Re: [css-d] min-width/masx-width and IE
Shelly wrote: Hey all - I'm in need of some help here. I'm working on a site that I need to have a minimum width of 960px, and a max-width of 1280px - centered horizontally on the screen and with 3 columns. (If I can also accomplish a sticky footer, that's be awesome, as well - not necessary, but I have an image that need to stay at the bottom of the content if it's longer than the screen - or at the bottom of the screen if the content isn't long enough to push it down.) I can make all of these requirements function fine in everything but IE (are we surprised?) - I've even tried implementing the expression script in a conditional comment that's common to use, but as soon as I do, the three-column layout goes wonky (header disappears, left column disappears, right column drops to the bottom of the screen!) Shelly, I have never in my whole life been able to get those IE expressions to work, strangely. So I recommend just using JavaScript. I'm pretty sure IE expressions don't work unless JavaScript is on anyway (someone correct me if I'm wrong), so you're not losing any audience by using JavaScript for this. I recommend either the PVII or doxdesk scripts: http://www.projectseven.com/tutorials/css/minwidth/index.htm http://www.doxdesk.com/software/js/minmax.html Our wiki page could use some fleshing out, but there are a couple other things there: http://css-discuss.incutio.com/?page=MinWidth Zoe -- Zoe M. Gillenwater Design Services Manager UNC Highway Safety Research Center http://www.hsrc.unc.edu __ css-discuss [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d IE7b2 testing hub -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/?page=IE7 List wiki/FAQ -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/ Supported by evolt.org -- http://www.evolt.org/help_support_evolt/
Re: [css-d] min-width/masx-width and IE
Zoe M. Gillenwater wrote: I have never in my whole life been able to get those IE expressions to work, strangely. So I recommend just using JavaScript. Properly written and implemented IE expressions work every time at my end. IE expressions are based on javascript, but disguised as CSS. Using Javascript to simulate what IE/win lacks in CSS-support is fine, with one exception: none of the Javascript solutions I've seen works in sync with the browser and its CSS support, so you tend to get a time-lag. IE expressions do work in sync, so they tend to act smoother. I'm pretty sure IE expressions don't work unless JavaScript is on anyway (someone correct me if I'm wrong), so you're not losing any audience by using JavaScript for this. You're perfectly right... :-) ...so they both need a fall-back. Georg -- http://www.gunlaug.no __ css-discuss [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d IE7b2 testing hub -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/?page=IE7 List wiki/FAQ -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/ Supported by evolt.org -- http://www.evolt.org/help_support_evolt/
Re: [css-d] min-width/masx-width and IE
I'm sorry - I always forget that on this list, you have to reply ALL to get it out to the list. I need to stamp this on my forehead or something. Thanks for the advice - Georg's conditional comment/expression thing worked like a charm. Zoe - I was having the same problem - the expression wouldn't work no matter what I did. But Georg's was different, and by God it works wonderfully. Again, though - thanks for the help - you all rock :) ~Shelly __ css-discuss [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d IE7b2 testing hub -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/?page=IE7 List wiki/FAQ -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/ Supported by evolt.org -- http://www.evolt.org/help_support_evolt/
Re: [css-d] min-width/masx-width and IE
Gunlaug Sørtun wrote: Zoe M. Gillenwater wrote: I have never in my whole life been able to get those IE expressions to work, strangely. So I recommend just using JavaScript. Properly written and implemented IE expressions work every time at my end. Good for you. :-) Like I said, I've never gotten them to work on my pages. I didn't say that they don't work, just that they don't work for me, so I just recommend JavaScript. If you can get them to work, go ahead and use them if you like. I'm pretty sure IE expressions don't work unless JavaScript is on anyway (someone correct me if I'm wrong), so you're not losing any audience by using JavaScript for this. You're perfectly right... :-) ...so they both need a fall-back. Yeah, I never worry much about this, since (at least on my sites) min- and max-width has always been a nice to have, not an essential. As long as the site can still be used with JavaScript off, even if it doesn't look as nice, I'm happy. Zoe -- Zoe M. Gillenwater Design Services Manager UNC Highway Safety Research Center http://www.hsrc.unc.edu __ css-discuss [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d IE7b2 testing hub -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/?page=IE7 List wiki/FAQ -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/ Supported by evolt.org -- http://www.evolt.org/help_support_evolt/
[css-d] min-width/masx-width and IE
Hey all - I'm in need of some help here. I'm working on a site that I need to have a minimum width of 960px, and a max-width of 1280px - centered horizontally on the screen and with 3 columns. (If I can also accomplish a sticky footer, that's be awesome, as well - not necessary, but I have an image that need to stay at the bottom of the content if it's longer than the screen - or at the bottom of the screen if the content isn't long enough to push it down.) I can make all of these requirements function fine in everything but IE (are we surprised?) - I've even tried implementing the expression script in a conditional comment that's common to use, but as soon as I do, the three-column layout goes wonky (header disappears, left column disappears, right column drops to the bottom of the screen!) Would anyone have a tutorial or example or something that could point me in the right direction for this? Thanks so much :) ~Shelly __ css-discuss [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d IE7b2 testing hub -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/?page=IE7 List wiki/FAQ -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/ Supported by evolt.org -- http://www.evolt.org/help_support_evolt/
Re: [css-d] min-width/masx-width and IE
Shelly wrote: Would anyone have a tutorial or example or something that could point me in the right direction for this? Think so :-) http://www.gunlaug.no/contents/wd_additions_14.html regards Georg -- http://www.gunlaug.no __ css-discuss [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d IE7b2 testing hub -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/?page=IE7 List wiki/FAQ -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/ Supported by evolt.org -- http://www.evolt.org/help_support_evolt/
Re: [css-d] min-width/masx-width and IE
Can you post an example so we can gt a look at your page? -- Jono Young Designer | Developer | Illustrator Charleston Web Solutions Bringing Higher Standards to the Lowcountry http://www.charlestonwebsolutions.com/ __ css-discuss [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d IE7b2 testing hub -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/?page=IE7 List wiki/FAQ -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/ Supported by evolt.org -- http://www.evolt.org/help_support_evolt/
