-Caveat Lector-
For whatever its worth. Albert Pike listed the three
who rebelled. Sataniel. Lucifer. & Ahrimann.
-----Original Message-----
From: Andrew Hennessey [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2002 5:19 PM
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Subject: Re: [CTRL] Please, please begin a campaign
-Caveat Lector-
does the Jewish historian Josephus mention Sataniel in his section on angels
in the History of the Jews ??
andrew
----- Original Message -----
From: "Nurev Ind" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2002 11:01 PM
Subject: Re: [CTRL] Please, please begin a campaign
> -Caveat Lector-
>
> Man on the Run wrote:
>
> > -Caveat Lector-
> >
> > BF>With due respect, Christians did not invent "Satan". Pre-Christian
Israelite
> > texts, both Mesoretic and those not included in the Hebrew Bible, have
mentioned
> > the concept of the Satan. Islam has also invoked the concept. This
concept also
> > exists in other religions than those of the Abrahamic faith. You are
free to
> > disagree with me, but please be accurate.
> > Bates
> >
>
> Satan is Christian. It is not Jewish at all though there may be
discussions of
> such a concept. In those days before science and rationalism, almost
everyone's
> world view was superstitious nonsense.
>
> Satan is the other major component of Christian Dualism which is based in
> GREEK, not Judaic culture. Jesus is the all good god of goodness, and
Satan is
> the all bad god of evil. Y'know... good cop, bad cop.
>
> Thew is right to say that in order to take Satanism seriously, you must
come
> from a Christian superstitious mindset.
>
> Islam incorporated many ideas from both Judaism and Christianity. That's
> why that have a Shaytan.
>
> Dualism is the simplest form of complexity. Philosophy light ( as in not
heavy ).
> Read " Dualism for Dummies " by Abbot and Costello. It's only two pages.
>
> Joshua2
>
> >
> > thew wrote:
> >
> > > -Caveat Lector-
> > >
> > > just the concept "satanic" is a Christian concept. To think someone
might be
> > > a Satanist, you must first accept the belief system that Satan exists
in.
> > >
> > > Satanism is a Christian sect ,perhaps a very fringe one, but a
Christian
> > > sect none the less.
> > >
> > > If I don't believe in Satan, calling me a Satanist doesn't have much
> > > meaning.
> >
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> > > Government is not reason, it is not eloquence, it is a force. Like
fire, it
> > > is a dangerous servant and a fearful master; never for a moment should
it be
> > > left to irresponsible action.
> > >
> > > George Washington
> > >
> > > NEURONAUTIC INSTITUTE on-line: http://home.earthlink.net/~thew
> > >
> > > > From: "c." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > > Reply-To: Conspiracy Theory Research List <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > > Date: Mon, 4 Feb 2002 17:55:22 -0000
> > > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > Subject: Re: [CTRL] Please, please begin a campaign
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >> The inverted pentagram is an agreed upon Satanic symbol used by
> > > > Satanists as
> > > >> such.
> > > >
> > > > satanists... hmm... anyone that doesn't belief that your christ
chap is the
> > > > son of god?
> > >
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