-Cavet Lector- <A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/">www.ctrl.org</A> -Cui Bono- ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2000 13:24:50 -0800 (PST) From: Franklin Wayne Poley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Doron Tal <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: BOB ZIMMERMEN <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Tom Rush <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [LIFE-GAZETTE] Re: M A L A Y S I A 'S M U D D L I N G ...Treatment of Minorities in Theocratic Countries. From: Franklin Wayne Poley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Shalom: What can I say except that through 5 years of correspondence by Internet I have known Doron as a "gentleman and a scholar" so let's take it from there. Also refer to http://www.vcn.bc.ca/The-Question-Nobody-Will-Answer.htm That question nobody will answer was the "banner" in every issue of Life Gazette when it was published in tabloid format in the late 80's and early 90's. It was phrased in those Life-Gazettes as the Preamble to the Canadian Constitution, "Whereas Canada is founded upon principles that recognize the supremacy of God....". MP's Boudria and Mills have expressed an explicit interest in the definition of a "Godly Society" vs. a "Godless Society" for Canada. Mr. Boudria said we should ask the clergy and religion experts. On Mon, 10 Jan 2000, Doron Tal wrote: > Ref. is made to > http://members.tripod.co.uk/Malaysia_Muddling/index.html > > Dear Bob, > > With all the respect to "us" > 'THE JEWS' who (as you claim) > 'ARE GOD CHOSEN PEOPLE PERIOD' [sic] That statement may get some peoples' ire up but I think it is an assertion of "IDENTITY" as the British Israel Christians call it. Right or wrong it is forthright and a challenge to all. Don't Muslims and Christians also believe they are God's Chosen People? What then is "Culture X" for any one of these groups or others? > we are not the kings of this world! Interesting...sounds like what Jesus Christ, "King of the Jews" said 2,000 years ago. Last year a "Judge Cohen" (retired), Supreme Court of Israel, said the trial of Jesus was a mis-trial. Alright then, how about a kind of retrial from Scripture and other historical evidence? I have been on L-Torah for several years and I still haven't heard one violation of the Torah which anyone can reasonably attach to Jesus Christ. And the Traditional Jewish Prayer Book says "Judaism has never called for an unreasoned faith". The Holy Koran tells us Jesus was born of a virgin, purged of vanity and wickedness and ascended to Heaven. No violation of the Torah in that. > Indeed and unfortunately more than a few of "us" do abuse others, > exploiting for vain the name of THY LORD. It's an undeniable fact > that some Orthodox Rabbis in Israel do abuse the name of THY LORD > for vain, in an attempt to rule others! :( > > It is to say that am unhappy to deal with those who are against > anyone because of one's origin, belief or disbelief. What then do you say of the Sapidi family who are being sent back to Israel from Vancouver this week? They found their way to Pentecostal Christianity from Judaism and are afraid of persecution in Israel. The daughter was born in Canada and so their appeal will be heard in 6 months time. The Sapidis are, I expect, reasonable people. Can you get them on Internet, Doron, to make their case? > You are right! I have NOT spend enough time at your site > examining those articles, because from the very beggining I felt > it wasn't worth due to the published citiation you bring. . . > > You may want to rewrite the openning of your outstanding web-site > to make it clearer, unless you wish those Moslems to enter the > "trap" ;-) > > Shalom from Israel, > Doron > http://www.geocities.com/~stop_abuse > > --- BOB ZIMMERMEN wrote: > > > > ------Original Message------ > > From: Doron Tal <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Sent: January 9, 2000 5:28:45 PM GMT > > Subject: M A L A Y S I A 'S M U D D L I N G .... > > > > Dear Bob, > > > > I would have invested in Malaysia, but only because you are hate > > mongering by citing: > > > > "And incidentally we are Moslems > > and the Jews are not happy to see the Moslems progress" Well, let's look at it this way. What chance do Christians and Muslims have to progress in Israel? What chance do the Sapidis now have? > > I would never do so! > > > > Doron > > _________________________________________________ > > > > Dear Doron > > > > I was saddened by your feedback. I think you have had misunderstood me. Cos' > > you may not have spend enough time at the site examining those articles and > > link I have gathered. > > > > Fact is I'm proud of the fact that my Bible tells me that the > > Jews are God chosen people. Hence being part of the gentiles > > who are saved in the kingdom of God through Christ Jesus, I'm > > extremely unhappy with the prime minister of Malaysia, Dr.Mahathir for those > > accusasions and lies he had on Jews and the > > American people at large. Let's not be too quick to judge who the real Jews or Christians are. The last time I read some material from Imam Farrakhan's "Final Call" he was quoting Revelation. And Revelation begins with warnings from Jesus Christ about false Jews and false Christians. How then would Tehran know the true from the false given that Islam charges them to protect Christian and Jewish minorities? Which is the reason why I have put this site to > > gather whatever rubbish he have said about this issue. The objective is to > > spread the word to would be investor thinking > > of putting their oney into Malaysia to think carefully. How can anyone > > support such a man who has got so much hatred for Jews and Whitemen. > > > > Lastly I wish to inform you that I have deletted your public > > message in my guestbook entry as I have explained above. Perhaps > > to support my cause to fight this evil man Mahathir and Malaysia > > you may want to rewrite your guestbook entry and have a copy send to me via > > E-Mail. > > > > 'THE JEWS ARE GO CHOSEN PEOPLE PERIOD' > > > > PRAISE GOD FOR THAT. If Jesus Christ told the truth, then what are the grounds for His excommunication? If today's Jews have no well REASONED grounds for excommunicating the Lion of Judah they have no grounds for excommunicating the Sapidi family for affirming that they are His followers. So back to my request, Doron. Can you help them to get on the Internet? Shalom-FWP. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- http://www.vcn.bc.ca/culturex/The-Question-Nobody-Will-Answer.htm ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- --------------------------- ONElist Sponsor ---------------------------- GRAB THE GATOR! FREE SOFTWARE DOES ALL THE TYPING FOR YOU! Tired of filling out forms and remembering passwords? Gator fills in forms and passwords with just one click! 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