[css-d] asterisk in front of font property

2006-05-16 Thread Demers, Scott
Can someone explain the significance of the asterisk in the following
code? Thanks.

 

body {font:13px
arial,helvetica,clean,sans-serif;*font-size:small;*font:x-small;}

 

Scott

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Re: [css-d] asterisk in front of font property

2006-05-16 Thread Paul Seale
It is probably an IE 6 hack. The asterisk before the element makes it
visible to IE.

paul

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Can someone explain the significance of the asterisk in the following
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Re: [css-d] asterisk in front of font property

2006-05-16 Thread Demers, Scott
I can tell you that the code is taken from the fonts style-sheet of
the YUI library. It's an attempt to normalize font-size across browsers.
Now that I know what the asterisks are for, it makes sense. From the
code comments:
 x-small is for IE  6 and IE6 quirks mode

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On 5/16/06 1:33 PM, Demers, Scott [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 body {font:13px
 arial,helvetica,clean,sans-serif;*font-size:small;*font:x-small;}

Not only the asterisks, but what is actually happening in that rule? Do
non-IE browsers _not_ see the last to size declarations? If they are
only
for IE, why have both small and x-small?

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Re: [css-d] asterisk in front of font property

2006-05-16 Thread David Laakso
Demers, Scott wrote:
 Can someone explain the significance of the asterisk in the following
 code? Thanks.

  

 body {font:13px
 arial,helvetica,clean,sans-serif;*font-size:small;*font:x-small;}
   
It is not valid. Probably the author( a control freak) meant to comment 
out stuff,  as in:

body {font: 13px arial,helvetica,clean,sans-serif;/*font-size:small; 
font:x-small;*/}

A user friendly author might write this, instead:
body {font: medium/normal sans-serif; }
Or 
body {font: 100%/1.2 sans-serif; }
Or
body {font-family: sans-serif; }

Or, and more...see the Wiki.

  

 Scott
Regards,
~davidLaakso

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Re: [css-d] asterisk in front of font property

2006-05-16 Thread Tom Livingston
On 5/16/06, Tom Livingston [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   body {font:13px
   arial,helvetica,clean,sans-serif;*font-size:small;*font:x-small;}
  
  It is not valid.

 I didn't think it was. 'font:' with _only_ a size attribute is incorrect. No?

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Re: [css-d] asterisk in front of font property

2006-05-16 Thread Demers, Scott
This is interesting. As I mentioned, this is code released as part of
the Yahoo User Interface Library ( http://developer.yahoo.com/yui/ ). If
it is in fact invalid, I'll mention it on the bug list.

Scott

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On 5/16/06, Tom Livingston [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   body {font:13px
   arial,helvetica,clean,sans-serif;*font-size:small;*font:x-small;}
  
  It is not valid.

 I didn't think it was. 'font:' with _only_ a size attribute is
incorrect. No?

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 Senior Multimedia Artist
 Media Logic
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Re: [css-d] asterisk in front of font property

2006-05-16 Thread Tony Crockford
Demers, Scott wrote:
 This is interesting. As I mentioned, this is code released as part of
 the Yahoo User Interface Library ( http://developer.yahoo.com/yui/ ). If
 it is in fact invalid, I'll mention it on the bug list.

The question came up on the YDN-javascript list (may 12th) and the 
response from Nate Koechley was:

Great question. Matt and I are finishing a blog post that should be
published to http://yuiblog.com  in the next day or two that looks at
Fonts CSS in detail, including this issue. Instead of ruining the
suspense, I'd ask you to wait for it there  ;)

I will say, though, that it is intentional. While we're strongly 
against CSS filters and hacks in general (that's what's causing the 
console notifications), sometimes it's justified. We hope that, once 
explained, you'll agree with our approach.

Thanks
Nate


So I'm waiting, should be an interesting read...

;o)
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