-Caveat Lector-

Mary wrote:
"I know that the governments want to get
their paws on the internet for the purposes of taxes, surveillence, and to
make
it more favorable for the big corporate guys.  It could very well start out
as a
'stamp out porno' campaign."
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It has already started, and is being heard in the Senate- disguised as
"Methamphetamine Anti-Proliferation Act"

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 Thought Crimes! Senators Move to Criminalize Internet Content:

 The latest attempt to censor free access to information on the Internet
goes after discussions of "unapproved drugs." If these Senators have their
way, you may land in jail for merely linking to a page that talks about
colloidal silver. Join Y2K Newswire is taking a stand against this
Orweillian
 endeavor...

 The Internet is bad for Big Government. It allows the free communication
of ideas that can't be controlled from Washington, and it allows the
low-cost education of the American public on ideas such as banking,
economics and taxes. China learned this early on and put in place filters
that prevent "unapproved" information from moving through the country's
computer
 networks. (All Internet access in China is government-monopolized). This
 information, by the way, includes topics as dangerous as, say,
meditation or Buddhism -- both of which the Communist Chinese government
considers a threat to "state security." In fact, the Chinese government is
currently engaged in hacking these meditation web sites, destroying their
content.

 The United States government, as of late, seems eager to borrow as many
 Commie-style controls from China as it can... and this effort isn't
limited only to Democrats. The latest is a proposed bill, now backed by
eleven
 Senators and sponsored by Republican Senator Orrin Hatch (Utah), hopes
to make it illegal to post or link to a web site that discusses the use of
 unapproved drugs.

 While the text of such a bill is not yet publicly available, it's no
leap in thinking to suppose it might apply to all unapproved drugs, not just
hard core ones like cocaine. Thus, if passed in such a form, the bill would
give the FDA total control over all drug-related web content.

 Want to talk about colloidal silver on the web? Too bad: you'll do jail
time if Senators Hatch and Feinstein have their way. Want to link to a site
that talks about colloidal silver? Say hello to Ben Dover in cell number
nine.  Want to discuss the all-natural herb, Stevia? You'll be a felon.

 One step further and the law prevents you from bad-mouthing those
substances approved as "safe" by the FDA. Did your aunt go blind from
drinking
gallons of aspartame-laced diet soda? You might someday go to jail for
sharing
that on the 'net. It's "unapproved."

 YOUR FREEDOM UNDER ATTACK
 Let's face it: If such a bill were to pass, it would crush the freedoms
 inherent in the Internet -- the very same freedoms that allow sites like
Y2K  Newswire to exist. That's how any government takes away power from its
 people, by the way: control the flow of information. Ever wonder why
nearly every mainstream media outlet keeps telling you Y2K has been solved
even
 though none of them have verified much beyond the so-called "facts" in
the press releases? It's because they are largely controlled by the same few
 people. That way, all messages can be approved. And the message they
want to get out right now -- to save the banks, mostly -- is that Y2K is no
big
 deal.

 Distributed information resources scare the heck out of every
power-hungry government. Any technology that gives individuals the power to
cheaply
reach millions of other people is "dangerous" and must be immediately
attacked.
 That's exactly why this attack on "drug content" has begun. Once the
bill is passed and the public is comfortable with the intrusion, Senators
will
move on to "guns." Should that succeed, (making it illegal to discuss guns
on
a web page) the attack can continue into other "unapproved" areas.

 In barely a generation, the Internet is 100% government-controlled, and
you have -- guess what? -- China! Courtesy of Republican and Democratic
Senators alike. The only politicians fighting this will be Libertarians.
Congressman Ron Paul, namely.

 (This web site, by the way, is banned in China.)

 If you want America to become Communist China, just sit back and do
nothing. On the other hand...

 YOUR CALL TO (EASY) ACTION HAS ARRIVED
 It is now time for you to do your part and blast these Senators for
backing  this bill. Hit them with such a massive protest that they will
never
again consider the censorship of the Internet.

 Look at the list below, and if you find a Senator from your state, call
them and register your complaint.

 SENATORS BACKING THE BILL

 Sponsor: Orrin Hatch (Utah)
 (202) 224-5251
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 Sen Dianne Feinstein (California)
 Phone: 202/224-3841
 Fax: 202/228-3954
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 Sen Joseph Biden (Delaware)
 Phone: 202-224-5042
 Fax: 202-224-0139

 Sen Christopher Bond (Missouri)
 Phone: (202) 224-5721
 e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 Sen Jesse Helms (N. Carolina)
 (202) 224-6342
 (202) 228-1339(FAX)
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 Sen Richard Bryan
 (202) 224-6244
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 Sen Michael DeWine
 (202) 224-2315
 http://www.senate.gov/~dewine/forms1.html

 Sen Strom Thurmond
 202) 224-5972
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 Sen Gordon Smith
 202) 224-3753
 http://wwwsenate.gov/~gsmith/webform.html

 Sen Harry Reid
 202) 224-3542
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 Sen Herb Kohl
 (202) 224-5653
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 THEY WANT TO CLAIM THEY'RE FIGHTING DRUGS
 The temptation for any politician to back this bill is tremendous. By
 censoring drug-related content on the Internet, they can claim to be
 "fighting drugs" -- always a fruitful campaign slogan. Of course, it's
 always easy to fight crime by taking away freedom. It's called a Police
 State. That's no challenge at all A true leader will figure out how to
 fight crime while conserving freedom.

 SAMPLE LETTER
 If you're wondering what to write to your Senator, here's a sample
letter, courtesy of Y2K Newswire (but it's always better to use your own
words
-- don't be like the electric utilities copying NERC template
documents...):

 Dear Senator X,

 I am seriously concerned about the potential impact of the proposed
 Methamphetamine Anti-Proliferation Act which, I understand, you are
backing. This bill would not only criminalize every major search engine
company
on the Internet (such as Yahoo) and literally millions of independent web
page operators, it would also set a dangerous precedent. To begin banning
on-line discussions that are not "approved" smacks of Communism and clearly
 infringes on the First Amendment. What's next: thought crimes?

 I urge you to withdraw your support for this bill or any bill that
denies the American people their God-given freedom to discuss any topic they
want.

 Sincerely, - Me

 HOW TO GET THE INTERNET BANNED
 Y2K Newswire now presents -- to the public domain -- our predicted
attack plan by the United States government. (All copyright restrictions
lifted
 from this list. Freely distribute or post as desired.) As you will soon
see, this is the precise, step-by-step plan that will be followed by those
 attempting to criminalize "non-approved" information:

 Either publicize or stage a "crime" where use of the Internet was
involved. (For example: somebody making a pipe bomb after reading a web
page, then  using it to blow up an abortion clinic.)

 When defenders say, "Information doesn't kill people, people kill
people," invoke the same argument used in gun control: the children! Appeal
to
 emotions, not logic, and assign zero blame to the person who actually
 committed the crime.

 Introduce a bill with a name that's impossible to disagree with -- such
as, "The Internet Anti-Crime Bill" -- but make sure the text of the bill
 actually accomplishes something different (such as total censorship of
the Internet).

 Invent statistics that "prove" how many lives will be saved if this
Internet Anti-Crime Bill goes into effect, then repeat these statistics as
frequently as possible on CNN until the American public accepts them as
fact.

 During debate, frame the argument in terms of how many deaths the
Internet causes, and accuse anyone who does not agree with your censorship
of
being a "baby killer."

 Most importantly, when the bill finally passes, introduce a second bill
that attempts to ban a larger selection of content.

 Repeat as needed until the entire Internet conforms to approved
government  messages.

 ALL SEARCH ENGINES WILL BE CENSORED
 One by-product of all this, by the way, would be the criminalization of
all search engines. Yahoo and AltaVista executives alike would be doing hard
 time behind steel bars. Of course, to prevent that, they would simply
remove certain keywords from their search engines. Words like, "marijuana"
would be stripped.

 In time, this list would grow. The government would make a list of all
 "unapproved" words it doesn't want the public to be able to find, fax
them  over to the search engines, then threaten those same engines with
criminal indictment if they don't comply. Words and phrases likely to appear
on
this list include:

  Clinton body count
  Ban Nutrasweet
  homeopathic medicine
  Y2K Newswire
  freedom
  patriot
  firearms
  herbs
  Constitution
  Drudge Report
  Chinagate
  colloidal silver
  natural medicine
  self-awareness

 ...and so on. Using this single list, the federal government can deny
access to key concepts deemed dangerous to Big Government. He who controls
the
list controls the minds of all Internet surfers. And the industry who will
back this plan the most, of course, is the medical drug cartel. The AMA will
 strongly support the banning of any information that currently threatens
the industry's monopoly over dangerous -- but expensive -- drugs (that cause
 over 100,000 deaths each year, by the way, yet are considered harmless).

 It's all very easy to accomplish, and step one has already begun. It's
called the "Methamphetamine Anti-Proliferation Act" sponsored by Sen. Hatch.
It's easy to accomplish, that is, if we do nothing.


Dave Hartley
http://www.Asheville-Computer.com
http://www.ioa.com/~davehart


-----Original Message-----
From: Globalist Agendas Debate and Discussion List
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Mary Ratcliff
Sent: Tuesday, August 17, 1999 1:01 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Search Engine Crap


Hmm.  It might be the old trick of creating the problem for which the
solution
has already been found.  It ruffled my feathers because there was no clues
at
all that the click was going to take me to a porno site.  That took my free
choice
away from me, and it made me angry.  I know that the governments want to get
their paws on the internet for the purposes of taxes, surveillence, and to
make
it more favorable for the big corporate guys.  It could very well start out
as a
'stamp out porno' campaign.

Steven Wallace, Sr. wrote:

> Yes, Mary, you are seeing a real phenomena of some kind.  The same thing
> happened on HotBot last night. I hate using the word conspiracy but that
> probably makes the conspirators happy ... somebody has designs on our
> utilities, including the Internet, to make us believe that we need
government
> to take care of us "for the children ..." of course.

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