Re: [css-d] Two Phones one problem

2015-02-17 Thread David Laakso
On Mon, Feb 16, 2015 at 9:54 PM, Crest Christopher 
crestchristop...@gmail.com wrote:

 There is a bit of a conundrum.  When I view the page using Chromes device
 emulation tools, specifically the Samsung Galaxy Tab 7.7,8.9,10.1.  The
 page looks fine in landscape, horrible in portrait, viewing the page on my
 Lumia 1520 the page looks fine in portrait, horrible in landscape.
 Reversing the MQ has the possibility of reversing this problem, as it
 appears it's the only problem I face with the page, with regards to styling.

 Christopher


Put the page on a public server and provide a link to it in your post to
the list.
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Re: [css-d] Two Phones one problem

2015-02-17 Thread Crest Christopher
Here is the page 
http://www.thecreativesheep.ca/wdp/wip/cs_regular_tutorial_WIP_2.htm.


Christopher

David Laakso mailto:laakso.davi...@gmail.com
Monday, February 16, 2015 7:12 AM
On Mon, Feb 16, 2015 at 12:18 AM, Crest Christopher


The specs for the screen size of the three phones you listed are:
1/ iPhone/4 3.5 inches corner-to-corner
2/ iPhone/5 4 inches corner-to-corner
3/ Nokia Lumina 1520 6 inches corner-to-corner
Try revising your mq break-point to accommodate the wider Nokia Lumina 
screen?

Best,
David Laakso
Crest Christopher mailto:crestchristop...@gmail.com
Monday, February 16, 2015 12:18 AM
I've run into an odd problem with a MQ between two different phones 
that have the same width when in landscape mode which is 480px.  Those 
two phones are iPhone 4 and my Lumia 1520, the page I'm working on 
looks, for the most part, fine, when viewed on a iPhone 5, when I 
preview on my Lumia, the page breaks and I don't understand why ?


Christopher

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Re: [css-d] Two Phones one problem

2015-02-17 Thread David Laakso
On Tue, Feb 17, 2015 at 7:28 PM, Crest Christopher 
crestchristop...@gmail.com wrote:

 Here is the page
 http://www.thecreativesheep.ca/wdp/wip/cs_regular_tutorial_WIP_2.htm.

 Christopher



On line numbers 334-341 try changing this:
/* Media {Landscape}*/
@media (max-height:600px) and (orientation:landscape) {
#wrap {
width:100%;
background:#b7b7b7;
margin:auto;
}

To read this:
/* Media {Landscape}*/
@media only screen and (min-width:0px) and (max-width:600px){
#wrap {
width:100%;
background:#b7b7b7;
margin:auto;
}

On line numbers 363-370 try changing this:
  p.imgbox {
position:relative; /*containg block for AP paperclip*/
width:300px; /*BG image width*/
height:350px; /*BG image height*/
background: url(images/background.gif) no-repeat;
border:5px dashed red;
   right:-75px;
 }
To read this:
  p.imgbox {
position:relative; /*containg block for AP paperclip*/
width:300px; /*BG image width*/
height:350px; /*BG image height*/
background: url(images/background.gif) no-repeat;
border:5px dashed red;
   /* right:-75px; delete*/
 }

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Re: [css-d] Two Phones one problem

2015-02-16 Thread Karl DeSaulniers
Did you set portrait or landscape on those media queries? Or are you going 
by pixels alone?

@media screen and (max-height:600px) {}

@media screen and (max-height:600px) and portrait {}

These work somewhat differently. 

Best,
Karl

Sent from losPhone

 On Feb 16, 2015, at 9:01 AM, Tom Livingston tom...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Imo, unless the content suffers horribly at landscape, sounds like you
 could just move your breakpoint. You may be able to get away with no
 breakpoint until somewhere around 600px or em equivalent (recommended).
 
 
 On Mon, Feb 16, 2015 at 12:18 AM Crest Christopher 
 crestchristop...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 I've run into an odd problem with a MQ between two different phones that
 have the same width when in landscape mode which is 480px.  Those two
 phones are iPhone 4 and my Lumia 1520, the page I'm working on looks,
 for the most part, fine, when viewed on a iPhone 5, when I preview on my
 Lumia, the page breaks and I don't understand why ?
 
 Christopher
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Re: [css-d] Two Phones one problem

2015-02-16 Thread Karl DeSaulniers
Yes Chris, sorry. 
... and (orientation: portrait)

Was typing quickly.

Best,
Karl

Best,

Karl DeSaulniers
Design Drumm
http://designdrumm.com



On Feb 16, 2015, at 1:34 PM, Crest Christopher crestchristop...@gmail.com 
wrote:

 @media (min-width:533px) and (orientation:landscape)  !
 
 Karl DeSaulniers wrote:
 
 Did you set portrait or landscape on those media queries? Or are you 
 going by pixels alone?
 
 @media screen and (max-height:600px) {}
 
 @media screen and (max-height:600px) and portrait {}
 
 These work somewhat differently.
 
 Best,
 Karl
 
 Sent from losPhone
 
 
 On Feb 16, 2015, at 9:01 AM, Tom Livingstontom...@gmail.com  wrote:
 
 Imo, unless the content suffers horribly at landscape, sounds like you
 could just move your breakpoint. You may be able to get away with no
 breakpoint until somewhere around 600px or em equivalent (recommended).
 
 
 On Mon, Feb 16, 2015 at 12:18 AM Crest Christopher
 crestchristop...@gmail.com  wrote:
  BR
 
 
 I've run into an odd problem with a MQ between two different phones that
 have the same width when in landscape mode which is 480px.  Those two
 phones are iPhone 4 and my Lumia 1520, the page I'm working on looks,
 for the most part, fine, when viewed on a iPhone 5, when I preview on my
 Lumia, the page breaks and I don't understand why ?
 
 Christopher
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Re: [css-d] Two Phones one problem

2015-02-16 Thread David Laakso
 I cannot help but feel that the current need, apparently experienced by
 many, to attempt to cope with an exponentially increasing number of
 smart'phone and tablet variants by writing ever-more-complex media queries,
 is essentially analogous to the need to flagellate oneself with nettles,
 brambles and similar as experienced by mystics and others in previous
 centuries.  The pleasure to be experienced when you finally have the sense
 to stop will surely far outweigh the anguish and pain that you are currently
 experiencing ...

 Philip Taylor


Good point. And that point is probably when the primary content is of
sufficient contrast and at least at user default,so as to be readable
and legible by children of all ages in phone portrait mode.
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Re: [css-d] Two Phones one problem

2015-02-16 Thread Crest Christopher
There is a bit of a conundrum.  When I view the page using Chromes 
device emulation tools, specifically the Samsung Galaxy Tab 
7.7,8.9,10.1.  The page looks fine in landscape, horrible in portrait, 
viewing the page on my Lumia 1520 the page looks fine in portrait, 
horrible in landscape.  Reversing the MQ has the possibility of 
reversing this problem, as it appears it's the only problem I face with 
the page, with regards to styling.


Christopher


David Laakso mailto:laakso.davi...@gmail.com
Monday, February 16, 2015 8:25 AM


Good point. And that point is probably when the primary content is of
sufficient contrast and at least at user default,so as to be readable
and legible by children of all ages in phone portrait mode.
Best,
David Laakso

Philip Taylor mailto:p.tay...@rhul.ac.uk
Monday, February 16, 2015 7:26 AM


David Laakso wrote:


The specs for the screen size of the three phones you listed are:
1/ iPhone/4 3.5 inches corner-to-corner
2/ iPhone/5 4 inches corner-to-corner
3/ Nokia Lumina 1520 6 inches corner-to-corner


Try revising your mq break-point to accommodate the wider Nokia 
Lumina screen?


I cannot help but feel that the current need, apparently experienced 
by many, to attempt to cope with an exponentially increasing number of 
smart'phone and tablet variants by writing ever-more-complex media 
queries, is essentially analogous to the need to flagellate oneself 
with nettles, brambles and similar as experienced by mystics and 
others in previous centuries.  The pleasure to be experienced when you 
finally have the sense to stop will surely far outweigh the anguish 
and pain that you are currently experiencing ...


Philip Taylor
David Laakso mailto:laakso.davi...@gmail.com
Monday, February 16, 2015 7:12 AM
On Mon, Feb 16, 2015 at 12:18 AM, Crest Christopher


The specs for the screen size of the three phones you listed are:
1/ iPhone/4 3.5 inches corner-to-corner
2/ iPhone/5 4 inches corner-to-corner
3/ Nokia Lumina 1520 6 inches corner-to-corner
Try revising your mq break-point to accommodate the wider Nokia Lumina 
screen?

Best,
David Laakso
Crest Christopher mailto:crestchristop...@gmail.com
Monday, February 16, 2015 12:18 AM
I've run into an odd problem with a MQ between two different phones 
that have the same width when in landscape mode which is 480px.  Those 
two phones are iPhone 4 and my Lumia 1520, the page I'm working on 
looks, for the most part, fine, when viewed on a iPhone 5, when I 
preview on my Lumia, the page breaks and I don't understand why ?


Christopher

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Re: [css-d] Two Phones one problem

2015-02-16 Thread Philip Taylor



David Laakso wrote:


The specs for the screen size of the three phones you listed are:
1/ iPhone/4 3.5 inches corner-to-corner
2/ iPhone/5 4 inches corner-to-corner
3/ Nokia Lumina 1520 6 inches corner-to-corner



Try revising your mq break-point to accommodate the wider Nokia Lumina screen?


I cannot help but feel that the current need, apparently experienced by 
many, to attempt to cope with an exponentially increasing number of 
smart'phone and tablet variants by writing ever-more-complex media 
queries, is essentially analogous to the need to flagellate oneself with 
nettles, brambles and similar as experienced by mystics and others in 
previous centuries.  The pleasure to be experienced when you finally 
have the sense to stop will surely far outweigh the anguish and pain 
that you are currently experiencing ...


Philip Taylor
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Re: [css-d] Two Phones one problem

2015-02-16 Thread Tom Livingston
Imo, unless the content suffers horribly at landscape, sounds like you
could just move your breakpoint. You may be able to get away with no
breakpoint until somewhere around 600px or em equivalent (recommended).


On Mon, Feb 16, 2015 at 12:18 AM Crest Christopher 
crestchristop...@gmail.com wrote:

 I've run into an odd problem with a MQ between two different phones that
 have the same width when in landscape mode which is 480px.  Those two
 phones are iPhone 4 and my Lumia 1520, the page I'm working on looks,
 for the most part, fine, when viewed on a iPhone 5, when I preview on my
 Lumia, the page breaks and I don't understand why ?

 Christopher
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Re: [css-d] Two Phones one problem

2015-02-16 Thread David Laakso
On Mon, Feb 16, 2015 at 12:18 AM, Crest Christopher
crestchristop...@gmail.com wrote:
 I've run into an odd problem with a MQ between two different phones that
 have the same width when in landscape mode which is 480px.  Those two phones
 are iPhone 4 and my Lumia 1520, the page I'm working on looks, for the most
 part, fine, when viewed on a iPhone 5, when I preview on my Lumia, the page
 breaks and I don't understand why ?

 Christopher


The specs for the screen size of the three phones you listed are:
1/ iPhone/4 3.5 inches corner-to-corner
2/ iPhone/5 4 inches corner-to-corner
3/ Nokia Lumina 1520 6 inches corner-to-corner
Try revising your mq break-point to accommodate the wider Nokia Lumina screen?
Best,
David Laakso
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[css-d] Two Phones one problem

2015-02-15 Thread Crest Christopher
I've run into an odd problem with a MQ between two different phones that 
have the same width when in landscape mode which is 480px.  Those two 
phones are iPhone 4 and my Lumia 1520, the page I'm working on looks, 
for the most part, fine, when viewed on a iPhone 5, when I preview on my 
Lumia, the page breaks and I don't understand why ?


Christopher
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