Re: [CTRL] Werner von Braun - was I WAS DICK CHENEY'S SEX SLAVE'

2000-08-13 Thread tenebroust
I thought it was obvious that I meant the Germany of the Nazi regime in power during WWII. I have nothing against Germans as a people or nation. The taint is associated with the Nazis since they were in power during much of the time that this technology was developed and they used ruthless an

Re: [CTRL] Werner von Braun

2000-08-13 Thread nessie
[EMAIL PROTECTED],Internet writes: > > >I am proud of my German heritage. Good for you. Anybody who doesn't want Germans on their side is a fool. Compared to Americans, they're moral giants. Except for a handful of token bomb runs on Yugoslavia, the German military hasn't waged war in half a ce

Re: [CTRL] Werner von Braun

2000-08-13 Thread Samantha L.
In a message dated 8/12/00 4:35:24 PM Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > >I'm really quite sick of the habitual, gratuitous bashing and re-bashing > of every person of German identity > > And I'm sick of Nazi sympathizers putting words in my mouth. I said no > such thing. To im

Re: [CTRL] Werner von Braun

2000-08-12 Thread Robert F. Tatman
: Saturday, August 12, 2000 5:32 PM Subject: Re: [CTRL] Werner von Braun > [EMAIL PROTECTED],Internet writes: > >I'm really quite sick of the habitual, gratuitous bashing and re-bashing > of every person of German identity > > And I'm sick of Nazi sympathizers putting w

Re: [CTRL] Werner von Braun

2000-08-12 Thread nessie
[EMAIL PROTECTED],Internet writes: > >Anyone in a wartime economy which imposes wage and price controls and >commands >workers to work in specific industries is really a "slave laborer". Von Braun's slaves at Dora were hung with piano wire when they weren't quick enough to complete a task or if t

Re: [CTRL] Werner von Braun - was I WAS DICK CHENEY'S SEX SLAVE'

2000-08-12 Thread Damian B. Cooper
At 04:25 PM 8/11/00 -0700, tenebroust <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Too bad >this technology will always be tainted by the blood and death perpetrated by >the Germans, and every country since them (and before for that matter). > Well, then, wouldn't it logically and humanely follow that to save t

Re: [CTRL] Werner von Braun

2000-08-12 Thread Damian B. Cooper
At 11:46 AM 8/11/00 -0700, nessie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >For a first hand, eye witness account of von Braun's war crimes as told by >one of his victims, read Dora by Jean Michel, ISBN 0-03-055596-5 > >Michel was a French Resistabce fighter who was captured and wound up a >slave laborer at Ca

Re: [CTRL] Werner von Braun - was I WAS DICK CHENEY'S SEX SLAVE'

2000-08-11 Thread Robert F. Tatman
t. I could equally have used Mao's dictum that "power grows from the barrel of a gun." Bob - Original Message - From: "Samantha L." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, August 11, 2000 7:08 PM Subject: Re: [CTRL] Werner von Braun -

Re: [CTRL] Werner von Braun - was I WAS DICK CHENEY'S SEX SLAVE'

2000-08-11 Thread tenebroust
ed their coats--under the protecting aegis of the > United States Government. > > - Original Message - > From: "Samantha L." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Friday, August 11, 2000 2:23 PM > Subject: Re: [CTRL] Werner von Braun - was I W

Re: [CTRL] Werner von Braun - was I WAS DICK CHENEY'S SEX SLAVE'

2000-08-11 Thread Samantha L.
In a message dated 8/11/00 3:46:50 PM Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > But the man was a > technological genius, beyond doubt. He may well also have been guilty of > war crimes and crimes against humanity, but justice belongs to the victors, > and by the time the Nuremberg T

Re: [CTRL] Werner von Braun - was I WAS DICK CHENEY'S SEX SLAVE'

2000-08-11 Thread Robert F. Tatman
t 11, 2000 2:23 PM Subject: Re: [CTRL] Werner von Braun - was I WAS DICK CHENEY'S SEX SLAVE' > In a message dated 8/11/00 1:03:59 PM Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] > writes: > > > With von Braun on our side - we beat the bastards to the moon which was > &g

Re: [CTRL] Werner von Braun - was I WAS DICK CHENEY'S SEX SLAVE'

2000-08-11 Thread nessie
For a first hand, eye witness account of von Braun's war crimes as told by one of his victims, read Dora by Jean Michel, ISBN 0-03-055596-5 Michel was a French Resistabce fighter who was captured and wound up a slave laborer at Camp Dora where the V-2s were built. http://www.ctrl.org/">www.ctrl.

Re: [CTRL] Werner von Braun - was I WAS DICK CHENEY'S SEX SLAVE'

2000-08-11 Thread Samantha L.
In a message dated 8/11/00 1:03:59 PM Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > With von Braun on our side - we beat the bastards to the moon which was > dream of JFK; but look who takes or tried to take the bows here > recently, attempting to use even little John John.so now fath