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What a romantic you are, Hugh! What's that line of M. Johnson's about the
only right is might??
Barb
At 11:18 AM 12/22/98 -0600, Hugh wrote:
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>
>As far as "native populations" go, since I'm Native American, I find it
>odd that European Americans assume that w
y history are destined to repeat it."
A<>E<>R
The only real voyage of discovery consists not in seeking new landscapes
but in having new eyes. -Marcel Proust
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: From: William Hugh Tunstall <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
: To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
: Subject: Re: [C
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In a message dated 98-12-22 12:18:44 EST, William Hugh Tunstall writes:
<< As far as "native populations" go, since I'm Native American, I find it
odd that European Americans assume that we needed YOU to give us our
rights to begin with. How glorious The land was initial
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Ka,
Slavery was NOT a side issue. Of course, Beard's thesis about economics
playing a determining factor is important... And, yes, states rights
played a minor role... but the issue of slavery was something that had to
be resolved. On that issue, there was no room for compr
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As far as "native populations" go, since I'm Native American, I find it
odd that European Americans assume that we needed YOU to give us our
rights to begin with. How glorious The land was initially ours...we
had our own religion...our own concepts of political and property
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The concept of liberty was later extended to women, blacks and other
minorities...but for years the Constitution was interpreted in such a way
that the liberty of some of us (who now enjoy it today) was consistently
and flagrantly denied.
Britain outlawed slavery BEFORE the Unit
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On Sat, 19 Dec 1998, Gerald Harp wrote:
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> In a message dated 12/19/98 12:15:00 AM Eastern Standard Time,
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
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> >
> > No, the Civil War was about States' Rights...slavery was a side issue,
> > and Lincoln did NOT support the Union
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In a message dated 12/19/98 11:43:11 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
writes:
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> In a message dated 12/19/98 12:15:00 AM Eastern Standard Time,
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
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> >
> > No, the Civil War was about States' Rights...slavery was a side issue,
> > and
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In a message dated 12/19/98 12:15:00 AM Eastern Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
>
> No, the Civil War was about States' Rights...slavery was a side issue,
> and Lincoln did NOT support the Union coming out with a diffinitive
> statement against slavery...
>
Slavery
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Date: Saturday, December 19, 1998 5:56 AM
Subject: Re: [CTRL] A Kinder, Gentler Lynch Mob
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>In a message dated 12/18/98 11:15:24 PM Eastern Standard Time,
>[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
>
><< I think that we fought a terrible and bloody
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Was it Acton who stated, "Absolute power corrupts absolutely" ? It
resembles prosecution of a war: adopt a plan and stick to it (or the
analogy could be based on a cookie recipe); make minor modifications as
required to suit to taste but basically it'll look the same at the
beg
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In a message dated 12/18/98 11:15:24 PM Eastern Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
<< I think that we fought a terrible and bloody Civil War to end
slavery. And I doubt the suffragettes who fought for the women's vote
thought the process was either reasonable or "peacefu
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In a message dated 12/18/98 9:59:24 AM Eastern Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
<< you are implying we have 'Robed Masters'. >>
Your words not mine. Prudy
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CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagan
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On Fri, 18 Dec 1998, Sno0wl wrote:
>I think that we fought a terrible and bloody Civil War to end
>slavery.
No, the Civil War was about States' Rights...slavery was a side issue,
and Lincoln did NOT support the Union coming out with a diffinitive
statement against slavery...
Bu
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On Fri, 18 Dec 1998, Sno0wl wrote:
>It is absolutely clear, June, that no one is going to change your
>mind. Just as it was clear today, despite reasoned, impassioned
>statements and even pleas from the Democrats for fairness and the
I listened to most of the debate on Pacifica
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On 18 Dec 98 , Alamaine wrote:
> It's as though the sea anchor has been let out and everyone's just gonna
> ride out the storm, checking the knots and wind direction every so often
> .. I agree with Billio: it's like a fiction with a random plot ...
>
> There was a movie some y
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On 18 Dec 98 , [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> At least the founding fathers gave us a document whereby we could
> peacefully and legally alter the government via the amendment process,
> so that we COULD at a later date include these populations in the
> electorate...
I think t
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On 18 Dec 98 , KA wrote:
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>
> On Thu, 17 Dec 1998, William Hugh Tunstall wrote:
> >I respectfully disagree with your idea that the nation was founded upon
> >LIBERTY.first disagreement: Liberty for whom? White males? Blacks?
> >Women? Native Americans?
>
>
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[EMAIL PROTECTED],Internet writes:
>And they gave us a document that spells out the peaceful and legal
>process whereby the electorate (thru their elected representatives) are
>able to remove officials in public office who are guilty of misconduct in
>office, including the Presid
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MJ:
o The Legislation is UNCONSTITUTIONAL
o This is one of the government's direct causes for the
increase in temporary agencies
o This 'act' has caused MORE abuses
o It is not government's place to circumvent a contract >>
Prudy:
The temp a
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In a message dated 12/17/98 6:39:05 PM Eastern Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
<<
o The Legislation is UNCONSTITUTIONAL
o This is one of the government's direct causes for the
increase in temporary agencies
o This 'act' has caused MORE abuses
o It
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In a message dated 98-12-18 06:21:15 EST, you write:
<< It WAS founded on liberty, albeit a flawed one...
But what other country in 1776 (or 1783) gave social and political
liberty to blacks, women, or native populations?
At least the founding fathers gave us a document whe
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trea*son (noun)
[Middle English tresoun, from Old French traison, from Latin tradition-,
traditio active of handing over, from tradere to hand over, betray -- more at
TRAITOR]
First appeared 13th Century
1 : the betrayal of a trust : TREACHERY
2 : the offense of attempting
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On Thu, 17 Dec 1998, William Hugh Tunstall wrote:
>I respectfully disagree with your idea that the nation was founded upon
>LIBERTY.first disagreement: Liberty for whom? White males? Blacks?
>Women? Native Americans?
It WAS founded on liberty, albeit a flawed one...
But wh
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sorry for the delay in the response. so "the states" decided that certain
human beings could be defined as property. This doesn't bother you, even
just a tad bit?
MJ, the problem is you do not have a keen sense of irony. They speak in
terms of "liberty," yet they own human bein
s if on a tour.
Can't remember the name. It's like that: just hanging around to see what
the next plot twist will be, which disaster is next on the intinerary.
A<>E<>R
The only real voyage of discovery consists not in seeking new landscapes
but in having new e
rein ...
A<>E<>R
The only real voyage of discovery consists not in seeking new landscapes
but in having new eyes. -Marcel Proust
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: From: M. A. Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
: To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
: Subject: Re: [CTRL] A Kinder, Gentler Lynch Mob
: Date: Th
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William Hugh Tunstall wrote:
I respectfully disagree with your idea that the nation was
founded upon LIBERTY.first disagreement: Liberty for
whom? White males? Blacks? Women? Native Americans?
MJ:
That of course was left up to the STATES to decide, though they
w
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MJ-
I respectfully disagree with your idea that the nation was founded upon
LIBERTY.first disagreement: Liberty for whom? White males? Blacks?
Women? Native Americans?
Socialism means what to you? We can spend an eternity parsing words...'
I would only point out that these
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William Hugh Tunstall wrote (with snippage):
The Family Leave Act was an excellent idea.
Also, the Clinton administration attempt to get a national health
insurance program going.
MJ:
How is socialism compatible with a Nation founded upon LIBERTY,
FREEDOM and an indi
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On 17 Dec 98 , Alamaine wrote:
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> Not to nose in nor to be imprudent, but:
>
> Ironically, whether the Congress or the people who (supposedly) put them
> there like it or not, the whole debate has raised the level of
> understanding about their government. I
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On 17 Dec 98 , [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Yes, we see now that there is no difference between d's and r's.
> Bush
> had a War for his interests in oil, and Clinton is having a War to draw
> attention away from the impeachment. >>
>
> Why didn't you want to impeac
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The Family Leave Act was an excellent idea. Also, the Clinton
administration attempt to get a national health insurance program going.
We're the only industrialized nation without a national health insurance
program for its citizens.. Those businesses which do provide coverage f
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[EMAIL PROTECTED],Internet writes:
>MJ:
>No actually it goes more towards Politicians 'buying' votes
>and/or individuals utilizing the Government as the instrument
>of plunder. But then you were only commenting in an effort
>to remove all doubt.
>
>Regard$,
>--MJ
back to that l
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MJ quoted:
The classic redistribution-of-wealth mentality works
this way: A and B get together to impose a tax on C
so they can give his money to D, who out of a mix of
envy of C, gratitude to A and B, and selfishness, then
votes for A and B again so they can repe
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[EMAIL PROTECTED],Internet writes:
>Regard$,
>--MJ
>
>The classic redistribution-of-wealth mentality works
>this way: A and B get together to impose a tax on C
>so they can give his money to D, who out of a mix of
>envy of C, gratitude to A and B, and selfishness, then
>votes for
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[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Oh, okay. I think the family leave act was a pretty
good idea.
MJ:
For whom?
o The Legislation is UNCONSTITUTIONAL
o This is one of the government's direct causes for the
increase in temporary agencies
o This 'act' has caused MORE
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Alamaine Ratliff wrote:
Ironically, whether the Congress or the people who (supposedly)
put them there like it or not, the whole debate has raised the
level of understanding about their government.
MJ:
Are you certain it is NOT a 'race' to see who can 'instruct'
the
will swept overboard.
A<>E<>R
The only real voyage of discovery consists not in seeking new landscapes
but in having new eyes. -Marcel Proust
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: From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
: To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
: Subject: Re: [CTRL] A Kinder, Gentler Lynch Mob
: Date: Thursday, December 17,
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In a message dated 12/17/98 3:50:22 PM Eastern Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
<< Ladies first Prudy Can't you even come up with one item? >>
Oh, okay. I think the family leave act was a pretty good idea. Prudy
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CTRL is a dis
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In a message dated 12/17/98 3:50:22 PM Eastern Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
<<
I have to go to work now, but I will post at least five items after work...
then maybe you can post five, but I doubt it.
Regards,
Bob Stokes >>
But you had 20 right on the tip of y
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Ladies first Prudy Can't you even come up with one item? At least
you didn't spout that anti-Republican crap this time Come on THINK...
surely there must be at least one thing you can invent!
I have to go to work now, but I will post at least five items after work.
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In a message dated 12/17/98 10:57:00 AM Eastern Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
<< state at least twenty treasonous acts by him. Will any of you take the
challenge, or will you just keep on spouting your anti-Republican propaganda
with no support what-so-ever for the
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In a message dated 98-12-17 13:49:37 EST, you write:
<< i will take your challenge if you could name one thing the republicrats
have not done in persuit of their goal of enslaving the human race and
wrecking the planet. does anyone know if his spout is still going?
sirhC >>
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[EMAIL PROTECTED],Internet writes:
> Prudy, and other Clinton supporters on this list Can you name at
>least ten things that Clinton did that are/were good for the country. I
>can
>state at least twenty treasonous acts by him. Will any of you take the
>challenge, or wil
-dead radical stereotypes about them really do
apply. They will be revealed asmean-spirited, partisan hacks, hypocrites,
moral absolutists hiding theircraven desire for vengeance and power beneath
a ridiculously transparentfaçade of pious "deliberation"
and "respect for law." -- Gary Kami
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Prudy, and other Clinton supporters on this list Can you name at
least ten things that Clinton did that are/were good for the country. I can
state at least twenty treasonous acts by him. Will any of you take the
challenge, or will you just keep on spouting your anti-Re
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Congress, not citizens are allowed to impeach a President. Bush got away
with it. Clinton should not, and we need to ensure that Bush's sons do not
get in office, although I think Jr. is already destined for that post.
Regards,
Bob Stokes
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In a message dated 12/16/98 7:14:49 PM Eastern Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
<<
Yes, we see now that there is no difference between d's and r's. Bush
had a War for his interests in oil, and Clinton is having a War to draw
attention away from the impeachment.
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On 16 Dec 98 , [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> According to a long-time Republican friend, the Republicans are risking
> nothing. According to him, the American public are so stupid and have
> such short memories that by the time the next election comes around,
> they will have forg
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In a message dated 98-12-16 18:42:10 EST, you write:
<< The electorate IS being educated at this time. Sex education comes first,
and
Ken Starr is providing that. The rest of the education comes later. Prudy
>>
Yes, we see now that there is no difference between d's an
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In a message dated 12/16/98 11:51:38 AM Eastern Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
<< It is truly a pity that the American system is missing its most crucial
link;
an educated electorate. >>
The electorate IS being educated at this time. Sex education comes first, and
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To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Wednesday, December 16, 1998 8:08 AM
Subject: [CTRL] A kinder, gentler lynch mob - Part I
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>A kinder, gentler lynch mob
>Salon, 12/15/98
>
>
>
>THE 'PEACHY-KEEN GOP HAS SHOWN ITS TR
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Gerald Harp forwarded:
A KINDER, GENTLER LYNCH MOB
SALON | Dec. 15, 1998
Instructions for myrmidons
MJ:
Reading through this tripe, the consideration of a 'mirror' view regarding
the Democratic desire to SAVE an accused perjurer who has abused his
power and his offi
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In a message dated 12/16/98 10:21:53 AM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
writes:
<< Maybe the go-for-the-jugular Republican strategy will work, and the
American
public will be won over to impeachment. But it probably won't. And there is
reason to think that the day of
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A KINDER, GENTLER LYNCH MOB | PAGE 1, 2
- - - - - - - - - -
The façade of "judiciousness" and "bipartisanship" that the pious media, ever
cowed by the musty aura of Historic Constitutional Events, dark-wooded
chambers, invocations of "our national honor" and other useful fig lea
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A kinder, gentler lynch mob
Salon, 12/15/98
THE 'PEACHY-KEEN GOP HAS SHOWN ITS TRUE COLORS -- AND THEY CONFIRM THE MOST
BRAIN-DEAD RADICAL STEREOTYPES FROM THE '60S.
BY GARY KAMIYA
I grew up believing that Republicans were the incarnation of all evil. This
was a harsh and uns
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