Re: [css-d] IE8 conditional styles bug ??

2009-08-07 Thread Allen Beach
Ingo was correct, it was a preferred stylesheet issue, I just had to take out 
the title.  Very odd, but that was the fix.  Thanks again everyone for your 
sugguestions/ ideas.

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- Allen 






From: Alan Gresley a...@css-class.com
To: Allen Beach cmkbh...@ymail.com
Cc: css-d@lists.css-discuss.org
Sent: Thursday, August 6, 2009 9:03:38 PM
Subject: Re: [css-d] IE8 conditional styles bug ??

Allen Beach wrote:
 It appears that the new IE8 (when in IE8 standards mode) will not work 
 correctly when you have both inline and linked style sheets...if you're in 
 quirks or ie7 mode its fine, but the moment you switch to IE8 standards mode 
 (for both broser and docMode) your linked styles are gone!
 
 !--[if gte IE 8] !-- Not recognized unless in quirks/ie7 mode --
 link href=css/ie8.css rel=stylesheet type=text/css title=ie8
 ![endif]--
 
 test example --- http://mtroadwines.com/ie8test.htm
 
 Thanks everyone,
 ---
 - Allen 


Hello Allen,

Why do you need this. [if gte IE 8]. Echoing Al Sparber's comment, why 
do you need to feed IE8 and alternative stylesheet. BTW, before 
declaring that IE8 in standards mode still is far from perfect, maybe 
you may want to send all browsers some standard compliant code.

link href=ie8.css rel=stylesheet type=text/css title=ie8

Since you are using XHTML, maybe this will work better for IE8.


link href=ie8.css rel=stylesheet type=text/css title=ie8 /


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[css-d] IE8 conditional styles bug ??

2009-08-06 Thread Allen Beach
It appears that the new IE8 (when in IE8 standards mode) will not work 
correctly when you have both inline and linked style sheets...if you're in 
quirks or ie7 mode its fine, but the moment you switch to IE8 standards mode 
(for both broser and docMode) your linked styles are gone!

!--[if gte IE 8] !-- Not recognized unless in quirks/ie7 mode --
link href=css/ie8.css rel=stylesheet type=text/css title=ie8
![endif]--

test example --- http://mtroadwines.com/ie8test.htm

Thanks everyone,
---
- Allen 


  
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Re: [css-d] IE8 conditional styles bug ??

2009-08-06 Thread Al Sparber
From: Allen Beach cmkbh...@ymail.com
 It appears that the new IE8 (when in IE8 standards mode) will not work 
 correctly when you have both inline and linked style sheets...if you're in 
 quirks or ie7 mode its fine, but the moment you switch to IE8 standards 
 mode (for both broser and docMode) your linked styles are gone!

 !--[if gte IE 8] !-- Not recognized unless in quirks/ie7 mode --
link href=css/ie8.css rel=stylesheet type=text/css title=ie8
 ![endif]--

 test example --- http://mtroadwines.com/ie8test.htm

Seems to work fine for me.

Given IE8 rendering in standards mode there would not seem to be much reason 
for using conditional comments - in most cases.

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Re: [css-d] IE8 conditional styles bug ??

2009-08-06 Thread Al Sparber
From: Al Sparber aspar...@roadrunner.com


 From: Allen Beach cmkbh...@ymail.com
 It appears that the new IE8 (when in IE8 standards mode) will not work 
 correctly when you have both inline and linked style sheets...if you're 
 in quirks or ie7 mode its fine, but the moment you switch to IE8 
 standards mode (for both broser and docMode) your linked styles are gone!

 !--[if gte IE 8] !-- Not recognized unless in quirks/ie7 mode --
link href=css/ie8.css rel=stylesheet type=text/css title=ie8
 ![endif]--

 test example --- http://mtroadwines.com/ie8test.htm

 Seems to work fine for me.

 Given IE8 rendering in standards mode there would not seem to be much 
 reason for using conditional comments - in most cases.

Try View  Styles  IE8

Then remove the id from the link tag in your IE8 conditional comment.

-- 
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Re: [css-d] IE8 conditional styles bug ??

2009-08-06 Thread Ingo Chao
If I am not wrong, my IE8 Vista (Browser mode: IE8; Document mode: IE8
Standards) applies the rules in question. I can see a square div
aquamarine, with text on it.


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Re: [css-d] IE8 conditional styles bug ??

2009-08-06 Thread Allen Beach
But are you seeing BOTH inline and linked styles?

 Thanks---
- Allen






From: Ingo Chao ichaoc...@googlemail.com
To: Allen Beach cmkbh...@ymail.com
Cc: css-d@lists.css-discuss.org
Sent: Thursday, August 6, 2009 11:43:20 AM
Subject: Re: [css-d] IE8 conditional styles bug ??

If I am not wrong, my IE8 Vista (Browser mode: IE8; Document mode: IE8
Standards) applies the rules in question. I can see a square div
aquamarine, with text on it.


 test example --- http://mtroadwines.com/ie8test.htm

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Re: [css-d] IE8 conditional styles bug ??

2009-08-06 Thread Allen Beach
You should see 2 boxes, one with inline and one with linked styles...

Al Sparber - I disagree, IE8 in standards mode still is far from perfect, and 
when creating a corporate site that works in IE6/7/8 and going forward, its 
important to have a seperate style sheet that takes certain items into account. 
 Regardless, if you agree, this still appears to be a bug.

 Thanks---
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From: Al Sparber aspar...@roadrunner.com
To: css-d@lists.css-discuss.org
Sent: Thursday, August 6, 2009 12:01:13 PM
Subject: Re: [css-d] IE8 conditional styles bug ??

From: Al Sparber aspar...@roadrunner.com


 From: Allen Beach cmkbh...@ymail.com
 It appears that the new IE8 (when in IE8 standards mode) will not work 
 correctly when you have both inline and linked style sheets...if you're 
 in quirks or ie7 mode its fine, but the moment you switch to IE8 
 standards mode (for both broser and docMode) your linked styles are gone!

 !--[if gte IE 8] !-- Not recognized unless in quirks/ie7 mode --
link href=css/ie8.css rel=stylesheet type=text/css title=ie8
 ![endif]--

 test example --- http://mtroadwines.com/ie8test.htm

 Seems to work fine for me.

 Given IE8 rendering in standards mode there would not seem to be much 
 reason for using conditional comments - in most cases.

Try View  Styles  IE8

Then remove the id from the link tag in your IE8 conditional comment.

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Re: [css-d] IE8 conditional styles bug ??

2009-08-06 Thread Al Sparber
From: Allen Beach cmkbh...@ymail.com

 You should see 2 boxes, one with inline and one with linked styles...

 Al Sparber - I disagree, IE8 in standards mode still is far from perfect, 
 and when creating a corporate site that works in IE6/7/8 and going 
 forward, its important to have a seperate style sheet that takes certain 
 items into account.  Regardless, if you agree, this still appears to be a 
 bug.

I disagree, but just follow the steps in my previous email. For the second 
step, I apologize for a typo... Instead of removing the ID, remove the 
Title.

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Re: [css-d] IE8 conditional styles bug ??

2009-08-06 Thread Ingo Chao
2009/8/6 Al Sparber aspar...@roadrunner.com:
 
 I disagree, but just follow the steps in my previous email. For the second
 step, I apologize for a typo... Instead of removing the ID, remove the
 Title.


Yes, there are two preferred stylesheets (- HTML 4) visible for IE8
(A  title=all and B title=ie8), so the first one may win. This is
not a bug.

Ingo
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Re: [css-d] IE8 conditional styles bug ??

2009-08-06 Thread Alan Gresley
Allen Beach wrote:
 It appears that the new IE8 (when in IE8 standards mode) will not work 
 correctly when you have both inline and linked style sheets...if you're in 
 quirks or ie7 mode its fine, but the moment you switch to IE8 standards mode 
 (for both broser and docMode) your linked styles are gone!
 
 !--[if gte IE 8] !-- Not recognized unless in quirks/ie7 mode --
 link href=css/ie8.css rel=stylesheet type=text/css title=ie8
 ![endif]--
 
 test example --- http://mtroadwines.com/ie8test.htm
 
 Thanks everyone,
 ---
 - Allen 


Hello Allen,

Why do you need this. [if gte IE 8]. Echoing Al Sparber's comment, why 
do you need to feed IE8 and alternative stylesheet. BTW, before 
declaring that IE8 in standards mode still is far from perfect, maybe 
you may want to send all browsers some standard compliant code.

link href=ie8.css rel=stylesheet type=text/css title=ie8

Since you are using XHTML, maybe this will work better for IE8.


link href=ie8.css rel=stylesheet type=text/css title=ie8 /


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