-Caveat Lector- ================================================================= Kaddish, Kaddish, Kaddish, YHVH, TZEVAOT FROM THE DESK OF: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> *Mike Spitzer* <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ~~~~~~~~ <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> The Best Way To Destroy Enemies Is To Change Them To Friends Shalom, A Salaam Aleikum, and to all, A Good Day. ================================================================= ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Sun, 07 Feb 1999 05:07:26 -0500 (EST) From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Feds begin push: Identify, Confiscate, Incarcerate Gun Owners- It's all over now (sent to USCMike1's 29,950+ readers - Please re-post to your own mailing lists) "Feds begin their big push to Identify, Confiscate, and Incarcerate ALL Gun Owners- It's all over now! Are you on the RED list (immediate extermination), the BLUE list (second round up for extermination), or the Prison-Slave Labor list (Those slated for Clinton's Civilian Concentration Camps)? Dear Citizens, Patriots, and Veterans: Please read this extremely urgent post from [EMAIL PROTECTED] which was forwarded to me by [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Douglas Walker) thru [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Eagle Flt). If you don't want to have the Feds to be able to track you down because you have bought 2nd Amendment U.S. Constitutionally guaranteed guns and arms, then contact me and I can make available to you several of over 200 books on how to make your own weapons, ammunition, and implements of self-defense and self-preservation. The Feds are NOT waiting until Y2K or for "supposed" attacks by International or domestic "Terrorists" to start the rounding up of persons who are gun owners, confiscating their weapons, and incarcerating them. First they will meerly be sent to local jails...then all will be rounded up by the feds, FEMA, our National Guard and the United Nations controlled foreign hostile troops already imported here by Clinton. To ALL Veterans: I am starting a Civilians' training program and could use some help from weapons and military operations experienced Veterans to train families and individuals in how to protect themselves and their families. I also will be training in Disaster and Emergency Medicine, HAZMAT (Hazardous Materials operations), and anti-NBC - Nuclear, Biological, and Chemical warfare and weapons of mass destruction purportedly to be perpetrated by supposed International and Domestic "Terrorists" which are really the feds themselves. Please contact me if you can help. Please act accordingly, Thank you, USCMike1 Subj: [Fwd: REGISTRATION, CONFISCATION, INCARCERATION (EXECUTION)] Date: 2/6/99 12:16:01 PM Pacific Standard Time From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Douglas Walker) To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Eagle Flt) The following is VERY serious! Douglas Walker [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: REGISTRATION, CONFISCATION, INCARCERATION (EXECUTION) Dear Friends, Please read and repost to your listees. We now know how pre-war Germans must have felt. Regards, Brian Tyranny has never been defeated by disarmed citizens. [GUNS]: BUFFALO NY FEDERAL GRAND JURY SUBPOENA FFL'S IN KENTUCKY FOR RECORDS OF ALL SALES.... from [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Mon, 1 Feb 1999 22:51:43 -0500 ATTN: ALL FFL'S (Can anyone else confirm this message?).....Bad news if this can be verified..... db. [This is happening in the Louisville and Lexington area's, and who knows where else too.] I have in my sweaty little fist, a fax copy of a subpoena, delivered last week to a Louisville FFL gun dealer. It is one of many which were served to dealers in the Louisville area. (Since I will explain soon why YOU might be in grave danger from this, you might want to contact your favorite dealer, to see if HE got one of these, too!) This subpoena is genuine - I've seen a few of them in my life! The subpoena is for a Federal Grand Jury, in Buffalo, NY, convening February 10, 1999. It is issued by United States Attorney Denise E. O'Donnell, of the Western District of New York, with the Assistant U.S. Attorney (and writer of the subpoena) listed as Kathleen M. Mehltretter. Issued January 6, 1999, it is for an appearance in that court, in Buffalo, to produce the following materials: (1) Every sale, trade, or other transaction to any person or entity since January 1, 1991 which involves any weapon that is capable of firing ammunition 7.62 x 39 mm.; and (2) Every sale made to any of the below listed persons since January 1, 1991: (I will omit the list of names. There appears to be only three individuals, though the list includes what could be aliases for each.) (In handwriting attached is the note: "copies of 4473") What this is, folks, is a request for evidence that someone listed here came into possession of a gun chambered for 7.62 x 39, possibly sold at retail by an FFL in Louisville between January 1, 1991, and now. Now, herein is my problem with this: In the first request, it states: "EVERY sale, trade or other transaction to ANY PERSON OR ENTITY..."!!! Do you REALIZE what this requests? It is a COMPLETE listing of sales and transactions of SKS, AK-type, Ruger, Thompson-Center, etc., sold to ANYONE during this time period!!! NOT just the sought parties, who are obviously the subject of a criminal investigation, but also HUNDREDS, maybe THOUSANDS of law-abiding citizens who have lawfully acquired or traded the same type of LAWFUL firearm, through a duly licensed FFL, when they actually thought the United States Treasury and Justice Depts really WOULD refrain from establishing lists of those lawful transfers!!! It was said to at least one party served with this subpoena, when he asked (FBI) what they intended to do with these list, that they (FBI) intended to contact EVERY PERSON ON THAT LIST to see if they still had that weapon, or if not, to whom and when they disposed of it!!! A FORWARD TRACE to seek out what weapons you own, based on the 4473 YOU thought could NOT be used for that purpose! Now folks, I AM a "little" paranoid these days, I admit! But, I was NOT born yesterday, and, I've had WAY too many undesirable contacts with the many- headed snakes of the Treasury Department to believe there will not be VOLUMES of abuse during this! And, I believe fully, that at the direction of Janet Reno, on behalf of Bill Clinton, this type of illegal forward trace and "ROUNDUP OF VIOLATORS" will become as commonplace as the winter flu! Look at it this way: You bought an SKS 6 or 7 years ago. You played with it, shot up a bunch of that neat cheap ammo, then got bored with it's lack of luster and accuracy, and swapped it for a cheap .22 rifle for the kid. You did it at a gun show, and for the life of you, never even WANTED to know the name of the person with whom you traded. NOW, the FBI wants YOUR ass in "Club Fed", because YOU can't prove where your Charlie Trie provided "assault rifle" went! Scene 2: The FBI comes to your door with a warrant, and wants to see your SKS. No problem for you - you've got it right in the gun case here. You nervously provide it for the impatient mobsters at your door. They know you bought it after September 13, 1994 - they have the 4473 from your FFL. They examine it well enough to know that you have added a fixed 30 round magazine, replaced the missing bayonet, and added one of those spiffy folding stocks. YOU, mister, are GOING TO CLUB FED!!! YOU have created a dreaded "Assault Rifle", illegally, in violation of Federal LAW! Congratulations once- honest citizen - you just won an all-expenses paid trip for one to a Federal Pen, for 10 years! And your property has just been seized from right under your wife and kids! It's starting folks. Don't shoot me - I'm only the messenger! THIS IS REAL! Call Ms. Mehltretter at (716) 551-4811 if you don't believe it, and ask about File No.: 1998R00907! Better yet, once you find out about this - I suggest CALLING your Congressmen (ALL of them from your state!) and your Senators to register YOUR COMPLETE disgust at the breadth of this request! Make them contact the U.S. Attorney Ms. O'Donnell, to make HER EXPLAIN why they need all THIS information about persons NOT being investigated by this Grand Jury! Make the U.S. Attorney EXPLAIN "WHY" they need this information, and just "WHAT" they intend to do with it! This crap HAS to be stopped NOW! IF we can't catch it now, within two years (the remaining time with Sick Willie and his dysfunctional pukes in charge!) you will wish you lived in Russia during the time of Stalin. Just Plain Old Craig Palmer, acting entirely alone... "If we wish to make democracy permanent in this country, let us abide by the fundamental principles laid down in the Constitution. Let us see that the State is the servant of the people, and that the people are not the servants of the State." Robert A. Taft inscribed on his memorial "A government big enough to give you everything you want, is also big enough to take it all away." - President Gerald Ford "Audaces fortuna iuvat!" 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