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At 10:56 AM 9/17/00 -0700, nessie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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>[EMAIL PROTECTED],Internet writes:
>>Question: What, if any, crime has been committed?
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>That depends on the wording of the local laws, and NOT on anyone's
>religious beliefs, particularly those of somebody els
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From: nessie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Saturday, September 16, 2000 5:09 PM
Subject: Re: [CTRL] Abortion and the English Language
[EMAIL PROTECTED],Internet writes:
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>In legal terms you become a person
[EMAIL PROTECTED],Internet writes:
>Question: What, if any, crime has been committed?
That depends on the wording of the local laws, and NOT on anyone's
religious beliefs, particularly those of somebody else, not involved, and
living in another legal juristiction.
Crime is a legal matter, no
At 08:17 AM 9/14/00 -0700, nessie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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>[EMAIL PROTECTED],Internet writes:
>>If the "mother" wants an unborn child to live, then it's a "person",
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>Not until it's born.
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Ms. Single Thirdworlder checks into the county welfare hospital eight
months pregnant.
Dr. Popula
[EMAIL PROTECTED],Internet writes:
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>In legal terms you become a person when you are bornbut legally you
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>define anything
And in religious terms you can define anything. The definition of a fetus
as a person is a religious definition. Not all people share, or can be
realistically expe
[EMAIL PROTECTED],Internet writes:
>If the "mother" wants an unborn child to live, then it's a "person",
Not until it's born.
In legal terms you become a person when you are bornbut legally you can
define anything . Blacks in america were considerred a part personso in
a way is the unb
nessie wrote:
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> >If the "mother" wants an unborn child to live, then it's a "person",
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> Not until it's born.
That's a cultural determination. Not a legal, or scientific one. One can
argue that after 24 weeks when the development of the lungs is finished,
t
[EMAIL PROTECTED],Internet writes:
>If the "mother" wants an unborn child to live, then it's a "person",
Not until it's born.
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At 06:09 PM 9/9/00 -0400, William Shannon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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>It's not a lie and it IS much more honest than the anti-choicers calling
>themselves "pro-life" when the lion's share of them are pro-death penalty.
>Most people I know are indeed "pro-choice" as am I, and the main point her
[EMAIL PROTECTED],Internet writes:
>I originally sent this in tolook at the use of language not abortion
Calling a fetus a person is a disingenuous use of language.You can call an
egg a chicken but that don't make it cluck.
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>PS I originally sent this in tolook at the use of language not abortion
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>From: nessie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Date: Sunday, September 10, 2000 1:05 AM
>Subject: Re: [CTRL] Abortion
[EMAIL PROTECTED],Internet writes:
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>If the residents of Texas vote against the legalization of abortion, and
>I live in Texas and want an abortion, I would simply go to Oklahoma or
>Arizona or any other state
>where abortion has been voted in.
Only if you could afford it. That makes it a clas
I am pro-life AND pro-choice. I believe that abortion is murder and that it is wrong.
But I
believe that others should not be forced by law to abide by my beliefs. The
controversy surrounding
abortion results from there actually being TWO issues here. The first is the issue of
abortion and
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This is bogus logic, based on the a priori assumption that a fetus is a
person. That a fetus is a person is not a fact, but a religious doctrine.
As such it aplies only to the practitioners of those religions of which it
is a tenet. Stop trying to cram your religion down the rest of our
throats.
In a message dated 9/9/00 12:13:37 PM Central Daylight Time,
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<< nobody admits to being
"pro-abortion"; they are "pro-choice." This is an obvious lie. >>
It's not a lie and it IS much more honest than the anti-choicers calling
themselves "pro-life" when the lion's sha
Abortion and the English Language
by Joseph Sobran
In his famous essay "Politics and the English Language," George Orwell
analyzed the corrupting influence of dishonest politics on the way we speak
and think. There is no better example than the effect abortion has had on
our language.
Though
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