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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Ahhh, Michael Moore. I grew up basically around the corner from him in the Flint area and can tell you we are all amazed at the coverage he has gotten. Essentially, he was and is a very rude, ego-centric power monger. He tries to win arguements through verbal intimidation, basically of the school ground variety, the same thing he has always done. If you don't think the way he wants you to, you must be a moron and are open to any form of public humiliation he can dream up. Let's look at this bit of drivel and see whether this is a fact driven argument, or opportunity to name call and get himself a little play...... ""1. There is virtually NO ONE in America (talk radio nutters and Fox News aside) who is gung-ho to go to war. Trust me on this one."" 74% according to last nights news do support this, and in Atlanta, the support demonstration outnumbered the anti bush protesters. ""Why? 'Cause NO Iraqis have ever come here and killed any of us! No Iraqi has even threatened to do that."" Hmm, do we ONLY think that a fight is necessary if a knife is held to each of our throats on our own soil? How many of us did Hitler kill on our soil before we declared war? none. And the Iraqis have not threatened to bring this fight to us on our soil, they have promised to do so on multiple occasions. 2. The majority of Americans -- the ones who never elected you.. Get over it Michael, they counted those votes every way the oppostion thought they might have an advantage and still couldn't make 4 become 1. ""the stock market having become a cruel joke, no one knowing if their retirement funds are going to be there, gas now costs almost two dollars "" A little change of subjects, normal for Michael, revealing his true agenda. This is an attack on bush, not a cry for peace. Of course, the stock market is rebounding strongly now, and gas here dropped between 16 and 22 cents per gallon this week. ""3. As Bill Maher said last week, how bad do you have to suck to lose a popularity contest with Saddam Hussein? The whole world is against you, Mr. Bush. Count your fellow Americans among them."" A quote from a comedic monologue from the only man in media to lose his show over attacking the President offered here as if it were an impartial nugget of truth from a valid source. ""4. The Pope has said this war is wrong, that it is a SIN. The Pope!"" Duhhh, Michael, what does he expect the pope to say about war????? ""5. Of the 535 members of Congress, only ONE (Sen. Johnson of South Dakota) has an enlisted son or daughter in the armed forces! "" Traditionally, the military is not overflowing with the children of the rich and powerful, Michael. None of the children of congress and Senate went to Kosovo for Clinton, but Michael didn't care about that. I don't think he realizes that this whole portion of his arguement is valid if we are drafting, but right now, we have a volunteer army, comprised of men and women far better educated than at any time in our history. 96% possessing either a high school or college degree. They made informed decisions and chose the risk when they joined. ""6. Finally, we love France ... have you forgotten we wouldn't even have this country known as America if it weren't for the French? That it was their help in the Revolutionary War that won it for us? "" Possibly, but the French did not join sides with us technically and never saw this as the fight for American independence. They made small loans of weapons and cash so we would be able to make trouble for the Brits and draw attention away from other areas the French were interested in to the south, and buy time until they could attack to regain the lost territory of the French and Indian wars. They voted to not get involved, but Lafayette chose independantly to come to America and funded personally the initial involvement here. Then the French declared war on England and pitched in with us with the understanding they would get choice of land. ""That our greatest thinkers and founding fathers -- Thomas Jefferson, Ben Franklin, etc. -- spent many years in Paris where they refined the concepts that lead to our Declaration of Independence and our Constitution? "" Franklin and Jefferson got their ideas from many sources, with Voltaire being the lone Frenchman with a great deal of influence in their later work. The French, built their own revolution and subsequent documents on the back of ours, not the other way around. ""Your ignorance of the world has not only made you look stupid, it has painted you into a corner you can't get out of."" Another bit of name calling from the childish Mr. Moore. He wrapped it up with a sarcastic paragraph of namecalling, which I need not repeat, and another intimation that we are just after oil, etc. etc. his usual pandering to the extreme left. Why he is not a bit critical of the French an their 60 billion dollar oil agreement with Saddam that is fading away, or their sale of the components to make chemical weapons, or last weeks parts sale of fighter bomber parts and helicopter parts to the Iraqi military is beyond me. ------- End of forwarded message ------- <A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/";>www.ctrl.org</A> DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER ========== CTRL is a discussion & informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substance—not soap-boxing—please! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'—with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright frauds—is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. 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