-Caveat Lector- Dave Hartley http://www.Asheville-Computer.com http://www.ioa.com/~davehart -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, November 15, 1999 4:15 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [RuMills] Digest Number 84 ---------------------- There are 2 messages in this issue. Topics in today's digest: 1. THE TRAVELS OF RU MILLS---AND THE WHINES OF JOHN QUINN From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 2. Lengthy Explanation of CSPAN-IRS Press Conference--Larry Becraft From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___________________________________________________________ Message: 1 Date: Sun, 14 Nov 1999 17:09:58 EST From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: THE TRAVELS OF RU MILLS---AND THE WHINES OF JOHN QUINN >From Ru Mills: Dear Rumor Mill News Readers, I have been back from my journey's for about five days. The information I gathered on my trip is so extensive and difficult to understand that I have been sitting back, trying to recover from the trip, as well as decipher my new information. I would not have put out this email to you if John quinn, the news hawk had not sent around one of his usual "whines" in which he attacks Ru Mills. I really don't understand why he hates us so much. Can any of you help me understand this? WHO IS THE NIGHT HAWK AND WHY DOES HE TRY TO DESTROY THE CREDIBILITY OF RU MILLS AND RUMOR MILL NEWS? PLEASE READ HIS LATEST RAVINGS. ... they are included at the very end of this email COULD IT BE THAT HE IS JEALOUS? COULD IT BE THAT HE IS CRAZY? COULD IT BE THAT HE HAS NO SENSE OF HUMOR? COULD IT BE THAT HE IS A MIND CONTROLLED SERVANT OF THE ILLUMINATI? IS HE A SHAPE SHIFTING REPTILIAN? OR MAYBE A VICTIM OF PROJECT MONARCH... ALL ANYONE HAS TO DO IS READ THE RUMOR MILL TO SEE THAT JOHN QUINN HAS NO IDEA WHAT HE IS TALKING ABOUT WHEN HE BAD MOUTHS IT AND TRIES TO DESTROY ITS CREDIBIITY. IT'S CREDIBILITY SPEAKS FOR ITSELF. ALL YOU HAVE TO DO IS READ IT! THE RUMOR MILL WANTS TO THANK JOHN QUINN FOR GIVING US SO MUCH PUBLICITY. WE ARE ALMOST AT 40,000 HITS, IN A LITTLE OVER TWO MONTHS. AND ALL OF THIS IS FROM WORD OF MOUTH.... I WANT TO THANK MY NEW WEBMASTER... AND JOHN QUINN! <A HREF="http://www.rumormillnews.com/">The Rumor Mill News Agency</A> In case you haven't visited the Rumor Mill, here is the link. As for the message about California falling into the ocean. (Which Quinn refers to) Ru Mills did receive numerous such emails from a psychic called Hilarion. For those of you who have been studying new age channels who were created by the NWO. Hilarian apears to be one of them. He has been channeled by various people, but the most famous channel is a man in Canada. It appears that the technology used in creating New Age channels is similar to the space based telepathy discussed in Rayelan Allan's book Diana, Queen of Heaven <A HREF="http://www.dianaqueenofheaven.com/">Diana Queen Of Heaven</A> (If you haven't read the book, then you don't know what is in store for you--800 400 1999 -- when the NWO institutes their new world relgion. This new alliance between the Pope and the Lutherans is just the beginning!) My reference to Hilarion, as I left California, was an attempt at humor. Rumor Mill News readers understood this, why didn't John Quinn? As for my almost three week wander throughout the country. Why do you think I did this? I had places to go and people to meet. For those of you who want to know my route, Here are the places I visited: NSA New Orleans (Only those in the know will understand this, but I have a picture of me with one of my sources in front of the BOQ to prove I was there) Navy divers school in Panama City Beach, FL (Remember, most of RMNews Sources are aging Navy SEALS) Orlando (On the day of Payne Stewart's funeral) White Springs, FL (Listeners of the People's Radio Network will recognize this stop) Pensacola, FL (On the day that two fallen Navy Blue Angels were remembered) Tupelo, MS (Secret meeting with Elvis... yes he is alive and well and living in Tupelo) Cornith, MS (Secret meeting) Shiloh Battlefield, Tennessee (meeting too secret to discuss) Memphis, TN Little Rock, Arkansas (Ru Mills arrived the day Tyson, the wallabee disappeared from the Little Rock zoo. RMNews sources had briefed Ru that Tyson, the Wallabee, was just about to be served up as the main course for Tyson Foods new fast food restaurant, the Outback, which features Wallabee chicken --- [Only people from Little Rock will understand this.] President Clinton arrived several hours after Ru Mills departed. SourceS say he was licking his fingers) Hope, Arkansas (General Mills ordered Ru into this den of danger to seek out childhood friends who could confirm that the real Bill Clinton was kidnaped by aliens and replaced by a cloned reptile. What she discovered was even worse. She discovered a Mills family connection to Hope, Arkansas and to the President himself. Proof will soon apear on the Rumor Mill News webpage.} Texarkana, AR (Meeting at Dennys with Faction 2 sources. Seasoned Rumor Mill news readers know that Denny's is one of Faction 2's businesses. This was pointed out in an article written about the attempt to extort money from Faction 2 by accusing Denny's of being prejudiced. The article pointed out that two gunmen had attempted to shoot up a Denny's one day, and the next day, the multi million dollar law suit was settled. In other words, Denny's did not want to earn the same reputation as McDonalds and Luby's. If you will remember, mass murdered occurred at both of these restaurant chains.) Houston, TX (Meetings with sources -- At the time we held our meeting, President Clinton was having a secret meeting about ten blocks away. For those of you who track his travels, the meeting was held the day he was supposed to have been in Arkansas. Other people in town for the meetings were: Former President's Jimmy Carter, Gerald Ford, George Bush; plus decision making representatives from the Federal Reserve, the IMF and the World Bank. RMNews has been trying to tell people for five years, that things are changing in the financial world. It all began when the hidden gold from Germany, Austria and other former Autro-Hungarian Emprie countries, was returned to Europe.... the first tranche arrived in germany in December of 1994. This gold went into an already established trust. Lines of credit and liens were placed on the trust. This money was then invested in the United States stock market. Now, because the market is so high and so volatile, the people who control the European trust, control the financial market. What does this mean? It means a change of power brokers will soon be coming. If we are lucky, the financial power will stay in the hands of members of Faction Three. At least they have plans that sound like they will benefit all people's... more on this later... ) San Antonio, TX (Secret meeting with source) Gas Station in Texas, outside of Lubbock (Another meeting with a source) Boron, California (Dropped off information) If any of you think it is easy setting up meetings with my Sources, please think again. First of all, I don't meet with anyone I don't know by sight. And if I know them by sight, then their enemies in Faction One also know them by sight. Therefore, a circuitous route has to be traveled. Meetings are set up at the last minute. New travel plans are given so meetings with other sources can be completed. Most of the information I was given on this trip concerns the new Central Bank of the United States. I am still missing some of the pieces. but when I have all the information gathered, I will report fully on it. I wasn't going to write anything about my travels until I had fully understood the the information I was given on my big adventure.... but the following whine from John quinn the news hawk prompted this early and sparse release of information. One further statement regarding the CSPAN IRS conference that didn't happen. The reason I forwarded the email, which was sent from Larry Becraft, to the readers on the Rumor Mill News list, is because this kind of information is in keeping with the information I am being told about the major trouble in the elite's financial world. If my sources in Faction Three are correct, then I expect to see the IRS disolved in the near future. I would appreciate it if all RMNews readers would send John Quinn a letter of thanks. Without his insults and attacks, Rumor Mill News wouldn't have such credibility! Not to mention all the new readers who used to be readers of the News Hawk. For all News Hawks who haven't visited the RMNews webpage before.... If you want to judge our work, read Operation Open Eyes. This was written by Rayelan Allan (Russbacher) using information provided by her husband Gunther Russbacher, ONI, CIA. russbacher is best known as the October Surprise pilot. Gunther's boss in Austrian Intelligence came to California to brief Rayelan on how the United States government is using mind control assassins to ram gun control laws down our throats and confiscate all our guns. Remember the RMNews slogan... first gun control then genocide. If you haven't read this article before on other websites, take the time to read it now. RMNews readers have told me that the article is so powerful that it has changed liberal "gun grabbers" into constitutional gun owners. New readers of Rumor Mill News probably don't know that Rumor Mill News was started by Gunther and Rayelan Russbacher back in 1996. It was a print magazine at that time. The name Ru Mills, was created to hide the identities of the people who provided the information. <A HREF="http://www.rumormillnews.com/operation.htm">Rumor Mill News</A> OPERATION OPEN EYES LINK The name Rumor Mill News came from an intelligence term, "rumint", meaning "rumor Intelligence" i.e.; accurate information put out as rumors. Why do we put out our information as "rumors"? If we said these things "seriously" and provided the documents to back them up, we would probably end up like our friend, Paul Wilcher and Danny Casolero. And to keep from having this happen, I must suffer the slings and arrows from the john quinn's of the world. Oh well, it is better than the alternative. Please keep all of this in mind as you read the following "whine" from John Quinn, the News Hawk. Does anyone know who John Quinn is? Is this really his real name? Does anyone know who he works with? Could he be one of the many government disinformation agents put out there to confuse and frighten us? Who knows? The sources who provide Rumor Mill News with information have been around and public since 1991 when Gunther Russbacher went public with his October Surprise revelation. Rayelan Allan had been around, doing mailings, lectures and press conferences since 1984. How long has John Quinn been around? Please take the time to thank the news hawk appropriately! ---------- From: NewsHawk Inc. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Subject: CSPAN "No Tax" Program a No-show Date: Saturday, November 13, 1999 4:44 AM 11.13.99 CSPAN "No Tax" Program a No-show Well... Hard to say what happened regarding this program. Either the program was never going to happen in the first place, or perhaps that 7-figure bribe alluded to by larry Becraft WAS accepted after all. We at NewsHawk forwarded the information because it came from several sources at once. ONE of these sources, however, has previously proved to be about as trustworthy and reliable as Bill Clinton. We're referring to "RU MILLS". Please, don't ANYBODY on the NewsHawk list EVER send us anything from Ru Mills ever again, for the rest of time as we know it. This person has proved herself to be, as we said yesterday of Ed Dames, either a lunatic, a liar or one of the government's top-level disinformation artists. Or she may be all three at once, and that goes for Dames too. (From RuMills: If I had accepted Senator Claiborne Pell's offer to become his admin assistant for the Senate foreign Relations committee, I wouldh ave been Ed Dames controller... for the budget that is! How's that for a Rumor.... but it is a true one!) For example, three weeks ago, Ms. Rayelan (Ru) did one of her temporary disappearing acts, stating that some psychic named (get this!) "Hilarian"(!)--or would that be "hilarious"?--predicted in no uncertain terms that California was due to be utterly destroyed on Oct. 23.; therefore she (Ru Mills) was vacating the state for a while. Ru neglected to mention whether this massive impending destruction would stop exactly at the California state borders. Wow. Though we're in California, we didn't exactly drop everything and run for the border, based on RU's previous reliability record. As we gaze out the window, California SEEMS to still be here, or else somebody's got one HELL of a hologram program running. Sheesh! Anyway, sorry about forwarding what was most likely a complete and total fairy tale regarding the non-existent CSPAN program, folks. NewsHawk® Inc. ---------- ----------------------- Headers -------------------------------- Return-Path: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Received: from rly-zc02.mx.aol.com (rly-zc02.mail.aol.com [172.31.33.2]) by air-zc01.mail.aol.com (v62.15) with ESMTP; Sun, 14 Nov 1999 12:46:48 -0500 Received: from Mail.Pagosa.Net (ww1.pagosa.net [208.213.220.7]) by rly-zc02.mx.aol.com (v63.6) with ESMTP; Sun, 14 Nov 1999 12:46:40 -0500 Received: from hilary-thomas [208.213.222.175] by Mail.Pagosa.Net with ESMTP (SMTPD32-4.07) id A7558C80130; Sun, 14 Nov 1999 09:46:13 MST From: "Hilary A. Thomas" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Ru Mills" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Fw: CSPAN "No Tax" Program a No-show Date: Sun, 14 Nov 1999 10:44:04 -0700 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1155 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> hawk, spurred me into releasing information prematurely. If any of you can help rumor Mill News understand why john quinn attacks us so frequently, please post it on our RMNEws Forum... and while you are there, take a look at some of the recent posts. The information on Flight 990, and the Octopus companies is very illuminating. ________________________________________________________________________ ________________________________________________________________________ Message: 2 Date: Sun, 14 Nov 1999 21:36:54 EST From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Lengthy Explanation of CSPAN-IRS Press Conference--Larry Becraft Date: 11/14/1999 5:16:16 PM Pacific Standard Time From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Larry Becraft) To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Shlomo Arnon) CC: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To whom it may concern, This last week, the Net was buzzing with information about Bob Schulz's "IRS Showdown II" scheduled for the National Press Club in DC on November 13, 1999. Lots of people expected C-Span to cover this meeting like it did the previous one, but that did not happen. You have inquired regarding the lack of coverage by C-Span and I offer the following. Because so many others have also inquired, please excuse this "form" response which I am sending to everyone. On July 1and 2, 1999, Bob Schulz from New York sponsored his first "IRS Showdown" in DC. Speakers at this first meeting were Bill Benson (author of "The Law That Never Was" which addresses the question of the non-ratification of the 16th Amendment), Bill Conklin, Joe Banister (former IRS Special Agent), Devvy Kidd and myself. Fortunately on July 2, C-Span broadcast the second day of that meeting nationwide and untold numbers of Americans caught it. Lots of interest in that first Showdown was generated as a consequence. Many contacted C-Span and ordered video tapes of the seminar and C-Span has informed Bob Schulz that it sold more videos of that meeting than any other program it has ever broadcast. Bob planned his second Showdown for this last weekend, November 13, because of the apparent success of the first. Of the two meeting rooms on the 13th floor of the Press Club Building in DC, Bob rented the bigger "special events" meeting room; the Press Club has a built-in broadcast studio above this particular meeting room, thus making coverage of a meeting there extremely easy. Thereafter, Bob contacted C-Span inquiring whether it would cover this second meeting like it did the first, and was informed that there was a great likelihood that it would, reserving the possibility of cancellation in the event of some other "more interesting meetings or events." Of course, C-Span does not let those conducting events know about whether it will broadcast a meeting until 24 hours before. When Bob made the arrangements for this second meeting, he was also lining up the speakers. He asked Bill Benson to again attend as well as former IRS Special Agent Joe Banister. Joe anticipated that he could get another retired IRS revenue agent to also attend and this other agent has views similar to those of Joe. Bob contacted Dave Bosset, an accountant and employer from Florida who recently received a "refund" check from the IRS repaying taxes withheld from his employees, and invited him to attend. As for me, I told Bob that whether I could attend depended upon a lack of other obligations for that weekend. Last Thursday, I called Bob and informed him that I could attend the second Showdown. At that time, Bob told me that he expected C-Span to provide TV coverage of the event and he wanted us to spread the word. I did, and you read one of the announcements distributed by me or some other of the interested parties. Bill Benson contacted many with the same message and everyone anticipated that C-Span would televise that meeting on Saturday, Nov. 13. On Friday, Nov. 12, most of the speakers arrived at the hotel at which we were staying early; I did not get there until mid-night. Nobody had seen Bob Schulz before we went to bed because he was driving down from New York. The next morning, we all went to the Press Club in DC, and upon seeing Bob, he informed us of his expectation of televised coverage by C-Span. However, he did mention that he provided a notice of the meeting to all of the other press agencies located in the Press Club Building on Friday, Nov. 12 and invited their attendance. Just before he left New York on Friday, he received a call from a man named Joel Gray, who claimed to be some type of federal government employee; Gray asked lots of questions about the meeting and stated that he had an office in the Press Club building and had received Bob's notice. About 30 minutes before the meeting was to start, everyone was anticipating the arrival of the C-Span crew. But when showtime arrived and C-Span failed to appear, we had to start the meeting anyway. It was a good, well attended meeting and video tapes will be made available from several sources, one of whom will be Devvy Kidd whose webpage is at: http://www.devvy.com/index.html A particular highlight of this meeting was the speech given by Dave Bosset. Dave is an accountant by profession as well as a computer program writer. He is a businessman from Florida and recently (this last June) applied for a refund from the IRS regarding withholding taxes that his company had paid on behalf of its employees. Dave received that refund. He told those attending this meeting about what he did and the legal basis for his refund claim. This is a "first" and lots of people are interested in this issue. I hope that Dave soon sets up his own webpage. Other speakers were Bill Benson, whose webpage is located at: http://www.thelawthatneverwas.com/ Joe Banister, the former IRS Special Agent, also spoke and his webpage is located at: http://www.freedomabovefortune.com/ Devvy Kidd has several articles about Joe posted to her webpage at: http://www.devvy.com/banister.html http://www.devvy.com/banister2.html Bob Schulz's webpage is located at: http://www.givemeliberty.org/ And of course, mine (with Scott McDonald's) is located at: http://www.networkusa.org/index.shtml We were very disappointed that C-Span failed to broadcast the second meeting of IRS Showdown. Presently, this is what we know regarding the failure of C-Span to attend and broadcast Showdown II: 1. Bob Schulz believes that the government employee, Joel Gray, was instrumental in convincing C-Span to not attend; 2. When the IRS Showdown was over, we went back to the hotel. Bill Benson received an important message to call his wife, and that lead to certain very intriguing information. Bill had informed lots of people that at Showdown II, he would identify Senator Orin Hatch as a party who attempted to buy all of Bill's work and books regarding the non-ratification of the 16th Amendment so that this information would not "get into the hands of the kooks out there" across America. Bill did tell everyone at Showdown II what Sen. Hatch's "henchmen" tried to do. But Bill received after the meeting a very important message from a good and reliable friend: C-Span did not attend and broadcast this meeting because it was paid "big bucks" not to. As more information is learned regarding this C-Span matter, I expect Bob Schulz to post that information to his webpage. Why don't you periodically check there to receive information about any late breaking developments. 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