-Caveat Lector- Siener van Rensburg I watched an interesting program a couple of nights ago. I put it in the strange but interesting category of events. At the turn of the century there was an unknown(to the world) afrikaans 'prophet' who was called "seer van rensburg" who was a south african nostradamus.. Unlike nostradamus however he more a biblical figure who was within the dutch reformed church . also unlike nostradamus he was an illiterate man whose prophecies were recorded by his daughter. He however did not live 500yrs ago and his prophecies were with contemporary events. Like all such prophecies, they were given in visionary form and open to speculation (this also involves the question of how to describe future events-how would one describe a chernobyl type of disaster, if you were making it in 1917, when barely the fundamentals of nuclear physics were understood---one of his prohecies did seem to indicate this event but is not earth shattering) He also used certain symbols consistently for certain object/ country. Blue was to him the symbol germany and europe. Red was the symbol of danger. His life and his prophecies were also directly recorded and often told directly to the people for whom they were intended. He died in 1926 Some apparent succees Before the boer war he foresaw the concentration camps in which about 20-30% of the atransvaal afrikaans wpmen and children died. Two of his own children died9the pictures of the camps shown on the TV were similar to anything I have seen about the holocaust with starving emaciated chidren --only the numbers were lacking)(significant numbers of blacks also died.. but that's another topic) Two of his own children died in the concentration camps. He was instrumental in saving a number of boer soldiers during the war. After the war, he was violently anti british and supported general de la ray in his opposition to the Smuts government and his trying to promote a revolt. About 2 weeks before Del la rey's death by 'accidental' shooting at a road block, Van rensburg warned de la rey of the location and certain circumstances of his death. prophecies fulfilled in his lifetime. Others that appear to have been fulfilled after his lifetime The rise of afrikaner nationalism and control of South Africa. The rise of black nationalism and the fall of the Afrikaner from power.(in the 1920's when black dominance was unthinkable) The involvement of a leader from vreeniging in the fall of white SA(FW De Klerk was the MP for vreeniging)....and strangley he forecast a petrol factory near vreeniging that is near where the Sasol(started in 1955) factory converts coal to petrol and diesel...indeed a petrol factory He saw the 2nd world war, and concentration camps in that war The division of europe The later unity of europe around germany A gulf war. And for the future? A second gulf war where russia, china and the middle east combine against the west. The west prevails but britain is destroyed. A giant warf involving germ warfare and rays that destroy the earth. The fall of Africa into anarchy and starvation(but that I suppose is already happening.) The revival of white nationalism The rise of afrikaans power, an terrific struggle and the shedding of much blood (literally a pale of blood which falls) before its re-establishment during the fiercest struggle that the afrikaners have experienced. When asked when this would all happen he could only reply that it was all in the Lords hands. But almost on his death bed, he was asked again and he replied....."when the ice begins to melt" John PS have a nice day DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER ========== CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substance—not soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. ======================================================================== Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ ======================================================================== To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
