In a message dated 1/10/99 7:30:44 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >Good point, Corey, because Dr. Habsburg is on record as denying any >association with this "European Council of Princes". It was created >after WWII by an Italian named Victor Busa, aka (at various points in >his "illustrious" career), "Monsignor Busa", "Orthodox Archbishop >Metropolitan of Bialystock, Patriarch of the Eastern and Western >Diaspora", "President of the Republic of Danzig", "President of the >Democratic Republic of Byelorussia", "President of the World >Parliament for Security and Peace", and "Viktor Timur II, Grand Khan >of Tartaria and Mongolia" (I'm not making this up, I swear!). He >named Dr. Habsburg as "Honorary President" without ever actually >consulting him Hmm . . . Om K -----
From: Tim Carmain <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ---Corey Wicks <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Corey Wicks) > > >From: Tim Carmain <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > >Too bad for Gardner that (a) Michael isn't a Stewart, and (b) the > >throne of Scotland isn't vacant. > >Tim Carmain > > > I can't really say on (a) since geneaolgies aren't my specialty. I'll leave > that the the heraldists and Mormons that we have on the list. My contact > with the Monarchist League of Scotland says that Prince Michael indeed is > far from being recognized as the leading Stewart claimant. And I find the > claim of being the president of the European Council of Princes to be > rather surprising. It is surprising that Prince Michael would allegedly > succeed Archduke Otto von Habsburg as president of such a group. The > Habsburgs are far more respected and recognized as a leading European royal > house, it would seem. Good point, Corey, because Dr. Habsburg is on record as denying any association with this "European Council of Princes". It was created after WWII by an Italian named Victor Busa, aka (at various points in his "illustrious" career), "Monsignor Busa", "Orthodox Archbishop Metropolitan of Bialystock, Patriarch of the Eastern and Western Diaspora", "President of the Republic of Danzig", "President of the Democratic Republic of Byelorussia", "President of the World Parliament for Security and Peace", and "Viktor Timur II, Grand Khan of Tartaria and Mongolia" (I'm not making this up, I swear!). He named Dr. Habsburg as "Honorary President" without ever actually consulting him, and Dr. Habsburg has had to deny any affiliation with the European Council of Princes on many occasions. "Prince" Michael actually succeeded one of Busa's proteges as President, "Prince Alexis d'Anjou-Durazzo-Dolgorouky-Romanoff de Bourbon-Conde", grandson of Grand Duchess Tatiana of Russia (who "miraculously" escaped the Bolshevik firing squad in 1918), pseudo-claimant to just about every vacant throne that ever existed historically. He made a fortune peddling fake titles and chivalric orders before his death from AIDS a few years back. He was identified years ago as Alex Brimeyer, native of the Belgian Congo. He spent a good deal of time in jail for fraudulent activity (having first claimed to be a Khevenhuller, and then an Auersperg), but re-emerged each and every time with a new "claim to fame". Other "luminaries" of the European Council of Princes are "Prince Arnaldo Petrucci of Vacone and Sienna" (aka Arnold Petrucci of Brooklyn), "HRH Prince dom Rosario, Duke of Braganza" (aka Rosario Poidimani of Naples, whose "mother", Infanta Maria Ana of Portugal, was born AND died on 14 December 1887 - go figure that one!), "HRH Prince Nicholas de Ligny-Luxembourg de Lascaris-Ventimiglia" (aka Guillermo Lopez-Rios of Buenos Aires), "HR&SH King William of Alabona-Ostrogojsk" (aka Bill Mazser, a New Jersey car upholsterer) another "Anjou" whose moniker escapes me but whose real name was Isaac Wolf, and a host of other Byzantine, Visigothic, Swabian, and assorted pretenders of dubious distinction. Owing to your knowledge of legitimate European royal and noble houses, you would be hard-pressed to find a bona fide aristocrat amongst this bunch. > And you are right about (b) that the throne of Scotland isn't vacant. > However, I suppose that the notion of a Stewart restoration would go hand > and hand with Scottish sentiment for independence from England. Interesting > that all this talk of the Stewarts happens just as the Scottish Parliament > is restored. The Stewarts would naturally claim that the House of Windsor > has not served Scotland well, as is indicated in the literature Prince > Michael sent me. We keep speaking of "the Stewarts" as though there was still a Stewart (or Stuart) dynasty kicking around to harrass the Windsors. There are collateral cadet lines still existing, but none of them are pressing any claims, backing Michael's, or even claiming Michael as one of their own. Even the family that Michael touts as his father's - the Barons Lafosse de Chatry of Belgium - don't know who this guy is. His grandmother's purported family, the Princes de La Tour d'Auvergne-Lauraguais, have never heard of him. Geez, if even the people he claims as close relatives are disavowing any relation or knowledge of him, how can anybody take his "Stewart" act seriously? Tim Carmain ------------------------------------------------------------------------ To unsubscribe from this mailing list, or to change your subscription to digest, go to the ONElist web site, at http://www.onelist.com and select the User Center link from the menu bar on the left. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ http://www.albino.com/circle/pos/ - list of priory-related books, associations, and websites .... to unsubscribe, contact list-managers [EMAIL PROTECTED] or [EMAIL PROTECTED] or [EMAIL PROTECTED] or [EMAIL PROTECTED] or [EMAIL PROTECTED] or [EMAIL PROTECTED]
