Re: [css-d] Elastic layouts: want to confirm

2006-05-26 Thread Tom Livingston
idea for accessibility, it often leads to lots of horizontal scrolling What about a width limit (no, not a fixed width site) on the width of the main content in relation to the rest of the page (like an article) so as to allow the font scaling to occur vertically instead of horizontally? This

Re: [css-d] Elastic layouts: want to confirm

2006-05-26 Thread Nick Fitzsimons
Tom Livingston wrote: idea for accessibility, it often leads to lots of horizontal scrolling What about a width limit (no, not a fixed width site) on the width of the main content in relation to the rest of the page (like an article) so as to allow the font scaling to occur vertically

Re: [css-d] Elastic layouts: want to confirm

2006-05-26 Thread Bill Brown
In Firefox, press Ctrl-+ eight times. The page breaks, with content overlapping and unreadable. In case you're wondering whether anybody would use such extreme enlargement, the answer is yes, some people do. A friend of mine with a severe visual impairment resulting from diabetes needs

Re: [css-d] Elastic layouts: want to confirm

2006-05-26 Thread David Laakso
Nick Fitzsimons wrote: Tom Livingston wrote: idea for accessibility, it often leads to lots of horizontal scrolling What about a width limit (no, not a fixed width site) on the width of the main content in relation to the rest of the page (like an article) so as to allow the

Re: [css-d] Elastic layouts: want to confirm

2006-05-26 Thread Felix Miata
On 06/05/26 16:26 (GMT+0100) Nick Fitzsimons apparently typed: Tom Livingston wrote: idea for accessibility, it often leads to lots of horizontal scrolling What about a width limit (no, not a fixed width site) on the width of the main content in relation to the rest of the page (like an

Re: [css-d] Elastic layouts: want to confirm

2006-05-26 Thread Felix Miata
On 06/05/26 13:17 (GMT-0400) Bill Brown apparently typed: So, now I'm wondering...how does one define breakage? IMHO, if we try to account for every conceivable variable, including browser inconsistencies, every aspect of accessibility and the like, one is left with a completely unstyled

Re: [css-d] Elastic layouts: want to confirm

2006-05-24 Thread Felix Miata
On 06/05/19 09:32 (GMT+0100) Alastair Campbell apparently typed: Intending for layout's to scale based on font size isn't such a good idea for accessibility, it often leads to lots of horizontal scrolling for those who need it most. See this for more explanation:

Re: [css-d] Elastic layouts: want to confirm

2006-05-19 Thread Alastair Campbell
Christian Montoya wrote: No. EMs provides the best scaling possible for a layout that is intended to grow as the font grows. When the height and width of the font characters is somewhat similar, doubly so. Intending for layout's to scale based on font size isn't such a good idea for

Re: [css-d] Elastic layouts: want to confirm

2006-05-19 Thread Christian Montoya
On 5/19/06, Alastair Campbell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Christian Montoya wrote: No. EMs provides the best scaling possible for a layout that is intended to grow as the font grows. When the height and width of the font characters is somewhat similar, doubly so. Intending for layout's to

Re: [css-d] Elastic layouts: want to confirm

2006-05-19 Thread Alastair Campbell
I wrote: Intending for layout's to scale based on font size isn't such a good idea for accessibility Christian Montoya wrote: I never meant to imply that. My apologies, I misunderstood. Christian continued: It's poor foresight on the part of the designer who forgets to implement

[css-d] Elastic layouts: want to confirm

2006-05-18 Thread Mark Fellowes
I'm a little confused about my direction. I know that with elastic layouts you set the element widths using ems. What about margins , would those also be in ems ? TIA Mark __ css-discuss [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [css-d] Elastic layouts: want to confirm

2006-05-18 Thread Ed Seehouse
On 5/18/06, Mark Fellowes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I know that with elastic layouts you set the element widths using ems. What about margins , would those also be in ems ? That or percentages, whichever looks best to you at various resolutions. Ed Seedhouse

Re: [css-d] Elastic layouts: want to confirm

2006-05-18 Thread Tony Watkins
On 5/18/06, Mark Fellowes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I know that with elastic layouts you set the element widths using ems. What about margins , would those also be in ems ? That or percentages, whichever looks best to you at various resolutions. Ed Seedhouse Hmm. Since ems is a measure of

Re: [css-d] Elastic layouts: want to confirm

2006-05-18 Thread Felix Miata
On 06/05/18 17:17 (GMT-0400) Tony Watkins apparently typed: On 5/18/06, Mark Fellowes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I know that with elastic layouts you set the element widths using ems. What about margins , would those also be in ems ? That or percentages, whichever looks best to you at

Re: [css-d] Elastic layouts: want to confirm

2006-05-18 Thread Ed Seehouse
On 5/18/06, Tony Watkins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Since ems is a measure of height for a given font, wouldn't percent or pixels be a better and more accurate measurement for both margins and width/height? But you don't have a liquid layout if you use pixels . A px is a fixed measurement, but

Re: [css-d] Elastic layouts: want to confirm

2006-05-18 Thread Christian Montoya
On 5/18/06, Tony Watkins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 5/18/06, Mark Fellowes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I know that with elastic layouts you set the element widths using ems. What about margins , would those also be in ems ? That or percentages, whichever looks best to you at various