[css-d] How to get a good monospaced font for IE6

2005-09-21 Thread Rick F.
Ok.. I'm finding IE6 somewhat annoying with regards to monospaced fonts..
I've got some reports that I generate that are tabular in nature and 
look fine in Firefox for both PC/Mac as well as Safari on Tiger (OSX).  
In reviewing how the output looks for IE6 on PC's I find that the font
being used by that browser is proportional and all of my tabular data
is all over the place horizontally speaking.  I searched the archives'
of this list and found a few hints but am not that pleased with the
results.

I've tried setting my font-family for these reports to :

1: font-family: 'andale mono', 'lucida console', 'bitstream vera sans', 
monospace;
2: font-family: Arial, Courier New, sans-serif, monospace;
3: font-family: Monaco, Luxi Mono, Courier New, Courier, monospace;
4: font-family: Courier, Courier New, monospace;

I was originally using #4 which works great on Firefox and Safari but doesn't 
for IE6.
The only one that looks quasi monospaced for IE6 is #2..

I'd prefer not to serve up different css files for different browsers if I 
don't really
need to.. Any ideas on a nice easy way to get a monospaced font behavior on IE6 
and 
still work for Firefox  Safari?

If it matters, I've found that most IE6 installations I've found seem to have 
the
text encoding as US-ASCII.  Not sure if that really matters here or not.

-- Rick
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Re: [css-d] How to get a good monospaced font for IE6

2005-09-21 Thread Olly Hodgson
On 21/09/05, Rick F. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I've got some reports that I generate that are tabular in nature and
 look fine in Firefox for both PC/Mac as well as Safari on Tiger (OSX).
 In reviewing how the output looks for IE6 on PC's I find that the font
 being used by that browser is proportional and all of my tabular data
 is all over the place horizontally speaking.

The simplest way I can think of would be to wrap the data in pre or
code elements. Not perhaps the most semantic way of doing things,
but it'd be monospaced (unless you styled it otherwise) :)

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Re: [css-d] How to get a good monospaced font for IE6

2005-09-21 Thread Felix Miata
Rick F. wrote:

 Ok.. I'm finding IE6 somewhat annoying with regards to monospaced fonts..
 I've got some reports that I generate that are tabular in nature and
 look fine in Firefox for both PC/Mac as well as Safari on Tiger (OSX).
 In reviewing how the output looks for IE6 on PC's I find that the font
 being used by that browser is proportional and all of my tabular data
 is all over the place horizontally speaking.  I searched the archives'
 of this list and found a few hints but am not that pleased with the
 results.
 
 I've tried setting my font-family for these reports to :
 
 1: font-family: 'andale mono', 'lucida console', 'bitstream vera sans', 
 monospace;
 2: font-family: Arial, Courier New, sans-serif, monospace;
 3: font-family: Monaco, Luxi Mono, Courier New, Courier, monospace;
 4: font-family: Courier, Courier New, monospace;

'bitstream vera sans', Arial and (by default) sans-serif on windoze are
proportional fonts.
 
 I was originally using #4 which works great on Firefox and Safari but doesn't 
 for IE6.

On WinXP, Courier and Courier New both look the same on FF and IE6 here.

 The only one that looks quasi monospaced for IE6 is #2..

It shouldn't, unless someone has removed Arial from the system and
Courier and/or Courier New is/are installed (at least one should be).
 
 I'd prefer not to serve up different css files for different browsers if I 
 don't really
 need to.. Any ideas on a nice easy way to get a monospaced font behavior on 
 IE6 and
 still work for Firefox  Safari?

How about a public screenshot to show us what you see?
 
Here's what I see on
http://members.ij.net/mrmazda/auth/Font/fonts-face-samplesM.html :
http://mrmazda.no-ip.com/SS/monofonts-WXP.png

Ref. also to http://www.codestyle.org/css/font-family/index.shtml for
more looks at fonts.
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Re: [css-d] How to get a good monospaced font for IE6

2005-09-21 Thread David Laakso

Rick F. wrote:


Ok.. I'm finding IE6 somewhat annoying with regards to monospaced fonts..
Any ideas on a nice easy way to get a monospaced font behavior on IE6 and 
still work for Firefox  Safari?

-- Rick

 


Try:
code {  
   font: 1em 'Bitstream Vera Sans Mono', 'Courier New', Courier, monospace;

}
Regards,
~dL

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Re: [css-d] How to get a good monospaced font for IE6

2005-09-21 Thread Tom Livingston

On Wed, 21 Sep 2005 14:16:47 -0400, Rick F. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

I was originally using #4 which works great on Firefox and Safari but  
doesn't for IE6.

The only one that looks quasi monospaced for IE6 is #2..


FWIW, my reply to Rick OL...

I guess if all else fails, you could use a conditional comment maybe?

!--[if lte IE 6]
style type=text/css media=all
body{font-family: Arial, Courier New, sans-serif, monospace;}
/style
![endif]--

adjust as needed...

Rick, i noticed an errant br in what I sent you before... nuke it.



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Re: [css-d] How to get a good monospaced font for IE6

2005-09-21 Thread Steve Clay
Wednesday, September 21, 2005, 2:16:47 PM, Rick F. wrote:
 all of my tabular data

...should be in a table element.  The font isn't the problem, it's the
markup.

 is all over the place horizontally speaking.

Right, without the right element, your data is nothing but a blob of text
that a few lucky sighted persons with the right font can make sense of.

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Re: [css-d] How to get a good monospaced font for IE6

2005-09-21 Thread Rick F.
* Steve Clay [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2005-09-21 15:44:30 -0400]:

 Wednesday, September 21, 2005, 2:16:47 PM, Rick F. wrote:
  all of my tabular data
 
 ...should be in a table element.  The font isn't the problem, it's the
 markup.
 
  is all over the place horizontally speaking.
 
 Right, without the right element, your data is nothing but a blob of text
 that a few lucky sighted persons with the right font can make sense of.

Thanks for all of the suggestions.. I've got some more work cut out for me
on this.. I just checked my HTML validation and found that I've got a few
problems there that apparently didn't used to exist (the page used to validate,
but I've not played with it for several months).  Anyway, once I try some
of these suggestions, I'll post my results and might have a test login page
you all can try out for yourself on my server.  I'm sure I'll get lots of 
comments
as I'm fairly new to CSS work and am not done with my project yet in general.

Thanks!

-- Rick


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