http://wildernessawareness.org/index1.html Thank you Alix Estrada Web Studio 180 http://www.webstudio180.com www.webstudio180.com Web Design | Development | Usability __ css-discuss [cs...@lists.css-discuss.org] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d List wiki/FAQ -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/ List policies -- http://css-discuss.org/policies.html Supported by evolt.org -- http://www.evolt.org/help_support_evolt/
Re: [css-d] IE6 peculiarity - need help to sort it
Kenny, thanks for that tip - it is a neat solution. But seeing as the negative margin worked for me I'm going to leave well alone, guided by the motto If it isn't broken, don't fix it. Peter H. __ css-discuss [cs...@lists.css-discuss.org] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d List wiki/FAQ -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/ List policies -- http://css-discuss.org/policies.html Supported by evolt.org -- http://www.evolt.org/help_support_evolt/
Re: [css-d] Padding Browser Issue
taestrada wrote: In IE7, the photos and the 2009-2010 Outdoor Programs have the same padding and the tops line up (as intended). But in Firefox, the Outdoor Programs box is about 9 pixels higher. I can't figure out why. Any ideas? http://wildernessawareness.org/index1.html The top margin of the h2 collapses with the top margin of the #rightCol, forcing the #sidebar1 to extend upwards to encompass the h2's margin. Fix: set that h2 inside #sidebar1 to have a top-margin of 0, or add a border-top to #sidebar1. -- Els __ css-discuss [cs...@lists.css-discuss.org] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d List wiki/FAQ -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/ List policies -- http://css-discuss.org/policies.html Supported by evolt.org -- http://www.evolt.org/help_support_evolt/
Re: [css-d] Padding Browser Issue
On Apr 9, 2009, at 3:56 PM, taestrada wrote:
In IE7, the photos and the 2009-2010 Outdoor Programs have the same
padding
and the tops line up (as intended). But in Firefox, the Outdoor
Programs box
is about 9 pixels higher. I can't figure out why. Any ideas?
http://wildernessawareness.org/index1.html
This:
#sidebar1 h2 { /*stylesWAS1.css (line 121)*/
...
margin-top:-10px; /* !-- */
}
pulls the h2 upwards inside the margin box. That is the correct
behaviour (margin-collapsing). IE 6 7 are prevented from doing this
due to the hasLayout triggers on the parent box (#sidebar1).
Philippe
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Re: [css-d] Trying to emulate a LaTeX trick in CSS...
2009/4/9 Chris Lee c...@mg8.org
In LaTeX, there's a package called 'tracking' which provides a few
methods that will adjust letter spacing to fit a given chunk of text
content to a specified width.
I'd like to replicate the effect of:
\fittrack{66ex}{$chapter}
(where $chapter is likely to be a string that looks like CHAPTER 9
or CHAPTER 102)
Since the length of the string will vary, a fixed letter-spacing size
for all of the headings will result in a different width for
single-digit chapters versus double-digit chapters (or triple-digit
chapters).
I was hoping that maybe I could do something like:
div.tracked {
width: 66ex;
letter-spacing: auto;
}
but that doesn't seem to work in any browsers I've tried, since 'auto'
isn't a valid value for the letter-spacing property.
Any ideas? I guess I could just center the text and then work out a
letter-spacing value that would be close enough for most things, but
that feels like cheating to me. :)
Hi Chris,
Let me understand further...
If I got it, you want that all the chapter titles are in fixed width box
and, on second the length of the string, you want to adjust the letter
spacing in order to fit every chapter string title in the same box width.
Am I right?
By the way, the ex measure unit in CSS does not exist for width. You can
use, on second your needs: px, pt (I recommend to use only for print
styles), % or em.
See http://www.w3.org/TR/CSS21/visudet.html#propdef-width for further info.
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[css-d] Problem with a header image in Opera 9.64
Hi, I'm using Opera 9.64 on Windows 7 Beta. This website: http://maleconcept.com/test/ Has the header image centered right, but on opera it slides a bit to the left. Any ideas what bug is causing it or how to fix it? Regards, -- Krystian Szastok Affordable, Freelance Web Designer in Eastbourne, East Sussex: http://smewebsolutions.co.uk Mobile UK (Orange): 07528 036 337 Call for more information or email me. __ css-discuss [cs...@lists.css-discuss.org] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d List wiki/FAQ -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/ List policies -- http://css-discuss.org/policies.html Supported by evolt.org -- http://www.evolt.org/help_support_evolt/
Re: [css-d] Trying to emulate a LaTeX trick in CSS...
2009/4/9 Philippe Wittenbergh e...@l-c-n.com On Apr 9, 2009, at 5:19 PM, Cristian Palmas wrote: By the way, the ex measure unit in CSS does not exist for width. You can use, on second your needs: px, pt (I recommend to use only for print styles), % or em. See http://www.w3.org/TR/CSS21/visudet.html#propdef-width for further info. That is incorrect. It is certainly possible to use 'ex' for width. the quote URL says: Value:length | percentage | auto | inherit length brings us to http://www.w3.org/TR/CSS21/syndata.html#value-def-length There are two types of length units: relative and absolute. Relative length units specify a length relative to another length property. Style sheets that use relative units will more easily scale from one medium to another (e.g., from a computer display to a laser printer). Relative units are: * em: the 'font-size' of the relevant font * ex: the 'x-height' of the relevant font * px: pixels, relative to the viewing device Philippe --- Philippe Wittenbergh http://l-c-n.com/ It seems I should have got further in the search... There always is something new to learn about... Thanks Philippe. -- ~ Cristian Palmas ~ http://www.cristianpalmas.it __ css-discuss [cs...@lists.css-discuss.org] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d List wiki/FAQ -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/ List policies -- http://css-discuss.org/policies.html Supported by evolt.org -- http://www.evolt.org/help_support_evolt/
Re: [css-d] Problem with a header image in Opera 9.64
Krystian - Sunlust wrote: http://maleconcept.com/test/ Has the header image centered right, but on opera it slides a bit to the left. Something strange about that '.gif', but only Opera (all versions - at least back to Op7.20) seems to react on it. If I send the image through PhotoShop and saves it for web again - as '.gif' or 8bit '.png', it lines up as intended but with white areas at both sides. Those white areas are there in the original 2000px wide image. I would reduce the image-canvas in width so the white areas at both sides disappear - that's 1872px wide canvas with the image offset ever so slightly (1px) to the right, and save it for web as either '.gif' or '.png'. That will make the header-image line up exactly as intended in all browsers, and make it appear right on all window widths - tested on 3800px wide windows in Opera, Firefox and IE. regards Georg -- http://www.gunlaug.no __ css-discuss [cs...@lists.css-discuss.org] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d List wiki/FAQ -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/ List policies -- http://css-discuss.org/policies.html Supported by evolt.org -- http://www.evolt.org/help_support_evolt/
Re: [css-d] Problem with a header image in Opera 9.64
Krystian - Sunlust wrote: I'm using Opera 9.64 on Windows 7 Beta. This website: http://maleconcept.com/test/ Has the header image centered right, but on opera it slides a bit to the left. Any ideas what bug is causing it or how to fix it? I see the same effect in Opera 9.63 on Windows XP. Somehow Opera makes the image longer than it is. If you set the position to 'right top' instead of '50% 0', you'll see that the grey block on the right is double the width. This is not a problem with the image itself, as when I call it in the browser separately, it shows it correctly, 5 equal size grey blocks on either side of the image. I'd say it's a bug, but I don't know what causes it. I'd be interested to see what happens if that image would have two thin red borders on left and right side - would that red border be extended for 100 pixels, or is there something else happening? -- Els __ css-discuss [cs...@lists.css-discuss.org] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d List wiki/FAQ -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/ List policies -- http://css-discuss.org/policies.html Supported by evolt.org -- http://www.evolt.org/help_support_evolt/
Re: [css-d] Trying to emulate a LaTeX trick in CSS...
On Apr 9, 2009, at 5:19 PM, Cristian Palmas wrote: By the way, the ex measure unit in CSS does not exist for width. You can use, on second your needs: px, pt (I recommend to use only for print styles), % or em. See http://www.w3.org/TR/CSS21/visudet.html#propdef-width for further info. That is incorrect. It is certainly possible to use 'ex' for width. the quote URL says: Value:length | percentage | auto | inherit length brings us to http://www.w3.org/TR/CSS21/syndata.html#value-def-length There are two types of length units: relative and absolute. Relative length units specify a length relative to another length property. Style sheets that use relative units will more easily scale from one medium to another (e.g., from a computer display to a laser printer). Relative units are: * em: the 'font-size' of the relevant font * ex: the 'x-height' of the relevant font * px: pixels, relative to the viewing device Whether you'll get consistent results in browser is a different matter. On Windows, the ex unit is really broken in Safari 4b+/Chrome, well implemented in IE 8 (Vista and Win 7 only) and Gecko browsers. Opera always treated it as 1/2 em. On Mac, it is half-broken in Safari 4b+; it works fine in Gecko based browsers. As for the original question, as asked, that cannot be done in CSS – yet. Some kind of text-justify value would do, but atm not implemented in any browser. This maybe (future !): http://www.w3.org/TR/css3-text/#text-justify maybe some javascript trick might do. Philippe --- Philippe Wittenbergh http://l-c-n.com/ __ css-discuss [cs...@lists.css-discuss.org] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d List wiki/FAQ -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/ List policies -- http://css-discuss.org/policies.html Supported by evolt.org -- http://www.evolt.org/help_support_evolt/
Re: [css-d] Intermittent IE 7 problem
Certainly. Here's the way it should look: http://theredsetter.com/test/ie7mistake_good.jpg Here's what it does sometimes that it shouldn't: http://theredsetter.com/test/ie7mistake_bad.jpg Note that the good screenshot was taken after refreshing the bad, so you're looking at the same page in the same browser, with a refresh in between. ~Rebecca Krystian - Sunlust wrote: Couldn't reproduce IE 8 Windows7, Opera 9.64 Windows7, Firefox 3.0.7. Either they all produced the bug, or even I force refreshed few times, haven't procued the bug. Please upload a screenshot of how it should look. Regards, __ css-discuss [cs...@lists.css-discuss.org] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d List wiki/FAQ -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/ List policies -- http://css-discuss.org/policies.html Supported by evolt.org -- http://www.evolt.org/help_support_evolt/
Re: [css-d] Intermittent IE 7 problem
Rebecca Mazur wrote: If someone could just recognize and name the bug for me, that would be a help, as then I could go searching for solutions. http://www.kenyon.edu/x12305.xml The bug is clear enough, but finding a fix isn't. I found it easier to reproduce the problem in IE6 - multiple times, and that IE-version also shows clearly that one can fix the problem by cleaning up the source-code. I used HTML Tidy on a local copy. Once it becomes stable in IE6 it is also perfectly stable in IE7. However, trying to analyze what my Tidy actually did that fixed it isn't easy since I can't use the validator on your original. regards Georg -- http://www.gunlaug.no __ css-discuss [cs...@lists.css-discuss.org] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d List wiki/FAQ -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/ List policies -- http://css-discuss.org/policies.html Supported by evolt.org -- http://www.evolt.org/help_support_evolt/
[css-d] Float and Width
I have two questions. Both arise because I get warnings when validating css. Both are illustrated at http://www.drdelmath.com/playpen/test1_float.htm 1) It seems to me that I have declared a width for the classes left_objectives and right_objectives, but the validator warns me I need a width. If I move width:47%; into each of the individual styles the warning disappears. Should I duplicate width:47% or live with the warning? 2) I display many different size images and want them to be on the right edge of the view window. So I have a class called image_right whose style does not contain a width declaration because I use many different size image as shown on the test page. Should I live with the warning or is there a better way to position my images? Thanks Del __ css-discuss [cs...@lists.css-discuss.org] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d List wiki/FAQ -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/ List policies -- http://css-discuss.org/policies.html Supported by evolt.org -- http://www.evolt.org/help_support_evolt/
[css-d] 3 column expanding center column CSS
I've been doing a search through a lot of 3 column CSS layout examples, but I'm getting the feeling that what I want cannot be done. I need to setup a 3-column, fixed width layout that allows the center column to expand in width when necessary. For example, say I have a fixed width 3-column design wrapped in a 900px div. If I insert content in the middle column that is 1000px by itself, I need the center column to expand to accommodate the 1000px content width while expanding the 900px div as well. Is this even possible? -- Yazmin __ css-discuss [cs...@lists.css-discuss.org] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d List wiki/FAQ -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/ List policies -- http://css-discuss.org/policies.html Supported by evolt.org -- http://www.evolt.org/help_support_evolt/
Re: [css-d] Float and Width
--- On Thu, 4/9/09, Del Wegener d...@delweg.com wrote: ... I get warnings when validating css. http://www.drdelmath.com/playpen/test1_float.htm Which validator are you using? W3C's gave no errors when I tried it. - Bobby __ css-discuss [cs...@lists.css-discuss.org] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d List wiki/FAQ -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/ List policies -- http://css-discuss.org/policies.html Supported by evolt.org -- http://www.evolt.org/help_support_evolt/
Re: [css-d] 3 column expanding center column CSS
--- On Thu, 4/9/09, Yazmin Media ywick...@gmail.com wrote: I need to setup a 3-column, fixed width layout that allows the center column to expand in width when necessary. That's a bit of an oxymoron, but if you want the middle column to be no smaller than a certain width, you can use min-width. - Bobby __ css-discuss [cs...@lists.css-discuss.org] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d List wiki/FAQ -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/ List policies -- http://css-discuss.org/policies.html Supported by evolt.org -- http://www.evolt.org/help_support_evolt/
Re: [css-d] double borders. A different story in IE?
On 4/2/09 6:30 AM, Jon Wickström jon.wickst...@arrak.fi wrote: The look I'm after is a double border with the inner border the same color as the parent bg, and the outer the element bg. This I get in all sane browsers by specifying the parent bg as the border color and the border style double. This gives me a separated border with the element bg color. In the example I use red, not the parent backgroundborder color, to see the border clearly. The green border is just for your viewing pleasure. It is a div used for markup to center the menu. If anybody has a cleaner centering-solution, I'd bee happy to look at it. For a test-case see: http://www.ekebodagis.fi/ekebo/test.html IE is rendering your page in quirks mode because of the xml namespace declaration on top. Remove that and serve the page as content type text/html or use HTML 4 Strict if necessary. - divya __ css-discuss [cs...@lists.css-discuss.org] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d List wiki/FAQ -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/ List policies -- http://css-discuss.org/policies.html Supported by evolt.org -- http://www.evolt.org/help_support_evolt/
Re: [css-d] Padding Browser Issue
-Original Message- From: Els [mailto:el...@tiscali.nl] Sent: Thursday, April 09, 2009 12:19 AM To: taestrada; css-d@lists.css-discuss.org Subject: Re: [css-d] Padding Browser Issue taestrada wrote: In IE7, the photos and the 2009-2010 Outdoor Programs have the same padding and the tops line up (as intended). But in Firefox, the Outdoor Programs box is about 9 pixels higher. I can't figure out why. Any ideas? http://wildernessawareness.org/index1.html The top margin of the h2 collapses with the top margin of the #rightCol, forcing the #sidebar1 to extend upwards to encompass the h2's margin. Fix: set that h2 inside #sidebar1 to have a top-margin of 0, or add a border-top to #sidebar1. -- Els Thank you so much to you and Phillipe. I will try your fixes tonight. Alix __ css-discuss [cs...@lists.css-discuss.org] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d List wiki/FAQ -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/ List policies -- http://css-discuss.org/policies.html Supported by evolt.org -- http://www.evolt.org/help_support_evolt/
Re: [css-d] 3 column expanding center column CSS
-Original Message- From: css-d-boun...@lists.css-discuss.org [mailto:css-d- boun...@lists.css-discuss.org] On Behalf Of Yazmin Media Sent: 09 April 2009 14:48 To: css discuss Subject: [css-d] 3 column expanding center column CSS I've been doing a search through a lot of 3 column CSS layout examples, but I'm getting the feeling that what I want cannot be done. I need to setup a 3-column, fixed width layout that allows the center column to expand in width when necessary. For example, say I have a fixed width 3-column design wrapped in a 900px div. If I insert content in the middle column that is 1000px by itself, I need the center column to expand to accommodate the 1000px content width while expanding the 900px div as well. Is this even possible? First question one would ask. Why would you want a centre column so wide that it would break out of its wrapping div? However, I guess if you set the div to act like a table then I guess it would do what you want or have I missed the point? Best Ian IY e-Solutions __ css-discuss [cs...@lists.css-discuss.org] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d List wiki/FAQ -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/ List policies -- http://css-discuss.org/policies.html Supported by evolt.org -- http://www.evolt.org/help_support_evolt/
Re: [css-d] Float and Width
2009/4/9 Del Wegener d...@delweg.com: I have two questions. Both arise because I get warnings when validating css. There was a requirement that any floated element have a specified width in CSS 2. This requirement was dropped in CSS 2.1 and the warning is due to be removed from the next release of the W3C CSS validator. You can safely ignore it (unless dealing with exceptionally old browsers). -- David Dorward http://dorward.me.ukhttp://blog.dorward.me.uk __ css-discuss [cs...@lists.css-discuss.org] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d List wiki/FAQ -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/ List policies -- http://css-discuss.org/policies.html Supported by evolt.org -- http://www.evolt.org/help_support_evolt/
Re: [css-d] Float and Width
From: css-d-boun...@lists.css-discuss.org [mailto:css-d- boun...@lists.css-discuss.org] On Behalf Of Del Wegener Sent: 09 April 2009 14:28 To: css Subject: [css-d] Float and Width I have two questions. Both arise because I get warnings when validating css. Both are illustrated at http://www.drdelmath.com/playpen/test1_float.htm 1) It seems to me that I have declared a width for the classes left_objectives and right_objectives, but the validator warns me I need a width. Maybe I am being thick here, but I cannot see the issue. I have checked the CSS with the validator and it passes. However, may I suggest that you define the body background colour. It came up pink on my Opera which has pink specified as background. Cheers Ian IY e-Solutions __ css-discuss [cs...@lists.css-discuss.org] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d List wiki/FAQ -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/ List policies -- http://css-discuss.org/policies.html Supported by evolt.org -- http://www.evolt.org/help_support_evolt/
Re: [css-d] Float and Width
Del Wegener wrote: I have two questions. Both arise because I get warnings when validating css. Both are illustrated at http://www.drdelmath.com/playpen/test1_float.htm Should I live with the warning or is there a better way to position my images? Del The answer to your questions/problems in my opinion has nothing to do with CSS or the w3c validation service. I think you have a very fundamental and basic design problem that needs to be resolved. Namely positioning content on the page such that users of average intelligence will understand what you are attempting to convey when they land on the page. And set the line-measure so that it does not extend from San Francisco to Manhattan. This is one of many ways you might do it. http://chelseacreekstudio.com/ca/cssd/test-121.html __ css-discuss [cs...@lists.css-discuss.org] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d List wiki/FAQ -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/ List policies -- http://css-discuss.org/policies.html Supported by evolt.org -- http://www.evolt.org/help_support_evolt/
Re: [css-d] Intermittent IE 7 problem
I did a copy-and-paste validation and only found a couple of unencoded two missing alts, and an xmlns attribute that I need to get rid of--I can't imagine those being the trouble. They're not things I want in there, and I should find and fix them regardless, but they're not the sort of thing that I imagine even IE would choke on. Have you had experience with browsers breaking on those particular validation errors? I'm curious now, because I may not be able to fix them. We're on a CMS, and it does bizarre things to code; sometimes I can wrestle it into submission, sometimes not. ~Rebecca Gunlaug Sørtun wrote: Rebecca Mazur wrote: If someone could just recognize and name the bug for me, that would be a help, as then I could go searching for solutions. http://www.kenyon.edu/x12305.xml The bug is clear enough, but finding a fix isn't. I found it easier to reproduce the problem in IE6 - multiple times, and that IE-version also shows clearly that one can fix the problem by cleaning up the source-code. I used HTML Tidy on a local copy. Once it becomes stable in IE6 it is also perfectly stable in IE7. However, trying to analyze what my Tidy actually did that fixed it isn't easy since I can't use the validator on your original. regards Georg __ css-discuss [cs...@lists.css-discuss.org] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d List wiki/FAQ -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/ List policies -- http://css-discuss.org/policies.html Supported by evolt.org -- http://www.evolt.org/help_support_evolt/
Re: [css-d] Intermittent IE 7 problem
Rebecca Mazur wrote: Have you had experience with browsers breaking on those particular validation errors? No. Old IE will eat, ignore or correct such minor errors, same as other browsers. I have seen IE do many strange things when served compacted source-code though, and your markup is pretty compact. Can't say for sure, but my (original) Tidy is set to unpack and line up markup in ways I know old IE/win is happy with, and that may have made all the difference. regards Georg -- http://www.gunlaug.no __ css-discuss [cs...@lists.css-discuss.org] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d List wiki/FAQ -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/ List policies -- http://css-discuss.org/policies.html Supported by evolt.org -- http://www.evolt.org/help_support_evolt/
Re: [css-d] Intermittent IE 7 problem
Gunlaug Sørtun wrote: Rebecca Mazur wrote: Have you had experience with browsers breaking on those particular validation errors? No. Old IE will eat, ignore or correct such minor errors, same as other browsers. I have seen IE do many strange things when served compacted source-code though, and your markup is pretty compact. Can't say for sure, but my (original) Tidy is set to unpack and line up markup in ways I know old IE/win is happy with, and that may have made all the difference. regards Georg Rebecca, When I ran your file through Tidy http://infohound.net/tidy/ I set it to indent-- no, indent space-- 0, wrap-- 900. This unpacks it and pulls out zillions of little deeply nested issues. ~d __ css-discuss [cs...@lists.css-discuss.org] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d List wiki/FAQ -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/ List policies -- http://css-discuss.org/policies.html Supported by evolt.org -- http://www.evolt.org/help_support_evolt/
[css-d] Wrap text in li
Hi guys, can anuyone tell me how to wrap text in a list item please? Thnx Sent from my BlackBerry® wireless device available from bmobile. __ css-discuss [cs...@lists.css-discuss.org] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d List wiki/FAQ -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/ List policies -- http://css-discuss.org/policies.html Supported by evolt.org -- http://www.evolt.org/help_support_evolt/
Re: [css-d] Wrap text in li
--- On Thu, 4/9/09, Chike Loney chikelo...@gmail.com wrote: Hi guys, can anuyone tell me how to wrap text in a list item please? Sure: litext/li :-) Of course, you're /probably/ not asking for that, but it would be useful to have a BIT more detail. Do you mean 'dynamically'? If so, you want to be looking at javascript for that, not CSS. Do you mean 'wrap' as in what happens when text won't fit within the width of one line? That should happen automatically, but you can reduce the width of the parent ul/ol with the CSS width property. I can't think what else you might mean. - Bobby __ css-discuss [cs...@lists.css-discuss.org] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d List wiki/FAQ -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/ List policies -- http://css-discuss.org/policies.html Supported by evolt.org -- http://www.evolt.org/help_support_evolt/
Re: [css-d] Wrap text in li
Lol sry I ddint use a parent ul but even though the text in the li is not wrapping, meaning I want it to display within a certain area so if ther is more than one line of text it wud automatically skip to a next line and align itself... Sent from my BlackBerry® wireless device available from bmobile. -Original Message- From: Bobby Jack bobbykj...@yahoo.co.uk Date: Thu, 9 Apr 2009 18:59:59 To: CSS-Dcss-d@lists.css-discuss.org Subject: Re: [css-d] Wrap text in li --- On Thu, 4/9/09, Chike Loney chikelo...@gmail.com wrote: Hi guys, can anuyone tell me how to wrap text in a list item please? Sure: litext/li :-) Of course, you're /probably/ not asking for that, but it would be useful to have a BIT more detail. Do you mean 'dynamically'? If so, you want to be looking at javascript for that, not CSS. Do you mean 'wrap' as in what happens when text won't fit within the width of one line? That should happen automatically, but you can reduce the width of the parent ul/ol with the CSS width property. I can't think what else you might mean. - Bobby __ css-discuss [cs...@lists.css-discuss.org] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d List wiki/FAQ -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/ List policies -- http://css-discuss.org/policies.html Supported by evolt.org -- http://www.evolt.org/help_support_evolt/ __ css-discuss [cs...@lists.css-discuss.org] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d List wiki/FAQ -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/ List policies -- http://css-discuss.org/policies.html Supported by evolt.org -- http://www.evolt.org/help_support_evolt/
Re: [css-d] Wrap text in li
It would be great if you have a url and then present what is the current behavior (which browser/os) and what is the expected behavior. On Thu, Apr 9, 2009 at 8:04 AM, Chike Loney chikelo...@gmail.com wrote: Lol sry I ddint use a parent ul but even though the text in the li is not wrapping, meaning I want it to display within a certain area so if ther is more than one line of text it wud automatically skip to a next line and align itself... Sent from my BlackBerry® wireless device available from bmobile. -Original Message- From: Bobby Jack bobbykj...@yahoo.co.uk Date: Thu, 9 Apr 2009 18:59:59 To: CSS-Dcss-d@lists.css-discuss.org Subject: Re: [css-d] Wrap text in li --- On Thu, 4/9/09, Chike Loney chikelo...@gmail.com wrote: Hi guys, can anuyone tell me how to wrap text in a list item please? Sure: litext/li :-) Of course, you're /probably/ not asking for that, but it would be useful to have a BIT more detail. Do you mean 'dynamically'? If so, you want to be looking at javascript for that, not CSS. Do you mean 'wrap' as in what happens when text won't fit within the width of one line? That should happen automatically, but you can reduce the width of the parent ul/ol with the CSS width property. I can't think what else you might mean. - Bobby __ css-discuss [cs...@lists.css-discuss.org] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d List wiki/FAQ -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/ List policies -- http://css-discuss.org/policies.html Supported by evolt.org -- http://www.evolt.org/help_support_evolt/ __ css-discuss [cs...@lists.css-discuss.org] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d List wiki/FAQ -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/ List policies -- http://css-discuss.org/policies.html Supported by evolt.org -- http://www.evolt.org/help_support_evolt/ __ css-discuss [cs...@lists.css-discuss.org] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d List wiki/FAQ -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/ List policies -- http://css-discuss.org/policies.html Supported by evolt.org -- http://www.evolt.org/help_support_evolt/
[css-d] Javascript code - firefox vs explorer and spry menu bars
Hey - I have this code %...@language=JAVASCRIPT CODEPAGE=65001% that is appearing on the top of my site when opened in firefox - but not explorer. Here is my site in progress: www.domecleaning.com/devhttp://www.domecleaning.com/dev It was suggested to remove the tag from my code, but when I do that, the background on my spry menu bar on the drop down changes from a box around the text, to being a jagged end - ending at where the text ends. Does anyone know how to hide this code so that it won't appear in firefox? - Tarah __ css-discuss [cs...@lists.css-discuss.org] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d List wiki/FAQ -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/ List policies -- http://css-discuss.org/policies.html Supported by evolt.org -- http://www.evolt.org/help_support_evolt/
Re: [css-d] Wrap text in li
I ddint use a parent ul but even though the text in the li is not
wrapping, meaning I want it to
display within a certain area so if ther is more than one line of text it wud
automatically skip to
a next line and align itself...
Huh? If you have an li it needs to be in a ul, ol, or menu (and you
shouldn't really use menu. It's deprecated). That's the rules. That could be
one source of your problem.
But if you want to limit it to a particular width, that's what the width
property is for.
Something like:
li {
width: 25%;
}
Or even better
ul (or whatever list container you're using) {
width: 25%;
}
---Tim
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Re: [css-d] Intermittent IE 7 problem
Rebecca Mazur wrote:
The big difference is that our stuff shouldn't ride all the way to the
bottom of the screen like that. Bottom of footer and bottom of
content should line up (with content just being content; no big gaps),
unless footer + subnavigation content, in which case the footer
should bump down far enough to not overlap the subnav. It's hard to
explain, really it is :( I'm thinking that there must not be a
solution to this one, which is really a problem, since it's not like
we can ditch the design now!
Thanks for fiddling with it, though!
~Rebecca
Please see reply below...
Not sure I understand what all the issues and requirements for
solution are in the first place, other than I get the footer
ride-up/crossover on this page, too-- in IE 6/7:
http://www.kenyon.edu/x12305.xml
This seems to hold in XP IE 6/7 on this end, but whether it meets all
your requirements and will hold on any other machine than mine is
questionable...
http://chelseacreekstudio.com/ca/cssd/yon.htm
css
http://chelseacreekstudio.com/ca/cssd/yon_files/kenyon00.css
~d
Then delete this to close the gap:
#masthead
{
float:left;
/*padding-bottom:240px; delete*/
width:284px;
padding-right:15px;
}
And seek a scripting solution?
PS Please bottom post. Thanks.
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Re: [css-d] double borders. A different story in IE?
On Thu, 09 Apr 2009 07:16:29 -0700 Came this utterance formulated by Divya Manian to my mailbox: On 4/2/09 6:30 AM, Jon Wickström jon.wickst...@arrak.fi wrote: The look I'm after is a double border with the inner border the same color as the parent bg, and the outer the element bg. This I get in all sane browsers by specifying the parent bg as the border color and the border styledouble. This gives me a separated border with the element bg color. In the example I use red, not the parent backgroundborder color, to see the border clearly. The green border is just for your viewing pleasure. It is a div used for markup to center the menu. If anybody has a cleaner centering-solution, I'd bee happy to look at it. For a test-case see: http://www.ekebodagis.fi/ekebo/test.html IE is rendering your page in quirks mode because of the xml namespace declaration on top. Remove that and serve the page as content type text/html or use HTML 4 Strict if necessary. Divya - I disagree. IE7 handles the XML declaration fine in standards mode[1]. Although i see it on line 8 when it should always be on line 1. IMHO IE less than IE7 should always be in quirks mode and the XML declaration will achieve this. Jon - I am on linux here at home so no IE running. Will look at it at work later today but you may already have an answer by then. [1] http://blogs.msdn.com/ie/archive/2005/09/15/467901.aspx -- Michael All shall be well, and all shall be well, and all manner of things shall be well - Julian of Norwich 1342 - 1416 __ css-discuss [cs...@lists.css-discuss.org] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d List wiki/FAQ -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/ List policies -- http://css-discuss.org/policies.html Supported by evolt.org -- http://www.evolt.org/help_support_evolt/
Re: [css-d] Javascript code - firefox vs explorer and spry menu bars
From: Tarah - Dome Cleaning, Inc. ta...@domecleaning.com Hey - I have this code %...@language=JAVASCRIPT CODEPAGE=65001% that is appearing on the top of my site when opened in firefox - but not explorer. The code is unnecessary and should be removed. It was suggested to remove the tag from my code, but when I do that, the background on my spry menu bar on the drop down changes from a box around the text, to being a jagged end - ending at where the text ends. Does anyone know how to hide this code so that it won't appear in firefox? Remove the Code, then get customer support from Adobe to fix your menu. -- Al Sparber - PVII http://www.projectseven.com Dreamweaver Menus | Galleries | Widgets http://www.projectseven.com/go/apm An Accessible Elegant Accordion __ css-discuss [cs...@lists.css-discuss.org] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d List wiki/FAQ -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/ List policies -- http://css-discuss.org/policies.html Supported by evolt.org -- http://www.evolt.org/help_support_evolt/
Re: [css-d] Wrap text in li
Chike Loney wrote: I ddint use a parent ul An li element without a parent ul or ol is a syntax error. All bets are off, CSS-wise and otherwise, then. but even though the text in the li is not wrapping, You're not explaining what text is not wrapping in which sense. You need to provide a URL in order to get help with your problem. meaning I want it to display within a certain area so if ther is more than one line of text it wud automatically skip to a next line and align itself... Are you trying to say that you would like to set a width on the li element? -- Yucca, http://www.cs.tut.fi/~jkorpela/ __ css-discuss [cs...@lists.css-discuss.org] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d List wiki/FAQ -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/ List policies -- http://css-discuss.org/policies.html Supported by evolt.org -- http://www.evolt.org/help_support_evolt/
Re: [css-d] Javascript code - firefox vs explorer and spry menu bars
Tarah - Dome Cleaning, Inc. wrote: Hey - I have this code %...@language=JAVASCRIPT CODEPAGE=65001% that is appearing on the top of my site when opened in firefox - but not explorer. Here is my site in progress: www.domecleaning.com/devhttp://www.domecleaning.com/dev It was suggested to remove the tag from my code, but when I do that, the background on my spry menu bar on the drop down changes from a box around the text, to being a jagged end - ending at where the text ends. Does anyone know how to hide this code so that it won't appear in firefox? A wild guess, and it's also OT for this list, but what happens if you rename index.html to index.asp? -- Els __ css-discuss [cs...@lists.css-discuss.org] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d List wiki/FAQ -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/ List policies -- http://css-discuss.org/policies.html Supported by evolt.org -- http://www.evolt.org/help_support_evolt/
Re: [css-d] double borders. A different story in IE?
On Thu, 02 Apr 2009 16:30:07 +0300 Came this utterance formulated by Jon Wickström to my mailbox: Hi, I'm trying to style a horizontal menu with double borders on the active LI menu item. There is some use of nested floating, as I want to use blocks for the LI to get them an even width. IE (7, haven't even tried 6) just gets it plain wrong (from my point of view). The double border seems to work differently in IE compared to all other browsers I've tried (FF, Opera, Chrome). IE renders the middle line in a double border transparent. All other browsers use the elements bg-color. IE also shows som strange stuff with the alignment. The borders overlap the parent elements borders. Some kind of collapsing borders in IE?!?! Is this really the case or is my CSS/HTML just broken in IE? One huch I have is that IE is using it's own box model, not the standard compliant? I vaguely remember something about IE not including the borders inside the box. The look I'm after is a double border with the inner border the same color as the parent bg, and the outer the element bg. This I get in all sane browsers by specifying the parent bg as the border color and the border style double. This gives me a separated border with the element bg color. In the example I use red, not the parent backgroundborder color, to see the border clearly. The green border is just for your viewing pleasure. It is a div used for markup to center the menu. If anybody has a cleaner centering-solution, I'd bee happy to look at it. For a test-case see: http://www.ekebodagis.fi/ekebo/test.html Fix the errors in your xhtml first. http://validator.w3.org/check?uri=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.ekebodagis.fi%2Fekebo%2Ftest.htmlcharset=%28detect+automatically%29doctype=Inlinegroup=0 -- Michael All shall be well, and all shall be well, and all manner of things shall be well - Julian of Norwich 1342 - 1416 __ css-discuss [cs...@lists.css-discuss.org] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d List wiki/FAQ -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/ List policies -- http://css-discuss.org/policies.html Supported by evolt.org -- http://www.evolt.org/help_support_evolt/
Re: [css-d] Wrap text in li
Yes, I would like to set a width within the li item itself Sent from my BlackBerry® wireless device available from bmobile. -Original Message- From: Jukka K. Korpela jkorp...@cs.tut.fi Date: Thu, 9 Apr 2009 22:25:56 To: CSS-Dcss-d@lists.css-discuss.org Subject: Re: [css-d] Wrap text in li Chike Loney wrote: I ddint use a parent ul An li element without a parent ul or ol is a syntax error. All bets are off, CSS-wise and otherwise, then. but even though the text in the li is not wrapping, You're not explaining what text is not wrapping in which sense. You need to provide a URL in order to get help with your problem. meaning I want it to display within a certain area so if ther is more than one line of text it wud automatically skip to a next line and align itself... Are you trying to say that you would like to set a width on the li element? -- Yucca, http://www.cs.tut.fi/~jkorpela/ __ css-discuss [cs...@lists.css-discuss.org] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d List wiki/FAQ -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/ List policies -- http://css-discuss.org/policies.html Supported by evolt.org -- http://www.evolt.org/help_support_evolt/ __ css-discuss [cs...@lists.css-discuss.org] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d List wiki/FAQ -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/ List policies -- http://css-discuss.org/policies.html Supported by evolt.org -- http://www.evolt.org/help_support_evolt/
[css-d] :first-word?
I've got a newsletter that includes interviews in a Q and A format. Usually, there's a question with a Q: in front of it, and then an answer with an A:. But I just discovered an interview with two people that goes: Q: Neal: Kirsten: My stylesheet currently uses :first-letter to style the Q and A. But that just styles the N and K on Neal and Kirsten, and what I'd really like to do is style the whole word. A first-word pseudo element would work perfectly in all my cases, but it appears that there is no :first-word pseudo element. Is there some trick I can use as a substitute? ---Tim Climis Computer Coordinator International Services __ css-discuss [cs...@lists.css-discuss.org] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d List wiki/FAQ -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/ List policies -- http://css-discuss.org/policies.html Supported by evolt.org -- http://www.evolt.org/help_support_evolt/
[css-d] css list test message
20090409 1636 GMT-6 Im just sending this to the list to see if any of my posts show up. I have sent 8 in the past month and none have showed (that I can see) on the list. Wade -- Registered Linux User: #480675 Linux since June 2005 __ css-discuss [cs...@lists.css-discuss.org] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d List wiki/FAQ -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/ List policies -- http://css-discuss.org/policies.html Supported by evolt.org -- http://www.evolt.org/help_support_evolt/
Re: [css-d] :first-word?
Climis, Tim wrote: I've got a newsletter that includes interviews in a Q and A format. Usually, there's a question with a Q: in front of it, and then an answer with an A:. But I just discovered an interview with two people that goes: Q: Neal: Kirsten: My stylesheet currently uses :first-letter to style the Q and A. But that just styles the N and K on Neal and Kirsten, and what I'd really like to do is style the whole word. A first-word pseudo element would work perfectly in all my cases, but it appears that there is no :first-word pseudo element. Is there some trick I can use as a substitute? This depends on the context. Do you have any links to a sample or maybe even a hint as to the HTML used for this example? -- !-- ! Bill Brown macnim...@gmail.com ! Web Developologist, WebDevelopedia.com -- __ css-discuss [cs...@lists.css-discuss.org] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d List wiki/FAQ -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/ List policies -- http://css-discuss.org/policies.html Supported by evolt.org -- http://www.evolt.org/help_support_evolt/
Re: [css-d] :first-word?
Climis, Tim wrote:
I've got a newsletter that includes interviews in a Q and A format.
Usually, there's a question with a Q: in front of it, and then an answer
with an A:. But I just discovered an interview with two people that goes:
Q: Neal: Kirsten:
My stylesheet currently uses :first-letter to style the Q and A. But that
just styles the N and K on Neal and Kirsten, and what I'd really like to do
is style the whole word.
A first-word pseudo element would work perfectly in all my cases, but it
appears that there is no :first-word pseudo element. Is there some trick I
can use as a substitute?
---Tim Climis
Not with CSS at the moment.
An html substitute might be:
bname/b
css might read:
b {color:red; text-transform: uppercase;font-weight:normal;}
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Re: [css-d] Intermittent IE 7 problem
Rebecca Mazur wrote: Hi David, I think I ran the same scan that you did, but I'm not sure, since the only issues I got were some unescaped 's, a couple of missing alts, and those blasted xmlns attributes that I can't seem to get rid of (we're CMS based). Just wanted to check that that's all you saw. ~Rebecca Oh, I guess that's about it... Not sure I understand what all the issues and requirements for solution are in the first place, other than I get the footer ride-up/crossover on this page, too-- in IE 6/7: http://www.kenyon.edu/x12305.xml This seems to hold in XP IE 6/7 on this end, but whether it meets all your requirements and will hold on any other machine than mine is questionable... http://chelseacreekstudio.com/ca/cssd/yon.htm css http://chelseacreekstudio.com/ca/cssd/yon_files/kenyon00.css ~d __ css-discuss [cs...@lists.css-discuss.org] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d List wiki/FAQ -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/ List policies -- http://css-discuss.org/policies.html Supported by evolt.org -- http://www.evolt.org/help_support_evolt/
[css-d] AP's and IE
You've probably heard this a million times, but I'm a newbie to CSS, so bear with me. I've done a lot of print and I thought I should finally do some web design. I put together a website using Dreamweaver and CSS on a Mac. I'm pretty happy with it. But in spite of my brave words that my work is cross-browser compliant, it isn't. It works beautifully in Fireworks, Netscape, Safari, Opera but in IE 6 it's a mess. I tried redoing it with floats using that negative margin thing that Eric does, but it just doesn't seem to work for me. Is there a fix for making IE impose my absolute positioned divs? The URL is: http://www.helixdesign.ca AK __ css-discuss [cs...@lists.css-discuss.org] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d List wiki/FAQ -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/ List policies -- http://css-discuss.org/policies.html Supported by evolt.org -- http://www.evolt.org/help_support_evolt/
Re: [css-d] Wrap text in li
Well, I think that, if you want help, you should help us a little more. Please set an url or explain it more clearly. Does within mean that you want to use a style attribute embeded in a specific li element? In what circumstances? What's your goal? Anyway, it's probably better to set an example and send the url... Roberto Chike Loney wrote: Yes, I would like to set a width within the li item itself __ css-discuss [cs...@lists.css-discuss.org] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d List wiki/FAQ -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/ List policies -- http://css-discuss.org/policies.html Supported by evolt.org -- http://www.evolt.org/help_support_evolt/
Re: [css-d] AP's and IE
Alan King wrote: Is there a fix for making IE impose my absolute positioned divs? http://www.helixdesign.ca Yes. IE6' disappearing A:P element next to a float bug can be problematic, and not easy to fix in the stylesheet other than by abandoning either the A:P or the float styling. Separate absolute elements from floats in the markup, and IE6 will render as intended. How you separate them doesn't really matter, and I've just added a number of br in there... http://www.gunlaug.no/tos/alien/ak/test_09_0410.html ...as a demo for how it works. - Such a degree of absolute positioning of text-carrying elements makes your design pretty fragile when exposed to font resizing in browsers though... http://www.gunlaug.no/tos/alien/ak/fx-sc.png ...so it would be better to ditch most absolute positioning and let the entire layout adjust to the environment and various end-user options. A better organized source-code with header and footer and two floating columns with fixed width and auto-height, would be a good basis, and there's no need to pull floats around with negative margins for a design like yours - floating them left or right will do. Proper use of background-color in addition to background-image on body. will also help keep all text visible. Remember also that headlines as background-images don't always make it through on their own. regards Georg -- http://www.gunlaug.no __ css-discuss [cs...@lists.css-discuss.org] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d List wiki/FAQ -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/ List policies -- http://css-discuss.org/policies.html Supported by evolt.org -- http://www.evolt.org/help_support_evolt/
[css-d] OT - Flash player works in FF3, but not in IE7
Greetings, I know this is off-topic and I apologize, but I need to find out where to go for help. I have a xspf audio player embedded in an object tag and it appears and works great in FF3, but the player does not appear in IE7. I get the same kind of place holder you get when a graphic cannot be found. A sort of box with a little icon in the upper left corner. One other thing, my web host won't server xspf pages,so the xspf file has been renamed to a .txt file and the object code has been so modified. If any one knows anything about these kind of things or knows where to go for help I would be greatly appreciative. http://www.adriennesgardenworks.com/radio.php with the link to listen. The object code is in a pop up window called by the listen link on radio.php. Here is the object code in case it helps: !DOCTYPE html PUBLIC -//W3C//DTD XHTML 1.0 Strict//EN http://www.w3.org/TR/xhtml1/DTD/xhtml1-strict.dtd; html xmlns=http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml; xml:lang=en lang=en head meta http-equiv=Content-Type content=text/xhtml; charset=ISO-8859-1 / meta name=description content=Adrienne's Garden Works / meta name=keywords content=Adrienne's Garden Works/ titleGarden Works Audio Player - Listen to Archived Radio Shows/title !...@import directive Link to external css style sheet(s)-- style type=text/css @import url(../css/gardenworks_main.css); @import url(../css/gardenworks_popup.css); /style /head body div class=close_button ?php include (../php/includes_php/close_script_inc.php); ? /div div p class=textPlease select a program to listen to by double clicking it below./p /div div class=player object type=application/x-shockwave-flash width=400 height=170 data=xspf_player.swf?playlist_url=http://www.adriennesgardenworks.com/radio_archive/lgg_2009.txtautoload=1; param name=movie value=xspf_player.swf?playlist_url=http://www.adriennesgardenworks.com/radio_archive/lgg_2009.txtautoload=1; / /object /div /body /html Thanks and sorry for the OT post. -- Scott Brasted sc...@brastedhouse.com __ css-discuss [cs...@lists.css-discuss.org] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d List wiki/FAQ -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/ List policies -- http://css-discuss.org/policies.html Supported by evolt.org -- http://www.evolt.org/help_support_evolt/
