====== From: UFOTruth - http://UFOTruth.listbot.com I would like to confirm some of Item 6 in this memo.."SDI" In early November 1998 I spoke by phone to Dr. Robert Jacobs, now an Assoc. Prof. of Communications at a prestigious University, about the 1964 VandenBerg Incident which he was a witness to as far as the film taken. He was then a lieutenant in charge of the 1369th Photo Optical Instrumentation Team assigned by SAC to film a prototype anti-missile missle test on approx. 9/15/64, using the most powerful military telescope ever built up to that time. He confirmed to me that he was ordered to see the test film his staff had taken a day previous (he'd not seen it up to that time) He , in the presence of Major Florenz Mansmann, and two or three apparent civilian intelligence-types who did not speak, watched a "classic" flying saucer enter the picture when tne dummy warhead had finally separated from its two stages. The UFO "beamed' something at the warhead several times, circling the warhead while doing so, causing the warhead tio fall dead into the Pacific. Retired Major Mansmann, now unable to speak due to a throat cancer operation causing larynx removal, has confirmed in writing to researcher Robert Hastings the account claimed by then-Lieut. Jacobs.In 1964, Mansmann had officially covered up the incident, warning Jacobs of the severity of a security breach , etc. Jacobs , after leaving the Air Force , checked out the incident through the FOIA and learned the event, his service records, any proof of the new "BU" telescope etc. had been literally wiped out by the USAF, but subsequent independent research confirmed all the corroboration Jacobs sought. Jacobs stated the civilian "observers" confiscated the film, spliced out the UFO portion, and returned the film to Mansmann. In expurgated form it was later viewed by a former Jacobs staff member who said he saw nothing extraordinary in it. In a subsequent report of the Incident written for the MUFON Journal in 1989, Dr. Jacobs speculates, among other conclusions , that the gov't. may have been "warned" in advance the disabling action on the warhead would occur, given the urgency of the test at the time. He also excoriated, in a separate report a certain UFO "debunker" for the harsh treatment given the truthful account offered. I made up a three page report of our 11/98 phone conversation and presented it to my Waldwick NJ lecture audience on 11/18/98, having been told by Dr. Jacobs I could "quote him" on these matters. Thank You. Bob Van ________ EcoNews Service - Alternative News: Ecology, Consciousness & Universe Politics mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] USA http://www.ecologynews.com/index2.html CZECH http://mujweb.cz/www/ecologynews/ UK http://members.tripod.co.uk/ecologynews/ Canada http://www.ecologynews.com/index2.html <A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/">www.ctrl.org</A> DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER ========== CTRL is a discussion & informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substance—not soap-boxing—please! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'—with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright frauds—is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. ======================================================================== Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html <A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html">Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]</A> http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ <A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/">ctrl</A> ======================================================================== To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om