Re: [css-d] collapsing vertical margins

2007-07-29 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
Michael Leibson wrote: (With all the workarounds necessary for noncompliant browsers, are you really any further ahead than you were before CSS?) (definitely! I can create a bigger and more complex mess _with_ CSS, than anyone could do before CSS... :-) ) I've found that giving a box

Re: [css-d] collapsing vertical margins

2007-07-30 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
(definitely! I can create a bigger and more complex mess _with_ CSS, than anyone could do before CSS... :-) ) The humour helps! ; - ) Sometimes humor is all we can throw at weak and buggy browsers. The fact remains though: we can be much more creative with CSS than without it - even in

Re: [css-d] div height in IE6 smaller than FireFox

2007-08-01 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
Ian Young wrote: http://www.iyesolutions.co.uk/templates/trossachs/test.html Looks fine in compliant browsers but the heights are nowhere near matching up in IE6. 1: Add 'display: block' to all images that aren't supposed to be inline (default). That means all but a few arrows in the left

Re: [css-d] Float problem in IE

2007-08-01 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
bill scheider wrote: In IE, the box floats to the right but the text doesn't flow around it. http://tinyurl.com/3anvnc Delete the width on those paragraphs - at least for IE, as the width acts as a 'hasLayout' trigger, making each paragraph a rigid block in IE. There's no way around this

Re: [css-d] Zen Garden as a model and my printing issues

2007-08-01 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
Ling, Luke C wrote: . . . Would working in a web standards compliant way, lead me to the path of enlightenment when it comes to my end users being able to print my pages, stripped of graphics? Or do I really only require a simple print version for the CSS that will override all my web

Re: [css-d] css opacity

2007-08-01 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://free.of.pl/r/ramirez/x/rmz_test2.htm This works good in ff2, opera9 and even safari, but in ie6 and 7 the transparent box is misplaced. Could anyone help me to correct this css or propose a better solution? You forgot to even out browser defaults, and to

Re: [css-d] Pop-up menu with overlapping text

2007-08-02 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
Ivan Taylor wrote: http://passkeys.org/fl_articles/2007/fl337_what_is_the_moral_courage_workout.html In Firefox, the text displays correctly between the Menu and a News box on the right side. My problem involves IE and Opera users. In IE6 and Opera9.23 the display text overlaps the News

Re: [css-d] yet another ie problem

2007-08-03 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
JGardner wrote: http://webtech.tstc.edu/students/gardnerj/cns/index.htm The menu is really a little to large in Firefox and to small in IE. If you want the menu cross-browser and font-resizing stable, set width in pixels. There's plenty of space and short words, so fixed width won't create

Re: [css-d] P7 menu -- drops behind div

2007-08-05 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
Peggy Coats wrote: I'm having a problem with the P7 CSS menu on this page: http://ambientglow.com/garage/floorguy/Web/sample.html The drop-down menu (which only drops down on Your Floor Choices), seems to want to go behind the #content div. Layer the entire navigation on a higher level,

Re: [css-d] IE6 adds extra space before paragraph

2007-08-06 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
Seona Bellamy wrote: Can someone please have a look at http://www.dairyfarmers.com.au/df/ournews/latestnews/2007/07/25/from-rock---n-roll-to-rolling-hills in IE6 and tell me: a) are the first two lines indented slightly (a couple of pixels-worth) more than the rest of the article, Yes,

Re: [css-d] 3px IE bug with images

2007-08-07 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
Travis Killen wrote: Hi - I'm having some 3px bug in IE. The images are floated left, but are off by 3px, only in IE. I don't know which hack to use. http://936webdesign.com/env/ None. Just trigger 'standard mode' by adding a doctype to the document. !doctype ...will do just fine.

Re: [css-d] simple stop wrapping

2007-08-07 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
Amy Drayer wrote: I have an image floating to the left and an h4 and p/ul I want sitting next to it. Right now it's wrapping under the image if the paragraph or list is longer than the image. http://new.jocolibrary.org/research (need it quick box) Add... #needitquick div img

Re: [css-d] problem with opera and moved div

2007-08-08 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
Tomasz Tybusz wrote: I made a theme for php-nuke based on css and divs. This is sample page http://www.nsst.pl/wakacje/modules.php?name=ZClassifieds I have problem with Opera Browser. Other browsers like IE or Firefox display this page correctly. In Opera div named tres is moved on the

Re: [css-d] Site check Major blow out in IE6 and 7

2007-08-08 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
Terri Chicko wrote: Hi Friends I'm ready to pull my hair out. My new site works great in FF and mac programs, but it's really on the fritz with IE 7 and 6 www.hotniniz.com Before you start pulling your hair out, I'd advise a revision of the source-code. It's too messy at the moment to bother

Re: [css-d] Tables problem in a two columns layout.

2007-08-08 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
Ahmed Essam wrote: I'm making a two columns layout for my website... I face a problem in internet explorer when I used tables in the contents column (the right one) As the left column is floating to the left, the tables clears the right side of that column, although all other contents

Re: [css-d] Z-index problem in Internet Explorer

2007-08-08 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
Francois Jordaan wrote: http://www.fjordaan.net/tests/z-index.html It seems that position: relative puts an element higher than any absolutely positioned elements earlier in the DOM tree. Is there a solution for this problem in IE? Sure. Layer the relative positioned _container_ for the

Re: [css-d] image replacement techniques and CSS

2007-08-08 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
Michael Leibson wrote: I've a question about image replacement techniques and CSS. For details, please see: http://members.distributel.net/~leibson/Gilder-Levin.htm From the many well-written (and well-presented) web-sites on the subject, I'd gotten the impression that image replacement

Re: [css-d] IE6 spacing and white border issue

2007-08-09 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
Pat wrote: www.siteandsounddesign.com I've created my web site and it seem to work fine in Safari and Firefox but has a spacing issue in IE6 (surprise.) There is a space between two divs and I can't seem to figure out the cause. Also, if anyone knows how to eliminate the white border on the

Re: [css-d] My background disappeared!

2007-08-13 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
Amy Drayer wrote: http://new.jocolibrary.org/ I was trying to fix the position of the #content div in the #maincontent div so the light blue had equal pixels on the left and right (#content is the white area). It looks okay in IE6 (*sigh*), but in all other browsers the left is larger

Re: [css-d] problems with absolute positioned DIV in IE 6

2007-08-13 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
Christian Kirchhoff wrote: http://www.digitale-bibliothek.de/Maschinentechniker/METS2/index.htm Anyway the slider does not appear in IE 6. IE6 doesn't understand / support absolute positioning for opposite edges of an element, so 'bottom: 0' is simply ignored. Give IE6 a height and overflow

Re: [css-d] IE 7 issues, some fixed, some not

2007-08-14 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
Andy Mosmiller wrote: The site: http://www.kipke.com/ I have not figured out what is up with the blockquote not wrapping on the news page, nor have I ever had a bead on how to repair the semi-broken dashed borders wherever they may be. Any help? Are there any bugs I'm missing? For IE6

Re: [css-d] Safari 3 display:inline issue in standards mode

2007-08-15 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
Mark Richards wrote: [...] A minimal test-case with inline CSS is attached. The expected result is that all the elements are in a row on the right side of the screen. Attachments don't survive onto this list, so we need a link to an online example in order to debug those browsers. Not sure

Re: [css-d] Site Check and advice please!

2007-08-15 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
Mark Finney wrote: http://helpusmarry.co.uk/jessie/ Also comments on the CSS would be appreciated since I am just learning it. Non-valid nesting - paragraphs in links is no good.

Re: [css-d] IE6 Float right placement issue

2007-08-17 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
Christopher McComas wrote: I have the following code on a site, it displays properly in Firefox and IE7, but in IE6 it doesn't display the main content where it should be ... www.getherdnews.com/test.html IE6 is running out of space. The whitespace bug and the auto expansion bug are at play.

Re: [css-d] Please check menu with different browsers

2007-08-19 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
Terri Houston wrote: I've made a horizontal dropdown menu; you can see it at www.ttcollectiblegifts.com/dynamicdrive.html. I would really appreciate it if some of you would go there with different browsers to check it out, and let me know if it isn't looking good. All help is

Re: [css-d] Reposting: Absolute Floated Layout

2007-08-20 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
Elli Vizcaino wrote: http://www.nj.com/news/ The company I work for would like the content area (FEATURED STORY/ALL STORIES FROM [DATE]:) column to appear at the top of the HTML document, right after the body tag for SEO purposes. While still retaining the look of the current layout. As

Re: [css-d] IE6 and older float problem

2007-08-20 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
Lyn Williams wrote: I have a problem with floats when using IE 6 and older. http://www.ragonline.co.uk/news/story/8 Under certain conditions IE6 has problems with selectors like this... #maincontent.mainlayout { width: 679px; } ...but will work fine if given the following, simplified,

Re: [css-d] Footerstick, and transparent absolute background

2007-08-21 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
Arnold Gregory wrote: I am trying to combine the footer stick technique with faux columns and opacity on this page: http://sandboxv3.erau.edu/pr/0pr-dev/index.html Code borrowed from: http://www.themaninblue.com/writing/perspective/2005/08/29/ You haven't copied it properly - the #page

Re: [css-d] Floated Images disappear in IE6

2007-08-21 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
Scott Povlot wrote: I recently redesigned one of my websites. Now some images (floated right) are no longer showing on Internet Explorer 6 (IE6). I think this may be a box model issue. But the hacks I have tried haven't fixed it.

Re: [css-d] Floated Images disappear in IE6

2007-08-21 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
Scott Povlot wrote: Just wondering how you determined this (so that I can learn a little for next time). Sounds like I simple enough question, but I'm not sure if I can give you a good answer. The fact is: I see such 'stacking' bugs so often that I usually just apply one of a few normal

Re: [css-d] Content is being pushed outside container in FireFox

2007-08-21 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
Michael Stevens wrote: http://nancyray.accountsupport.com/ You can see the content outside of the page. Try adding... table#ads {clear: both;} regards Georg -- http://www.gunlaug.no __ css-discuss [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [css-d] IE Filters: valid or no?

2007-08-22 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
Rick Lecoat wrote: A real quickie here: Does the IE Filter property (eg. filter: alpha(opacity=50) validate under CSS 2.1? No. Would be even quicker to ask the validator directly though :-) http://jigsaw.w3.org/css-validator/ regards Georg -- http://www.gunlaug.no

Re: [css-d] Beginner layout suggestions?

2007-08-22 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
Allison Kelly wrote: http://www.skeetrbeatronline.com/testpage.html Does anyone have any suggestions of how to tackle this? I am a bit confused as to what the best practice would be here and what I can actually do with CSS, or if I will need to use some simple tables as well. No tables

Re: [css-d] 3-col liquid layout problems in ie 6 and 7

2007-08-23 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
Scott Demontluzin wrote: Hi list, This is my first post. Welcome. I have a three column liquid layout, http://www.scottdemontluzin.com/pelex.htm In ie 6 and 7 when i expand the window the right column drops under the left column and then will come back to the correct position. Does

Re: [css-d] css frames problem [2nd attempt]

2007-08-23 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
vwf wrote: My first posting may not have been clear. The problem is still there, so I give it another try. When I view my new CSS version using Firefox and Opera it looks as intended. On IE6 things go wrong (IE7 is reported to be OK). new: http://www.umantec.nl/test/producs.html For some

Re: [css-d] Beginner layout suggestions?

2007-08-23 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
Allison Kelly wrote: background: transparent url(test_07_082205_files/nav.jpg) 0 0 no-repeat;} I decided to do it the way you did it, in the cover-up way, as opposed to text-indent or the others. But in my perusing, I didn't see the transparent anywhere. What does that do specifically?

Re: [css-d] Request: Help with IE6 issues with :hover gallery

2007-08-23 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
J Hodge wrote: http://www.lostinxlation.net/sandbox2/gallery1a.html It works fine in IE7, FF2, Opera, and SafariPC, but fails to yield a large image on hover in IE6. An old IE bug: IE6 won't re-render the link and open up for the pop-up span, unless certain[1] property-values are changed on

Re: [css-d] positioning guidance

2007-08-25 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
JGardner wrote: I want three boxes lined up next to each other (the light blue boxes). http://www.jgardnerdesigns.com/ You're back to floats now, so you can use one of the equal height columns[1][2] solutions. I have used [1] in a copy of your page...

Re: [css-d] why does main content float to bottom in IE?

2007-08-27 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
H. Dean Hua wrote: ... main content floats to the bottom in IE. You're experiencing a few IE bugs. Two things: 1: the comment above the doctype keeps all versions of IE/win in quirks mode. Delete that comment - as it says - and things will improve. 2: too tight in IE/win in quirks mode, so you

Re: [css-d] typical cross-browser trouble

2007-08-27 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
j s wrote: http://www.jenstrickland.com/genericom/ What am I doing wrong with my tabs? The height varies from safari to firefox on the mac, and on win ie, it tends to be similar to firefox on the mac. I'm not sure what line-up you want, so I've given a copy of your page the corrections

Re: [css-d] Flexible width in IE.

2007-08-28 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
Richard Grevers wrote: http://www.wildcatcoffee.co.nz/template.html The layout is centered with a maximum width of 60ems. In addition, the body has a padding so that some of the body background always shows. The CMS template I used as a starting point uses a javascript to emulate

Re: [css-d] Firefox 2.0.0.6 printing issue

2007-08-28 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
Brian Walk wrote: www.niu.edu/phys_plant/departments/maintenance.shtml does anyone know if there has been a change in how Firefox interprets a print style sheet that might cause it to preview and output as I described above, and if so, can you suggest a remedy. Have no idea what they've

Re: [css-d] space under logo and left column height

2007-08-29 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
Cynthia Page wrote: I am working on a page and have been going round and round with the layout to get it browser compliant http://hoengerlab.colorado.edu/b3d/indexe.html This is one of those cases where I'd rather see standard compliant source-code first...

Re: [css-d] Links within UL not clickable

2007-08-30 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
Pete Harrison wrote: http://www.hhhconsulting.co.uk/dev/bedales/newsite/ click on the 'out team' link then look at the 5 white links starting 'Steve Richard' I can't do that in Firefox - see below. Other browsers do give me working links - at both levels, but I have no idea if they work

Re: [css-d] Site Check and advice please!

2007-09-01 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
Mark Finney wrote: Comments on the way i coded it and improvements/problems... particulary any cross browser issues as i have only tested FF, would be greatly appreciated... http://helpusmarry.co.uk/jessie/ Give the aboutme page a few steps up on font resizing in Firefox, and/or test with

Re: [css-d] inline element that could be sized ?

2007-09-02 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
Fabien Meghazi wrote: I would like to make a staring system that can be inline so it would look like this : Please rate this : * * * * * * [button] I'm trying to work with ul and li both display: inline but once the li are inline, I can't set a width for them. An unordered list (ul)

Re: [css-d] Center liquid thumbnail gallery div

2007-09-02 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
Scott Demontluzin wrote: http://www.scottdemontluzin.com/test/sdpaintings_1.htm I'm trying to center the #gallery div within the parent #main div and keep them both liquid. First: floats can not center, and auto-margins won't work on liquid elements. Inline-elements can be centered though.

Re: [css-d] different browsers

2007-09-03 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
Terri Houston wrote: www.ttcollectiblegifts.com/dynamicdrive.html I was told the menu was large, and I hope I've fixed it, but can't see it with IE6. All help is appreciated. There's nothing wrong in IE6 that isn't just as wrong in any other browser, so you can test in any of today's

Re: [css-d] IE6 float Bug?

2007-09-03 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
Scott Johnson wrote: http://datastream.irregulara.org/ As you can see, I've been experimenting with the YUI GridBuilder. (Weirdness #1: The YUI CSS doesn't seem to validate. The page validates, however.) Page renders properly in Firefox2 (Mac/Win), Safari, and IE7 (with a few tweaks) in

Re: [css-d] Website page needs css validation and cross-browser help

2007-09-03 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
Beth Lee wrote: http://www.callibeth.com/galleries/gallery1/evelyn.php The HTML validates, and the CSS validates except for two instances of this rule: * html div#__ { overflow-x:hidden; /* hide horizontal overflow in IE5.x - 6 */ } First, can I get a reminder hint as to why I

Re: [css-d] Help Me Obi Wan: Son of IE6 Float Problems

2007-09-03 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
Daniel Talsky wrote: This is an IE6 float problem. Works in everything else under the sun (FF 2.x, IE7, Opera, Safari, etc.) but the floats don't sit side by side in IE6. I assume this is some kind of auto-expand issue but nothing I've tried has been able to fix it. I should have

Re: [css-d] RahulGonsalves.Com // Site Check

2007-09-04 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
Rahul Gonsalves wrote: http://rahulgonsalves.com/ver3-b/ The gray background image seems to be shifted 1-pixel lower in Windows browsers (FF/Opera/IE6). They display fine on FF/Camino/ Safari on OS X. Any suggestions? Sorry, but you can't expect an element in the flow to hit an image on

Re: [css-d] VALIDATION PROBLEMS

2007-09-04 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
jane jordan wrote: When I try and validate the page containing the CSS I receive the following message :- Lexical error at line 1, column 3. Encountered: D (68), after : ! and no style sheet found You will get that message if you upload an HTML file to the CSS validator. The D is the

Re: [css-d] spacing lists on opposite sides of div

2007-09-04 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
Fiona wrote: www.babystars.com.au I have trying for hours to sort the alignment of two unordered lists inside a div but I must be missing something obvious. I can't seem to get the space above and below the text to be the same on FF and IE (vertically centered). Question: which unordered

Re: [css-d] Accessibility + font sizing

2007-09-04 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
Vicki Stebbins wrote: So if anyone has a few mins to give me some thoughts on any accessible CSS problems or things to think of and if someone can tell me if this logic is correct: In the CSS body{ font-size: 12px; } would translate through the styles as: div#container{

Re: [css-d] Accessibility + font sizing

2007-09-05 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
Vicki Stebbins wrote: Have you done any CSS aimed at braille readers? If so is there some 'gotcha' with this? I'm thinking % divs for the navigation and the layout is side nav so when the font resizes it can have more room to move? No, I haven't written CSS for braille. My friend who

Re: [css-d] Accessibility + font sizing

2007-09-05 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
tedd wrote: I've seen 100.1% stated -- is there any real advantage in doing that? That slightly larger than 100% value was used to fix a bug in a few old browser-versions - Opera amongst others IIRC. Through testing I haven't found the need to fix any bugs that way in any browser for the last

Re: [css-d] Are table-based layouts still needed

2007-09-05 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
E Michael Brandt wrote: http://www.badboy.ro/articles/2005-02-20/vertical_align_with_css/ Is there a good solution that works cross browser *without resorting to semantically meaningless nested divs* ? Divs are semantically neutral, which doesn't necessarily equate to meaningless when used to

Re: [css-d] Accessibility + font sizing

2007-09-05 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
tedd wrote: However, if one removes your graphic from your layout, then it's easily read. I think that allowing the user to see/read a graphic via scrolling is preferable than presenting something that they can't read at any zoom level. Don't you think? Yes, and I would give the user

Re: [css-d] Accessibility + font sizing

2007-09-05 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
Rick Lecoat wrote: On 5/9/07 (17:38) Rafael said: But I wonder, if you include a doctype (and your code is valid) how do you preserve the Quirks mode? It's my understanding that including a doctype minus the URL will permit this. I think you're referring to this...

Re: [css-d] Accessibility + font sizing

2007-09-05 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
tedd wrote: At 1:08 AM +0200 9/6/07, Gunlaug Sørtun wrote: However, since that particular page is one of my test pages where solutions are _supposed_ to be tested to breaking-point and far beyond, that image isn't there to be read. It is there to break solution - and browsers. OK, I

Re: [css-d] Accessibility + font sizing

2007-09-06 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
Allison Kelly wrote: I am wondering if anyone can help me with this font-size quirk. I have body {font-size: small;} and I use percentages for my h1, h2, h3 sizes, which is working everywhere I need it to (Firefox, IE7, IE6) except for one instance. When my IE6 browser is not maximized to

Re: [css-d] What the X is going on?

2007-09-07 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
Tigdh Glesain wrote: http://www.webdevout.net/articles/beware-of-xhtml#what_is_xhtml Since the quality of the mark-up is crucial for CSS to work, I have no problems discussing the issue here on css-d. However: the issue is about technical conformance and practical use (serving) of XHTML, so

Re: [css-d] What the X is going on?

2007-09-07 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
Rafael wrote: I wonder, do you have an example of validated XHTML markup that's not perfect? I.e. markup that, although validated, it's broken XHTML? Personally, it's all I do, validated as XHTML Strict (after all, that's why I'm writing). I don't have a list of valid but not working XHTML

Re: [css-d] Floating problem?

2007-09-07 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
trevor bayliss wrote: All the columns seem to have moved right for some reason. Why is this happening? How can I correct it? I am learning css so I would be interested to hear if I am approaching this from the right angle- two divs for example would it have been better as divs? TIA

Re: [css-d] Floating problem?

2007-09-08 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
trevor bayliss wrote: Hi all, Thanks a lot for those pointers George and Alan, I have implemented the solutions which work with Firefox but with IE the #contentinright div is dropped down and doesn`t seem to clear the #contentinleft div. http://216.219.94.105/about2.htm The #content div

Re: [css-d] Introduction site ridicule

2007-09-09 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
Kevin Stevens wrote: Hi! I've been lurking for a while now, I was introduced to this list by the gang at evolt. Welcome over :-) The site is now at a stage that, before I go any further, I would like some more knowledgeable people like yourselves to have a look at it and tell me what

Re: [css-d] Background color not showing

2007-09-09 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
Joanne wrote: http://www.melbournecostumehire.com.au/test/ In IE6 7, the background of this navigation is black. In Firefox Safari, only the hyperlinks are black background and when they finish, the background color of the rest of the #navigation div is showing as white. IE/win is

Re: [css-d] Still stuck, need any help.

2007-09-11 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
WEZ! wrote: http://www.newearthpermaculture.com.au/bm/BusMentorMenu23.htm I'm sure there is a way to achieve this outcome but with a variety of layout trials I still cant' crack it. Normally one can achieve what you're after by using one of the old 3-columns solution. Two basic

Re: [css-d] liquid 3col - header questions

2007-09-11 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
Ray Leventhal wrote: I'm developing a site based on the 'holy grail' 3col liquid layout [1]. http://devel.legionpost130.org/ I don't often speak up against a solution, but I'd advice you to stay as far away from the mentioned 'holy grail' as you possibly can. It is one of the least tested,

Re: [css-d] * in css

2007-09-11 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
Julian Tulip's Licorice wrote: I am wondering if anyone knows what the asterisks in the following CSS do: The asterisk is a universal selector - targeting any element. #mainNav, #secondaryContent { padding-top: 20px; padding-bottom: 20px; } Targeting #mainNav and #secondaryContent.

Re: [css-d] Type in px then ems

2007-09-11 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
Rick Lecoat wrote: I was just curious about whether pixels might become resizable if re- specced in a different unit deeper into object hierarchy, ie. if the em unit would override the px unit. You will make IE/win start resizing normally again if you use relative-size keywords on

Re: [css-d] Type in px then ems

2007-09-11 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
Jukka K. Korpela wrote: On Wed, 12 Sep 2007, Gunlaug Sørtun wrote: You will make IE/win start resizing normally again if you use relative-size keywords on elements/wrappers _after_ an absolute font-size value on body (or wherever the font-size further in is calculated from). Pardon

Re: [css-d] Type in px then ems

2007-09-11 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
Philippe Wittenbergh wrote: http://www.gunlaug.no/tos/moa_20a.html Works as advertised with IE 7. Surprise. I don't know whether to write it off as a bug or as a browser-specific feature. It is definitely an unexpected effect, as Jukka mentioned. Naughty Georg. :-) ( meow! ) I wouldn't

Re: [css-d] named anchors in IE

2007-09-12 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
Ross Hulford wrote: The problem is not that it uses 'id 'or 'name' but that it is empty. How do I use the haslayout property, like this? Does it validate? Your example will neither work nor validate. An empty element can be spaced out simply by adding 'width: (some value)' and 'height: (some

Re: [css-d] floated div overlapping problem

2007-09-12 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
Phil Turner wrote: Thanks Drew / Georg Using Margin - right has fixed the problem, I understand this Wrong doctype for use of target-attributes on links btw. Only allowed in Transitional (not Strict). However I dont know what to replace Parent with in the target - attributes or where

Re: [css-d] width question

2007-09-13 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
sandy wrote: http://www.westboundandweary.com/pca/support_pca/ my question is about the image and caption i sent an email about earlier. my goal is to make that caption fit the width of whatever size image happens to be displayed. You _can_ force down the width of a float to the

Re: [css-d] Problems with site template

2007-09-14 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
Rick Lecoat wrote: On 14/9/07 (12:28) [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: I can't make min-width work in I.E. 6, probably not in any others either ({can't check others} Works reasonably well in FF). DG; IE5/6 doesn't understand min-width. However, it treats width the same way as min-width, I

Re: [css-d] Easy way to replace table layout with css-layout?

2007-09-14 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
Magnus Fahlström wrote: Hi everybody. I'm trying to find an easy way to replace a table layout with a css-layout. There will be about 100 pages with a different number of rows on each page. These pages will be attached to a Dreamweaver template with navigation, logo and so on. Need more

Re: [css-d] switching text size

2007-09-14 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
David Dorward wrote: On 14/09/2007, Peggy Coats [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yes, we know that, but unfortunately a lot of people don't -- especially elderly folks who have vision issues and aren't as technology savvy ;-) Perhaps some nice simple illustrated instructions for changing the

Re: [css-d] Site check please

2007-09-14 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
Cory Shubert wrote: http://www.nwaworldvacations.com We tried to do a better job of CSS and moved into a more Web 2.0 vibe, at least that is what we were trying for. I am sure many will lament our use of tables still, but some habits die hard. I am curious to learn how we might have

Re: [css-d] Problems with site template

2007-09-14 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
Elli Vizcaino wrote: http://e7flux.com/index3.html http://e7flux.com/css/e7flux.css Can someone explain why it's working and basically if I just need to scrap the min-width properties I have in the CSS as it seems to me based on this discussion that it's unnecessary? My guess is that the

Re: [css-d] :: Opera/9.23 Mac ::

2007-09-15 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
David Laakso wrote: I have a little rendering mystery. Opera/9.23 Mac is not behave quite the same as Opera/9.23 Win on this page: http://www.chelseacreekstudio.com/ca/cssd/sm-chg/ I've shut down my iMac for a few days. Anyone else able to figure this out? Georg --

Re: [css-d] Some positioning dilemmas

2007-09-15 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
Robert Reed wrote: 1.) I tried to use the fixed width left column, fluid right column system as described at A List Apart, with negative margins. After I found out that the negative margins weren't doing anything, I removed them. The idea was to go with a fixed 220px column on the left, and

Re: [css-d] IE Font Size issue

2007-09-16 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
Jehangir Larry wrote: http://www.jehangirlarry.com/makhija/test.php When seen in FF/Opera/Safari (PC) the #header-sub (~Engineers Contractors~) appears as intended. In IE (all) - PC, it appears huge. Atleast here. The only way I can reproduce that is by checking IE's accessibility option

Re: [css-d] Easy way to replace table layout with css-layout?

2007-09-17 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
Magnus Fahlström wrote: I'm trying to achieve someting like this (the rows and columns that is): http://www.wiberger.se/templates/vred.htm Ok. This one is a perfect candidate for CSS table, but since no version of IE has the slightest support for the relevant part of CSS2/2.1, we'll have to

Re: [css-d] How to avoid tables, but layout a collection of DVDs etc

2007-09-17 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
Adam Ryan wrote: This is my first post Welcome :-) – it may help for to link to a (very basic) mock-site I designed for a Web Development subject I did last semester: http://redgum.bendigo.latrobe.edu.au/~aj2ryan/ Obviously a table layout is what I am considering, however I am

Re: [css-d] Text overflowing from divs

2007-09-17 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
Kevin Stevens wrote: What is the magic formula here? I'm still playing around with my new site, trying to test it to breaking point, and this is really bugging me. When I increase the text size several times, on my site (http://www.ratking.co.uk)it overflows the right hand div and gets lost

Re: [css-d] Does anyone see any future problems with this?

2007-09-18 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Just not sure if you can have absolute positioned div, within an absolute positioned div, and cause no problems. I can give you a general - and maybe confusing - answer. In itself you can have as many A:P (absolute positioned) elements nested in and positioned from

Re: [css-d] Div drops in firefox

2007-09-18 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
trevor bayliss wrote: Hi all I get a problem with the flash scroll div where my flash is it falls for some reason. I have tried clear both, display inline, and displayed block but it stays there. In IE it looks fine: http://www.villa-corti.com/text.html It stays fine in IE _only_ because

Re: [css-d] Need help with alignment in IE (huge white spaces), Firefox looks ok

2007-09-18 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
juliann wheeler wrote: I created an HTML newsletter in tables. Firefox is rendering it correctly, but in IE there is a large white space between the first paragraph and the title Representative PCGA Deals http://www.pcg-advisors.com/Newsletter/pcgnewsletter9_07_p2_is.html I have no idea

Re: [css-d] Double margin float bug revisited

2007-09-19 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
Peter Bex wrote: When you set a margin on a float, and then by using some javascript you change any of the positioning properties ('top', 'left' etc), the double margin float bug disappears in IE6. In IE7, the margin is _subtracted_ from the position, instead! I assume this is because

Re: [css-d] text leaders

2007-09-19 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
William M Conlon wrote: I would like to have solid color leader before some text: A few alternatives... http://www.gunlaug.no/tos/alien/test_07_091901.html regards Georg -- http://www.gunlaug.no __ css-discuss [EMAIL

Re: [css-d] text leaders

2007-09-20 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
Since William presented something to me [off-list] that doesn't work too well when subjected to font-resizing and not at all in IE6, I've taken the subject a bit further and dragged IE6 and IE7 - kicking and screaming - into the realm of CSS... http://www.gunlaug.no/tos/moa_23.html regards

Re: [css-d] hasLayout problem?

2007-09-20 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
Kenny Graham wrote: IE6 keeps dying horribly in a fire when it's resized on this page I'm working on... anyone know how to fix it? Please? :) http://www.trademarkads.org/brookhaven/site/ Basic fix: * html body { position: relative; } ...to make elements relate to body instead of

Re: [css-d] Em vs ex

2007-09-21 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
Rowan @ Jetboy wrote: Hi list, I'm looking to use em or ex units for elastic layout on a new site. mozillaZine (http://kb.mozillazine.org/Em_vs._ex) recommends ex's to avoid rounding errors (in Moz), but other sites make veiled references to ex problems with older browsers. Can anyone

Re: [css-d] menu test

2007-09-21 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
JGardner wrote: http://www.jgardnerdesigns.com/web-design-services.htm It seems like sometimes in IE 6 when you hover over the drop down links they disappear. Please let me know if this happens to you and if so what browser you are using. IE6 and IE7 can't stack absolute positioned

Re: [css-d] Em vs ex

2007-09-22 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
Philippe Wittenbergh wrote: Georg wrote: Have a look at this page across browser-land... http://www.gunlaug.no/tos/moa_17.html ...especially in Moz/Fx, and do some font-resizing. What do you consider 'wrong' in Gecko's behaviour ? (Safari/WebKit and Konqueror have exactly the same

Re: [css-d] Em vs ex - correction

2007-09-22 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
The following does of course *not* make sense... As it stands now I wouldn't consider 'ex' to be a practical alternative to 'ex' for element-sizing - in any browser under any circumstances. Corrected to... As it stands now I wouldn't consider 'ex' to be a practical alternative to 'em' for

Re: [css-d] 2 questions about the effects of changing text size

2007-09-22 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
Don Hinshaw wrote: http://dime77.dizinc.com/~somedom/geothermex/about-us.html Question 2: I would actually prefer to use html type instead of images there, but I could not think of a clever way to keep the words from disappearing when they got larger and pushed down over the white page

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