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I'm just a teeny bit sceptical that either 'webfairy' or 'James Bartley' have a grasp of the English language let alone knowledgeable info about some complicated web of intrigue about an English Royal Conspiracy, where if, one domino in the intricately muddied array is toppled, the whole conspiracy shebang falls over.
 
Were all American and British Liberals and Communists Stalinists because they believed in particular Socialist ideals? Were all Germans Nazis? Were all Royals Nazis because of some contaminated 'bloodline' theory? Guilt by some distant association and contamination by blood(line) is what this article seems to imply.
 
Further, Zion in any literate and literary sense, became a metaphor for the reproduction of the society of heaven upon earth -- Augustine's utopian "City of God" is a classic work on that theme. Most cultures developed a similar lore. Even the US was seen at its foundation as the immergence of the "New Zion".
 
The 'webfairy' flutters, "Whereever Ickies says "shapeshifting lizards" I mentally replace it with "demonically posessed" and everything reads just fine."
 
Well that does it 'just fine' for me too -- how about everyone else?
 
It completely takes it out of the irrational, inane, crude, banal, fictional, scapegoating-crock arena, into the realm of the demonstrable, scientific, sane, rational and factual, where we can all clearly and absolutely define which people are evil because we can prove that they are "demonically posessed (sic)". I like that idea, it means i don't have to do any thinking, just say the magic words you're "demonically posessed (sic)" and bobs-your-uncle!
 
Given the Press' insatiable appetite for right Royal misdemeanours, the worst they have shown is that the toffee Royals are just all too bloody human like the rest of us.
 
It's just that they have a lot of accumulated power and wealth that we would like get hold of or take it away from them so that they are even more 'human' like 'us' -- since we essentially define such terms from the splintered view of our own limited reality.
 
For people like David Icke and 'webfairy' to demonise individuals in terms of 'reptilian' or parasitic 'blood-suckers,' is perhaps more an indicator of their own personality projected onto others rather than anything to the contrary.
 
One feels far more of a chill in the blood when reading the psychotic, demonising rants of people like David Icke and his Icke-ite acolytes, than about the oft foolish and oft deliriously amusing public exploits and personal foibles of the Royal toffs.
 
Dave.
 
 
 
----- Original Message -----
From: "The Webfairy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Thursday, March 13, 2003 11:28 AM
Subject: [CIA-DRUGS] Hitler's Nazis and the British Royal Family

> -Caveat Lector-
>
> Since David Ickies is under persecution by Richard "Truth is No Defense"
> Warman,
> David Ickies website has been elevated to my list of "Least Likely to Be
> Compromised" sources, which is a very short list.
> Warman gets sicced on folks who make the Big Guys nervous.
> Whereever Ickies says "shapeshifting lizards" I mentally replace it with
> "demonically posessed" and everything reads just fine.
>
> I am starting to think the word "Royal" itself refers to the Templar
> Crown of Sion, and not any particular nationality.
>
> It is the Templar Crown who's overarching obsession has been Israel and
> the restoration of the Second Temple, and the Templar Crown with
> Soverignty above British Law right in the heart of London. It is the
> Templar Crown for which the IRS collects taxes, the reason for the
> accursed Gold Fringe on judicical flags, and the true owner and
> controller of Israel.
>
> Sion, aka Zion, represents the remnant of an ancient religion that
> practiced human sacrifice as necromancy and considered incest and
> pedophilia normal. Evidence of practice of this religion is visable
> whereever you find catacombs. These were their ritual chambers. One of
> their signs was the fish, but this is connected not to early christians,
> but as a mark of their ancient fish god who reappears as Neptune.
>
>
> FASCINATING CONNECTIONS BETWEEN
> HITLER'S NAZIS AND
> THE BRITISH ROYAL FAMILY
>
> By James Bartley
>
> David,
>
> Congratulations on your new book! A local bookstore which specializes in
> "non-conformist" literature has already sold out Children of the Matrix.
> They had to put in another order because the demand is so great.
>
> I just wanted to give my two cents worth as far as the Duke of Windsor's
> connection to the Third Reich is concerned. It is a truly tangled web
> but in a nutshell here is what happened.
>
> Edward was originally the Prince of Wales and was the heir apparent to
> the British Throne.
>
> I can't remember Edward's EXACT quote but the following is an
> approximation thats very close to the original; "Every drop of blood
> that courses through my veins is German!"
>
> Prince Edward made no secret of his pro-nazi sympathies and this as you
> know, was quite an embarrassment to first the Chamberlain Goverment and
> then the Churchill Government.
>
> Prince Edward wanted to marry the american Wallis Simpson but was
> refused permission by the Royal Family so he decided to abdicate and
> changed his title to the Duke of Windsor and despite the opposition of
> the Royal Family, bestowed the title of The Duchess of Windsor to his
> erstwhile bride, the former Miss Simpson..
>
> MI5 had already intercepted correspondence between the Duke of Windsor
> and his germanic cousins, the Prince of Hesse and the Prince of Coburg
> Saxe-Gotha which was prima facie evidence of his intended betrayal of
> Great Britain.
>
> The Duchess of Windsor meanwhile was in contact with Hitler's foreign
> minister Ribbentrop, a fact that was likewise known by MI5.
>
> Hitler made no secret of his admiration for British (as exposed to
> merely "English) Institutions and the British Royal Family and Empire.
> After all, prior to World War I, the Queen of England routinely referred
> to Kaiser Wilhelm as "Cousin Willie" in their correspondence.
>
> Sir Stewart Menzies, the legendary "C" or Chief of SIS aka MI6 reminded
> his old classmates who were in the German military or aristocracy to
> adhere to a certain code of conduct because they were after all, "OLD
> ETONIANS" like Menzies. The "Old Boy Network" in action again.
>
> So the links with the Third Reich were well established never mind the
> interlocking industrial cartels and financial houses.
>
> To complicate matters, The Duke of Windsor was commissioned as a General
> in the British Army so not only was his correspondence to his germanic
> cousins Treasonous from the standpoint of the British Government but
> doubly treasonous because he was an officer of high rank. Winston
> Churchill reminded him that not only was the Duke of Windsor a member fo
> the Royal Family but also a General in the British Army and needed to
> stop all of his questionable behaviour.
>
> The Duke and the Duchess of Windsor fled to Lisbon Portugal where they
> renewed acquaintances with their Nazi contacts. The Duke and Duchess
> were already being groomed by Hitler and his cronies as the Pretenders
> to the British Throne should Germany ever succeed in invading and
> conquering England, an idea that was also in consonance with the views
> of the Duke himself.
>
> It is unclear where the idea originated but It was decided by Heinrich
> Himmler that an attempt should be made to kidnap the Duke and Duchess of
> Windsor whilst the latter were in Lisbon Portugal and bring them back to
> Germany. This onerous task was given to Himmler's protege, SS
> Brigadefuhrer Walter Schellenberg. Schellenberg was the chief of the
> Sicherheitsdients or SD which was the Foreign Intelligence & Internal
> Security Service of the Nazi Party. This plan came to nothing because
> MI6 got wind of the scheme and POISONED Schellenberg.
>
> To his dying day a few years after the war Schellenberg insisted he was
> poisoned by the British Secret Service. Indeed Schellenberg attributed
> his impending untimely death to being poisoned.
>
> Because of his rank as a General, the Duke of Windsor was ORDERED to go
> to the Bahamas where he would be given the rank of governor general of
> the Islands and in theory, out of sight and out of mind and supposedly
> less troublesome. Nevertheless he still maintained links with Nazi
> agents as governor general, a fact that was known to both MI5 and MI6.
>
> Shortly thereafter there followed the mysterious flight of Rudolf Hess,
> the Deputy Fuhrer of the Third Reich and the number two man behind Adolf
> Hitler in the Nazi Regime, to Scotland.
>
> Upon safely parachuting into Scotland, Hess insisted on a meeting with
> the Duke of Hamilton who lived nearby and who was also regarded by some
> as being a Nazi sympathizer. Hamilton alerted the permanent
> undersecretary of the Foreign Office Alexander Cadogan who in turn
> advised Sir Stewart Menzies, the "C" of MI6. The detainment and
> interrogation of Rudolf Hess was conducted by two of Menzies officers,
> both of whom were senior members of Section V of MI6 which dealt with
> counterespionage.
>
> This was a curiousity since Hess landed in Scotland. The detainment and
> debriefing of Hess should properly have been conducted by MI5 which of
> course, is responsible for Internal Security and Counter-espionage
> within the UK and Gibralter and not by MI6.
>
> Thats just one curiosity. Stewart Menzies severely restricted access to
> Rudolf Hess during this time and throughout the war years. During his
> debriefing, Hess claimed that Hitler was ready to come to terms with
> Great Britain and effect a Peace Treaty after which Hitler will turn his
> attention eastward to deal with Bolshevist Russia (the latter bought and
> paid for by Wall Street and the City of London of course.) Hess had
> mentioned Hitler's and Ribbentrops previous overtures to the Duke of
> Windsor via the Princes of Hesse and Coburg-Sax Gotha.
>
> In a further twist, TWO MORE SD Agents parachuted into Scotland and were
> arrested AND UNLIKE HESS, WERE PROMPTLY EXECUTED. UPON THEIR PERSONS
> WERE FOUND A MAP WITH A CIRCLE DRAWN AROUND THE ESTATE OF THE DUKE OF
> HAMILTON.
>
> Hess was placed in custody and eventually wound up a defendant in the
> Nuremburg Trials after the war in Europe was concluded. Hess was
> sentenced to imprisonment at Spandau Prison. Again its gets even
> stranger.
>
> The family members of Rudolf Hess INSISTED that the man who was on trial
> in Nuremburg seemed to be under mind control and indeed THAT HE WAS NOT
> RUDOLF HESS. HESS' FAMILY WERE CONVINCED THE MAN WHO STOOD TRIAL IN
> NUREMBURG AND WAS EVENTUALLY IMPRISONED IN SPANDAU PRISON WAS A DOUBLE
> AND NOT THE REAL RUDOLF HESS!
>
> "Hess" later "committed suicide" by hanging himself in Spandau Prison.
>
> It is a historical fact that General Donovan had sent in a doctor to
> examine "HESS" in his prison cell prior to the Nuremburg Trials and
> there is no telling what was done to Hess during this "doctor's" visit.
>
> Contrary to popular belief Donovan did not begin his association with
> British Intelligence in 1940 as a personal representative of President
> Roosevelt. Donovan was a member of "The Room" a pre-war secret gathering
> in New York City which met at an apartment in New York City at 34 East
> 62nd St. Other members of the "THE ROOM" were Vincent Astor, Kermit
> Roosevelt, David Bruce (son of a U.S. Senator, husband of the daughter
> of Billionaire Andrew Mellon and himself a future chief of the London
> Station of OSS during World War II) and other high powered
> industrialist, financiers and corporate attorneys.
>
> "THE ROOM" served as an informal Intelligence and Finance Cabal that
> later merged with "The Walrus Club" also based in New York City. "The
> Room" and "The Walrus Club" linked with similar "Gentlemen's Clubs" in
> London England such as the "Ends of the Earth Club" which was frequented
> among others by Sir Stewart Menzies.
>
> It was in such "Gentlemen's Clubs" that the fates of MILLIONS worldwide
> were decided over glasses of fine Port and excellent Scotch.
>
> In a supreme twist of fate, the man who moved into to fill the power
> vacuum as the Deputy Fuhrer of the Third Reich after Hess' flight to
> Scotland was one Martin Borman who was a Soviet Agent.
>
> After the war, a priority for the British Royal Family was to obtain ALL
> THE INCRIMINATING CORRESPONDENCE between the Duke and Duchess of Windsor
> and the Duke's germanic cousins in Germany. To that end, MI5 Officer
> Anthony Blunt (a soviet double agent personally recruited by Lord Victor
> Rothschild also of MI5) was sent to Germany, armed with a personal
> letter from King George VI, asking his germanic cousins the Princes of
> Hesse and Gotha-Saxe Coburg to provide ALL assistance to Anthony Blunt.
>
> Later, when SIR Anthony Blunt, by then Director of the Courtald Art
> Institute and Surveyor of the Kings Pictures and intimate of the Royal
> Court was exposed as a soviet agent, he received immunity from
> prosecution because of his knowledge of his secret postwar mission to
> obtain the incriminating letters between the Duke of Windsor and his
> germanic cousins. Indeed, the Royal Family advised MI5 that it could
> interrogate Blunt about anything EXCEPT his top secret postwar mission
> to Germany.
>
> Anthony Blunt was a member of a secret society in Cambridge known as
> "The Apostles."
>
> Fellow Apostles included J.B.S. Haldane, The economist Jonathan Maynard
> Keynes, Guy Burgess and Victor Rothschild to name a few. Victor
> Rothschild personally recruited Anthony Blunt into MI5.
>
> Prior to his involvement in MI5, Lord Rothschild had a most unusual
> hobby. He performed genetic experiments on FROGS!
>
> I'm looking forward to reading your book David. Hope all is well with
> you.
>
> Best Regards
> James Bartley
>
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