Rumor Mill News Read Only Forum Scientist Suspects HAARP Starting Forest Fires Posted By: Data_Junkie Date: Saturday, 19 August 2000, 5:57 a.m. John Quinn/ NewsHawk® Inc. ±±±±±±±±±±±±±±± Date: Wed, 16 Aug 2000 01:38:45 -0500 From: Joe Bowling To: John Quinn Subject: electromagnetic energy and fires Possible observation of an artificially produced electromagnetic phenomenon You mention electromagnetic energy being used in weather manipulation. I (and others) did note a phenomenon which can only be explained by electromagnetic energy, while working in Eastern Montana (Roosevelt County, to be specific). A Little background: I am a scientist (Geologist) with some background in physics and chemistry. I also have four years experience as a firefighter. I make my living by evaluating rock samples on an oil rig, while the well is being drilled. Small (domestic) oil companies help our national security, there have been no environmental disasters in the Williston Basin (the region I work in), or I'd be doing something different to earn my pay. Be that as it may, I remember enough physics to know that the only way to get a shielded, four conductor, outdoor phone line about 150 ft. long to charge up, like a capacitor, when it is disconnected from all potential power sources is through electromagnetic induction. The phenomenon was noted when there was an arc from the shielding (while the phone line was connected) to a conductor terminal in a standard four wire to modular connector junction box, such as those used in most houses. Please note that the arcing produced a loud 'snap', loud enough to awaken me from a nap in a bunk at the other end of the mobile lab (noisy place), some 20 ft. away, while my partner was watching the gas detectors. The wires were then disconnected from the phone line coming in from the pedestal; there was some concern about damaging the phone which was hooked up. All four conductors and the shielding each subsequently obtained a sufficient charge to deliver an uncomfortable shock or arc about three centimeters to a ground. This happened repeatedly--the conductors were discharged, could be handled without shock, and recharged within a minute or two to their previous charge level. The only voltmeter available was not functioning correctly, so no readings were obtained. We (I was not alone in noting the phenomenon) even checked to make sure the jacket of the line was not worn through and in contact with any metal which may have been a source of power through bad grounding. That can happen on an oil rig, but was not the case. The jacket and conductors' individual insulations were intact. The center 75 feet remained suspended about 15 feet above ground, tied in place with dry, nonconductive material. The only possible, reasonable?, explanation is that a thunderstorm some 5 to 10 miles south may have had some effect, but if other data show that there may another cause, I would like to know about it. Call it scientific curiosity, if you will. While I cannot wholly agree that the absence of limited clearcutting is not a factor in the severity of the fires in the American west, I firmly believe that the stage has been carefully set by federal policy for the fires out west to be of the magnitude they are. Decisions made at Cabinet level and above have caused fuel loads to be at record highs, firefighting infrastructure at a low, and some fires (like Los Alamos) have been the direct result of federal action (they set that one). Unemployment will cause someone to leave a line of work, as those of us in the domestic oil industry know, and "let it burn" policies have reduced the job opportunities for career forest firefighters, and thus the number of experienced firefighters trained sufficiently to act in a supervisory capacity. Rumor has it that dwellings have been burned after people have been evacuated on short notice with none of their posessions or documents as part of 'backfire' areas. The list goes on, all in lockstep with an administration which deeply desires to remove people from the land as much as possible. Please understand that this is not harassment, nor intended to be an aggravation. As a scientist, I just want to see the data for the last week of July, for eastern Montana, to try and find a correlation between the phenomenon which I and others observed and artificially produced electromagnetic energy. 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