Re: [CTRL] Christians : Cain and Abel (Conspiracy)

2001-01-05 Thread Vera Harper
-Caveat Lector- Well, since the law was not given until Moses, I hardly think so! If you bothered to read the OT at all, besides looking for secrets, as Satan does, you would see that Adam and Eve's sin was not obeying God. It is not any more difficult than that. Aleisha wrote:I say

Re: [CTRL] Christians : Cain and Abel (Conspiracy)

2001-01-05 Thread c.
-Caveat Lector- - Original Message - From: "Vera Harper" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 31 December 2000 20:35 Subject: Re: [CTRL] Christians : Cain and Abel (Conspiracy) -Caveat Lector- Well, since the law was not given until Moses, I hardly think so! If yo

Re: [CTRL] Christians : Cain and Abel (Conspiracy)

2001-01-05 Thread Stopforth, Jamie
Title: RE: [CTRL] Christians : Cain and Abel (Conspiracy) if you think it is literal then do oyu really want a god who wants to keep you ignorant- but protects you? give me the apple baby... If the above is an example of your reasoning, you must have had some bad apples. Jamie

Re: [CTRL] Christians : Cain and Abel (Conspiracy)

2001-01-05 Thread c.
Title: RE: [CTRL] Christians : Cain and Abel (Conspiracy) why do you say that? explain what is wrong with my reasoning. do you dispute that the apple was the apple of knowledge? do you not think it is an analogy for self awareness and maturity and self reliance? do you believe it is literal

Re: [CTRL] Christians : Cain and Abel (Conspiracy)

2001-01-05 Thread Stopforth, Jamie
Title: RE: [CTRL] Christians : Cain and Abel (Conspiracy) We may want to take this discussion off the list... But to answer your questions, yes, I believe without God, you can't know true knowledge. No, I do not believe the story of Adam and Eveto be simply an analogy.That answers your next

[CTRL] GAP THEORY was Re: [CTRL] Christians : Cain and Abel (Conspiracy)

2001-01-05 Thread c.
-Caveat Lector- RE: [CTRL] Christians : Cain and Abel (Conspiracy)jamie there is probably no point in debating what genesis means if you are a creationist and i am not. it is irreconcilable i would think. by all means debate it offlist with me, but i am sure i will not be able to knock holes

Re: [CTRL] GAP THEORY was Re: [CTRL] Christians : Cain and Abel ( Conspiracy)

2001-01-05 Thread Stopforth, Jamie
Title: RE: [CTRL] GAP THEORY was Re: [CTRL] Christians : Cain and Abel (Conspiracy) yeah, I'm really am sweet guy... Feel free to email me off the list, I'm always up for some constructive discussions... Even if it's with opposing view-points, knowledge of anything whether before or against

Re: [CTRL] Christians : Cain and Abel (Conspiracy)

2001-01-05 Thread Jayson R. Jones
-Caveat Lector- On Fri, 5 Jan 2001 10:34:03 -0600 "Stopforth, Jamie" [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: -Caveat Lector- if you think it is literal then do oyu really want a god who wants to keep you ignorant- but protects you? give me the apple baby... If the above is an example of your reasoning, you

Re: [CTRL] Christians : Cain and Abel (Conspiracy)

2001-01-03 Thread Aleisha Saba
-Caveat Lector- I say Johannas...the crime was stealing apples..thou shalt not steal. O'Saba A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substance—not

Re: [CTRL] Christians : Cain and Abel (Conspiracy)

2001-01-02 Thread Manuel Abarzua
-Caveat Lector- Cain and Abel were NOT the ONLY children Adam and Eve had. In fact they bore many children as it was God's command for Adam and Eve to replenish the earth. In fact one theory states that the Lord bless them to conceive twins each time so that the male and female of different twin