Re: [css-d] iPad differences

[Crest Christopher]

Anyone one this list use BrowserStack ?

Tom Livingston wrote:
>
> I was speaking desktop vs desktop. I put little stock in emulators.
> Test on
> as many devices as possible and be prepared to tweak as reports of issues
> become known or to get at least a little closer to real, use browserstack
> or similar who use official simulators from the manufacturers.
>
>
>
> On Thursday, August 11, 2016, Crest Christopher
> 
> wrote:
>
>>
>> It could be the same, remember Safari doesn't emulate based on iOS.
>>
>> Tom Livingston wrote:
>>
>>
>> It most definitely is not the same.
>>
>>
>>
>> On Thursday, August 11, 2016, Crest Christopher
>> >  > crestchristop...@gmail.com
>> >> wrote:
>>
>> That is why I don't use Safari for testing, as I said; it's the
>> same as
>> using Chrome.
>>
>> Mi B wrote:
>> >
>> >>
>> >> aug. 11 2016 07:38 Karl DeSaulniers > 
>> >:
>> >>
>> >> Chrome is built off of Gecko and Webkit anyway. Probably why you
>> >> didn't see m uch difference.
>> >> It "technically" IS Safari under the hood.
>> >
>> >
>> > No, it isn’t.
>> >
>> > "It’s here: Google replaces WebKit version ID with Blink in latest
>> > Chrome build”
>> > Apr 8, 2013
>> >
>> http://thenextweb.com/google/2013/04/08/its-here-google-
>> replaces-webkit-with-blink-in-latest-build-of-chrome/
>> > replaces-webkit-with-blink-in-latest-build-of-chrome/>
>> >
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Re: [css-d] iPad differences

[Crest Christopher]

Where I live and whom I know don't own many devices so that is an up
hill battle I can't climb.

Tom Livingston wrote:
>
> I was speaking desktop vs desktop. I put little stock in emulators.
> Test on
> as many devices as possible and be prepared to tweak as reports of issues
> become known or to get at least a little closer to real, use browserstack
> or similar who use official simulators from the manufacturers.
>
>
>
> On Thursday, August 11, 2016, Crest Christopher
> 
> wrote:
>
>>
>> It could be the same, remember Safari doesn't emulate based on iOS.
>>
>> Tom Livingston wrote:
>>
>>
>> It most definitely is not the same.
>>
>>
>>
>> On Thursday, August 11, 2016, Crest Christopher
>> >  > crestchristop...@gmail.com
>> >> wrote:
>>
>> That is why I don't use Safari for testing, as I said; it's the
>> same as
>> using Chrome.
>>
>> Mi B wrote:
>> >
>> >>
>> >> aug. 11 2016 07:38 Karl DeSaulniers > 
>> >:
>> >>
>> >> Chrome is built off of Gecko and Webkit anyway. Probably why you
>> >> didn't see m uch difference.
>> >> It "technically" IS Safari under the hood.
>> >
>> >
>> > No, it isn’t.
>> >
>> > "It’s here: Google replaces WebKit version ID with Blink in latest
>> > Chrome build”
>> > Apr 8, 2013
>> >
>> http://thenextweb.com/google/2013/04/08/its-here-google-
>> replaces-webkit-with-blink-in-latest-build-of-chrome/
>> > replaces-webkit-with-blink-in-latest-build-of-chrome/>
>> >
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Re: [css-d] iPad differences

[Tom Livingston]

I was speaking desktop vs desktop. I put little stock in emulators. Test on
as many devices as possible and be prepared to tweak as reports of issues
become known or to get at least a little closer to real, use browserstack
or similar who use official simulators from the manufacturers.



On Thursday, August 11, 2016, Crest Christopher 
wrote:

> It could be the same, remember Safari doesn't emulate based on iOS.
>
> Tom Livingston wrote:
>
>
> It most definitely is not the same.
>
>
>
> On Thursday, August 11, 2016, Crest Christopher
>    crestchristop...@gmail.com
> >> wrote:
>
> That is why I don't use Safari for testing, as I said; it's the
> same as
> using Chrome.
>
> Mi B wrote:
> >
> >>
> >> aug. 11 2016 07:38 Karl DeSaulniers  
> >:
> >>
> >> Chrome is built off of Gecko and Webkit anyway. Probably why you
> >> didn't see m uch difference.
> >> It "technically" IS Safari under the hood.
> >
> >
> > No, it isn’t.
> >
> > "It’s here: Google replaces WebKit version ID with Blink in latest
> > Chrome build”
> > Apr 8, 2013
> >
> http://thenextweb.com/google/2013/04/08/its-here-google-
> replaces-webkit-with-blink-in-latest-build-of-chrome/
>  replaces-webkit-with-blink-in-latest-build-of-chrome/>
> >
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Re: [css-d] iPad differences

[Crest Christopher]

It could be the same, remember Safari doesn't emulate based on iOS.

Tom Livingston wrote:
>
> It most definitely is not the same.
>
>
>
> On Thursday, August 11, 2016, Crest Christopher
> > wrote:
>
> That is why I don't use Safari for testing, as I said; it's the
> same as
> using Chrome.
>
> Mi B wrote:
> >
> >>
> >> aug. 11 2016 07:38 Karl DeSaulniers  >:
> >>
> >> Chrome is built off of Gecko and Webkit anyway. Probably why you
> >> didn't see much difference.
> >> It "technically" IS Safari under the hood.
> >
> >
> > No, it isn’t.
> >
> > "It’s here: Google replaces WebKit version ID with Blink in latest
> > Chrome build”
> > Apr 8, 2013
> >
>
> http://thenextweb.com/google/2013/04/08/its-here-google-replaces-webkit-with-blink-in-latest-build-of-chrome/
>
> 
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Re: [css-d] iPad differences

[Tom Livingston]

It most definitely is not the same.



On Thursday, August 11, 2016, Crest Christopher 
wrote:

> That is why I don't use Safari for testing, as I said; it's the same as
> using Chrome.
>
> Mi B wrote:
> >
> >>
> >> aug. 11 2016 07:38 Karl DeSaulniers  >:
> >>
> >> Chrome is built off of Gecko and Webkit anyway. Probably why you
> >> didn't see much difference.
> >> It "technically" IS Safari under the hood.
> >
> >
> > No, it isn’t.
> >
> > "It’s here: Google replaces WebKit version ID with Blink in latest
> > Chrome build”
> > Apr 8, 2013
> > http://thenextweb.com/google/2013/04/08/its-here-google-
> replaces-webkit-with-blink-in-latest-build-of-chrome/
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Re: [css-d] iPad differences

[Crest Christopher]

That is why I don't use Safari for testing, as I said; it's the same as
using Chrome. 

Mi B wrote:
>
>>
>> aug. 11 2016 07:38 Karl DeSaulniers :
>>
>> Chrome is built off of Gecko and Webkit anyway. Probably why you
>> didn't see much difference.
>> It "technically" IS Safari under the hood.
>
>
> No, it isn’t.
>
> "It’s here: Google replaces WebKit version ID with Blink in latest
> Chrome build”
> Apr 8, 2013
> http://thenextweb.com/google/2013/04/08/its-here-google-replaces-webkit-with-blink-in-latest-build-of-chrome/
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Re: [css-d] iPad differences

[Karl DeSaulniers]

Ah.. a slimline webkit. Good for google!
Thanks for that link MB.

Still based off of webkit though. Just not named webkit anymore.. lol
And a whole lot of dead wood removed from what I read here. They removed 4.5 
million lines of code!?
Bad Webkit.. bad!

http://www.zdnet.com/article/the-real-reason-why-google-forked-webkit/

Let the competition begin! :)

Best,

Karl DeSaulniers
Design Drumm
http://designdrumm.com




> On Aug 11, 2016, at 1:37 AM, Mi B  wrote:
> 
> 
>> aug. 11 2016 07:38 Karl DeSaulniers :
>> 
>> Chrome is built off of Gecko and Webkit anyway. Probably why you didn't see 
>> much difference. 
>> It "technically" IS Safari under the hood.
> 
> No, it isn’t. 
> 
> "It’s here: Google replaces WebKit version ID with Blink in latest Chrome 
> build”
> Apr 8, 2013
> http://thenextweb.com/google/2013/04/08/its-here-google-replaces-webkit-with-blink-in-latest-build-of-chrome/
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Re: [css-d] iPad differences

[Mi B]

> aug. 11 2016 08:37 skrev Mi B :
> 
> 
>> aug. 11 2016 07:38 Karl DeSaulniers > >:
>> 
>> Chrome is built off of Gecko and Webkit anyway. Probably why you didn't see 
>> much difference. 
>> It "technically" IS Safari under the hood.
> 
> No, it isn’t. 

Well, on the computers it isn’t. I forgot the context though (No coffee yet 
:P). On iOS it’s all Webkit. 

> 
> "It’s here: Google replaces WebKit version ID with Blink in latest Chrome 
> build”
> Apr 8, 2013
> http://thenextweb.com/google/2013/04/08/its-here-google-replaces-webkit-with-blink-in-latest-build-of-chrome/
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Re: [css-d] iPad differences

[Mi B]

> aug. 11 2016 07:38 Karl DeSaulniers :
> 
> Chrome is built off of Gecko and Webkit anyway. Probably why you didn't see 
> much difference. 
> It "technically" IS Safari under the hood.

No, it isn’t. 

"It’s here: Google replaces WebKit version ID with Blink in latest Chrome build”
Apr 8, 2013
http://thenextweb.com/google/2013/04/08/its-here-google-replaces-webkit-with-blink-in-latest-build-of-chrome/
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Re: [css-d] iPad differences

[Karl DeSaulniers]

Chrome is built off of Gecko and Webkit anyway. Probably why you didn't see 
much difference. 
It "technically" IS Safari under the hood.

As far as emulators go..
Makes sense to me to use Apple's web browser for testing for Apple devices. 
Makes sense to me to use Chrome for testing for Android devices, since Google 
created Android.
Makes sense to me to use IE for testing Windows Phone, since duh it's Windows 
Phone.
Makes sense to me to use FireFox for.. well.. FireFox and that is about it. lol

I have found that using the emulator created by the brand of device it is 
associated with will get you "closer" 
results to the actual device then using another browsers attempt at 
implementing emulation for a product they don't make.

I don't know, maybe it's just me.

Best,

Karl DeSaulniers
Design Drumm
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> On Aug 11, 2016, at 12:18 AM, Crest Christopher  
> wrote:
> 
> The last time I downloaded Safari for Windows, I didn't notice a
> difference with the emulated with Retina Devices in Chrome so I removed
> Safari.
> 
> Karl DeSaulniers wrote:
>> 
>> I have an iPhone still on iOS 7.
>> No iPad though.
>> 
>> @crest - you do know you can view inspect element of any iPhone or
>> iPad in safari desktop? safari also has a responsive design mode.
>> Works best for iPhone and iPad emulation I have found.
>> 
>> Best,
>> Karl
>> 
>> Sent from losPhone
>> 
>>> 
>>> On Aug 10, 2016, at 6:44 PM, Crest Christopher
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Philippe you have an actual iPad ?
>>> 
>>> Philippe Wittenbergh wrote:
 
> 
> On Aug 11, 2016, at 8:24 AM, Crest Christopher
>  wrote:
> 
> Although
> the simulator uses iOS 7.1.2 and since I know nothing of iOS, strictly
> Windows but from what may be possible is newer versions of iOS may have
> issues such as this fixed ?
 
 
 Latest iOS version is 9.3.x. Hard to say if your issue is real, a bug
 in an older version of iOS or something else.
 As always a link to the issue at hand would immensely facilitated the
 discussion.
 
 Philippe
 --
 Philippe Wittenbergh
 http://l-c-n.com/
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Re: [css-d] iPad differences

[Crest Christopher]

The last time I downloaded Safari for Windows, I didn't notice a
difference with the emulated with Retina Devices in Chrome so I removed
Safari.

Karl DeSaulniers wrote:
>
> I have an iPhone still on iOS 7.
> No iPad though.
>
> @crest - you do know you can view inspect element of any iPhone or
> iPad in safari desktop? safari also has a responsive design mode.
> Works best for iPhone and iPad emulation I have found.
>
> Best,
> Karl
>
> Sent from losPhone
>
>>
>> On Aug 10, 2016, at 6:44 PM, Crest Christopher
>>  wrote:
>>
>> Philippe you have an actual iPad ?
>>
>> Philippe Wittenbergh wrote:
>>>

 On Aug 11, 2016, at 8:24 AM, Crest Christopher
  wrote:

 Although
 the simulator uses iOS 7.1.2 and since I know nothing of iOS, strictly
 Windows but from what may be possible is newer versions of iOS may have
 issues such as this fixed ?
>>>
>>>
>>> Latest iOS version is 9.3.x. Hard to say if your issue is real, a bug
>>> in an older version of iOS or something else.
>>> As always a link to the issue at hand would immensely facilitated the
>>> discussion.
>>>
>>> Philippe
>>> --
>>> Philippe Wittenbergh
>>> http://l-c-n.com/
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Re: [css-d] iPad differences

[Karl DeSaulniers]

I have an iPhone still on iOS 7. 
No iPad though. 

@crest - you do know you can view inspect element of any iPhone or iPad in 
safari desktop? safari also has a responsive design mode. Works best for iPhone 
and iPad emulation I have found. 

Best,
Karl

Sent from losPhone

> On Aug 10, 2016, at 6:44 PM, Crest Christopher  
> wrote:
> 
> Philippe you have an actual iPad ?
> 
> Philippe Wittenbergh wrote:
>> 
>>> 
>>> On Aug 11, 2016, at 8:24 AM, Crest Christopher
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Although
>>> the simulator uses iOS 7.1.2 and since I know nothing of iOS, strictly
>>> Windows but from what may be possible is newer versions of iOS may have
>>> issues such as this fixed ?
>> 
>> 
>> Latest iOS version is 9.3.x. Hard to say if your issue is real, a bug
>> in an older version of iOS or something else.
>> As always a link to the issue at hand would immensely facilitated the
>> discussion.
>> 
>> Philippe
>> --
>> Philippe Wittenbergh
>> http://l-c-n.com/
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Re: [css-d] iPad differences

[Karl DeSaulniers]

Yes. Very aware. 
That was the top google search results I found using crests key words. Being 
that he has been asking about retina images in the past, I felt it was worth 
noting the pixel dimensions. 

Best,
Karl

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> On Aug 10, 2016, at 6:34 PM, Philippe Wittenbergh  wrote:
> 
> 
>> On Aug 11, 2016, at 3:23 AM, Karl DeSaulniers  wrote:
>> 
>> They are not the same resolution or size. 
>> 
>> The biggest difference between these tablets is screen density. 
>> The iPad mini's display is 7.9 inches diagonally, with 1024 x 768 resolution 
>> at 163 pixels per inch. 
>> The iPad with Retina display packs a punch — 9.7 inches, with 2048 x 1536 
>> resolution at 264 pixels per inch.
> 
> But those have absolutely no effect on CSS. Both devices have exactly the 
> same size as CSS is concerned 1024 by 768 CSS pixels (which as you know are 
> not the same as screen pixels).
> 
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Re: [css-d] iPad differences

[Crest Christopher]

Philippe you have an actual iPad ?

Philippe Wittenbergh wrote:
>
>>
>> On Aug 11, 2016, at 8:24 AM, Crest Christopher
>>  wrote:
>>
>> Although
>> the simulator uses iOS 7.1.2 and since I know nothing of iOS, strictly
>> Windows but from what may be possible is newer versions of iOS may have
>> issues such as this fixed ?
>
>
> Latest iOS version is 9.3.x. Hard to say if your issue is real, a bug
> in an older version of iOS or something else.
> As always a link to the issue at hand would immensely facilitated the
> discussion.
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Re: [css-d] iPad differences

[Philippe Wittenbergh]

> On Aug 11, 2016, at 3:23 AM, Karl DeSaulniers  wrote:
> 
> They are not the same resolution or size. 
> 
> The biggest difference between these tablets is screen density. 
> The iPad mini's display is 7.9 inches diagonally, with 1024 x 768 resolution 
> at 163 pixels per inch. 
> The iPad with Retina display packs a punch — 9.7 inches, with 2048 x 1536 
> resolution at 264 pixels per inch.

But those have absolutely no effect on CSS. Both devices have exactly the same 
size as CSS is concerned 1024 by 768 CSS pixels (which as you know are not the 
same as screen pixels).

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Re: [css-d] iPad differences

[Philippe Wittenbergh]

> On Aug 11, 2016, at 8:24 AM, Crest Christopher  
> wrote:
> 
> Although
> the simulator uses iOS 7.1.2 and since I know nothing of iOS, strictly
> Windows but from what may be possible is newer versions of iOS may have
> issues such as this fixed ?

Latest iOS version is 9.3.x. Hard to say if your issue is real, a bug in an 
older version of iOS or something else.
As always a link to the issue at hand would immensely facilitated the 
discussion.

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Re: [css-d] iPad differences

[Crest Christopher]

Unfortunately I have to rely on a emulator \ simulator that will mean
that I may once the page is online encounter issues that will have to be
fixed when those issues arise on whatever device that may be.

In the mean-time, the iPad I'm testing on has a 1024x768 resolution. 
Chrome device emulation shows the element in the position I desire,
while on the simulator the element is in the wrong position.   Although
the simulator uses iOS 7.1.2 and since I know nothing of iOS, strictly
Windows but from what may be possible is newer versions of iOS may have
issues such as this fixed ?

Philippe Wittenbergh wrote:
>
>>
>> On Aug 10, 2016, at 11:37 PM, Crest Christopher
>>  wrote:
>>
>> TheiPad & iPad mini are both the same CSS width but when previewing both
>> devices; the iPad Mini give me problems with one element. Shouldn't the
>> results be identical ?
>
>
> Are you testing with real world, physical devices? Or with some
> emulator / simulator kind of thing? The latter gives you at best an
> approximation of the real thing (assuming you use an emulation that
> uses the WebKit rendering engine).
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Re: [css-d] iPad differences

[Philippe Wittenbergh]

> On Aug 10, 2016, at 11:37 PM, Crest Christopher  
> wrote:
> 
> TheiPad & iPad mini are both the same CSS width but when previewing both
> devices; the iPad Mini give me problems with one element. Shouldn't the
> results be identical ?

Are you testing with real world, physical devices? Or with some emulator / 
simulator kind of thing? The latter gives you at best an approximation of the 
real thing (assuming you use an emulation that uses the WebKit rendering 
engine).

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Re: [css-d] iPad differences

[Crest Christopher]

You are referring to the iPad 3,4 & Air.  I meant the iPad 1,2. The iPad
Pro is the largest at 2048 width. I guess I'm going to target these
Apple devices with criteria other then device-width.

Karl DeSaulniers wrote:
>
> They are not the same resolution or size.
>
> The biggest difference between these tablets is screen density.
> The iPad mini's display is 7.9 inches diagonally, with 1024 x 768
> resolution at 163 pixels per inch.
> The iPad with Retina display packs a punch — 9.7 inches, with 2048 x
> 1536 resolution at 264 pixels per inch.
>
> HTH,
>
> Best,
>
> Karl DeSaulniers
> Design Drumm
> http://designdrumm.com
>
>
>
>
>>
>> On Aug 10, 2016, at 9:37 AM, Crest Christopher
>>  wrote:
>>
>> TheiPad & iPad mini are both the same CSS width but when previewing both
>> devices; the iPad Mini give me problems with one element. Shouldn't the
>> results be identical ?
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Re: [css-d] iPad differences

[Karl DeSaulniers]

They are not the same resolution or size. 

The biggest difference between these tablets is screen density. 
The iPad mini's display is 7.9 inches diagonally, with 1024 x 768 resolution at 
163 pixels per inch. 
The iPad with Retina display packs a punch — 9.7 inches, with 2048 x 1536 
resolution at 264 pixels per inch.

HTH,

Best,

Karl DeSaulniers
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> On Aug 10, 2016, at 9:37 AM, Crest Christopher  
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> TheiPad & iPad mini are both the same CSS width but when previewing both
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[css-d] iPad differences

[Crest Christopher]

TheiPad & iPad mini are both the same CSS width but when previewing both
devices; the iPad Mini give me problems with one element. Shouldn't the
results be identical ?
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