Re: [CTRL] United States.... A Communist Nation?

1999-01-04 Thread Jim Kinney
-Caveat Lector- I agree that there are serious problems with the American system. I agree.. the entire 'rich get richer / poor get poorer' problem that our nation has fallen into is a horrible state of affairs, as are the facts that the President can now put us into a war whenever he pleases by

Re: [CTRL] United States.... A Communist Nation?

1999-01-04 Thread Jim Kinney
-Caveat Lector- This kind of logic that brings us to: God is love Love is blind Stevie Wonder is blind Therefore Stevie Wonder is God I'm not arguing against the fact that much of America is controlled, deliberately or otherwise, by inflation, fe

Re: [CTRL] nurev learning about birth control pills

1998-12-31 Thread Jim Kinney
-Caveat Lector- I agree.. they SHOULD be looking for a better method, but until they find one, there is still the pill for those who choose it. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, December 30, 1998 8:05 PM

Re: [CTRL] nurev learning about birth control pills

1998-12-31 Thread Jim Kinney
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject:Re: [CTRL] nurev learning about birth control pills -Caveat Lector- On Wed, 30 Dec 1998, Jim Kinney wrote: >Huh? Most of the women I know who are on the pill have chosen to be on >it, not because thei

Re: [CTRL] nurev learning about birth control pills

1998-12-31 Thread Jim Kinney
-Caveat Lector- Probably that.. and that what woman would trust a man to take it regularly (heck, many of us still have trouble with that leaving the seat down thing). [for any of you who didn't catch that.. that was humor] I think that birth control for men hits many men in an ego spot.. that

Re: [CTRL] nurev learning about birth control pills

1998-12-31 Thread Jim Kinney
-Caveat Lector- And breaking the sound barrier is impossible too.. as are commercial airplanes and bumblebees. As to the gay population.. as far as I can tell they've always been there.. they are just demanding more human respect than they used to. -Original Message- Fr

Re: [CTRL] Brain Wave Paradigms

1998-12-31 Thread Jim Kinney
-Caveat Lector- I suppose that the Ayahuasca, Ibogaine, Psilocybin and such substances may have been helping transport the shaman's consciousness too The drum beat may have had a little less to do about it. :-) DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exch

Re: [CTRL] CHRISTMAS WISHES

1998-12-30 Thread Jim Kinney
-Caveat Lector- I've also seen shows pointing it out as a hoax.. It may or may not be true, but there is still a 'leap of faith' on whether or not you want to believe in it. -Original Message- From: E Mael [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, December 3

Re: [CTRL] nurev learning about birth control pills

1998-12-30 Thread Jim Kinney
-Caveat Lector- Huh? Most of the women I know who are on the pill have chosen to be on it, not because their 'man' has demanded it.. They see it as a personal choice that allows them to decide what happens to their bodies. I admit that there are risks involved n the pill.. the first generati

Re: [CTRL] WAGGING WAR

1998-12-28 Thread Jim Kinney
-Caveat Lector- The School of the America's.. no.. I forgot.. they took torture and overthrowing governments out of the curriculum. I think that your last few posts have been good Jerry.. thanks. -Original Message- From: Gerald Harp [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Se

[CTRL] We are at war: Ramadan

1998-12-17 Thread Jim Kinney
-Caveat Lector- I think a lot of it had to do with trying to attack and get it over with to avoid the Islamic Holy month of Ramadan which begins Sunday. We would have no allies in the Middle East (except Israel) if we attacked during Ramadan, and I don't think that we want to piss off Kuwait, S

Re: [CTRL] CIVIL RIGHTS FOR EVERY ONE

1998-12-16 Thread Jim Kinney
-Caveat Lector- Or we could just let them get married legally and limit benefits to those who do.. then we wouldn't have to change anything else. But then again.. I have gay friends who live in Columbus. I will write my local politicians.. and thank them. -Original Message-

Re: [CTRL] Benedict Arnold

1998-12-16 Thread Jim Kinney
-Caveat Lector- When was this? Which airport in Newark, Ohio? The air force base has been closed for a number of years and the only other airport is so small it is lucky to send up airplane rides on biplanes in the summertime (my parents live there). Just curious. -Original Messa

[CTRL] Decommissioned Government Base

1998-12-15 Thread Jim Kinney
-Caveat Lector- http://www.postfun.com/pfp/features/98/dec/atomic.html Just thought people might enjoy this description of one of the government's little hide-aways. DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informatio

Re: [CTRL] "Heads Up": Bill Clinton Is Finished

1998-12-14 Thread Jim Kinney
-Caveat Lector- (Parts of this are in reference to the message being responded to in the message quoted) Exactly which form of communism are you referring to? The failed authoritarian right-wing Russian and Chinese models or the idealistic left-wing view (I hate this whole Aristolean dualistic

Re: [CTRL] The Wonderful Wizard of Oz- Willy Wonka

1998-12-11 Thread Jim Kinney
-Caveat Lector- Interesting.. now someone needs to do a conspiracy view of "Charlie and the Chocolate Factory" Five children... Augustus: dresses in brown, falls into thick brown muck (earth) Violet: dresses in blue, fills with liquid (water) Veruca: dresses in red, is sent to the furnaces (fi

Re: [CTRL] Conspiracy Theories

1998-12-11 Thread Jim Kinney
-Caveat Lector- I agree, but let's make sure we label it then as speculation rather than fact. Phrases like 'I think', 'it seems' and 'I believe' are handy ways of pointing out where we jump off of facts and into speculation. I do agree though.. lets show every tidbit we find, but lets label t

Re: [CTRL] Conspiracy Theories

1998-12-11 Thread Jim Kinney
-Caveat Lector- I'm just as curious, as it is titled after the thread I started in which everyone has (so far) been rather understanding. It was probably about the 'intelligence' comment in the other posting that brought it on, but I didn't take that one too personally.. when you look at some o

Re: [CTRL] Conspiracy Theories

1998-12-11 Thread Jim Kinney
ca... The sacrificial king motif goes back to Egypt to the Osiris-Isis cult.. Osiris's body is dismembered in order to life to others...etc. The myth is embedded in the teachings of a number of secret societies.. Best wishes, Wm On Thu, 10 Dec 199

Re: [CTRL] Conspiracy Theories

1998-12-10 Thread Jim Kinney
-Caveat Lector- Maybe the PoS doesn't exist now except as a red herring.. (maybe). Maybe the Kennedy assassination hasn't been revealed because the one's who could do the revealing are the ones who did it. I'm not saying that this isn't possible, just that we need to work towards verifiability.

Re: [CTRL] Conspiracy Theories

1998-12-10 Thread Jim Kinney
-Caveat Lector- Moe, Larry or Curly? Seriously... thanks for the Golden Bough info. That is just the kind of info I was looking for. Now what 'occult' group is actually using this? I understood (inferred) that passage was referring to 'pagan' fertility festivals.. the May Queen and all that t

Re: [CTRL] Conspiracy Theories

1998-12-10 Thread Jim Kinney
-Caveat Lector- Thanks RoadsEnd for the info. I still think that there is a fairly significant amount of hooey in some of it, but I have to admit that much of it is fairly well documented. I'm not sure I buy a 'Luciferian' angle to it though. I'm also not sure that 'getting in early, sizing i

Re: [CTRL] Conspiracy Theories

1998-12-10 Thread Jim Kinney
-Caveat Lector- Mr. Caulfield (or do you go by 'Catcher?), Thanks for the Kennedy material. It was interesting Screwy But interesting. Ok, how many of you out there really think that Kennedy was killed as an occult conspiracy? Show of hands. How many of you out there think that ther

Re: [CTRL] Conspiracy Theories

1998-12-10 Thread Jim Kinney
-Caveat Lector- Linda Minor said: I research history wherever I go--local "good ol' boy" stuff. In Texas we call it "bidness." Look around you, Jim. This is what the real conspiracy is all about--making money for the wife and kiddies and in the process maybe becoming a

Re: [CTRL] Conspiracy Theories

1998-12-10 Thread Jim Kinney
-Caveat Lector- My point in the earlier message was not to decrease the amount of discussion or debate used around here, but to put the debate onto a more sound reasoning. If you wish to claim that ALL Masons are part of a huge conspiracy, then I would like to say that I have Mason frie

[CTRL] Conspiracy Theories

1998-12-09 Thread Jim Kinney
-Caveat Lector- I have to admit that by reading this list I have become a little bit frightened.. not by the theorized conspiracies or black-ops that are constantly being reported, but by the frightening level of bad reasoning used on all sides here.. In debate there is something called a "fall