[CTRL] America was founded like Israel as an OCCULT state.
-Caveat Lector- http://rigint.blogspot.com/2006/09/born-in-time-part-one.html#commentsAnonymous said...shrubbie pall buddie of mine. I suggest you watch THE NINTH GATE too. There is much more going on then in EYES WIDE SHUT. Notice at the Zieglers christmas party ALL THE STARS ARE EIGHT pointed stars. The star of Asteroth. In The Ninth Gate Roman Polanski did very good on this film. He is in his genre here. But alas was not given due credit. I think that this film is more important than EYES WIDE SHUT. Lots of subtle touches.Both films done around the same time.ews 1999 and t9Gate 2000. The locations selected for both films show the ultra rich side we never get to glimpse. The aura of great wealth and darkness are pronounced in both films. I could go on and on,but i want to know what others think. Lincoln like Kennedy wanted to get rid of the central bank.HINT HINT The spirit world and Lincoln were inseparable. He dreamed of his own doom. His wife held seances in the white house. This would make a great movie. non-fiction is always stranger than fiction2:32 PM Anonymous said...Watch both films back to back.2:36 PM Anonymous said...America was founded like Israel as an OCCULT state. The founders were deists. The Statue of Liberty is Asteroth. The layout of the District of COLUMBIA.2:47 PM Anonymous said...ISRAEL WAS NOT FOUNDED AS A JEWISH STATE, IT'S FOUNDED AS OCCULT STATE (like the U.S.): This report will shock and upset some; it is one I have put off for over 4 years. After struggling with it I have decided now is the time to write it. Knowing it could be misunderstood as anti-Semitic. God forbid that I a Jew should ever say or do anything that would be remotely considered as such, but I must admit this report does not come easy for me. The fact still remains that an evil force has been put into place in Jerusalem and has spread throughout Israel,...This report will prove that such a move is underway and has been for quiet some time..the architectural design of the New Israeli Supreme Court Building designed and paid for by Rothchilds reflects instead only the presence of Free Masonry Illuminati architecturally. The Engineers who were chosen for this job by the Rothschilds were grandson granddaughter of Ben-Zion Guine from Turkey who worked for Baron Rothschild, Ram Kurmi, born in Jerusalem in 1931, and Ada Karmi-Melanede born in Tel-Aviv in 1936. For those who can make something out of the numbers: important to builders to have everything done according to correct numbers: were 1,000 sheets of plans, 1,200 cement posts; worked on building for 3 years or 750 days; 20 workers each day, for 200,000 workdays; 250,000 building stones, each hand placed. Rothschilds made many stipulations with Israeli Government before the building began, among them: Rothschilds would pick the plot of land to align build Supreme Court; Rothschilds would use their own architects; no one would ever know how much the building cost. It took four years to build a structure with many secrets built into it. This is where our journey begins as we begin to enter into the building, for this entire journey is intended to bring one from darkness into the light, become an Illuminated one, destroy Christianity and Islam through trampling/mocking their symbols, introduce Hindu, Far Eastern, Egyptian symbolism, be a daily reminder of occult power in Israel for those in the know as they move Jews and Muslims like chess pawns against each other, toward a designed Middle Eastern WWIII. GREEN EYES= www.ctrl.org DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion & informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substanceânot soap-boxingâplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'âwith its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsâis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/ctrl@listserv.aol.com/ A HREF=""ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] THE LOW POST: I, Left Gatekeeper
-Caveat Lector- RINTER FRIENDLYURL: http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/story/11818067/the_low_post_the_hopeless_stupidity_of_911_conspiraciesRollingstone.comBack to THE LOW POST: The Hopeless Stupidity of 9/11 ConspiraciesTHE LOW POST: I, Left GatekeeperWhy the "9/11 Truth" movement makes the "Left Behind" sci-fi series read like ShakespeareMATT TAIBBITalk back to Taibbi -- and see a complete archive of The Low Post.A few weeks ago I wrote a column on the anniversary of 9/11 that offhandedly dismissed 9/11 conspiracy theorists as "clinically insane." I expected a little bit of heat in response, but nothing could have prepared me for the deluge of fuck-you mail that I actually got. Apparently every third person in the United States thinks George Bush was behind the 9/11 attacks."You're just another MSM-whore left gatekeeper paid off by corporate America," said one writer. "What you do isn't journalism at all, you dick," said another. "You're the one who's clinically insane," barked a third, before educating me on the supposed anomalies of physics involved with the collapse of WTC-7.I have two basic gripes with the 9/11 Truth movement. The first is that it gives supporters of Bush an excuse to dismiss critics of this administration. I have no doubt that every time one of those Loose Change dickwads opens his mouth, a Republican somewhere picks up five votes. In fact, if there were any conspiracy here, I'd be far more inclined to believe that this whole movement was cooked up by Karl Rove as a kind of mass cyber-provocation, along the lines of Gordon Liddy hiring hippie peace protesters to piss in the lobbies of hotels where campaign reporters were staying.Secondly, it's bad enough that people in this country think Tim LaHaye is a prophet and Sean Hannity is an objective newsman. But if large numbers of people in this country can swallow 9/11 conspiracy theory without puking, all hope is lost. Our best hope is that the Japanese take pity on us and allow us to serve as industrial slaves in their future empire, farming sushi rice and assembling robot toys.I don't have the space here to address every single reason why 9/11 conspiracy theory is so shamefully stupid, so I'll have to be content with just one point: 9/11 Truth is the lowest form of conspiracy theory, because it doesn't offer an affirmative theory of the crime.Forget for a minute all those Internet tales about inexplicable skyscraper fires, strange holes in the ground at Shanksville and mysterious flight manifestoes. What is the theory of the crime, according to the 9/11 Truth movement?Strikingly, there is no obvious answer to that question, since for all the many articles about "Able Danger" and the witnesses who heard explosions at Ground Zero, there is not -- at least not that I could find -- a single document anywhere that lays out a single, concrete theory of what happened, who ordered what and when they ordered it, and why. There obviously is such a theory, but it has to be pieced together by implication, by paying attention to the various assertions of 9/11 lore (the towers were mined, the Pentagon was really hit by a cruise missile, etc.) and then assembling them later on into one single story. But the funny thing is, when you put together all of those disparate theories, you get the dumbest story since Roman Polanski's Pirates.The specifics vary, but the basic gist of what They Say Happened goes something like this:A group of power-hungry neocons, led by Dick Cheney, Paul Wolfowitz, Bush and others and organizationally represented by groups like the Project for the New American Century, seeks to bring about a "Pearl-Harbor-like event" that would accelerate a rightist revolution, laying the political foundation for invasions of Afghanistan and Iraq.Your basic Reichstag fire scenario, logical enough so far. Except in this story, the Reichstag fire is an immensely complicated media hoax; the conspirators plot to topple the World Trade Center and pin a series of hijackings on a group of Sunni extremists with alleged ties to Al Qaeda. How do they topple the Trade Center? Well, they make use of NORAD's expertise in flying remote-control aircraft and actually fly two such remote-control aircraft into the Towers (in another version of the story, they conspire with Al Qaeda terrorists to actually hijack the planes), then pass the planes off as commercial jetliners in the media. But it isn't the plane crashes that topple the buildings, but bombs planted in the Towers that do the trick.For good measure -- apparently to lend credence to the hijacking story -- they then fake another hijacking/crash in the Pentagon, where there actually is no plane crash at all but instead a hole created by a cruise missile attack, fired by a mysterious "white jet" that after the attack circles the White House for some time, inspiring the attention of Secret Service agents who point at it curiously from the ground (apparently these White House Secret Service agents
[CTRL] Fwd: [SPY NEWS] The five pillars of the U.S. military-industrial complex
-Caveat Lector- Begin forwarded message:From: "Mario Profaca" [EMAIL PROTECTED]Date: September 27, 2006 4:15:47 AM PDTTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: [SPY NEWS] The five pillars of the U.S. military-industrial complexReply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://onlinejournal.com/artman/publish/article_1241.shtmlThe five pillars of the U.S. military-industrial complexRodrigue Tremblay, Online Journal Guest WriterSeptember 25, 2006"Over-grown military establishments are under any form of government inauspicious to liberty, and are to be regarded as particularly hostile to republican liberty." --George Washington (1732-1799), 1st US President"[The] conjunction of an immense military establishment and a large arms industry is new in the American experience. . . . In the councils of government, we must guard against the acquisition of unwarranted influence, whether sought or unsought, by the military-industrial complex. The potential for the disastrous rise of misplaced power exists and will persist." --Dwight D. Eisenhower (1890-1969), 34th US President, Farewell Address, Jan. 17, 1961"It is part of the general pattern of misguided policy that our country is now geared to an arms economy which was bred in an artificially induced psychosis of war hysteria and nurtured upon an incessant propaganda of fear." --General Douglas MacArthur, Speech, May 15, 1951In the 1920s, President Calvin Coolidge said, "the business of America is business." Nowadays, it can be said that the arms industry and permanent war have become a big part of American business, as the offshoot of a well-entrenched military-industrial complex. This is a development that previous American men of vision, men like President George Washington and President Dwight Eisenhower, have warned against as being intrinsically inimical to democracy and liberty. However, the current Bush-Cheney administration is not afraid of such a development; its principal members are part of it and are instead very busy promoting it.Wars, especially modern electronic wars, are very murderous, but they are also synonymous with big cost-plus contracts, big profits and big employment for those who produce the required military gear. Wars are the paradise of profiteers.Wars are also a way for mediocre politicians to monopolize both the news and the media in their partisan favor by whipping up patriotic fervor and by pushing for narrow-minded nationalism. Indeed, to inflame patriotism and nationalism is an old demagogic trick used to dominate a nation. When that happens, there is a clear danger that democracy and freedom will be eroded, and even disappear, if that development leads to an exacerbated concentration of power and political corruption.The terrorist attacks of Sept. 11, 2001, were a bonanza for the American military-industrial complex. This was an event, a "New Pearl Harbor," that some had openly been hoping for. The reason? These attacks gave the perfect pretext to keep military expenses, which had been expected to fall after the demise of the old Soviet Empire, at a high level. Instead, they provided the rationale for dramatically increasing them, by substituting a ?War on Terror? and a "War against Islamists" as a replacement for the ?War against Communism,? and the "Cold War against the Soviet Union". In this new perspective, the gates of military spending could be open and flowing again. The development of ever more sophisticated armaments could go forward and thousands of corporations and hundreds of political districts could continue to reap the benefits. The costs would be born by the taxpayers, by young men and women who die in combat and by remote populations who happen to lie under the rain of bombs about to fall upon them and their homes.Indeed, in September 2000, when the Pentagon issued its famous strategy document entitled "Rebuilding America's Defenses," the belief was expressed that the kind of military transformation the planners were considering required "some catastrophic and catalyzing event -- like a new Pearl Harbor,? to make it possible to sell the plan to the American public. They were either prescient or lucky, because one year later, they had the "New Pearl Harbor" they had been hoping for.The military-industrial complex needs wars, many and successive wars, to prosper. Old military equipment has to be repaired and replaced each time there is a hot war. But to justify the enormous costs of developing ever more deadly weapons, there needs to be a constant climate of fear and vulnerability. For example, there are many reports, originating from medical and international observers, that the Israeli attacks against Lebanon and Gaza during the summer of 2006, allowed for the use of 'new American-made weapons.' Such weapons are reported to include depleted uranium (DU) bombs, 'direct energy' weapons and new chemical and biological weapons. These weapons not only make the act of homicide easier but they also contaminate the environment with radioactive DU
[CTRL] Fwd: [ctrl] Snap, Crackle, Pop (Rice Crispy)
-Caveat Lector- Begin forwarded message:From: "Alamaine, IVe" [EMAIL PROTECTED]Date: September 27, 2006 3:44:38 AM PDTTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: [ctrl] Snap, Crackle, Pop (Rice Crispy)Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://thinkprogress.org/2006/09/26/rice-clinton-terrorism/Rice Falsely Claims Bush´s Pre-9/11 Anti-Terror Efforts Were `At Least As Aggressive´ As Clinton´sThis morning, in the Fox-owned New York Post, Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice reacts angrily to President Clinton´s criticisms of how the Bush administration approached the terrorist threat during their first eight months in office. (The Post headlines the article "Rice Boils Over Bubba") An excerpt:Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice yesterday accused Bill Clinton of making "flatly false" claims that the Bush administration didn´t lift a finger to stop terrorism before the 9/11 attacks "What we did in the eight months was at least as aggressive as what the Clinton administration did in the preceding years," Rice added.The 9/11 Commission Report contradicts Rice´s claims. On December 4, 1998, for example, the Clinton administration received a President´s Daily Brief entitled "Bin Ladin Preparing to Hijack US Aircraft and Other Attacks." Here´s how the Clinton administration reacted, according to the 9/11 Commission report:The same day, [Counterterrorism Czar Richard] Clarke convened a meeting of his CSG [Counterterrorism Security Group] to discuss both the hijacking concern and the antiaircraft missile threat. To address the hijacking warning, the group agreed that New York airports should go to maximum security starting that weekend. They agreed to boost security at other East coast airports. The CIA agreed to distribute versions of the report to the FBI and FAA to pass to the New York Police Department and the airlines. The FAA issued a security directive on December 8, with specific requirements for more intensive air carrier screening of passengers and more oversight of the screening process, at all three New York area airports. [pg. 128-30]On August 6, 2001, the Bush administration received a President´s Daily Brief entitled "Bin Laden Determined to Strike U.S." Here´s how the Bush administration reacted, according to the 9/11 Commission report:[President Bush] did not recall discussing the August 6 report with the Attorney General or whether Rice had done so.[p. 260]We have found no indication of any further discussion before September 11 among the President and his top advisers of the possibility of a threat of an al Qaeda attack in the United States. DCI Tenet visited President Bush in Crawford, Texas, on August 17 and participated in the PDB briefings of the President between August 31 (after the President had returned to Washington) and September 10. But Tenet does not recall any discussions with the President of the domestic threat during this period. [p. 262]Rice acknowledged that the 9/11 Commission report is the authoratative source on this debate: "I think this is not a very fruitful discussion. We´ve been through it. The 9/11 commission has turned over every rock and we know exactly what they said."Digg It!Alamaine, IVeGrand Forks, ND, US of A~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~"All are lunatics, but he who can analyze his delusion is called a philosopher." - Ambrose Bierce (1842-1914)Don't ask about caste or riches but instead ask about conduct. Look at the flames of a fire. Where do they come from? From a piece of wood"and it doesn't matter what wood. In the same way, a wise person can come from wood of any sort. It is through firmness and restraint and a sense of truth that one becomes noble, not through caste. -Sutta Nipata~~~In accordance with Title 17 U.S.C. Section 107, the material on this site is distributed without profit to those who have expressed a prior interest in receiving the included information for research and educational purposes.__._,_.___Messages in this topic (1)Reply (via web post) | Start a new topicMessages | Memberswww.ctrl.orgDECLARATION DISCLAIMER==ctrl is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substance—not soap-boxing—please! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'—with its many half-truths, mis-directions and outright frauds—is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought.That being said, ctrl gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. ctrl gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply.There are two list running, [EMAIL PROTECTED] and CTRL@listserv.aol.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] has unlimited posting and is more for discussion. CTRL@listserv.aol.com is more for informational exchange and has limited posting abilities. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector.Omimited posting abilities. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector.Om Change settings via the Web (Yahoo!
[CTRL] lizards in the white house
-Caveat Lector- Talk about your conspiracy theories! What species would knowingly wipe out its own kind, destroy its habitat, change its environment to one inhospitable to its own survival needs, and convince the members of its population that their lives would be better if they were all dead? Answer: none. It goes against basic survival instincts. Yet do not these seem to be the policies of GW Bush? Dick Cheney? Donald Rumsfeld, Pat Robertson, Paul Wolfowitz, Richard Perle, Douglas Feith and the rest of the neo conservatives that are steering the juggernaut of state faster and faster down the path to the abyss called Armageddon, and taking all humanity along with them? Haven't you asked yourself time and again what kind of insanity drives these people? Haven't you wondered if they truly can be too stupid and short sighted to see the consequences of their actions, or if there is some other hidden agenda? Perhaps the question you should ask is, are they really members of our species at all? I have a new novel which answers that question. It is available for free online at http://www.freeoriginalbooks.com. It's title: Lizards in The White House, Part One. I'm currently working on part two, and hopefully will be allowed to complete it by this coming Christmas. I'll be adding it then, along with other published and unpublished works of mine as I find time to get them on. A second offering, Once Upon Europa is already there. www.ctrl.org DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substanceânot soap-boxingâplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'âwith its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsâis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/ctrl@listserv.aol.com/ A HREF=http://www.mail-archive.com/ctrl@listserv.aol.com/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Fwd: [SPY NEWS] Musharraf: U.S. created terror `monster'
-Caveat Lector- Begin forwarded message:From: "Mario Profaca" [EMAIL PROTECTED]Date: September 27, 2006 7:37:02 AM PDTTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: [SPY NEWS] Musharraf: U.S. created terror `monster'Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.abqtrib.com/news/2006/sep/27/musharraf-us-created-terror-monster/Musharraf: U.S. created terror `monster'Associated PressWednesday, September 27, 2006ISLAMABAD, Pakistan — Pakistan's president said in his newly released memoir that he had no choice after the attacks of Sept. 11, 2001, but to switch from supporting the Taliban to backing the U.S.-led war on terror groups or face an American "onslaught."Gen. Pervez Musharraf, in his book "In The Line of Fire," also criticizes the U.S.-led invasion of Iraq, saying it has made the world "more dangerous."Unusual in publishing a memoir while still in power, Musharraf said Pakistan, the United States and Saudi Arabia created an extremist "monster" by supporting Islamic groups fighting the Soviet Union's 1979-89 occupation of Afghanistan."We had assisted in the rise of the Taliban after the Soviet Union withdrew from Afghanistan, which was then callously abandoned by the United States," Musharraf says.It was within this vacuum that Osama bin Laden and his al-Qaida terror network strengthened, thanks to the support of the Taliban's leader, Mullah Omar, he adds.Pakistan saw the Taliban as a means to end years of chaos in Afghanistan, which peaked during the 1992-96 civil war, said Musharraf, who came to power in a 1999 coup. He says Islamabad also saw the Taliban as a counter to Afghanistan's Northern Alliance, which favored Pakistan's rival, India.But after the Sept. 11 attacks, Musharraf said, he realized continuing to support the Taliban and having ties with militant groups would set Pakistan on a collision course with the United States."America was sure to react violently, like a wounded bear," Musharraf writes. "If the perpetrator turned out to be al-Qaida, then that wounded bear would come charging straight toward us."The day after the attacks on the World Trade Center and the Pentagon, Musharraf said, Secretary of State Colin Powell telephoned with an ultimatum: "You are either with us or against us."The next day, he said, Powell's then deputy, Richard Armitage, telephoned the chief of Pakistan's top spy agency, the Directorate of Inter Services Intelligence, with an even sterner warning."In what has to be the most undiplomatic statement ever made, Armitage . . . told the director general not only that we had to decide whether we were with America or with the terrorists, but that if we chose the terrorists, then we should be prepared to be bombed back to the Stone Age," Musharraf writes.Armitage last week denied threatening to bomb Pakistan, but acknowledged delivering a stern warning.Musharraf says he weighed Pakistan's options, including the possibility of militarily countering any U.S. actions."I war-gamed the United States as an adversary," he writes, but concluded Pakistan's military, economic and social weaknesses made it impossible to confront America.He also worried about nuclear-armed India, with which Pakistan has fought three wars since their 1947 independence from Britain, including two over the disputed Himalayan region of now divided Kashmir."The Indians might have been tempted to undertake a limited offensive there (Kashmir); or more likely they would work with the United States and the United Nations to turn the present situation into a permanent status quo," Musharraf writes. "The United States would certainly have obliged."He adds: "It is no secret that the United States has never been comfortable with a Muslim country acquiring nuclear weapons and the Americans undoubtedly would have taken the opportunity of an invasion to destroy such weapons."Musharraf says he thus cut Pakistan's support for the Taliban, despite a possible backlash from radical Islamic groups in his country."Why should we put our national interest on the line for a primitive regime that would be defeated?" he asks. "Self-interest and self-preservation were the basis of this decision."-__ ___ _ ___ __ ___ _ _ _ __ /-_|-0-\-V-/-\|-|-__|-|-|-/-_| \_-\--_/\-/|-\\-|-_||-V-V-\_-\ |__/_|--//-|_|\_|___|\_A_/|__/ SPY NEWS is OSINT newsletter and discussion list associated to Mario's Cyberspace Station - The Global Intelligence News Portalhttp://mprofaca.cro.netSince you are receiving and reading documents, news stories,comments and opinions not only from so called (or self-proclaimed) "reliable sources", but also a lot of possible misinformation collectedby Spy News moderator and subscribers and posted to Spy Newsfor OSINT purposes - it should be a serious reason (particularly tojournalists and web publishers) to think twice before using it for theirstory writing, further publishing or forwarding throughout Cyberspace.To unsubscribe:mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]*** FAIR USE NOTICE: This message contains copyrighted material whose use has not been
Re: [CTRL] lizards in the white house
-Caveat Lector- Thanks, Mary, this looks great! Note that you have to go to the Services page of the website to download the novel. On Wed, Sep 27, 2006 at 08:44:48AM -0700, Mary Q wrote: Talk about your conspiracy theories! What species would knowingly wipe out its own kind, destroy its habitat, change its environment to one inhospitable to its own survival needs, and convince the members of its population that their lives would be better if they were all dead? Answer: none. It goes against basic survival instincts. Yet do not these seem to be the policies of GW Bush? Dick Cheney? Donald Rumsfeld, Pat Robertson, Paul Wolfowitz, Richard Perle, Douglas Feith and the rest of the neo conservatives that are steering the juggernaut of state faster and faster down the path to the abyss called Armageddon, and taking all humanity along with them? Haven't you asked yourself time and again what kind of insanity drives these people? Haven't you wondered if they truly can be too stupid and short sighted to see the consequences of their actions, or if there is some other hidden agenda? Perhaps the question you should ask is, are they really members of our species at all? I have a new novel which answers that question. It is available for free online at http://www.freeoriginalbooks.com. It's title: Lizards in The White House, Part One. I'm currently working on part two, and hopefully will be allowed to complete it by this coming Christmas. I'll be adding it then, along with other published and unpublished works of mine as I find time to get them on. A second offering, Once Upon Europa is already there. www.ctrl.org DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substanceânot soap-boxingâplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'âwith its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsâis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/ctrl@listserv.aol.com/ A HREF=http://www.mail-archive.com/ctrl@listserv.aol.com/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Fwd: [cia-drugs] Former Governor Jesse Ventura Questions Official 9/11 Story
-Caveat Lector- Begin forwarded message:From: "Vigilius Haufniensis" [EMAIL PROTECTED]Date: September 27, 2006 11:42:31 AM PDTTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: [cia-drugs] Former Governor Jesse Ventura Questions Official 9/11 StoryReply-To: cia-drugs@yahoogroups.com http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/september2006/260906venturaquestions.htmFormer Governor Jesse Ventura Questions Official 9/11 StoryGoes further than ever before, cites Northwoods, Gulf of Tonkin, NORAD stand down, staged war provocationsPaul Joseph Watson Alex Jones/Prison Planet.com | September 26 2006Former Minnesota Governor, actor and wrestling star Jesse Ventura has publicly questioned the official version of events behind 9/11 and gone further than ever before in citing Operation Northwoods and the Gulf of Tonkin as examples of how the government has planned and carried out staged war provocations in the past.Ventura has temporarily left his Baja Mexico surfing lifestyle to lend support to Texas gubernatorial candidate Kinky Friedman. At a press conference yesterday Ventura said that the Republicans and Democrats were "destroying our country" and its political process. Sporting a beard and dreadlocks, the former Vietnam veteran also criticized the Iraq war.Alex Jones and his film crew were able to set up a last minute interview with Ventura at a San Antonio restaurant after his appearance before a packed house at UTSA.Ventura first stated that he had many unanswered questions about 9/11. The former Governor cited Operation Northwoods, a 1962 Joint Chiefs of Staff plan to stage terror attacks and kill American citizens to start a war with Cuba, as an example of how the U.S. government wanted to kill its own people and blame it on foreign enemies to justify war. Ventura found it painful, having dutifully served himself, that elements within the government would go to such barbaric and deceitful lengths to con its own populace into supporting militarism.Ventura then raised the issue of the Gulf of Tonkin, citing recently released declassified information confirming that American ships were never attacked and the incident was manufactured in order to provide the entree to the Vietnam war. This was particularly unpalatable for Ventura because he joined as a Navy Seal on September 11 1969, fought in Vietnam and lost many friends there.Ventura asked that if the U.S. government were prepared to stage such a gargantuan historical event in terms of its significance in leading a nation to war then, why they would they refrain from doing so again today?Ventura also highlighted 9/11 itself in contrasting the lax response of NORAD air defense to the four commercial airliners on 9/11 compared with the immediate interception of golfer Payne Stewart's Lear Jet in October 1999.Ventura said that the argument that Americans should give up liberty in exchange for security in the war on terror was horrible and that government should never be trusted. He encouraged Americans to be skeptical of anything the government claims in light of their past duplicity.Ventura seemed visibly upset during the interview, calling the American public apathetic, seemingly wanting to say more, and was very cynical that any real investigation would take place having already witnessed the 9/11 Commission's whitewash.Ventura had previously aired his skepticism of the official version of events on Jay Leno and elaborated on a 2004 radio show but the former Governor went further than ever before during this interview.Clips of the interview will be posted tonight and tomorrow for free. Watch this space.__._,_.___ Complete archives at http://www.sitbot.net/Please let us stay on topic and be civil. OM SPONSORED LINKSIndependent broker dealerIndependent directorCentral intelligence agencyCentral intelligence agency employmentYour email settings: Individual Email|Traditional Change settings via the Web (Yahoo! ID required) Change settings via email: Switch delivery to Daily Digest | Switch to Fully Featured Visit Your Group | Yahoo! Groups Terms of Use | Unsubscribe __,_._,___= www.ctrl.org DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion & informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substanceânot soap-boxingâplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'âwith its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsâis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/ctrl@listserv.aol.com/ A HREF=""ctrl/A To
[CTRL] Fwd: [corp-focus] Elmo Will Not Absolve You
-Caveat Lector- Begin forwarded message:From: robert weissman [EMAIL PROTECTED]Date: September 27, 2006 3:33:11 PM PDTTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: [corp-focus] Elmo Will Not Absolve You ELMO WILL NOT ABSOLVE YOUBy Russell Mokhiber and Robert WeissmanJust returned from a run around the National Mall.Party tents are going up.Getting ready for the National Book Festival on Saturday.Hosted by the Library of Congress.Sponsored by Target and ATT.And starring Laura Bush.You will be seeing a lot of Laura Bush in the next couple of days.Talking with authors.Reading.Hanging out with kids.It's just a nice cover for the killing.We wanted to know more about the National Book Festival.So, we went to the Library of Congress web site.And we registered in the press area.And we got a call back from --Susie Schoenberger.She's not with the Library of Congress.She's with the public relations firm -- Fleishman Hillard.Since when is the Library of Congress outsourcing press duties?Anyway, we want to know -- whose paying for this?How much is Target putting up?How much is ATT?Can't answer that, Schoenberger says.You'll have to speak with Sheryl Cannady.She's with the Library of Congress.So, we call Cannady.And she sends us an e-mail saying that the one-day National Book Festival costs $1.5 million.But we can't tell you who pays for it.Great.In any event, you get the message.The web site is the Library of Congress.But the book festival itself is a corporate/Laura Bush affair.And no doubt the 70 authors who will appear at the book festival are wonderful people -- people like Kai Bird, Douglas Brinkley and Andrew Carroll -- and on the whole a book festival is a much better deal for the country than a military festival.But we also have little doubt that the corporate funding -- and Laura Bush's presence -- helped define the types of authors who appear at the Festival.Please don't tell us that it's just about getting kids to read.The question is not only reading -- but reading what?So, this year there has been a slew of books written about the war in Iraq and corporate power and the military-industrial complex that President Eisenhower warned us against.But the authors of these books will not appear at the National Book Festival on the Mall sponsored by Target and ATT -- and hosted by Mrs. Laura Bush.Will Cindy Sheehan appear to read from her new book -- Peace Mom?No.Will Elizabeth Holtzman appear to read from her new book -- The Impeachment of George W. Bush?No.Will Thom Hartmann appear to read from Screwed: The Undeclared War Against the Middle Class?No.Will Diane Wilson appear to read from her new book -- An Unreasonable Woman?No. (She'd probably be unreasonable enough to confront our First Lady of Bloodshed.)Will Edwin Black appear to read from his new book -- Internal Combustion: How Corporations and Governments Addicted the World to Oil and Derailed The Alternatives?No.Will Dr. Helen Caldicott appear to read from her new book -- Nuclear Power is Not the Answer?No.Will Noam Chomsky appear to read from his bestseller -- Hegemony or Survival: America's Quest for Global Domination?No.Will Amy and David Goodman appear to read from their new book -- Static: Government Liars, Media Cheerleaders, and the People Who Fight Back?No.Will Jeff Goodell appear to read from his new book Big Coal: The Dirty Secret Behind America's Energy Future?No.Will David Callahan appear to read from The Moral Center: How We Can Reclaim Our Country from Die-Hard Extremists, Rogue Corporations, Hollywood Hacks and Pretend Patriots?No.Will Gore Vidal appear to read from Imperial America: Reflections on the United States of Amnesia?No.Will Stephen Kinzer appear to read from his most recent book, Overthrow: America's Century of Regime Change from Hawaii to Iraq, or from his previous classic -- All the Shah's Men: An American Coup and the Roots of Middle East Terror?No.Will David Cortright appear to read from his masterful Gandhi And Beyond: Nonviolence for an Age of Terrorism?No.You get the idea.The National Book Festival is a public/private partnership -- read -- corporate controlled.And therefore, none of these authors will appear.Laura Bush will appear with kids and NBA players and community relations representatives from Target.She'll spend time with the Kevin Clash, an African-American man who is the voice of Elmo, and who has written a book titled My Life As a Furry Red Monster.Meanwhile, open today's Washington Post and go to pages A16 to A19.See the faces of the fallen.2,693 Americans dead in Iraq.So far.Hanging out with Elmo will not absolve you, Mrs. Laura Bush.Russell Mokhiber is editor of the Washington, D.C.-based Corporate Crime Reporter, http://www.corporatecrimereporter.com. Robert Weissman is editor of the Washington, D.C.-based Multinational Monitor, http://www.multinationalmonitor.org. Mokhiber and Weissman are co-authors of On the Rampage: Corporate Predators and the Destruction of Democracy (Monroe, Maine: Common Courage Press).(c) Russell
