-Caveat Lector- Folks, Don't have your Children accuse you of not providing them with the best Education available. Our public schools breed violence, crime, and sexual dysfunction. Do what is best for your child and start the process of finding out about HomeSchooling by checking out some of these Sites: (have you checked with your child to see if the public school is doping your child and/or forcing them to attend classes wherein alternative lifestyles are taught without your consent?) Do you feel you can't afford HomeSchooling? Get busy and search for a Site which will answer your concern. Provable Accusations against American Public Schools http://www.riverpup.com/brainwash/school2.html GO TO: http://www.altavista.com/cgi-bin/query?pg=q&kl=XX&q=homeschooling&search=Sea rch for Links to Homeschooling. More Links to Homeschooling: http://search.yahoo.com/bin/search?p=homeschooling HomeSchool Association of California http://www.hsc.org/home.html "..both the NEA and the AFT promote policies that protect the jobs of incompetent or poor teachers at the expense of those who would improve the system." http://www.bretschundler.com/neapublicenemy.html -----Original Message----- From: Andre Traversa [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, September 02, 1999 11:22 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [conservative] "Gay [homosexual] Awareness Film Sparks Debate" [1stGraders] From: Andre Traversa <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Rhianwen, Many people in america are doing precisely that. Home-schooling has grown by leaps and bounds. To answer your question, I don't know how common this kind of endorement is in public schools here, since I don't think there are available stats on what goes on in every classroom, there's so mch that goes unreported, so much that parents don't know. Man parents don't even know what cirricula are being used in their classrooms, but this is gtheir own fault, and they should take the tme to find out. Andre On Thu, 2 Sep 1999, [iso-8859-1] Rhianwen wrote: > From: =?iso-8859-1?q?Rhianwen?= <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > As you guys may know, I don't live in the US, so I am > a little concerned. Is this endorsement of homosexual > ideals very common in schools there? 3rd grade seems a > little young to be talking about that sort of thing :( > > If this happened here, I would home school. > > Rhianwen > === From: "Bard" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Gay Awareness Film Sparks Debate By Martha Irvine Associated Press Writer Tuesday, August 31, 1999; 12:30 p.m. EDT CHICAGO (AP) -- Third-graders in New York are seen debating the idea of gay marriage. Eighth-graders in San Francisco are heard firing questions at a gay man and a lesbian who visit their classroom. Storytime for first- and second-graders at a school in Cambridge, Mass., is shown to include the book ``Asha's Mums'' about a little girl who has two lesbian mothers. All are excerpts from a controversial documentary, ``It's Elementary: Talking About Gay Issues in School,'' which first caused a stir when several public television stations decided to air it this summer. Now it's being used by many school districts nationwide as a training tool for teachers -- unifying what some say is a growing move to incorporate gay and lesbian issues into school curriculums. Critics say talk about such issues belongs at home. But others argue it's a matter of dealing with issues that students already see every day in newspapers, on television, in movies -- and maybe even in their own communities or classrooms. ``Both schools and families have to address the issue somehow because it's there -- and it's not going back into the closet,'' said Tony D'Augelli, a psychologist at Penn State's College of Health and Human Development. Chicago school officials -- who stress that ``It's Elementary'' will not be shown to students -- said last week that the district's 589 principals would view the film beginning in September and receive a copy for their schools Today, however, officials said they have revised that plan, saying principals will be told about the film during training sessions and can request a copy for their schools. A city official who helped get the film into the district and who will conduct the training sessions said the decision to provide the film was aimed at fostering tolerance and, in turn, preventing violence against gay and lesbian students. ``It's practical. It makes good sense. It's about safety for children. I don't think anybody, regardless of their religious background, can argue with that,'' said Mary Morten, Mayor Richard Daley's liaison on gay and lesbian issues. School officials in San Francisco, who also are using ``It's Elementary,'' have gone as far as imposing a ban on anti-gay slurs. ``Go stand on a playground. I guarantee you that you will hear within minutes kids saying, 'Oh, that's so gay. What are you, a fag?''' said Kevin Gogin, who counsels kids at the San Francisco Unified School District. Moves to address gay issues in the classroom are not, however, without opponents, among them tough-talking radio talk show host Dr. Laura Schlessinger and several religious groups who have made ``It's Elementary'' a priority target. Patti Johnson, a member of the Colorado Board of Education who has spoken out against the use of the film in her state, said she agrees with having a no-slur policy but said some teachers are going too far. ``I don't think you have to go into big, deep explanations, especially when kids are little,'' Johnson said. ``It's kind of like when you want to stop a 2-year-old from running into the street. They don't always understand death or dying. But they understand a quick swat on the butt.'' Filmmaker Debra Chasnoff, who directed and co-produced the film, said she's simply providing resources to teachers who already have to deal with such issues in the classroom. ``It just doesn't work to say, 'We're going to all be nice to one another. Don't use those words here.' I think you need to explain who those words are hurtful to,'' she said. http://search.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/WAPO/19990831/V000828-083199-idx.htm l Let freedom ring ....... then the truth will prevail. Bless all you for keeping the Faith in your pursuit of exercising your personal-responsiblity to a better life. Regards, Bard DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER ========== CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substance—not soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. 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