-Caveat Lector- -----Original Message----- From: Alan DeWalton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Friday, 9 July 1999 10:11 Subject: [TheEagle-L] Fwd: CLNews- Russian Troops in the USA? >From: "David E. Rydel" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >To: (Recipient list suppressed) >Subject: Fwd: CLNews> Russian Troops in the USA? >Date: Wed, 07 Jul 1999 23:08:04 -0400 >MIME-Version: 1.0 >From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thu Jul 8 11:49:51 1999 >Received: from daveryde (port140.maxc03.bignet.net [204.254.122.140])by >ren.bignet.net (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id XAA08007;Wed, 7 Jul 1999 23:44:52 >-0400 >Message-Id: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >X-Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.0 > > >X-Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.0 > >Date: Wed, 07 Jul 1999 04:05:58 -0700 > >To: NewsCCL <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (by way of "Charles Bruce, Stewart" ><[EMAIL PROTECTED]>) > >Subject: CLNews> Russian Troops in the USA? > >Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > >--------- Begin forwarded message ---------- > >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > >ALERT 7/5/99 > >RUSSIAN TROOPS IN THE USA? > >by Michael David Heit ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) > > > > I had a conversation on the phone last night with a Major assigned >to > >the U.S. Air Force Academy in Colorado Springs . He stated that there are > >200,000 Russian troops now stationed at 20 various installations in the > >CONUS (Continental U.S.) area for "training". 200,000 ... 10,000 at > >each site.. can anyone confirm even one? I cannot believe my friend would >lie, > >however, I would like some "independent research" on this. Would someone > >please check out any bases in your area? I am sending a group for a look > >see in the bases in Montana. .....................Mike Heit > > ============= > >and MORE!!!! > > > >RUSSIANS IN FORT RILEY KS > >by Michael David Heit ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) 7/3/99 > > > > To put things in perspective: It takes three and on half to four > >American/ NATO divisions , including all TO&E support units, to equal one >Soviet > >Division with attending larger Soviet Infantry components. Also, the > >Soviet Armored Brigade is twice the size of the NATO forces units with a >much larger BMP > >(Soviet equivalent to the Bradley) component. The T-72 and T-80 use > >smooth bore guns in the 125mm range, but have a slow cyclic rate compared >to the > >M1A2 Abrahms. The Soviet tanks cannot "fire on the run" like the Abrahms > >(any class) due to the lack of gyrosyncronization capabilities. But they > >have so many more..... Any other reports or sightings? I am sending an > >inquiry to our Senators & Congressman today. Will post any answers. >.....Mike Heit > > Mike Received this Information: Max Andrews wrote: My son was > >stationed at Fort Riley, KS until 1995. During that time one of the >First >Division > >Brigades was replaced by a Russian brigade-sized unit. (Probably two > >motorized infantry regiments). That was four years ago, and one can only >speculate > >how many more Russian personnel are now there. By the way, the name of > >Fort Riley has now been changed to "American Base." Max AndrewsLtC > >Ret.Front Royal > >~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > >From: Richard Niemela ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) 7/3/99 > >DOT: More info re these same issues...JRN > > > >FYI... Fort Riley in MN has Russia soldiers enscounced up there. Years > >ago, Turkish troops were stationed at Colorado Springs for training. My > >niece was a nurse there and treated them at different times. What > >they're > >doing there now I don't know. Camp McCoy and Vogt Field are basically > >a NATO base here in WI, with Belgian troops. They have been for at least > > > >9 years. Ric [Ft. Riley is in Kansas]...... > >~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > > >MORE: > >RE: FORT RILEY KS - TRAINING "BY" THE RUSSIANS > >by Dot Bibee ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) > > Writing to Congress does not do ANY good since most people ask if > >there > >are any FOREIGN troops being trained in the U.S. They will answer NO. > >Why? Because now in this NEW WORLD ARMY (and YES, our troops are > >a part of the NWO army - the same as the Russian troops are) they are > >known as the multinational task force and "other" terms. > > > > The unit at Ft. Riley and other locations are known as OPFOR > >(Opposing > >Forces)..... The National Training Center for these "opposing forces" > >is at > >Fort Irwin in California.... and at Ft. Monroe in Virginia > >(www.monroe.army. > >mil/text/3qfy97a.htm) Everything on these pages is "JOINT doctrine". Go > >there for a 23 page report. > > The OPFOR Opposition Forces have their own website (www.otn.net/ > >mypage/magic/opfor.htm - complete with pictures - and MORE at www.slcity. > >com/2-360/opfor/welcome.html > > AND they make it sound so nice. They call it OPFOR Academy - and > >instead of the word "training" they used "indoctrinate". I haven't > >found > >out what this is yet, but in the OPFOR pages the instruction to "foreign > >visitors" is that must coordinate with DAMI-CIT or DAMI-FLT. But I will > >find out. > >The U.S. is either PAYING for these "foreign" troops to come to the U.S. > >to train > >on American bases - or they are "collecting" funds from these countries. > > > > This is being done through a "contractor" called BCTP or U.S. Army > >Battle > >Command Training Program at Ft. Leavenworth, KS. > > The army has FOUR U.S. Army Combat Training Centers. (1) Fort > >Leavenworth KS - provides training for ARFOR/JFLCC, Corps, Divisions and > >Brigade Commanders and their staffs; (2) The National Training Center > >(NTC) > >at Fort Irwin, CA provides training for brigade and battalion task forces > > > >(heavy units); (3) Fort Polk, LA provides training for brigade and > >battalion task > >forces. JRTC is oriented toward light units; (4) Hohenfels, Germany > >provides > >training for battalion task forces (both heavy and light).... So that > >is how > >they operate - and ALL are considered as ONE force - and NOT separate > >units (or countries) training with each other. > > THE NAVY: Since I worked for the Navy in Pensacola for 24 years (in > > > >the Navy Library Program) I am very familiar with what the Navy was doing > > > >in Pensacola. The Chief of Naval Education and Training (the Admiral) is > > > >located in Pensacola - and on his Command Staff is a unit called NSAFA > >(Naval Education and Training Security Assistance Field Activity), > >Telephone > >number (850) 452-2900. This unit has been training pilots from MANY > >"foreign" countries for at least 20 years - and they are still doing it. > >The > >CNET Command is in charge of all training all over the U.S. and wherever > >the > >Navy is - so there are "foreigner" being trained at ALL of the navy's > >training facilities....and Pensacola has their share of these facilities. > > I am SURE that the Air Force has the same set up but I haven't found > >the > > >name of it yet....but I will. I was familiar with Eglin and Hurlburt Air > >Force > >Bases in Florida (about 40 to 45 miles from Pensacola) bringing in > >foreign > >troops for joint training....complete with their equipment - including > >Russian > >helicopters (the largest in the world).... > > In the Fort Riley Kansas Web Pages - it mentions that this equipment > >is shipped from Kansas to California and to other locations by rail - so > >that > >explains the SIGHTINGS by citizens of "foreign" and "Russian" tanks, etc. > > > > > >on rail cars. Continuing my research - now that the 4th Holiday is > >over.... > >Stay tuned. Dot Bibee ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) > >~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (unc B) 7/2/99 > >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > On Alex Jones show today he said that Temple Municipal Airport has > >been > >taken over. He went there and confronted troops. All airport employees > >have > >been dismissed. Troops included are Czech, reserves and this is being run > >by > >FEMA! When he asked if this exercise was for a foreign mission they said > >no > >it is for America. > > > >YES, Uncle Bill: The patriots in Texas are very aware of this "training" > >- > >and they were "told" that the troops were supposed to have LEFT the > >airport > >last Tuesday. By the time I found out about this, it was all over - or > >else > >I thought it was. I have asked for an "update" from Texas...Will keep > >you > >posted. > >======================================================= > >From: Joe 6pk Burton ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) 7/2/99 > >To: Alertsys > > > >Tyndall AFB (Florida) has some, but I don't know how many. 6pk > >======================================================= > >KEEP THESE REPORTS COMING IN. Keeping these FACTS secret > >from the American people is UNACCEPTABLE - and we must let > >our Congress members KNOW that we don't appreciate being kept > >in the dark. Coming to the realization that we have not had an > >AMERICAN MILITARY since the Korean War in 1950 - but a UN > >New World Military is MORE than most people want to accept in > >their minds. I know that I don't want to accept this....but the TRUTH > >is there. They just haven't bothered to tell WE THE PEOPLE. WHEN > >are you going to wake up and TAKE OUR COUNTRY BACK from these > >traitors? 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