-Caveat Lector-
This is an alternative view from David Ickes newsletter producer who
knows a bit about it.
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Subject: Re: Shape Shifting
Date: Fri, 08 Oct 1999 10:28:13 -0500
From: texians1st <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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To: Nicola Molloy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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I have more than enough evidence against Ivan Fraser...
Can one believe this article based on some one dowsing his television or
box or vCR?
I demand and want proof which entity was giving him the answers!..
Are we to believe that David Icke only interviewed AW for 2 hours!
The Video tape is about 2 hours... So David rushed from England to the
US with Video and sound crews met AW for the 1st time on the video tape!
Not likely! Only an utter fool would assume something like this - as
does Ivan!
"In fact I am shocked that David does not see this as a possibility
himself."
How the hell would the nobody named Ivan know this for a fact and
publish this? This is slander and libel... HE could not possibly know
what Does or Does not see or know or do, ... since David refuses to talk
to this person.
This Ivan character has NEVER met or talked to Arizona Wilder... so how
much of this so-called investigation can be relied on? What
investigation? HIs boob tube dowsing?
"I also know a genuine multiple who HAS performed satanic ritual called
Patti..." Patti who? Where's this Patti? The world wants to know what
possible connections and authority the Patti is! Are we to beleive on
Ivan's word that Patti is telling the truth? or that she even exists?
Did Ivan make her up out of the dowsing system?
"I also emailed Cathy O'Brien and Mark Philips for a comment from them,
but got no response." Do you see a trend here? David and Arizona gave
Ivan no response either!
"She agreed I may be right and said that David has to face his own
mistakes and defend himself in his own way." Looks to me like a nice
professional 'BRUSH OFF" by David's wife....
"I showed Patti. She called the video, 'A piece of shit.' But granted,
she may not be considered the ideal judge." Who is Patti!? The dowsing
ghost? A figment of a demented mind? IS she lying? Does she exist?
What control has she placed over Ivan?
"On this very powerful day, he had people all over the world sending
thought
energy based upon the most horrific images of blood-spattered tombs and
child sacrifice, DIRECTED AT PERHAPS THE MOST POWERFUL ENERGY POINT IN
THE WORLD!" Hmmmm, most every authority I have ever read states the
'evil side' feeds on NEGATIVE VIBRATIONS.. and David advocated POSITIVE
VIBRATIONS.... Ivan is the only one putting out these NEGATIVE VIBS
here!
Fraser is a nurse... Desborough is a doctor... Who has the credentials?
Patti? whose Patti?
Ivan Fraser was banned for making sexual allegations and innuendoes
against Arizona Wilder.. Nothing more...Allegations and innuendoes that
he could not support nor provide evidence of ...
David Icke won't talk to Ivan...
Arizona Wilder won't talk to Ivan...
Brian Desborough won't talk to Ivan...
by his own words Cathy O'Brien won't reply to Ivan...
by his own words Mark Phillips won't reply to Ivan...
only Patti the friendly ghost?
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