Re: [css-d] iPad differences

2016-08-11 Thread Crest Christopher
Anyone one this list use BrowserStack ? Tom Livingston wrote: > > I was speaking desktop vs desktop. I put little stock in emulators. > Test on > as many devices as possible and be prepared to tweak as reports of issues > become known or to get at least a little closer to real, use browserstack >

Re: [css-d] iPad differences

2016-08-11 Thread Crest Christopher
Where I live and whom I know don't own many devices so that is an up hill battle I can't climb. Tom Livingston wrote: > > I was speaking desktop vs desktop. I put little stock in emulators. > Test on > as many devices as possible and be prepared to tweak as reports of issues > become known or to

Re: [css-d] iPad differences

2016-08-11 Thread Tom Livingston
I was speaking desktop vs desktop. I put little stock in emulators. Test on as many devices as possible and be prepared to tweak as reports of issues become known or to get at least a little closer to real, use browserstack or similar who use official simulators from the manufacturers. On

Re: [css-d] iPad differences

2016-08-11 Thread Crest Christopher
It could be the same, remember Safari doesn't emulate based on iOS. Tom Livingston wrote: > > It most definitely is not the same. > > > > On Thursday, August 11, 2016, Crest Christopher > > wrote: > > That is why I don't use

Re: [css-d] iPad differences

2016-08-11 Thread Tom Livingston
It most definitely is not the same. On Thursday, August 11, 2016, Crest Christopher wrote: > That is why I don't use Safari for testing, as I said; it's the same as > using Chrome. > > Mi B wrote: > > > >> > >> aug. 11 2016 07:38 Karl DeSaulniers

Re: [css-d] iPad differences

2016-08-11 Thread Crest Christopher
That is why I don't use Safari for testing, as I said; it's the same as using Chrome. Mi B wrote: > >> >> aug. 11 2016 07:38 Karl DeSaulniers : >> >> Chrome is built off of Gecko and Webkit anyway. Probably why you >> didn't see much difference. >> It "technically" IS

Re: [css-d] iPad differences

2016-08-11 Thread Karl DeSaulniers
Ah.. a slimline webkit. Good for google! Thanks for that link MB. Still based off of webkit though. Just not named webkit anymore.. lol And a whole lot of dead wood removed from what I read here. They removed 4.5 million lines of code!? Bad Webkit.. bad!

Re: [css-d] iPad differences

2016-08-11 Thread Mi B
> aug. 11 2016 08:37 skrev Mi B : > > >> aug. 11 2016 07:38 Karl DeSaulniers > >: >> >> Chrome is built off of Gecko and Webkit anyway. Probably why you didn't see >> much difference. >> It "technically" IS

Re: [css-d] iPad differences

2016-08-11 Thread Mi B
> aug. 11 2016 07:38 Karl DeSaulniers : > > Chrome is built off of Gecko and Webkit anyway. Probably why you didn't see > much difference. > It "technically" IS Safari under the hood. No, it isn’t. "It’s here: Google replaces WebKit version ID with Blink in latest

Re: [css-d] iPad differences

2016-08-10 Thread Karl DeSaulniers
Chrome is built off of Gecko and Webkit anyway. Probably why you didn't see much difference. It "technically" IS Safari under the hood. As far as emulators go.. Makes sense to me to use Apple's web browser for testing for Apple devices. Makes sense to me to use Chrome for testing for Android

Re: [css-d] iPad differences

2016-08-10 Thread Crest Christopher
The last time I downloaded Safari for Windows, I didn't notice a difference with the emulated with Retina Devices in Chrome so I removed Safari. Karl DeSaulniers wrote: > > I have an iPhone still on iOS 7. > No iPad though. > > @crest - you do know you can view inspect element of any iPhone or >

Re: [css-d] iPad differences

2016-08-10 Thread Karl DeSaulniers
I have an iPhone still on iOS 7. No iPad though. @crest - you do know you can view inspect element of any iPhone or iPad in safari desktop? safari also has a responsive design mode. Works best for iPhone and iPad emulation I have found. Best, Karl Sent from losPhone > On Aug 10, 2016, at

Re: [css-d] iPad differences

2016-08-10 Thread Karl DeSaulniers
Yes. Very aware. That was the top google search results I found using crests key words. Being that he has been asking about retina images in the past, I felt it was worth noting the pixel dimensions. Best, Karl Sent from losPhone > On Aug 10, 2016, at 6:34 PM, Philippe Wittenbergh

Re: [css-d] iPad differences

2016-08-10 Thread Crest Christopher
Philippe you have an actual iPad ? Philippe Wittenbergh wrote: > >> >> On Aug 11, 2016, at 8:24 AM, Crest Christopher >> wrote: >> >> Although >> the simulator uses iOS 7.1.2 and since I know nothing of iOS, strictly >> Windows but from what may be possible is newer

Re: [css-d] iPad differences

2016-08-10 Thread Philippe Wittenbergh
> On Aug 11, 2016, at 3:23 AM, Karl DeSaulniers wrote: > > They are not the same resolution or size. > > The biggest difference between these tablets is screen density. > The iPad mini's display is 7.9 inches diagonally, with 1024 x 768 resolution > at 163 pixels per

Re: [css-d] iPad differences

2016-08-10 Thread Philippe Wittenbergh
> On Aug 11, 2016, at 8:24 AM, Crest Christopher > wrote: > > Although > the simulator uses iOS 7.1.2 and since I know nothing of iOS, strictly > Windows but from what may be possible is newer versions of iOS may have > issues such as this fixed ? Latest iOS

Re: [css-d] iPad differences

2016-08-10 Thread Crest Christopher
Unfortunately I have to rely on a emulator \ simulator that will mean that I may once the page is online encounter issues that will have to be fixed when those issues arise on whatever device that may be. In the mean-time, the iPad I'm testing on has a 1024x768 resolution. Chrome device

Re: [css-d] iPad differences

2016-08-10 Thread Philippe Wittenbergh
> On Aug 10, 2016, at 11:37 PM, Crest Christopher > wrote: > > TheiPad & iPad mini are both the same CSS width but when previewing both > devices; the iPad Mini give me problems with one element. Shouldn't the > results be identical ? Are you testing with real

Re: [css-d] iPad differences

2016-08-10 Thread Crest Christopher
You are referring to the iPad 3,4 & Air. I meant the iPad 1,2. The iPad Pro is the largest at 2048 width. I guess I'm going to target these Apple devices with criteria other then device-width. Karl DeSaulniers wrote: > > They are not the same resolution or size. > > The biggest difference

Re: [css-d] iPad differences

2016-08-10 Thread Karl DeSaulniers
They are not the same resolution or size. The biggest difference between these tablets is screen density. The iPad mini's display is 7.9 inches diagonally, with 1024 x 768 resolution at 163 pixels per inch. The iPad with Retina display packs a punch — 9.7 inches, with 2048 x 1536 resolution

[css-d] iPad differences

2016-08-10 Thread Crest Christopher
TheiPad & iPad mini are both the same CSS width but when previewing both devices; the iPad Mini give me problems with one element. Shouldn't the results be identical ? __ css-discuss [css-d@lists.css-discuss.org]