[css-d] negative margin in safari and Opera
Hello, I am looking for information regarding how opera and safari handle negative margins. I am working on a site - http://www.lauramcguire.com/ which I used a negative margin to place the navigation at the top right of the web page. It works fine in I.E. and Firefox but does not show up in safari and opera. Any assistance is greatly appreciated. Thanks, Jennifer __ css-discuss [cs...@lists.css-discuss.org] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d List wiki/FAQ -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/ List policies -- http://css-discuss.org/policies.html Supported by evolt.org -- http://www.evolt.org/help_support_evolt/
Re: [css-d] negative margin in safari and Opera
That fixed it, I don't fully understand why, but I really appreciate the
solution! I did notice that only Safari does not show the on:hover pink
underline in the top nav only. It works on the bottom navigation, so I am
guessing it still has something to do with the positioning.
Thanks again,
Jennifer
From: Gunlaug Sørtun gunla...@c2i.net
To: JGardner jgsgard...@yahoo.com
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Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2009 4:21:28 PM
Subject: Re: [css-d] negative margin in safari and Opera
JGardner wrote:
I am looking for information regarding how opera and safari handle
negative margins.
Same as Gecko (Firefox etc.) and IE.
I am working on a site - http://www.lauramcguire.com/ which I used a
negative margin to place the navigation at the top right of the web
page.
It works fine in I.E. and Firefox but does not show up in safari and
opera. Any assistance is greatly appreciated.
Check where the element is in Opera and Safari _without_ the negative
margin. What you'll see is the difference in how Opera and Safari on on
side and Firefox and IE on the other side _line up floats_ that comes
after non-floating elements.
To get the same line-up in all browsers, make the nave-styling even out
those float-handling differences. In your case this will work...
#nav {
float:right;
position:relative;
margin-top:-35px;
width: 100%;
text-align: right;
}
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[css-d] IE position problem
Hello, I posted this last week but did not receive any replies. I have since tried to work on it some more but I have not found the solution, so I thought I would try again. I am trying to convert this site from tables to a CSS layout and am having problems with the positioning of the navigation on the left and the search box on the top right. It looks correct in Firefox but not IE 6 or IE 7. You can see it here - http://www.misterinkjet.com/hp-inkjet-product-css.htm Thanks, Jennifer JGardner Designs Creating your e-Presence www.JGardnerDesigns.com __ css-discuss [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d List wiki/FAQ -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/ List policies -- http://css-discuss.org/policies.html Supported by evolt.org -- http://www.evolt.org/help_support_evolt/
Re: [css-d] IE position problem
Thank you!
I do have a question though. I thought by setting the padding and margin to 0
in the body that it removed all margins through out the document. I am
surmising from the fix you sent below that is not true. Can someone clear this
up for me?
Thank you,
Jennifer
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Hi,
for the left search box you need to reset the top margin of the form (IE has
different defaults than FF):
#topNavContainer form { margin-top:0; }
(you can also drop the non-semantic br after the preceding span, form is
a block level element)
for the left navigation:
on my screen i see problem both in IE and FF. imo you need to drop the
negative left margin (-29px).
hope this helps,
Serge Krul
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[css-d] firefox ie problem
Hello, I am working on converting a site from a table layout to a css layout. I am having a problem with the navigation on the left and the search box at the top right. In Firefox it looks correct, in IE 6 7 the menu on the left is cut off and the search box is to far down. I used a negative margin on the navigation on the left so I am sure that is causing the problem, but if I don't the menu items are way to the right in Firefox. TIA for any help you might have to send my way, Jennifer JGardner Designs Creating your e-Presence www.JGardnerDesigns.com __ css-discuss [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d List wiki/FAQ -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/ List policies -- http://css-discuss.org/policies.html Supported by evolt.org -- http://www.evolt.org/help_support_evolt/
Re: [css-d] menu test - thank you!
Wow, I can't believe you went to all of this trouble, thank you!! Thank you for the links - I read the information (understood about 1/2 but will read again) I have everything up and working - thanks to this group and Georg. Thank you again, Jennifer PS I hope to some day be knowledgeable enough to pay forward the help I have received. Of course: my first example worked just fine, since I had placed all corrections in a style-block _after_ the [if lt IE 7] style-block. It is a matter of order and specificity - that I overlooked. I can't believe I missed this! Again: http://www.gunlaug.no/tos/alien/jg-2/test_07_0926.html 1: All new styles moved to the stylesheet where they have replaced the old ones... http://www.gunlaug.no/tos/alien/jg-2/nav.css ...and my styles are easy to see since I don't use indentations - a personal preference thing. 2: I've deleted all unnecessary and disturbing styles in the [if lt IE 7] style-block in the page-head, so IE6 gets its corrections but will otherwise follow what's in the stylesheet. It is *important* that you transfer my corrections to your own page, or else it will fail in IE6 again. 3: I unexpectedly found that my contain floats method misfired in one browser - disturbing the dropdown, so I've changed that to the easyclearing[1] method - and tested again. 4: The use of 'font-size: small' on #menuh triggers IE/win's font resizing bug[2], so I changed that to 'font-size: 82%'. Choose another value if you like, but avoid the use of keywords if you want bug-free and somewhat identical font size across browser-land. regards Georg [1]http://www.positioniseverything.net/easyclearing.html [2]http://www.gunlaug.no/contents/wd_additions_13.html -- http://www.gunlaug.no Got a little couch potato? Check out fun summer activities for kids. http://search.yahoo.com/search?fr=oni_on_mailp=summer+activities+for+kidscs=bz __ css-discuss [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d List wiki/FAQ -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/ List policies -- http://css-discuss.org/policies.html Supported by evolt.org -- http://www.evolt.org/help_support_evolt/
Re: [css-d] menu test - 2nd follow up
Thank you so much! When you wrote: Float the entire #menuh right, and _contain_ it. - what did you mean by and contain_it? I had to leave the float:right style on the page. If I moved it to the style sheet it didn't work. I think I remember hearing that to do a float you needed to declare the position, but when I declared the position on the menuh div it still didn't work. So for now I am leaving the float declaration on the page. Thank you again for your help. I did a Google search for the IE6 auto-expansion bug and it appears that maybe you coined the phrase - I am impressed. I will be reading up on it and trying to understand it all. Jennifer JGardner wrote: http://www.jgardnerdesigns.com/web-design-services.htm Per the problems below I made some changes, which I think solved the +1 break, but something caused some extra padding/margin, something in IE6. So now the page has all of this extra which space on the right side. Wrong width on menu, combined with IE6' auto-expansion bug. A lethal combination. IE6 also needs to establish a relation between #menuh-container and #menuh. Also, due to the changes the navigation now is on the left side, I had wanted it aligned on the right side. I can live with it since it is more functional now, but if anyone knows how I can get it to align to the right side of the page that would be a big bonus! Float the entire #menuh right, and _contain_ it. Background color goes on #menuh-container. Example: http://www.gunlaug.no/tos/alien/jg-2/test_07_0926.html New styles for the relevant elements are found in page-head. Only tested in IE6, IE7, Firefox 2.0.0.7 and Opera 9.23. regards Georg -- http://www.gunlaug.no Luggage? GPS? Comic books? Check out fitting gifts for grads at Yahoo! Search http://search.yahoo.com/search?fr=oni_on_mailp=graduation+giftscs=bz __ css-discuss [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d List wiki/FAQ -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/ List policies -- http://css-discuss.org/policies.html Supported by evolt.org -- http://www.evolt.org/help_support_evolt/
Re: [css-d] menu test - follow up +more
Thank you to everyone who took the time to test my menu! Per the problems below I made some changes, which I think solved the +1 break, but something caused some extra padding/margin, something in IE6. So now the page has all of this extra which space on the right side. You can see it here - http://www.jgardnerdesigns.com/web-design-services.htm If anyone has any suggestions, please send them my way. Also, due to the changes the navigation now is on the left side, I had wanted it aligned on the right side. I can live with it since it is more functional now, but if anyone knows how I can get it to align to the right side of the page that would be a big bonus! Thank you again for taking the time to help me with this! Jennifer os x 10.4.01 I think the menu is as intended in safari, ff, and camino: but +1 breaks it in all. In opera, the menu is aligned left with the about block breaking left approximately 30px out of the outermost page container. xp ie6 and ie7 on parallels/os x 10.4.01 In ie7 the link blocks break the top of the nav background band approx. 8px. At text-sixe largest they break out the bottom of the background band. In ie6 the menu is the same as opera/mac (it is aligned and breaking left). And, as well, the link blocks break the top of the nav background band approx. 8px. Sorry for all the bad news... Best, ~dL -- http://chelseacreekstudio.com/ __ css-discuss [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d List wiki/FAQ -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/ List policies -- http://css-discuss.org/policies.html Supported by evolt.org -- http://www.evolt.org/help_support_evolt/ Looking for a deal? Find great prices on flights and hotels with Yahoo! FareChase. http://farechase.yahoo.com/ __ css-discuss [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d List wiki/FAQ -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/ List policies -- http://css-discuss.org/policies.html Supported by evolt.org -- http://www.evolt.org/help_support_evolt/
[css-d] menu test
Hi, For whoever has a second (risky question :-)) could you test the drop down function on the menu (there is only a drop down section under services). You can find the menu here - http://www.jgardnerdesigns.com/web-design-services.htm It seems like sometimes in IE 6 when you hover over the drop down links they disappear. Please let me know if this happens to you and if so what browser you are using. I am also still having the positioning problem in IE6 - the menu you will not move over to the left as it does with FireFox, and IE7. So if you see this problem on a different browser please let me know. Thanks for your time. Jennifer Moody friends. Drama queens. Your life? Nope! - their life, your story. Play Sims Stories at Yahoo! Games. http://sims.yahoo.com/ __ css-discuss [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d List wiki/FAQ -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/ List policies -- http://css-discuss.org/policies.html Supported by evolt.org -- http://www.evolt.org/help_support_evolt/
Re: [css-d] menu test
Thank you so much!! Other than a slight positioning problem it seems to all be
working now.
Is
there a specific place (or book) that will explain how you knew what to
do? I did it and it worked but I don't know why it worked or more
importantly how I would know when it would solve a problem in the
future.
Thank you all for taking the time to test the menu for me. This group is
amazing!!
Jennifer
P.S. Sorry Georg I forgot to reply to all the first time.
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From: Gunlaug Sørtun [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: JGardner [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: Friday, September 21, 2007 1:15:17 PM
Subject: Re: [css-d] menu test
JGardner wrote:
http://www.jgardnerdesigns.com/web-design-services.htm
It seems like sometimes in IE 6 when you hover over the drop down
links they disappear. Please let me know if this happens to you and
if so what browser you are using.
IE6 and IE7 can't stack absolute positioned elements properly, so the
drop down ends up behind the text below instead of in front of it. This
of course leads to loss of focus on :hover when text gets in front of
the drop-down.
To fix this IE/win bug, add...
#header-inner {position: relative; z-index: 1;}
...to stack the entire header higher than the content.
I am also still having the positioning problem in IE6 - the menu you
will not move over to the left as it does with FireFox, and IE7. So
if you see this problem on a different browser please let me know.
I didn't check how wide 'width: 100%' is supposed to be, but Opera 9
interprets your styles same as IE6.
Change to...
#menuh {width: auto;}
...and they will all agree and send the menu to the same spot on the
right side.
regards
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[css-d] IE6 and left right position
Hi All, I have been working on a menu - and am still having a lot of IE6 problems (works great in IE7 and Firefox). Anyway, I wanted to position the navigation bar absolutely using top and right. The only way I can get it to work in IE6 is to position top and left. Does IE6 have a problem with absolutely positioning right? I have done several searches and cannot find anything indicating that it does (I have found some stuff but nothing exactly like what I am seeing). You can see the navigation bar here - http://www.jgardnerdesigns.com/web-design-services.htm If anyone has the time and is interested I am also having trouble with the top position, if I get it where I want in in IE7/Firefox than it is to high in IE6. I am assuming it is carrying over something from another div or something, but I didn't think it would do that if you positioned it absolutely. Thanks, Jennifer Fussy? Opinionated? Impossible to please? Perfect. Join Yahoo!'s user panel and lay it on us. http://surveylink.yahoo.com/gmrs/yahoo_panel_invite.asp?a=7 __ css-discuss [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d List wiki/FAQ -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/ List policies -- http://css-discuss.org/policies.html Supported by evolt.org -- http://www.evolt.org/help_support_evolt/
[css-d] IE 6 menu problem
Hello, I am working on a drop down navigation - it looks/works correctly in IE7 and Firefox, but not IE 6. I would appreciate any guidance to fixing this. You can see the page here - http://www.jgardnerdesigns.com/web-design-services.htm Thanks, Jennifer Fussy? Opinionated? Impossible to please? Perfect. Join Yahoo!'s user panel and lay it on us. http://surveylink.yahoo.com/gmrs/yahoo_panel_invite.asp?a=7 __ css-discuss [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d List wiki/FAQ -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/ List policies -- http://css-discuss.org/policies.html Supported by evolt.org -- http://www.evolt.org/help_support_evolt/
Re: [css-d] IE 6 menu problem - 1/2 solved
With great embarrassment, I thank you - I forgot to upload it. That part works
now.
The menu is still not positioned correctly and the hover background color is
not working on the drop down. Any ideas anyone?
Thanks,
Jennifer
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From: Ingo Chao [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: JGardner [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: Friday, September 14, 2007 2:13:40 PM
Subject: Re: [css-d] IE 6 menu problem
JGardner wrote:
Hello,
I am working on a drop down navigation - it looks/works correctly in
IE7 and Firefox, but not IE 6. I would appreciate any guidance to
fixing this. You can see the page here -
http://www.jgardnerdesigns.com/web-design-services.htm
Thanks, Jennifer
you have
!--[if lt IE 7]
style type=text/css media=screen
...
body{behavior:url(css/csshover.htc); font-size:110%;}
...
/style
![endif]--
but no
http://www.jgardnerdesigns.com/css/csshover.htc
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[css-d] css navigation
Hello all, I am wanting to learn how to do a css horizontal menu which has a 2nd level nav bar. I have tried to do a Google search for this but have not found what I am looking for. This might due to the fact that I don't know what to call it. I am looking for one where the secondary nave bar is only present when you hover on a top level nav item which has secondary navigation option. I hope this makes sense. So, if you know of a tutorial or a book that might cover this please pass it my way. Thanks, Jennifer Building a website is a piece of cake. Yahoo! Small Business gives you all the tools to get online. http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/webhosting __ css-discuss [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d IE7 information -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/?page=IE7 List wiki/FAQ -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/ Supported by evolt.org -- http://www.evolt.org/help_support_evolt/
[css-d] more IE 6 problems
Hello, I am having some positioning problems with IE 6 - it looks correct in IE 7, Firefox, and Safari ( I don't know about any others). On the home page, there is extra white on the right hand side of the container, you can see it here - http://www.jgardnerdesigns.com/ Then on the FAQ page the question mark image displays in the middle of the page instead of to the left. You can see it here - http://www.jgardnerdesigns.com/faq.htm Any help or guidance would be greatly appreciated - I don't know what I would do without this group!! Thanks, Jennifer Ready for the edge of your seat? Check out tonight's top picks on Yahoo! TV. http://tv.yahoo.com/ __ css-discuss [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d IE7 information -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/?page=IE7 List wiki/FAQ -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/ Supported by evolt.org -- http://www.evolt.org/help_support_evolt/
[css-d] positioning guidance - link
Sorry, I forgot to include a link to the page - It is here - http://www.jgardnerdesigns.com/ Thanks, Jennifer Looking for a deal? Find great prices on flights and hotels with Yahoo! FareChase. http://farechase.yahoo.com/ __ css-discuss [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d IE7 information -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/?page=IE7 List wiki/FAQ -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/ Supported by evolt.org -- http://www.evolt.org/help_support_evolt/
[css-d] positioning guidance
Well, I am finally working on my own site. I want three boxes lined up next to each other (the light blue boxes). I tried floating them but somehow that made them go into the footer (which has a red border on it while I am trying to figure this all out). So then I absolutely positioned them inside a relatively positioned div. Now the footer is up behind the boxes. Does anyone have a suggestion or a good link for a tutorial that will help me figure this out? Thanks, Jennifer Looking for a deal? Find great prices on flights and hotels with Yahoo! FareChase. http://farechase.yahoo.com/ __ css-discuss [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d IE7 information -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/?page=IE7 List wiki/FAQ -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/ Supported by evolt.org -- http://www.evolt.org/help_support_evolt/
[css-d] problem with IE 6 and a border
Well, I here I am again with an IE problem. It is really two problems. I have a red border under the navigation bar which displays correctly in Firefox, but in IE there is a gap between it and the navigation. The other problem is another border issue, the gold border around the image on the page (it is a rotating image) has a gap between the bottom of the picture and the gold border - again only in IE. You can see the site/problem here http://www.wacochildrenstheatre.com/ Once again, any help would be greatly appreciated. You all amaze with your expertise!!! Thanks, Jennifer Be a better Globetrotter. Get better travel answers from someone who knows. Yahoo! Answers - Check it out. http://answers.yahoo.com/dir/?link=listsid=396545469 __ css-discuss [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d IE7 information -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/?page=IE7 List wiki/FAQ -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/ Supported by evolt.org -- http://www.evolt.org/help_support_evolt/
Re: [css-d] problem with IE 6 and a border - solved
Wow, that fixed it!
Thank you Matthew - this group is truly amazing.
Jennifer
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From: Matthew Ohlman [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: JGardner [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: Thursday, August 9, 2007 8:42:35 PM
Subject: Re: [css-d] problem with IE 6 and a border
JGardner wrote:
I have a red border under the navigation bar which displays correctly in
Firefox, but in IE there is a gap between it and the navigation.
The other problem is another border issue, the gold border around the image
on the page (it is a rotating image) has a gap between the bottom of the
picture and the gold border - again only in IE.
You can see the site/problem here http://www.wacochildrenstheatre.com/
Hi Jennifer:
If you add this declaration in your css:
img {
vertical-align: bottom;
}
It should take care of the problem. IE is allowing space under your
images for the descenders of elements.
Hope this helps,
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[css-d] browser check
Hi, I did this site (it is a final project for a class) and have been told that it has problems in IE 6. I checked it on my computer IE 6 and Firefox and did not have any problems. If you have a second could you please check http://webtech.tstc.edu/students/gardnerj/cns/index.htm And let me know any problems you find. I am sorry I don't have any details, my instructor just emailed my and said - Please add support for IE6, so I am not exactly sure what isn't working - I am assuming it is the navigation because I don't know what else wouldn't work. Thank you, Jennifer Fussy? Opinionated? Impossible to please? Perfect. Join Yahoo!'s user panel and lay it on us. http://surveylink.yahoo.com/gmrs/yahoo_panel_invite.asp?a=7 __ css-discuss [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d IE7 information -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/?page=IE7 List wiki/FAQ -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/ Supported by evolt.org -- http://www.evolt.org/help_support_evolt/
[css-d] yet another ie problem
Hello, I am having a problem with a horizontal css menu. You can see it here: http://webtech.tstc.edu/students/gardnerj/cns/index.htm The menu is really a little to large in Firefox and to small in IE. Also, in IE only the top drop down item shows up. Any suggestions? Thanks, Jennifer Fussy? Opinionated? Impossible to please? Perfect. Join Yahoo!'s user panel and lay it on us. http://surveylink.yahoo.com/gmrs/yahoo_panel_invite.asp?a=7 __ css-discuss [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d IE7 information -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/?page=IE7 List wiki/FAQ -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/ Supported by evolt.org -- http://www.evolt.org/help_support_evolt/
[css-d] IE problem and liquid layout
Hi, I have a major problem with a page appearing correctly in Firefox but not IE 6. You can see the page here - http://webtech.tstc.edu/students/gardnerj/IMED2311/UF2/index.htm Also, I am wanting the page to be liquid or fluid (not sure what the correct terms is). Right now, I have to manually adjust the position of the white content box, based on the height of the gray news announcements box. This won't work as every time content is added to the gray box I would have to go change the position of main white content box. Also, if different pages have different different content in the gray box, every page would need a differently positioned white content box. I hope this makes sense and that there is a solution. TIA, Jennifer Pinpoint customers who are looking for what you sell. http://searchmarketing.yahoo.com/ __ css-discuss [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d IE7 information -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/?page=IE7 List wiki/FAQ -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/ Supported by evolt.org -- http://www.evolt.org/help_support_evolt/
[css-d] i.e. 6 looks right 7 and firefox incorrect
Hello, I am working on a site http://webtech.tstc.edu/students/gardnerj/IMED2311/UFofA/test.htm The menu/login looks like what I want in IE6, but not IE 7 and Firefox. For some reason in 7 and Firefox the red background does not extend all the way down through the menu. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks, Jennifer Yahoo! oneSearch: Finally, mobile search that gives answers, not web links. http://mobile.yahoo.com/mobileweb/onesearch?refer=1ONXIC __ css-discuss [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d IE7 information -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/?page=IE7 List wiki/FAQ -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/ Supported by evolt.org -- http://www.evolt.org/help_support_evolt/
