[CTRL] UPI Confirms Kennedy Radioed Martha's Vineyard Airport
-Caveat Lector- UPI Confirms Kennedy Radioed Martha's Vineyard Airport By John A. Quinn/NewsHawk [EMAIL PROTECTED] 7-23-99 Here is the UPI article which states that JFK Jr. WAS IN CONTACT with flight controllers at Martha's vineyard Airport at 9:39 Friday evening, July 16. The UPI article ALSO states that both WCVB-TV in Boston AND ABC News reported the same CRUCIAL information. Additionally this radio contact by Kennedy has subsequently been confirmed through direct contact with airport personnel. This extremely significant information is what is now MISSING from EVERY SINGLE account of the event now being spewed by the robots in gutless, miserable cloned mass media outlets. THIS CRUCIAL INFORMATION HAS BEEN REMOVED FROM THE PUBLIC RECORD BECAUSE IT UTTERLY INVALIDATES THE OFFICIAL BULLSHIT WE ARE BEEN FORCE-FED ABOUT THE CAUSE OF JFK JR'S DEATH! As I've stated time and again this crucial information PROVES that seconds BEFORE Kennedy's plane went into a headlong dive there was not the SLIGHTEST indication of the much-regurgitated garbage that pilot error and/or mechanical malfunction (other than outright sabotage of a critical component of the aircraft) were responsible for this headlong, full-on nosedive to certain oblivion. NEITHER such fictional pilot error NOR any standard mechanical malfunction could POSSIBLY result in this craft dropping like a rock. Kennedy was at that moment engaged in no unusual or troublesome maneuvers. He had only SECOND BEFORE FINISHED HIS RADIO CALL! He knew EXACTLY where he was not only in relation to the coastline but also to the airport--10 miles from the coast and 13 miles from the airport. What's more, we have received additional confirmation from residents of the Connecticut shore and Martha's Vineyard that visibility was EXCELLENT in the area at this time--from 10 to 12 miles at least. In such conditions it's ludicrous to think the Kennedy would not been able to have seen at LEAST the GLOW from the many lights in the well-populated Martha's Vineyard area at the distance he was, and thus have been thoroughly able to distinguish direction in all senses of the word (altitude). The ongoing disinformation about poor visibility being the reason such an inexperienced pilot (which he was NOT!) would get completely discombobulated and fly into the sea is completely unfounded in fact. The guy was hardly hundreds of miles out over the middle of the Atlantic. Why then would he decide to land in the sea if he knew where he was in relation to the land? Please... spare me. Here is the pertinent text from about halfway through the UPI article. This is the TRUTH... BEFORE the spin-doctors and manipulators got to work. "At 9:39 p.m. Friday, Kennedy radioed the airport and said he was 13 miles from the airport and 10 miles from the coast, according to WCVB-TV news in Boston. He reportedly said he was making his final approach. "Moments later, radar operated by the Federal Aviation Administration showed the plane went into a dive and dropped 1,200 feet in just 12 seconds, according to ABC News. "In his final approach message, WCVB-TV said Kennedy told controllers at the airport that he planned to drop off his wife's sister and then take off again between 11 p.m. and 11:30 p.m. for Hyannis Airport." Other CRUCIAL information which has now been removed from all official accounts is the fact that a NUMBER of witnesses on the beach at Martha's Vineyard that evening INCLUDING a Vineyard Gazette reporter saw an AIRBORNE explosion at this same time right in that area of the sky where Kennedy was flying. I quote here the relevant text from the UPI article. "A reporter for the Vineyard Gazette newspaper told WCVB-TV in Boston that he was out walking Friday night about the time of the crash and saw "big white flash in the sky" off Philbin Beach." A report from about 3 PM on Saturday by Shephard Smith of FOX-TV named another one of these witnesses--in fact a guest at the scheduled wedding JFK. Jr. was due to attend AND a friend of Smith's producer at Fox. Every single flight instructor Kennedy ever had as well as other first-hand witnesses describe Kennedy as an extremely cautious and safety minded pilot. He also had HUNDREDS of hours of experience, NOT one hundred. For example here's a quote from a CNN article in which a FEDERAL PILOT EXAMINER who TESTED Kennedy's flying skills describes his abilities. http://www.cnn.com/US/9907/18/BC-CRASH-KENNEDY- LICENSE.reut/index.html ORLANDO, Florida (Reuters) -- A federal pilot examiner who tested John F. Kennedy Jr.'s flying skills said he was an "excellent pilot," a newspaper reported Sunday ..."He was an excellent pilot," John McColgan of Vero Beach, Florida, told the Orlando Sentinel. "I put him through the paces, and HE PASSED EVERYTHING WITH FLYING COLORS."... ...He said Kennedy had a lot of flight experience for someone with a pilot's license for 15 months... "He flew a lot," McColgan said. "In fact, by now he
Re: [CTRL] dizzney
-Caveat Lector- To me it seems that the real problem is that Disney has too much power with the parents, who then influence their own kids. Incredible marketing - questionable ethics. Regards Paul At 12:49 22/07/99 -0400, you wrote: -Caveat Lector- "The only people who can do this are Disney and Nickelodeon." A 1998 children's privacy law requires the FTC to regulate the data collection practices of Web businesses with content aimed at children. Disney really bothers me...they have way to much power with the kids and we all know who usually makes use of that...they don't call it programming for nothingI keep thinking about those animals in lion king doing the goose step for the bad lion... DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Fw: UPI-KENNEDY RADIOED VINEYARD AIRPORT!!!
-Caveat Lector- THIS CRUCIAL INFORMATION HAS BEEN REMOVED FROM THE PUBLIC RECORD BECAUSE IT UTTERLY INVALIDATES THE OFFICIAL BULLSHIT WE ARE BEEN FORCE-FED ABOUT THE CAUSE OF JFK JR'S DEATH+ACE- As I've stated time and again this crucial information PROVES that No, it is a version that United Press International is now putting forth...it 'proves' nothing, only that the disinformation campaign continues One can make the decision to accept this version over other versions that are being presented for public consumption...but it IS still just one possible version, and may in fact be totally made up. What's more, we have received additional confirmation from residents of the Connecticut shore and Martha's Vineyard that visibility was EXCELLENT in the area at this time--from 10 to 12 miles at least. I can't speak for Cape Cod, but while it wasn't foggy that night, it WAS extremely hazy along most of the CT shoreline, and an ozone alert (ozone causes haze) had been in effect since the day before One has to keep in mind that there is a vast difference between visibility distance on a horizontal plane, and that which may be visible on a vertical plane; e.g., when one hears the Weather Service saying 'visibility is 8 miles', they are usually referring to visibility at ground level looking towards the horizon, and NOT the amount of visibility a pilot would have looking down (usually greater visibility in haze from that angle)... such conditions it's ludicrous to think the Kennedy would not been able to have seen at LEAST the GLOW from the many lights in the well-populated Martha's Vineyard area at the distance he was, and thus have been thoroughly able to distinguish direction in all senses of the word (altitude). Even at 8 miles in haze, a GLOW of a populated area would be visible, and indeed is probably why he took the CT/RI shoreline route (if indeed he did), since that is an extremely populated area, and I-95 especially would have made an easy landmark to follow easthe may not have been able to make out land details, but the lights would have definitely been visible, and indeed haze would have magnified the glow, changing streetlights from pinpoints of light to a glowing ball... Here is the pertinent text from about halfway through the UPI article. This is the TRUTH... BEFORE the spin-doctors and manipulators got to work. Since when does the UPI become the epitome of 'truth'...? No, one has to keep in mind that this version could be as much a lie as any other version being fed to the public. +ACI-At 9:39 p.m. Friday, Kennedy radioed the airport and said he was 13 miles from the airport and 10 miles from the coast, according to WCVB-TV news in Boston. He reportedly said he was making his final approach. IF this is true, it creates the troublesome problem of why the Vineyard airport didn't raise an alert shortly after 10pm when Kennedy failed to arrive...and especially why the Vineyard airport seems to not have let authorities know about the contact for at least 12 hours, so that the first 12 hours of the search included all of Long Island Sound and the Atlantic south of Long Island westwards back to NJ, because authorities were saying all Saturday morning and well into Sat. afternoon that they had NO IDEA WHERE TO LOOK... Why didn't the Vineyard airport let the searchers know about the supposed contact with Kennedy at 9:39pm Friday night, so the searchers could have concentrated their search in the Vineyard vacinity? No, we are left with two troubling scenarios: either they are now LYING about this radio contact, and they indeed never were in contact with Kennedy; or they deliberately sat on this information for over 12 hours and allowed the searchers to waste time looking in areas the Vineyard airport personnel KNEW would not yield results -- IOW, 'someone' seems to have wanted to deliberately divert the early search and rescue attempt AWAY from the Vineyard... +ACI-Moments later, radar operated by the Federal Aviation Administration showed the plane went into a dive and dropped 1,200 feet in just 12 seconds, according to ABC News. And yet throughout most of last Saturday, when we were being told no one had any idea where the plane went down, we were being told Kennedy's flight path wasn't even known, since he was not required to file a flight plan and that due to the small size of the plane, NO RADAR TRACKING WAS DONE Last Saturday, it was really pushed onto the public the fact that there were NO radar sightings of the craft, given as an explanation as to why the search parties didn't know where to focus their search efforts. But then suddenly on Sunday, after the initial flotsam and jetsam washed up on Vineyard shores, radar 'evidence' magically materialized Other CRUCIAL information which has now been removed from all official accounts is the fact that a NUMBER of witnesses on the beach at Martha's Vineyard that evening INCLUDING a Vineyard Gazette reporter
Re: [CTRL] JFK Jr - Laser Blinded in the Night ?
-Caveat Lector- On Fri, 23 Jul 1999, Bill Kingsbury wrote: Only to you. To the rest of us who are assessing what the authorities are spoon feeding the public, it is NOT obvious what exactly happened. He never "lost control of the airplane"...? Even if it was blown to bits, he did lose control of it. We don't KNOW that it was 'blown to bits', we don't even KNOW that he ever lost control. What we are being TOLD, in a story that only surfaced 24 hours after he was reported missing, is that the airport was in contact with him at a certain time, and that radar purports to show a certain event happening to A plane presumed to be Kennedy's. And yet, when the story first broke, we were told the searchers had no idea where to look, since Kennedy not only did not have to file a flight plan, but due to the size of his plane IT WAS NOT TRACKED ON RADAR... And yet radar tapes mysteriously surfaced late Sunday... And late on Saturday, we're suddenly told he was talking to the Vineyard airport at 9:39 Friday night...raising the question as to why the airport didn't raise an alert shortly after 10pm when he didn't arrive, and especially why they allowed the search and rescue effort to cover 1000 square miles thruout Saturday, since the searchers didn't know where to look...and then suddenly, after flotsam and jetsam washed up on Cape Cod shores, the airport suddenly remembered talking to Kennedy the night before... Either the airport deliberately allowed the search to be diverted away from the Vineyard, or they indeed never talked to Kennedy, and this is a bit of disinformation that was released after items were planted in the Vineyard vacinity to give validity to the now accepted official version of events. So we don't KNOW that Kennedy even made it to Martha's Vineyard...since we, the public, are not being given any concrete EVIDENCE that he did, but are asked to ACCEPT the bits of info (which is more likely disinfo) that we are being given...we are being TOLD that the airport talked to him (but as I have shown, analysis of THIS story raises troubling questions), we are being TOLD a Piper was found of the Vineyard, that it had 3 bodies on it, and that these bodies are Kennedy and his wife and sister-in-law...but conveniently we now don't even have these BODIES as evidence, a sudden and drastic decision to cremate the bodies and scatter the ashes at sea having been made... Conveniently not providing future researchers with bodies which could be exhumed for independent study... Conveniently, we don't even have autopsy pictures available... No, we do not have EVIDENCE of ANYTHING happening, just what we are TOLD what happened The only thing we KNOW is that Kennedy and his wife and his sister-in-law aren't around...beyond that, everything is conjecture, rumor, and disinformation... ? What are you smoking ? You know next to nothing about what I accept or believe. You seem to be accepting the version that Kennedy even made it to Martha's Vineyard, and then his plane somehow crashed. But there is no EVIDENCE of that, at least not evidence that holds up to critical analysis. There is now an account that he talked to the airport, which then raises questions regarding their silence for so long...and we are now being shown supposed radar tapes, after the initial reports told us that he was NOT tracked/recorded on radar. Obviously there are lies, the question is what version is true, if any? DID the radar tapes created Friday night? If so, then why weren't the searchers deployed in the Vineyard vacinity? If the tapes didn't exist, then we are left with the answer that these tapes were created to fit a sceanario which is being touted as 'the truth of what happened'... If you notice, I was stating your deduction was in agreement with the (then) current "official story." No more, no less. Hardly, since what I'm saying is that ALL versions of what we are being told is disinformation...and that includes the 'flash of light' story. The FACT of the matter is, we don't have any unquestionable evidence that Kennedy even made it to Martha's Vineyard...the only thing that we can state with some assurance of validity is that he took off from New Jersey around 8:30 on Friday night, last seen heading west and then northwest... And he then disappeared off the scene. ANYTHING ELSE stated is solely conjecture, mostly based on the information and disinformation being given the public by the press, who in turn are being spoonfed by 'the authorities' June ;-) *===* Kite So many things you want to see And as you ask I'll set you free But as you fly You'll touch the sky And touch the heart Within me Fly away. -- Bob Childs
[CTRL] Politics of Celebrity
-Caveat Lector- WSWS : News Analysis : North America The death of JFK Jr. and the politics of celebrity By Martin McLaughlin 24 July 1999 Back to screen version A week-long media barrage on the death of John F. Kennedy Jr. culminated in the burial at sea Thursday of the ashes of Kennedy, his wife Carolyn and her sister Lauren, and the memorial service Friday in New York City. While both the burial and the funeral were private and closed to the press, the American media nonetheless gave them virtually continuous coverage, with the television networks showing hour after hour of long-distance shots of the naval warship from which the ashes were to be scattered and the cathedral in Manhattan where a select group of mourners gathered. The Clinton administration's authorization of the use of a Navy ship to conduct the burial at sea was unprecedented, given that the victims were private citizens who had never served in the military. This decision only underscored the quasi-official character of the whole process by which public opinion has been besieged with the claim that the death of JFK Jr. represents an enormous loss to society. There are contradictions too many to enumerate in the presentation of this fairly undistinguished multi-millionaire as a model of social virtue. Article after article, broadcast after broadcast, celebrates Kennedy's alleged role as a philanthropist and benefactor of the poor, although he did little more than follow the prescribed course for any scion of a wealthy capitalist family who wishes to present the image of noblesse oblige a little charity work, a few foundation meetings, all very useful for a future political resumé. One obvious question related to the plane crash remains unanswered. According to the media presentation, JFK Jr. was universally admired and beloved, a regular guy who befriended ordinary people, a man treasured by his elite friends. Why was it then, that none of these friends and admirers sought to prevent him from putting his life and the lives of his wife and sister-in-law at risk with the reckless decision to fly a small plane under adverse conditions? A colossal machinery has been set into motion to magnify the grief after the event, but there apparently was not a word of wisdom said beforehand. Thousands of Americans die in accidents every year, but none of these deaths are singled out as a national tragedy. On the contrary, the political and media establishment resolutely opposes drawing any social conclusions from such incidents, even when they are fairly obviousthe large number of tornado deaths among poorer sections of workers compelled to live in mobile homes, or the horrendous rate of road deaths among overworked truck drivers. Aside from concern that examination of the social implications of such accidents might pose a threat to corporate profits, there are broader ideological issues. The trend in America over the last several decades has been to reduce all the social evils produced by the profit systemhunger, homelessness, drug abuse, unemploymentto issues of individual responsibility. Yet in the death of John F. Kennedy Jr., the full power of the American media and the government is being mobilized to present the death of an individual who made no significant contribution to American society as a calamity of historical dimensions. In part, this could be attributed to the machinery of media manipulation going about its work almost automatically. It has become routine for the press and television to take any unfortunate event involving even a minor celebritysuch as the skiing death last year of Congressman Sonny Bonoand milk it for every possible drop of sentimentality. But the official response to the death of JFK Jr. goes beyond this. Other considerations are involved, some of them suggested by a column which appeared Wednesday in the Washington Post, written by Charles Krauthammer. First, a word about style. Krauthammer begins the column, Heir to Camelot, with a quote from Moby Dick, and ends it by comparing JFK Jr. to Prince Hal (the future Henry V of England). It is pretentious in the extreme to cite the writings of literary geniuses to describe an incident of so little intrinsic importance. References to Shakespeare and Herman Melville cannot give the death of John Kennedy Jr. the broad historical significance which it lacks. Krauthammer claims Kennedy's death evoked a feeling of national loss, the kind one feels at the death not just of youth but of royalty. American politics is democratic only in theory, he declares, In practice, we are lovers of dynasty. Kennedy was the only son of the assassinated president. And it is precisely the death with him of that nameand the redemption, nay restoration, that it promisedthat added so strangely and deeply to the sense of national loss at his death... Can there be any doubt
Re: [CTRL] Will K Family reimburse Taxpayers?
-Caveat Lector- Your world and welcome to it. I think it was assassination and it has just begun from that level and up. Watch look and listen, before you cross the street, use your eyes and use your ears before you use your feet. Yardbird wrote: -Caveat Lector- At least I haven't been stricken with kennediine spongiform encephalopathy; otherwise known as Mad Kennedy Disease (it has a tendency to cause the driving skills to become impaired and it's my guess JFKjr was suffering from the aforementioned illness when the US beef industry had him murdered to prevent the as-yet-suppressed fact that America's prince was infected through the eating of contaminated meat). Ask yourself this: Why are no photos being taken at the autopsy? To protect the family's privacy or to prevent the expose of a disease-addled brain? And is he being buried at sea for same or to prevent the spread of MKD to the greater public? Jamieson DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Why some of us fear Clinton?
-Caveat Lector- Bill Clinton sold out to the evil national security state years ago I don't understand why the far right keeps ranting on about Clinton. He might have been a "liberal" (however you want to define the term) years ago, but it's pretty obvious he has done nothing to challenge the corporate control of the American political apparatus. The fact that he makes overtures to groups that the Republican party has demonized during the past thirty years is just a matter of vote-getting. On Fri, 23 Jul 1999, Nicky Molloy wrote: -Caveat Lector- http://www.worldnetdaily.com/bluesky_nyquist/19990722_xcjny_why_some_u.shtml Why some of us fear Clinton? By JR Nyquist © 1999 WorldNetDaily.com The Bible teaches us to love our enemies and to hate no one. This is a very noble way to live, though few of us attain such grace. Perhaps the reason so few of us can love our enemies has to do with the link between hate and fear. If someone makes us afraid, we eventually come to hate that person. And, however brave some of us are, fear sometimes gets the better of us. It has sometimes been remarked that the so-called "far right" is irrational in its hatred of Bill Clinton. Many liberal media types think the impeachment of President Clinton was a mean-spirited, hate-inspired attack on a poor sick guy who suffers from a sexual addiction. Some leftists are especially baffled, because they don't see anything special about Clinton that is particularly threatening or dangerous. Well, it is time someone explained the right's fear of Bill Clinton. For if any of us hate Bill Clinton -- and certainly we shouldn't hate anyone, as the Bible says -- it is fear, at bottom, that inspires us. This is not a proud acknowledgement, but an honest one. Some of us really do fear Clinton. We experience his term in office as a dangerous time, as a time in which American institutions are exposed to corruption and degradation. It is a time when freedom is imperiled at home and national security is weakened abroad. I can hear my friends on the left chuckling at all this. Such nonsense, they say to themselves. Such right wing paranoia. But wait. Stop. Let me explain, by way of comparison, where the so-called "extreme right" is coming from. What if you were Jewish. Imagine how you would feel if America elected a president who, as a college student, had worked for a Nazi front organization, then made a trip to Hitler's Berlin (about which he is not very forthcoming). Imagine, also, that he married someone with ties to numerous anti-Semitic organizations, someone who idolizes Mussolini and Franco. How would you feel? I first heard of Bill Clinton 16 years ago. Here is how it happened. I was getting a teaching credential, and one of my classes was on adolescent psychology. The professor in this course, who was a very admirable teacher, seemed to favor me. One day, after class, she invited me to a 7 p.m. meeting at the Science Lecture Hall. At the time I didn't know she was a Marxist, and I didn't know the meeting would be political. She said that if I cared about education in the state of California I would attend. Having the night off from work I decided on going, partly owing to curiosity. Well, I couldn't have been more surprised if it had been a coven of witches. Arriving early at the Science Lecture Hall, I found communist literature -- books and pamphlets -- stacked on tables in the lobby. A visiting professor was the speaker. He gave a rousing talk on overthrowing the "dictatorship of the bourgeoisie" in America. How would this be accomplished? By taking over the Democratic Party through its left wing. The speaker said it was possible to elect a stealth socialist president, who would effect a peaceful transition to socialism during the next great economic down-turn. Capitalism would be unmasked as a bankrupt system. The people would then support a new socialist system. All businesses would be nationalized by the government and run like the Post Office. This socialist president, said the speaker, could be elected in either 1988 or 1992. The only problem was that of timing. When would the next major economic downturn hit? Some days later I went to visit my professor at her office hours. We talked about the speaker and the book he had written. We talked about Marxism and the idea of changing the system. Then, suddenly, my professor said: "We have such high hopes for this young Arkansas governor, Bill Clinton." That was the first time I heard Bill Clinton's name. But it wasn't the first time I'd heard this idea of taking over the left wing of the Democratic Party and electing a stealth socialist president. I'd first heard that idea in 1981, when I was a senior at the University of California. The left wing activist, Derek Shearer, came to speak on the subject of "economic
Re: [CTRL] Fwd: Democrats should be very afraid of GB2
-Caveat Lector- As president, GB2 would be a complete disaster for the United States... even more disastrous than having Gore as prez. With Dubba, we would see an escalation of the New World Order extermination program of the poor and lower middle class. It's not that Dubba is a monster. On the contrary, he's warm and personablekind of an overgrown frat boy rich white kid who has had intimate experience with booze, women and recreational drugs. Hell, I kind of like the guy. He's not your typical holier-than-thou bigoted fascist reptile that is so typical of the Grand Old Party. Personally, I like the idea of having a president who was once a bigtime sinner... He speaks Spanish fairly well...(..."sus ninos son mis ninos..") That goes over well in the hispanic community. The fact that he had his fingers in the cookie jar on more than one occasion, well, that's typical for Republican party honchos... But what worries me about Dubba is not Dubba It's his Daddy. A Dubba presidency will be the equivalent of having George Walker Bush sitting in the White House. We can then expect MORE brushfire wars, MORE Christian Right efforts to push their loony agenda on the rest of us, MORE defense contracts for fat cat corporationsmore of the same old same old. On Fri, 23 Jul 1999, Kris Millegan wrote: DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Why some of us fear Clinton?
-Caveat Lector- First, Thank you so much Nick for that article. It says it all to me. Second, William makes a statement which I feel is inconsistent with the article: He might have been a "liberal" (however you want to define the term) years ago, but it's pretty obvious he has done nothing to challenge the corporate control of the American political apparatus. If he is a one world socialist then he is part of a regime that has the corporations captive. Therefore he need not court them. Look at corporations now, they are frequently forced to use third world labor rates - socialistic employment to me - to compete because the markets are worldwide. If nationalism is gone, then corporations must go worldwide. Once they do that they are in the clutches of the one worlders. DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Fwd: BOSTON GLOBE-JFK Autopsy RUSHED!--MORE
Recipients-- Please note MAJOR questions re: Kennedy crash autopsies raised by the Boston Globe article quoted verbatim within the following email received by NewsHawk. The sender includes well-reasoned analysis of these quotes. BELOW this, is a forward of another email received by NewsHawk which zeros in a some highly pertinent factors regarding the missing flight trainer/co-pilot, first reported to have been on the flight and later said to be "in Europe". As IF, in a case like THIS--involving the untimely, not to say suspicious (as it now definitely is) death of a person who probably rivaled Princess Diana in terms of global popularity--this flight trainer is NOT going to have SOMETHING public to say, no matter WHERE ON THE FACE OF THE EARTH HE IS? THAT is DEFINITELY completely UNBELIEVABLE. If this person, Kennedy's personal flight trainer, HAD BEEN on board, then obviously he would have died too. Is it possible this person had no relatives and so few friends, acquaintances and such that literally no one on earth would notice their passing? This seems impossible. Why then hasn't this person spoken up, if in fact they are still alive? Or perhaps they are NOT -- whether due to the plane crash or some other, later convenient accident. As their statements would be powerfully important in this case, I wouldn't be TOO surprised if we never hear anything about this person again for the rest of time. John Quinn Subject: BOSTON GLOBE: JFK Autopsy Rushed Date: Sat, 24 Jul 1999 10:37:13 -0400 (EDT) From: John DiNardo [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] CC: John DiNardo [EMAIL PROTECTED] Again, reading from the Boston Globe (www.boston.com), July 23rd: BOSTON GLOBE: JFK Autopsy Rushed "Still, the autopsies in the Kennedy case were performed especially quickly," pathologists said. . "The haste [of the autopsies] in this case," he said, "could lead to questions about the investigation's thoroughness." "Pathologists also follow *COMPLEX RULES* for testing a pilot for drug and alcohol use," Dix said. [JD: They are supposed to follow "complex rules" in testing for drug or alcohol use, but they EVIDENTLY violated those rules, indeed, failed to follow them at all! Alcohol and/or drugs are a MAJOR causative suspect in airplane crashes. Remember Ricky Nelson's death in an airplane crash one New Year's Eve? Can someone find out if the coroner examined for substance abuse in that case?] . "The timing [brief time] of the Kennedy investigation [autopsy], Kirschner said, makes it unlikely that pathologists performed autopsies on Carolyn Bessette Kennedy or Lauren Bessette. You can't possibly do three investigations in four hours, he said." [JD: Well, of course the women's condition would have no effect on the control of the aircraft. But what if there were powder burns on their bodies, suggesting an explosion or a fire onboard? What if a lone nut gunmen had stowed away aboard the plane? After all, you must admit that lone nut gunmen have made a tradition of invading the lives of Kennedy's. Haven't they? What if the gunman was willing to sacrifice his own life? I'm not saying that I believe any of these scenarios. What I AM saying is that the coroner is SUPPOSED to examine the bodies for the POSSIBILITY of these scenarios having occurred. THAT IS HIS JOB!] "Passenger autopsies are also useful, Kirschner said, if a victim's family sues for damages related to the crash. A medical examiner could determine whether the victim suffered in the moments before death, or survived in the minutes or hours after the crash." [JD: Yet, despite the established practice of examining the bodies of passengers, and carefully examining the body of the pilot, in order to determine if the pilot was drinking or on drugs, thus permitting the victims to sue in case of pilot misconduct ... despite these rules, the women's bodies were not even autopsied! Unbelieveable! Actually, I think it is quite believable, judging from the first JFK autopsy at Bethesda Naval Hospital, which was judged by the nation's best assassination researchers to be an outrageously appalling fraud -- a continuation of the assassination cover-up. That is exactly what this second JFK autopsy is showing iself to be, also.] John DiNardo == Subject: 4th Person-JFK Flight Date: Sat, 24 Jul 1999 10:29:36 -0400 From: "Ronald T. Hannivig" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: "INTERNET:[EMAIL PROTECTED]" [EMAIL PROTECTED] If this person, Kennedy's personal flight trainer, HAD BEEN on board,then obviously they died too. Is it possible this person had no relatives and so few friends, acquaintances and such that literally no one on earth would notice their passing? This seems impossible. This simple, logical
[CTRL] Fwd: How Quickly We Forget
How quickly we forget that ONLY 48 HOURS AGO THIS was the top story on CNNs website: Answers Sought From Kennedy, Bessette Autopsies Well, then... Funny, isn't it, how WE DIDNT GET ANY Any guesses why NOT? And DON'T give me some limp baloney about the "horrible the condition of the bodies" and all. DUH! John Quinn/NewsHawk Inc. = Answers Sought From Kennedy, Bessette Autopsies (CNN July 21, 1999 Web posted at: 11:52 p.m. EDT) From Correspondent Dr. Steve Salvatore CNN -- As soon as the bodies of John F. Kennedy Jr, his wife and her sister were recovered from the waters off of Martha's Vineyard, Massachusetts, and brought to shore Wednesday, they were placed in white medical examiner trucks and taken to the Medical Examiner's Office in Pocasset. Massachusetts law requires that autopsies be conducted on accident victims, a process that usually takes 12 to 24 hours. Doctors will determine the cause of death for John and Carolyn Kennedy and her sister, Lauren Bessette. That discovery might shed light on what went wrong when the plane piloted by Kennedy plunged into the ocean Friday night. "I think it is important, because young people die of disease just like old people, and it can be very sudden," said Dr. Alan Schiller of Mt. Sinai Hospital. "They can have cerebral problems like an aneurysm or hemorrhaging from the brain. They can have cardiac problems that predispose them to sudden death." Doctors look at every possible contributing factor, like infections, noxious fumes and toxins which could contribute to disorientation. "We can also examine extraneous causes, such as alcohol levels, toxicology for drugs and a whole host of other things," Schiller said. The medical examiner's office will also review old medical records, X-rays and laboratory reports to search for pre-existing medical conditions that might have contributed to the accident. Because the plane crash was an unwitnessed transportation accident, an autopsy is usually mandatory. But experts say autopsies do more than just fulfill medical legal requirements. Autopsies bring closure, Schiller said, and provide lessons that can prevent similar tragedies in the future.
[CTRL] Fwd: 4th Person-JFK Flight
More Unanswered Questions About JFK Jr. Plane Crash What ever happened to the fourth person originally said to have been on board JFK Jr.'s ill-fated flight? If this person, Kennedy's personal flight trainer, HAD BEEN on board, then obviously they died too. Is it possible this person had no relatives and so few friends, acquaintances and such that literally no one on earth would notice their passing? This seems impossible. If this person was NOT on board the plane, then WHY HAVEN'T WE HEARD ONE WORD FROM THEM?!?!?! John Quinn/NewsHawk Original Message Subject: Anything More on the 4th Person? Date: Fri, 23 Jul 1999 21:37:46 -0700 From: XXX Reply-To: XXX To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://dailynews.yahoo.com/headlines/ts/story.html?s=v/nm/19990717/ts/kennedy_leadall_9.html Saturday July 17 1:06 PM ET Plane Carrying John Kennedy Jr. Is Missing By Ellen Wulfhorst snip Reports conflicted over whether a fourth person, a flight instructor, was on board. snip The Coast Guard in Wood's Hole said except for some low clouds and a bit of haze, there was nothing unusual about the weather Friday night between New York and Massachusetts. snip
Re: [CTRL] From the author of THE BIGGEST SECRET.
-Caveat Lector- Human sacrifice? Reptilian-human interbreeding? Strange doings at the Great Pyramid involving George Bush? On Fri, 23 Jul 1999, Tenorlove wrote: -Caveat Lector- So our computers are getting more more like TV, complete with summer re-runs. snort --- William Shannon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -Caveat Lector- THE ILLUMINATI MILLENNIUM RITUALS by Arizona Wilder Updated June 9th 1999 VERY IMPORTANT - PLEASE READ Arizona Wilder conducted human sacrifice rituals for the Illuminati elite for decades. These included the British Royal Family, George Bush, Henry Kissinger, and a stream of world famous names revealed in "The Biggest Secret" and the video, "Revelations of a Mother Goddess", available through this website (http://www.davidicke.com). Since she escaped from her mind controlled confinement, she has dedicated herself to exposing what is happening. I received this letter from her dated May 25th 1999 in which she details the key points in the Illuminati ritual programme running up to the Millennium. I should emphasize a few things for those who have not read "The Biggest Secret." The Illuminati, the clique which control the direction of the world, are genetic hybrids, the result of interbreeding between a reptilian extraterrestrial race and humanity many thousands of years ago. The centre of power is not even in this dimension -- it is in the lower fourth dimension, the lower astral as many people call it, the traditional home for the "demons" of folklore and myth. These fourth dimensional reptilian entities work through these hybrid bloodlines because they have a vibrational compatibility with each other. This is why the European royal and aristocratic families have interbred so obsessively, as do the so called Eastern Establishment families of the United States which produce the leaders of America. Every presidential election since and including George Washington in 1789 has been won by the candidate with the most European royal genes. Of the 42 presidents to Bill Clinton, 33 have been genetically related to two people, Alfred the Great, King of England, and Charlemagne, the most famous monarch of what we now call France. It is the same wherever you look in the positions of power.. they are the same tribe! As well as an obsession with interbreeding with each other to preserve their genetic structure, the Illuminati are also obsessed with symbolism and ritual. Interestingly, conventional science has documented that the reptilian part of the human brain (the R complex as they call it) is the source of the following behavior traits: An obsession with ritual, cold blooded behavior, territorialism "this belongs to me", and an obsession with top down hierarchical structures. This sums up the Illuminati mentality perfectly and it goes that if you have more of that R complex, or that it is activated more than normal, you will manifest these traits far more profoundly. But their ritual is not just for ceremonial purposes or gratuitous horror. The rituals are designed to rewire the energy fields and grids of the planet and therefore to fundamentally affect human consciousness. The rituals these bloodlines performed in the ancient world are the same as they do now. See The Biggest Secret for the background. They have a detailed annual calendar of events on which they perform their sacrifice rituals in line with key lunar, solar, and planetary cycles to harness that energy for their sick agenda to take complete control of Planet Earth in the very near future. With that background, here is the full text of the communication from Arizona Wilder. I will add my comments [between brackets] where more background may be needed for those new to these subjects. David Icke David - This information needs to go out to everyone as fast as possible. The Illuminati are conducting a ritual to be held at the Great Pyramid at Giza in Egypt, on August 11, 12, and 13th, 1999. (Specifically the Mothers of Darkness-the top conductors of rituals, will officiate). This ritual is "The Rite to Open the Passage" (the Eye of Horus). This will open the passage for lower fourth dimensional energy to be directed into the leylines of the Earth. This will [is designed to] also close the 3rd eye (consciousness) of all on this planet that oppose the Illuminati. It will further shut down [is designed to] the other people who are not actively aware or opposing the Illuminati but feel uneasy about what is going on and cannot figure out why. The solar eclipse which is to take place on August 11 [over the key Earth power centre of Cornwall, England] will also have a "Grand Square" which makes it extremely
[CTRL] OEN 7/24/99
-Caveat Lector- from: http://www.aci.net/kalliste/ A HREF="http://www.aci.net/kalliste/"The Home Page of J. Orlin Grabbe/A - Today's Lesson From The Communist Manifesto by Karl Marx Nevertheless, in the most advanced countries, the following will be pretty generally applicable. 1. Abolition of property in land and application of all rents of land to public purposes. 2. A heavy progressive or graduated income tax. 3. Abolition of all right of inheritance. 4. Confiscation of the property of all emigrants and rebels. 5. Centralization of credit in the hands of the State, by means of a national bank with State capital and an exclusive monopoly. 6. Centralization of the means of communication and transport in the hands of the State. 7. Extension of factories and instruments of production owned by the State, the bringing into cultivation of waste-lands, and the improvement of the soil generally in accordance with a common plan. 8. Equal liability of all to labour. Establishment of industrial armies, especially for agriculture. 9. Combination of agriculture with manufacturing industries; gradual abolition of the distinction between town and country, by a more equitable distribution of the population over the country. 10. Free education for all children in public schools. Abolition of children's factory labour in its present form. Combination of education with industrial production, c., c. = Year 2000 80 Countries Said to be at Risk for Y2K Failure Bill Cohen invites the Russians to Colorado Springs WASHINGTON - A State Department survey of 161 nations has found that about half of the countries face a medium to high risk of Year 2000 computer breakdowns in their telecommunications, energy and transportation sectors, which may have an impact on international trade. ''It would be prudent to recognize that Y2K-related failures are inevitable, both here and abroad,'' Jacquelyn Williams-Bridgers, the State Department's inspector general, told a Senate committee Thursday. Electronic disruptions - caused by computers with two-digit date fields that incorrectly interpret ''00'' as 1900 instead of 2000 - could range overseas from minor inconveniences, such as malfunctioning credit card terminals, to sustained power and phone outages causing economic and humanitarian hardships, Ms. Williams-Bridgers said. The State Department survey, drawn from assessments submitted over the past two months by U.S. embassies, found that highly industrialized countries are at a low risk of Y2K-related infrastructure failures, particularly in the finance sector. But the survey suggested that Russia and the other former Eastern bloc nations ''are a concern because of the relatively high probability of Y2K-related failures,'' the inspector general said. Ms. Williams-Bridgers did not identify the countries most at risk, but she offered some hints in her prepared testimony: South Korea got off to a late start and may not complete corrective work in time, India's electric power systems could prove vulnerable and Poland could face power blackouts. Power-grid failures due to computer glitches could cause Russian defense systems to shut down, Pentagon officials said Thursday. There is little worry about an accidental nuclear launch because Russian strategic weapons require humans to carry out key commands, but the Pentagon is concerned that the Russians might lose their early-warning capabilities and feel dangerously vulnerable to a sneak attack. As one confidence-building measure, Defense Secretary William Cohen said, the Russian government has been invited to send representatives to a specially built ''Y2K Center for Strategic Stability'' in Colorado Springs, Colorado, where both nations would share instant access to early-warning information. The Russians halted cooperation with the initiative in March because of the NATO bombing campaign in Kosovo, and they have not agreed to resume talks. Mr. Cohen, who had been seriously concerned a year ago that the Defense Department was moving too slowly on its computer work and made Y2K fixes a top priority, said that the Pentagon's roughly 10,000 computer systems would be ready for the Year 2000. The department has been conducting elaborate exercises to determine whether all the bugs have been found. Last week, for example, a test of the logistics supply chain involved more than 1,000 participants from all four services in 22 sites across the country. Mr. Cohen said further exercises will test linkages to prime vendors of military equipment. International Herald Tribune, July 24, 1999 Korea Daewoo Woes Send Korean Stock Market Plunging Down, down, down, while the flames burn higher. The Seoul stock market suffered a record 7.3 per cent one-day loss in heavy trading yesterday and bond yields rose sharply as worries mounted about Daewoo, South Korea's second biggest conglomerate, which narrowly escaped bankruptcy this week. Although banks have extended $3.3bn in fresh loans
[CTRL] Protect Your Data Privacy! (fwd)
-Caveat Lector- -- Forwarded message -- Date: Fri, 23 Jul 1999 15:2:25 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: ACLU ACTION UPDATE; Protect Your Data Privacy! TO: ACLU Action Network FR: Bob Kearney, ACLU Field Director DT: June 18, 1999 After months of much talk and little action, Congress will soon vote on several critical privacy issues. As you will see below, we are closely monitoring developments on the protection of financial and medical records and the security of information we give to obtain a driver's license. 1. Financial Records Privacy Public outrage at the erosion of data privacy has reached new highs. Yet at this very moment, Congress is poised to miss an opportunity to improve the privacy of our financial records! On July 1st, the House of Representatives passed HR 10, a financial services bill that fails to adequately protect financial privacy. At the same time the bill removes the legal walls that currently separate banks, securities firms and insurance companies, it fails to replace those walls with privacy protections to allow people to control the flow of personal information they submit to their bank or insurance company. This bill must be reconciled with a Senate version of the legislation. Please urge your members of Congress to push for real protections before it is too late! TAKE ACTION! See the list of protections that the ACLU is recommending to Congress, and send a FREE FAX that you can personalize to your member of Congress, from our action alert at: http://www.aclu.org/action/finprivacyhr10106.html 2. Medical Privacy Also contained in HR 10 is an amendment offered by Congressman Grag Ganske (R-IA) that purports to protect medical privacy. But this provision includes a laundry list of exceptions that will leave patients with virtually no protections for their medical records. In fact, the Ganske amendment actually offers weaker protections for medical records than current law! TAKE ACTION! Join the ACLU, the American Association of Retired Persons and more than 40 physicians' and patients' groups in opposing this provision. Tell Congress to reject this last minute attempt by the insurance industry to end-run the August 1999 deadline for new privacy rules. Our action alert with talking points and a FREE FAX you can send to Congress opposing this bill are on the ACLU website at: http://www.aclu.org/action/medprivacyganske106.html 3. Drivers' Information Alarmed by recent stories of the misuse of drivers' information, Sen. Richard Shelby (R-AL) included privacy protection language in this year's federal transportation spending legislation (S. 1143). Section 339 of the bill would return to drivers control over the personal information they disclose to get a driver's license. It would prohibit the federal government from giving highway money to states that peddle drivers' images and personal information without the consent of the driver. Law enforcement agencies would be exempt from the provision. Shelby's initiative has prompted an intense lobbying campaign by the Direct Marketing Association, which wants the language seriously weakened or removed entirely. The Shelby measure can be preserved only through an equally intense wave of public protest, raising the visibility of this issue among Senators who may soon be voting on the bill. TAKE ACTION! Our action alert and letter to congress can be found on the website at: http://www.aclu.org/action/drivers106.html --- DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Fwd: Pesticides in the News
- Forwarded message -- ===Electronic Edition . . . RACHEL'S ENVIRONMENT HEALTH WEEKLY #660 . . ---July 22, 1999--- . . HEADLINES: . .PESTICIDES IN THE NEWS . . == . . Environmental Research Foundation . . P.O. Box 5036, Annapolis, MD 21403 . . Fax (410) 263-8944; E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] . . == . .All back issues are available by E-mail: send E-mail to. . [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the single word HELP in the message. . . Back issues are also available from http://www.rachel.org. . . To start your own free subscription, send E-mail to . . [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the words . . SUBSCRIBE RACHEL-WEEKLY YOUR NAME in the message. . .The Rachel newsletter is now also available in Spanish;. . to learn how to subscribe, send the word AYUDA in an . . E-mail message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . = PESTICIDES IN THE NEWS Pesticides continue to produce unpleasant surprises around the world. ** In April, researchers in Switzerland announced that much of the rain falling on Europe contains such high levels of pesticides that rainwater would be illegal if it were supplied as drinking water.[1] Rain over Europe is laced with atrazine, alochlor and other common agricultural poisons sprayed onto crops. The European Union has set a drinking water standard of 100 nanograms per liter for any individual pesticide. Stephan Muller at the Swiss federal Institute for Environmental Science and Technology in Dubendorf reported finding one sample of rain containing 4000 nanograms per liter of 2,4-dinitrophenol, a common pesticide (not to be confused with the weed killer 2,4-D). Muller had previously studied samples of rain from 41 storms over Europe and found Atrazine at levels exceeding 100 nanograms per liter in 9 of them. A 1999 study of rainfall in Greece found one or more pesticides in 90% of 205 samples taken. Atrazine was measurable in 30% of the 205 samples.[2] Atrazine is a weed killer used on 96% of the U.S. corn crop each year. Introduced in 1958, some 68 to 73 million pounds were used in the U.S. in 1995, making it the best-selling pesticide in the nation. Atrazine interferes with the hormone systems of mammals. In female rats, it causes tumors of the mammary glands, uterus, and ovaries. Two studies have suggested that it causes ovarian cancer in humans. EPA [U.S. Environmental Protection Agency] categorizes it as a "possible human carcinogen." Atrazine is found in much of the drinking water in the midwestern U.S., and it is measurable in corn, milk, beef and other foods. (See REHW #553.) ** Last March, well-known Swedish scientists Lennart Hardell and Mikael Eriksson published a case-control study (404 cases and 741 controls) showing once again that non-Hodgkin's lymphoma (NHL) is linked to pesticide exposures. Hardell and Eriksson published their first study linking phenoxy herbicides to non-Hodgkin's lymphoma (NHL) in 1981.[3] Non-Hodgkin's lymphoma (NHL) is a group of cancers that arise in the white blood cells. NHL is increasing rapidly in the U.S. and elsewhere in the industrialized world. Between 1973 and 1991, the incidence of non-Hodgkin's lymphoma increased at the rate of 3.3% per year in the U.S., making it the third fastest-growing cancer (after prostate cancer, growing at 3.9% per year, and melanoma of the skin, also growing at 3.9% per year).[4] In Sweden, the incidence of NHL has increased at the rate of 3.6% per year in men and 2.9% per year in women since 1958. In recent years, AIDS patients have contributed to the increase in NHL, but a steady rise in the incidence of this disease was apparent long before the AIDS epidemic. Together the known "risk factors" for NHL --including immune-suppressing drugs, rare immune-system diseases, and AIDS, explain only a small proportion of NHL cases. One of the herbicides linked to NHL by the most recent Hardell study is glyphosate, sold by Monsanto under the trade name Roundup. A previous study of human subjects in 1998 had implicated Roundup in hairy cell leukemia (cancer of the blood-forming organs), a rare kind of NHL.[5] Several animal studies have shown that Roundup can cause gene mutations and chromosomal aberrations.[3] The use of Roundup is expected to increase substantially in the next few years because several of Monsanto's genetically engineered crops (such as potatoes and corn) are "Roundup Ready" which means they have
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-Caveat Lector- Hey all, check out my new website: A HREF="http://hometown.aol.com/JToys10/index1.html"tHe UnKnOwN /A Hope you like it. Odyssius [EMAIL PROTECTED] DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Neo-British Empire of the Crown - 500 Year Chronology http://www.msen.com/~lloyd/oldprojects/prjframe.html
-Caveat Lector- In answer to your letter below: I am familiar with "Dr." John Coleman's work. Unfortunately, I read it as it was written for articles first published in the World Economic Review, published by James Warner. There is no reason to think Coleman was an ex-British Intelligence Agent. It was extremely clear then that Coleman was simply cribbing from Lyndon LaRouche and adding a right-wing Nationalist spin. Never-the-less, there is a great deal of truth in Coleman's writing as there is in the writings of LaRouche. However, there is no truth in the Committee of 300 nonsense. Walter Rathenau, the German Jewish Financial Minister for the Weimar Republic and later assassinated by the Nazis, has stated that 300 people control the fate of Europe. This single statement, quite likely true in and of itself, has been confabulated into a "Committee of 300" by Coleman. This does ruling class/conspiracy theory a disservice. More and more folks in the conspiracy exposè movement are discrediting themselves by speaking of a "Committee of 300" in the same breath with well document groups such as the Trilateral Commission, CFR, Bilderbergers, and Royal Institute of International Affairs.almost as bad as otherwise credible folks believing in the "reality" of "Report from Iron Mountain" or the "Protocols of Zion".frustrating! *** Lloyd Miller, Research Director for A-albionic Research (POB 20273, Ferndale, MI 48220), a ruling class/conspiracy research resource for the entire political-ideological spectrum. Quarterly journal, book sales, rare/out-of-print searches, New Paradigms Discussion List, Weekly Up-date Lists E-text Archive of research, intelligence, catalogs, resources. To Discuss Ideas: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://msen.com/~lloyd/ For Ordering Info Free Catalog: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]http://a-albionic.com/formaddress.html For Discussion List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] text in body: subscribe prj [EMAIL PROTECTED] **FREE RARE BOOK SEARCH: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ** Explore Our Archive: http://a-albionic.com/a-albionic.html Every Diet Has Failed! What Can I do? Click Below to "Ask Dr. Kathleen"! http://www.radiantdiet.com/cgi-bin/slim/deliver.cgi?ask-1364 *** From: benjamin emerson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Neo-British Empire of the Crown - 500 Year Chronology http://www.msen.com/~lloyd/oldprojects/prjframe.html Hello James Daugherty, Greetings. My name is Ben Emerson and I have just been perusing your article whose title is mentioned in the subject line above. It is very interesting and informative. I have held for a long time that the British have posed a threat to the sovereignty of the USA. I had heard about Committee of 300, British Round Table, Milner's Kindergarten, Rhodes Scholarships, and other British organizations/activities by which they want to reclaim the lost colonies of their Empire, especially the United States of America. I am a patriotic American and would want to help through any legal means this eroding away of US sovereignty. I have long looked for a website that dealt with the various facets of this London-based conspiracy and am glad to have stumbled across your website. I live in Tennessee and am sad to say that Queen Elizabeth II owns land in East Tennesse and horse farms in Kentucky. The British have so many companies with US operations, like British Petroleum, Holiday Inn, Burger King, and US Air/British Airways. It is terrible how the Brits are trying to reclaim their lost American colonies, not so much militarily as economically. I understand that British troops often train at US military bases (such as Fort Bragg, NC) and even are privy to our latest spy technology such as at the FBI headquarters in Quantico, VA. Well, James, in my next message I'll tell you more about myself, including my religious affiliation. It is good to know that there are other people out there aware of this "British invasion" of the USA, especially as orchestrated by the Committee of 300. Have you ever met John Coleman, the author of that book? Please send a message back soon to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Take care. Thanks. Sincerely, Ben Emerson ___ Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to
[CTRL] KING-KILL/33°
-Caveat Lector-
(If you are a Mason you may not like this. --SW)
http://www.hoffman-info.com/kingkill33.html
KING-KILL/33°
Masonic Symbolism in the Assassination of John F. Kennedy
By James Shelby Downard with Michael A. Hoffman II
Copyright©1987 by James Shelby Downard. All Rights Reserved.
The information I present in these pages on the Kennedy assassination is
well-known to certain news agencies who have chosen to suppress it, just
as the motivation for the assassination has been plunged into cryonic
secrecy. Masonic betrayal of the "common man" involves archetypes of
fertility and death symbolism seemingly motivated to bring about
syncretism in opposing principles in order to green Israel, rebuild the
Temple of Solomon and establish a One World government.
It is by way of Masonic sorcery that the union of opposing principles is
supposed to be brought about. The criminals who stage-managed Dallas
in the killing of Kennedy have controlled the American people's will in
exchange for a sleep without nightmares. I publish this in the wake of the
situation Charles Seymour alluded to: "The moralist unquestionably
secures wide support; but he also wearies his audience." Most Americans
are beyond being tired; the revelations have benumbed them.
Most Freemasons apparently have no idea of the evil that is part of
Masonry, and if they do know about it they don't believe it. The same holds
true for most members of the "Clandestine Lodges" and Masonic-oriented
fraternal organizations as well as Androgynous Masonic Societies.
It is certain that onomatology, or the science of names, forms a very
interesting part of the investigations of the higher Masonry --
(Encyclopedia of Freemasonry)
When the ancients saw a scapegoat, they could at least recognize him for
what he was: a pharmakos, a human sacrifice. When modern man sees
one, he does not, or refuses to, recognize him for what he IS; instead he
looks for "scientific" explanations-to explain away the obvious.
--Thomas Szasz, (Ceremonial Chemistry)
The "science of names" word wizardry forms only one segment of the
science of symbolism used by Masons. The JFK assassination encounters
this science in a decisive way and contains a veritable nightmare of symbol-
complexes having to do with violence, perversion, conspiracy, death and
degradation. These elements are important not only as cause-and-effect in
the murder of a president but in the ensuing reaction of the people of
America and the world.
The fertility and death symbolism in the "Killing of the King" rite which is
part of Greening Ritualism that has to do with JFK, has been suppressed
because examination of it must necessarily link it to "Freemasonry" and its
mysticism, as well as to the political influence it exerts. Obviously this would
do some damage to public confidence in:
a. Masonic progressivism. i.e. Iiberty, equality, fraternity.
b. Those who have shielded the conspirators.
c. The entire mental concept that passes for knowledge about the genuine
nature of the government of the United States.
Mystical Toponomy
Mystical toponomy incorporates word wizardry (onomatology) and the
Masonic science of symbolism. In considering my data it would be helpful
to consider a dictum of Einsteinian physics: "Time relations among events
are assumed to be first constituted by the specific physical relations
obtaining between them."
My study of place names imbued with sorcerous significance necessarily
includes lines of latitude and longitude and the divisions of degrees in
geography and cartography (minutes and seconds).
Let us take as an example the "Mason Road" in Texas that connects to the
"Mason No El Bar" and the Texas-New Mexico ("The Land of
Enchantment") border. This connecting line is on the 32nd degree. The
32nd degree is the penultimate Masonic degree awarded. When this 32nd
degree of latitude is traced west into the "Land of Enchantment" it
becomes situated midway between Deming and Columbus, New Mexico.
Slightly to the north of the town of Columbus are the Tres Hermanas (three
sisters) mountains. It is approximately 32 miles between Deming and
Columbus. The Three Sisters mountains are a minute and some seconds
south of the 32nd degree line. When this line is traced further west it
passes the ghost town of Shakespeare at a distance south of the town
which is roughly equivalent to the distance which the 32nd degree line
passes north of the Three Sisters mountains. The names "Shakespeare"
and "Three Sisters" find a connection in the tragedy Macbeth which
comprises such a large part of JFK assassination imagery.
When this 32nd degree line is traced a little distance farther west, into
Arizona, it crosses an old trail which meandered north of what is now
another ghost town but which at one time was called the town of "Ruby."
Part of the old winding trail became known as the "Ruby Road." The town
of Ruby acquired its name officially on April 11, 1912, and was notorious
for many brutal
[CTRL] Scientist faked data linking electromagnetic fields to cancer, reports indicate
-Caveat Lector- "The scientific findings are not wrong. They criticized me for how I graphed the data," Liburdy told the Chronicle. "It is a matter of scientific opinion. They are not talking about the data being invalid. They are talking about the interpretation of the data." Scientist faked data linking electromagnetic fields to cancer, reports indicate Copyright © 1999 Nando Media Copyright © 1999 Associated Press SAN FRANCISCO (July 23, 1999 4:39 p.m. EDT http://www.nandotimes.com) - Key scientific data connecting electromagnetic radiation with cancer was faked by a researcher who was forced to resign from Lawrence Berkeley National Laboratory, according to published reports. The results of a federal probe into Robert P. Liburdy's research, which found he had committed scientific misconduct by tossing out data that didn't support his conclusions, were reported by the San Francisco Chronicle Friday and appeared June 30 in Science Now, the Internet edition of the journal Science. More than 20 studies in the years since Liburdy's research appeared in several journals in 1992 have found little hard evidence that the magnetic fields around electric power lines cause cancer, a National Institutes of Health panel concluded recently. Still, the possibility has raised fears among people living near high-tension power lines and other sources of the radiation, since Liburdy's work tied the invisible emanations to a variety of illnesses, including childhood leukemia. While the suggestion had been raised previously, Liburdy's studies, reported in scientific journals in 1992, provided the first plausible biological mechanism linking electromagnetic fields exposure to disease. Lawrence Berkeley Lab investigated Liburdy after a whistleblower challenged his results. In July 1995, the lab concluded Liburdy had falsified data, and it alerted the Office of Research Integrity, an arm of the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services. A separate probe by that office determined Liburdy, who received $3.3 million in federal research grants, had committed scientific misconduct by "intentionally falsifying and fabricating" his data to support assertions of cellular effects from electric and magnetic fields. Liburdy, 51, who lives in Tiburon, just north of San Francisco, resigned his 15-year position in March after the lab pulled his funding. In May, he agreed with the government to retract three graphs supporting his conclusions, but denied doing anything wrong. He said he agreed to a three-year ban on receiving federal funds only because he couldn't afford to fight them in court. "The scientific findings are not wrong. They criticized me for how I graphed the data," Liburdy told the Chronicle. "It is a matter of scientific opinion. They are not talking about the data being invalid. They are talking about the interpretation of the data." The June report to Congress by a division of NIH said the electromagnetic- cancer link could not definitively be ruled out. While the link is tenuous, it said, exposure to the radiation "cannot be recognized as entirely safe." Steve Wingate California Director SKYWATCH INTERNATIONAL Anomalous Images and UFO Files http://www.anomalous-images.com DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Fw: [Y2K] Fw: Martial Law
-Caveat Lector- -Original Message- From: Olga Jones [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Sunday, 25 July 1999 10:25 Subject: [Y2K] Fw: Martial Law The following was sent to me by a friend who is an attorney. Regards, Olga William J. Olsen William J. Olson, P.C., Attorneys at Law (http://www.wjopc.com/) Expert in Presidential abuses of power via the Executive Order. Some folks feel with the callup of military forces and police units for January 1 Y2K possiblities, it sets the stage for martial law to be declared in America on Jan 1. Click on this web page's "Constitutional Law" icon to read these disturbing reports: 1. Constitutional Criminal Federal Offenses 2.Presidential Powers To Use the U.S. Armed Forces To Control Potential Civilian Disturbances 3.Legal Report: Executive Orders and National Emergencies http://www.wjopc.com/ Mr. Olsen will be on Art Bell Monday, July 26th, 1999. Please try to hear this inteview. ~~~ y2k-homestead is brought to you by: J.R., SueQ, Gypsy, Virginia, Sparky, Olivia, Rambette, Harvey, Jana, Laura, Lisa, Anonymous, Pumphrey, Spook, Frank, Walt and Deborah! ~~~ To Unsubscribe, Switch to Digest (plus more list help) and Chat: http://www.homestead.com/earthmom ~~~ DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Fwd: SNET: Foreign troops here to practice rounding up dissenters !
Ohmygod, we're done fer now!!! - SNETNEWS Mailing List Foreign Troops and National Guard Preparing for Y2K - Grayling, Michigan was the location for a unique training exercise called the Partner Challenge 1999, which took place during the weekend of June 18th and ended Tuesday, June 22. Three states and three European countries were in the middle of peacekeeping games as they trained at Camp Grayling. It couldn't be better, said Col. Joe McDowell of the Michigan National Guard - quoted in the Traverse City Record Eagle, June 19th. To bring people in (from) three states and three different countries and have everything jell perfectly is just amazing. According to the Record Eagle, Soldiers also will take in a land navigation course and will practice taking over and securing an area where they face dissenters and people begging for food and money. After some training, these guys will be very good at their American tactics and they will learn a lot here, Lt. Ervins Gailas, platoon leader of Latvian National Guard said. Franklin Frith - y2kcoming.com, attended the Michigan State Police - Emergency Management Division Y2K Regional Symposium on June 23, 1999 in Grayling, Michigan. Col. Dennis Hull, Emergency Management Coordinator for the Michigan National Guard stated that the armories throughout the State of Michigan have been trained to respond without higher level command. The response that Col. Hull refers to was referred to by Deputy Secretary of Defense John Hamre in his memo to the various military departments in February 1999. It is also referred to in the Department of Defense Directive .1 - Military Support to Civil Authorities. The documents have been referred to by Deputy Secretary of Defense John Hamre and the Federal Emergency Management Agency for response to Y2K consequences. Col. Hull also stated that the national guard is prepared to activate state military emergency operations center and joint military operations. We have developed a special national guard response plan for Y2K. Conducting exercises with foreign troops to handle dissenters begging for food and money may be due to the fact that Deputy Secretary of Defense John Hamre stated that the armed forces and reserves would fulfill their first responsibility of meeting war-fighting abilities before providing military support to civil authorities. Col. Hull stated that the National guard is federally funded, trained by the federal government and all of the equipment is owned by the federal government...The president can federalize the guard and use them however he wants. The Federal Emergency Management Agency (FEMA) has said that the Federal Response Plan operations will be functional through the Y2K conversion period. The Department of Defense Memo dated, February 22, 1999 defines the transition period to be from September 1, 1999 - March 31, 2000. In the event of a major disaster requiring a national response on behalf of FEMA, the U.S. Army would be the executive agent. According to Col. Hull, there is a plan with the department of Army for a Y2K event on a national level. The Army has a plan to use the National Guard. The national guard would be federalized for the Army to use them. In response to problems in Michigan, Col. Hull stated that an Executive order already has been typed up for the State to declare either an emergency or disaster for a fast response. Public act 390 - Michigan Emergency Management Act explains the powers of the governor and the consequences of disobeying his orders. Describing the Guard's view of the Y2K problem, Col. Hull stated We do not know the level of this man-made emergency. Franklin Frith has contacted various individuals with the National Guard and will provide more information in the near future. For more information, contact Franklin D. Frith at (810) 796-2037 or Email him at [EMAIL PROTECTED] Franklin addresses communities at no costs and works on donations only. He has addressed hundreds of local governments, communities and churches regarding the real consequences of Y2K with documented facts. No opinions, rumors or commentary. You can visit his web-site for more information and his speaking schedule. - Send "subscribe snetnews " to [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Posted by: "Mark A. Smith" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [CTRL] Why some of us fear Clinton?
-Caveat Lector- -- From: William Hugh Tunstall [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Bill Clinton sold out to the evil national security state years ago I don't understand why the far right keeps ranting on about Clinton. Why don't you understand why the "far right" is opposed to Clinton? Are you in favor of "the evil nataional security state"? If not, why are you surprized that others might be fearful of a president who has "sold out" to it? He might have been a "liberal" (however you want to define the term) years ago, but it's pretty obvious he has done nothing to challenge the corporate control of the American political apparatus. The post to which you have made the above answer does not, in fact, accuse Clinton of being a "liberal". It accuses him of being a Marxist or a Communist. Its only mention of "liberals" was in questioning their support of him. Further, if (as has been suggested by many on this list) communism was created by the elite as a method of control, then why would they want him to "challenge the corporate control of the American political apparatus". That would get him killed like at least one Kennedy, if not more. The fact that he makes overtures to groups that the Republican party has demonized during the past thirty years is just a matter of vote-getting. On Fri, 23 Jul 1999, Nicky Molloy wrote: -Caveat Lector- http://www.worldnetdaily.com/bluesky_nyquist/19990722_xcjny_why_some_u.shtml Why some of us fear Clinton? By JR Nyquist © 1999 WorldNetDaily.com The Bible teaches us to love our enemies and to hate no one. This is a very noble way to live, though few of us attain such grace. Perhaps the reason so few of us can love our enemies has to do with the link between hate and fear. If someone makes us afraid, we eventually come to hate that person. And, however brave some of us are, fear sometimes gets the better of us. It has sometimes been remarked that the so-called "far right" is irrational in its hatred of Bill Clinton. Many liberal media types think the impeachment of President Clinton was a mean-spirited, hate-inspired attack on a poor sick guy who suffers from a sexual addiction. Some leftists are especially baffled, because they don't see anything special about Clinton that is particularly threatening or dangerous. Well, it is time someone explained the right's fear of Bill Clinton. For if any of us hate Bill Clinton -- and certainly we shouldn't hate anyone, as the Bible says -- it is fear, at bottom, that inspires us. This is not a proud acknowledgement, but an honest one. Some of us really do fear Clinton. We experience his term in office as a dangerous time, as a time in which American institutions are exposed to corruption and degradation. It is a time when freedom is imperiled at home and national security is weakened abroad. I can hear my friends on the left chuckling at all this. Such nonsense, they say to themselves. Such right wing paranoia. But wait. Stop. Let me explain, by way of comparison, where the so-called "extreme right" is coming from. What if you were Jewish. Imagine how you would feel if America elected a president who, as a college student, had worked for a Nazi front organization, then made a trip to Hitler's Berlin (about which he is not very forthcoming). Imagine, also, that he married someone with ties to numerous anti-Semitic organizations, someone who idolizes Mussolini and Franco. How would you feel? I first heard of Bill Clinton 16 years ago. Here is how it happened. I was getting a teaching credential, and one of my classes was on adolescent psychology. The professor in this course, who was a very admirable teacher, seemed to favor me. One day, after class, she invited me to a 7 p.m. meeting at the Science Lecture Hall. At the time I didn't know she was a Marxist, and I didn't know the meeting would be political. She said that if I cared about education in the state of California I would attend. Having the night off from work I decided on going, partly owing to curiosity. Well, I couldn't have been more surprised if it had been a coven of witches. Arriving early at the Science Lecture Hall, I found communist literature -- books and pamphlets -- stacked on tables in the lobby. A visiting professor was the speaker. He gave a rousing talk on overthrowing the "dictatorship of the bourgeoisie" in America. How would this be accomplished? By taking over the Democratic Party through its left wing. The speaker said it was possible to elect a stealth socialist president, who would effect a peaceful transition to socialism during the next great economic down-turn. Capitalism would be unmasked as a bankrupt system. The people would then support a new socialist system. All businesses would be nationalized by the government and run like the Post Office. This socialist president, said the
[CTRL] Fw: [prj] Foreign troops here to practice rounding up dissenters !
-Caveat Lector- -Original Message- From: Mark A. Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mark [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Sunday, 25 July 1999 11:00 Subject: [prj] Foreign troops here to practice rounding up "dissenters" ! Free Rare/Out-of-Print Book Searches - Ruling Class/Conspiracy Experts: E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** END Foreign Troops and National Guard Preparing for Y2K - Grayling, Michigan was the location for a unique training exercise called the Partner Challenge 1999, which took place during the weekend of June 18th and ended Tuesday, June 22. Three states and three European countries were in the middle of peacekeeping games as they trained at Camp Grayling. It couldn't be better, said Col. Joe McDowell of the Michigan National Guard - quoted in the Traverse City Record Eagle, June 19th. To bring people in (from) three states and three different countries and have everything jell perfectly is just amazing. According to the Record Eagle, Soldiers also will take in a land navigation course and will practice taking over and securing an area where they face dissenters and people begging for food and money. After some training, these guys will be very good at their American tactics and they will learn a lot here, Lt. Ervins Gailas, platoon leader of Latvian National Guard said. Franklin Frith - y2kcoming.com, attended the Michigan State Police - Emergency Management Division Y2K Regional Symposium on June 23, 1999 in Grayling, Michigan. Col. Dennis Hull, Emergency Management Coordinator for the Michigan National Guard stated that the armories throughout the State of Michigan have been trained to respond without higher level command. The response that Col. Hull refers to was referred to by Deputy Secretary of Defense John Hamre in his memo to the various military departments in February 1999. It is also referred to in the Department of Defense Directive .1 - Military Support to Civil Authorities. The documents have been referred to by Deputy Secretary of Defense John Hamre and the Federal Emergency Management Agency for response to Y2K consequences. Col. Hull also stated that the national guard is prepared to activate state military emergency operations center and joint military operations. We have developed a special national guard response plan for Y2K. Conducting exercises with foreign troops to handle dissenters begging for food and money may be due to the fact that Deputy Secretary of Defense John Hamre stated that the armed forces and reserves would fulfill their first responsibility of meeting war-fighting abilities before providing military support to civil authorities. Col. Hull stated that the National guard is federally funded, trained by the federal government and all of the equipment is owned by the federal government...The president can federalize the guard and use them however he wants. The Federal Emergency Management Agency (FEMA) has said that the Federal Response Plan operations will be functional through the Y2K conversion period. The Department of Defense Memo dated, February 22, 1999 defines the transition period to be from September 1, 1999 - March 31, 2000. In the event of a major disaster requiring a national response on behalf of FEMA, the U.S. Army would be the executive agent. According to Col. Hull, there is a plan with the department of Army for a Y2K event on a national level. The Army has a plan to use the National Guard. The national guard would be federalized for the Army to use them. In response to problems in Michigan, Col. Hull stated that an Executive order already has been typed up for the State to declare either an emergency or disaster for a fast response. Public act 390 - Michigan Emergency Management Act explains the powers of the governor and the consequences of disobeying his orders. Describing the Guard's view of the Y2K problem, Col. Hull stated We do not know the level of this man-made emergency. Franklin Frith has contacted various individuals with the National Guard and will provide more information in the near future. For more information, contact Franklin D. Frith at (810) 796-2037 or Email him at [EMAIL PROTECTED] Franklin addresses communities at no costs and works on donations only. He has addressed hundreds of local governments, communities and churches regarding the real consequences of Y2K with documented facts. No opinions, rumors or commentary. You can visit his web-site for more information and his speaking schedule. A Growing Selection of A-albionic's Books Can Be Browsed and Purchased Conveniently in the Shopping Cart at http://a-albionic.com/shopping.html END DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy
[CTRL] Y2K Conspiracy Goes Mainstream by Declan McCullagh
-Caveat Lector- -Original Message- From: Nelwyn Thurman [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Sunday, 25 July 1999 10:53 Subject: Re: [Y2K] Y2K Conspiracy Goes Mainstream Have you any idea how to go about getting that attorney's handout? I'd dearly love to see it. He's done work I've been too busy to do. Nelwyn - Original Message - From: Mike Marshall [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; NAYCAG [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, July 24, 1999 3:01 PM Subject: [Y2K] Y2K Conspiracy Goes Mainstream I know Declan McCullagh is somewhat of a scaremonger, but it there is any truth to this article, it is quite scary. Michael Marshall Visit: http://www.northalabama-y2k.com When the going gets toughRUN! Y2K Conspiracy Goes Mainstream by Declan McCullagh 3:00 a.m. 15.Jul.99.PDT WASHINGTON -- For many Y2K fanatics, the scariest threat on 1 January 2000 is not technology at all. It's the far more sinister specter of a power-mad president imposing martial law. Dark visions of US Marines stomping through backyards on New Year's Eve 1999 are a staple of innumerable Y2K discussion groups. A typical post: "There is nothing secret about the fact [that the] US, UK and Canada are preparing for martial law." These sorts of ruminations are no longer the sole domain of fringe conspiracy buffs. They got a boost Wednesday from a conference hosted by the staid US Reserve Officers Association, an eminently respectable organization that Congress chartered in 1920. During the full-day meeting, titled "National Conference on Presidential Powers and Executive Orders," and organized by an anti-UN advocacy group, legislators and lawyers warned that President Clinton could see Y2K disruptions as a convenient excuse to call out the troops and declare martial law. "President Clinton might take that opportunity?" asked an audience member from Concerned Women for America. "That is my fear," replied Representative Jack Metcalf (R-Washington). "It seems to me that the only emergency that we might see coming is the Y2K. [With] a power-hungry president, who knows what he might do." Conference organizer Cliff Kincaid agreed: "It appears we don't have a President anymore. We have a king." Kincaid is head of America's Survival, which is devoted to combating global organizations in general and the UN in particular. Attendees seemed suitably scared. Carolyn Betts, who was reading The Day After Roswell, said she suspected a clandestine agency had bombarded her office in Washington with high-frequency audio. "Both the people and the dogs had diarrhea," said Betts, and the masonry started to crumble. For real Y2K conspiracy fans, the highlight of the day was a presentation by William Olsen, a lawyer at a McLean, Virginia, law firm. "We're headed on the road to tyranny," he said. Olsen declined to predict whether martial law -- or similar restrictions, such as military courts, seizure of private property, and suspension of normal due-process rights -- would definitely happen due to Y2K. But he did distribute to the 30-person audience a 27-page legal document he had co-authored. It shows, in exhaustive detail, that whoever occupies the Oval Office has near limitless power to declare emergencies and call out the troops, as President Wilson did in 1914 when he ordered the Army into Colorado with orders to disarm all residents and even police. Could it happen again? Quite possibly, Olsen said. "One wonders what the reaction will be next time." There have been earlier signs that some Washingtonians are considering an aggressive response to Y2K. Senator Robert Bennett, the Utah Republican who chairs the Senate Y2K task force, has asked the Pentagon what plans it has "in the event of a Y2K-induced breakdown of community services that might call for martial law," and a House subcommittee has recommended that President Clinton consider declaring a Y2K "national emergency." Like Olsen, other conference-goers cited history as evidence that martial law could go into effect. They pointed to President Lincoln, who usurped constitutional authority in well-chronicled ways. During the Civil War and Reconstruction, Lincoln's government arrested and tried civilians in military and civilian courts, ignoring rules of habeas corpus. This led to the passage of the Posse Comitatus Act, which restricts using the military for domestic law enforcement. Lincoln's justification was the inherent power of the commander-in-chief and his duty to "take Care that the Laws be faithfully Executed." When it comes to the use of troops to restore order during riots, however, the President can suspend the Posse Comitatus Act with the stroke of a pen. The law doesn't cover soldiers deployed as authorized by the Constitution or exempted from the act
Re: [CTRL] Information on the Mormons and gov't agenices
-Caveat Lector-
Hi !
The first two parts of this post have information on the Mormons. The second
two have information on MK-Ultra.
Sincerely, Neil Brick
from : http://members.aol.com/SMARTNEWS/Sample-Issue-19.htm
"Mormonism, Masonry and Godhood - Can Angels be Trusted" by Dr. Cathy Burns.
Please use caution while reading this. It may be triggering. The book is
Christian in nature and contains quotes from the Bible.
Joseph Smith (Junior) was born in Vermont in 1805. "Joe himself was
known for (allegedly) being lazy, lying and exaggerating, as well as having
an attraction to several occult pratices including fortune telling and
divining." (Pg. 5) When he was 19, he found "himself in court charged with
vagrancy and fraud." (Pg. 7)
Polygamy was "an everlasting covenant". Smith had 49 wives, Brigham
Young, his successor had 27 wives. (Pg. 41)
One part of Mormonism is "Baptism of the Dead." "It costs over $10
million dollars a year to maintain these (baptizing) facilities...(they
believe) only baptized Mormons can attain godhood." (Pg. 51)
"Joseph Smith, Senior...was (allegedly) a firm believer in witchcraft
and other super natural things..." (Pg. 54) "(He) was also well-known in his
community for (allegedly) using blood sacrifices in his magic rituals to find
hidden treasure." (Pg. 56)
"...In The Satanic Bible "Mormo" is listed as one of the...names for
Satan...Mormo is also listed as the "King of Ghouls ..." (Pg. 63-64)
From pages 72-85, Ms. Burns shows some parallels between the Mormons
and the Masons, including: The Five Points of Fellowship (which has alleged
connections to Satanism)," Smith and Young were both Masons, "1500 Mormons
were kicked out of Masonry...thereafter, the Temple ceremony of Mormonism
came into effect." (Pg.75), many rites and rituals are similar, many oaths
were similar including threats of death (for revealing the tokens of Aaronic
priesthood), and levels of priesthood.
One prominent Mormon, Cleon Skousen, former F.B.I. head, faculty
member of BYU, allegedly welcomed Sun Myung Moon("Moonies") home from
prison. He said "that God had sent...Moon to our country with a revelation
and a message The Mormon/Moonie (alleged) coalition involves the Freeman
Institute's (now the National Center for Constitutional Studies) in a new
global anti-communist campaign with CAUSA International, an (alleged) Moonie
front organization." (Pg. 85)
The Mormon church collects 4.3 billion dollars from its members and
has numerous land holdings and businesses. They also own 16 radio stations,
one TV station, and 30 bookstores in Utah. (Pg. 87-90)
From an article originally in the Salt Lake Tribune, "Utah ranks
second in the nation for reported incidents of child abuse per capita...child
abusers are (allegedly) spread across the entire socioeconomic spectrum and
leaders at every church level. There are (allegedly) abusing bishops, stake
presidents, elders, quorum presidents...LDS leaders often (allegedly) testify
in court on behalf of the abuser." (Pg. 94)
Even though Blacks are now allowed in Mormonism, originally they were
not. Brigham Young "declared that one drop of Negro blood was sufficient to
bring a person under the curse and bar him from the priesthood." (Pg. 97-98)
from : http://members.aol.com/SMARTNEWS/Sample-Issue-21.htm
Federal Lawsuit Article
Please use caution while reading. It may be triggering. The lawsuit mentioned
in the article has been filed in federal court and has been neither proven
nor disproven at this point. All crimes and allegations mentioned in the
article are alleged.
Scott v. Mormon Church, A Federal Lawsuit Introduction by Plaintiff's
Attorney, Tim Kosnoff
On March 19, 1998, a lawsuit for damages was filed against the Mormon
Church in the United States District Court for the District of Oregon in
Portland, Oregon. The suit charges that church officials failed to warn or
protect the plaintiff or the plaintiff's parents from an elder and youth
leader the church knew had an extensive history of sodomizing children within
the church. The suit further accuses the Mormon Church of a pattern and
practice of protecting pedophiles and other child sex offenders within its
membership, by failing to report incidents of child sex abuse as required by
law, by discouraging victims from reporting incidents of abuse to the police
and by obstructing vigorous investigation of complaints of child sex abuse by
civil authorities.
The case, Scott v. Corporation of the Presiding Bishop of the Church
of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints and Gregory Lee Foster, 98-366 AA,
(hereinafter Scott v. LDS), accuses the church of knowingly retaining
Franklyn Richard Curtis, known by the church to be a predatory pedophile, to
participate as a leader in LDS Church youth activities, of knowingly failing
to report Curtis' sexual molestations of Mormon children to law enforcement
authorities as
[CTRL] Is America Babylon? Part 1
-Caveat Lector- IS AMERICA BABYLON? By STEWART BEST Part One The vast majority of Christians in the United States have been taught that America is simply not in Bible prophecy. No matter where one may turn, America is not there, either by name or by any form of code name either. Thus say the host of America's Christian clergy to their flock. The second thing they are told is that Babylon is NEVER TAUGHT ANYWHERE IN SCRIPTURE AS A NATION. Babylon is a SYSTEM, and most view it as a RELIGIOUS SYSTEM OF SOME SORT. Prophecy said these views would surface at the time of end. It is the mark of apostasy to DENY YOUR IDENTITY, YOUR SIN, AND THE TIME OF YOUR VISITATION. In fact, that is the essence of all apostasy, THE REJECTION OF SCRIPTURE AS IT APPLIES TO A PERSON, COMMUNITY OR NATION. It is always SOMEONE ELSE, SOMEWHERE ELSE, AND AT SOME UNKNOWN "FUTURE TIME". Never is it NOW, US and OUR NATION. Does it not seem odd to you that America, the GREATEST NATION IN THE WORLD, the greatest evangelical nation; that took the Gospel of Christ to the four corners of the world; THE RICHEST NATION ON THE EARTH, who has given more aid to nations than any other; THE NATION TO HAVE WON TWO MAJOR WORLD WARS and many others; IS NOT EVEN MENTIONED IN THE BIBLE? That God would forget a nation that has been central to the survival of Israel in this age? Not even in a cryptic way? That is like saying God is blind in one eye, and cannot see out of the other! It is accusing God of utter negligence! But it is not God who is NEGLIGENT. It is not God who FORGOT AMERICA in prophecy. It is not God who failed to paint a picture that was obvious to those that wanted to find it. IT IS NOT GOD, BUT THE FALSE PROPHETS OF AMERICA WHO HAVE UTTERLY FAILED THEIR FLOCK. They are DECEIVED, AND THUS ARE DECEIVERS AND HYPOCRITES, FOR THEY LEAD MILLIONS TO ETERNAL RUIN. God told the citizens of BABYLON THE GREAT, AMERICA, exactly what would happen in America, and pointed a finger directly at the CHRISTIAN SHEPHERDS. Why do you suppose that God would do that? Why would He pick a specific group and lay the blame right at their feet? Because it is GOD'S PEOPLE WHO ARE SUPPOSED TO BE ABLE TO IDENTIFY THE ANTICHRIST NATION, THE NATION THAT SPAWNS ANTICHRIST. Remember that Antichrist rises in DECEPTION. "My people (Christians) hath been LOST SHEEP (UNSAVED, UNREGENERATE - HELL BOUND): THEIR SHEPHERDS (THE CHRISTIAN CLERGY, THE EVANGELISTS, THE PREACHERS, THE TEACHERS) HAVE CAUSED THEM TO GO ASTRAY,..(Jeremiah 50:6). The shepherds of God's people in Babylon America embrace a FALSE SALVATION GOSPEL (Matthew 7:21-23; 2 Peter 2:1-3), which leads MILLIONS into eternal ruin. Their salvation Gospel is an UTTERLY FALSE GOSPEL. It is "sugar-coated", and an ALL POSITIVE GOSPEL. That is what Jeremiah means when he says: "they have turned them AWAY on the MOUNTAINS; they have gone from MOUNTAIN TO HILL, they have FORGOTTEN THEIR RESTING PLACE." God fights His wars IN THE VALLEY. True salvation lies IN THE VALLEY. If you refuse the VALLEY EXPERIENCE (THE NEGATIVE ASPECTS OF THE SALVATION DOCTRINE) you will never FIND YOUR RESTING PLACE. Jesus said you MUST PICK UP YOUR CROSS AND FOLLOW HIM. Babylon's gospel of salvation HAS NO CROSS, NO DEATH OF SELF, AND THEREFORE NO TRUE LIFE. It is an utterly false salvation doctrine. IT SWEEPS THE VAST MAJORITY OF AMERICAN CHRISTIANS INTO ETERNAL HELLFIRE. That is why God says they ARE LOST SHEEP. They ARE lost, LOST FOREVER. "We are confounded, because we have heard REPROACH; SHAME HATH COVERED OUR FACES: FOR STRANGERS ARE COME INTO THE SANCTUARIES OF THE LORD'S HOUSE (Jeremiah 51:51)." Indeed, the false Christian clergy ARE STRANGERS and they hold forth a FALSE GOSPEL, that leads to their REPROACH AND LOSS at the judgment seat of Christ. They shall one and all BE ASHAMED, and now face ETERNAL RUIN FOR EVER AND EVER. This is the primary reason why AMERICAN CHRISTIANS reject that America is Babylon. They have been UTTERLY MISLEAD BY FALSE SHEPHERDS. It is part of prophecy. BUT YOU DO NOT HAVE TO BE ONE OF THEM! You can extricate yourself from God's disfavor by SIMPLY ACCEPTING WHAT GOD SAYS AS FACT, and rejecting all the nonsense of these hell bound false leaders. In this first part of our investigation we will focus on the aspect of whether or not God teaches that Babylon the Great is in fact A NATION AMONG THE NATIONS OF THE WORLD. GOD SAYS BABYLON IS A NATION. To claim otherwise is to utterly contradict GOD and all of HIS PROPHETS that spoke of BABYLON. The mark of a FALSE TEACHER is one who DENIES OR CONTRADICTS THE WORD OF GOD, usually in an effort to prove his/her views correct. WE ARE ALL LIARS, AND GOD IS THE ONLY ONE WHO TELLS THE TRUTH. The issue before you, then, is not your opinion, your biases, your intelligence, your standing before God, your education or your denominational belief structure. IT IS WHETHER OR NOT YOU WILL ACCEPT WHAT GOD HAS TO SAY EXACTLY AS HE SAYS IT. The vast majority of Christians
Re: [CTRL] From the author of THE BIGGEST SECRET.
-Caveat Lector- I thought illuminati was started by the jewish jesuit something or other, weishaupt something or other, as a secret society dealing in time frames of centurys to achieve their goals? What the Pharoahs did still make these guys' stuff look like geegaws, and beads for the natives. In comparison to our possibilitys, and BECAUSE the peoples product has been STOLEN to enslave the people, we've become just some mass herd upon which the elite, the so-called illuminated (My Hiney), prey. It Woiks! William Hugh Tunstall wrote: -Caveat Lector- Human sacrifice? Reptilian-human interbreeding? Strange doings at the Great Pyramid involving George Bush? On Fri, 23 Jul 1999, Tenorlove wrote: -Caveat Lector- So our computers are getting more more like TV, complete with summer re-runs. snort --- William Shannon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -Caveat Lector- THE ILLUMINATI MILLENNIUM RITUALS by Arizona Wilder Updated June 9th 1999 VERY IMPORTANT - PLEASE READ Arizona Wilder conducted human sacrifice rituals for the Illuminati elite for decades. These included the British Royal Family, George Bush, Henry Kissinger, and a stream of world famous names revealed in "The Biggest Secret" and the video, "Revelations of a Mother Goddess", available through this website (http://www.davidicke.com). Since she escaped from her mind controlled confinement, she has dedicated herself to exposing what is happening. I received this letter from her dated May 25th 1999 in which she details the key points in the Illuminati ritual programme running up to the Millennium. I should emphasize a few things for those who have not read "The Biggest Secret." The Illuminati, the clique which control the direction of the world, are genetic hybrids, the result of interbreeding between a reptilian extraterrestrial race and humanity many thousands of years ago. The centre of power is not even in this dimension -- it is in the lower fourth dimension, the lower astral as many people call it, the traditional home for the "demons" of folklore and myth. These fourth dimensional reptilian entities work through these hybrid bloodlines because they have a vibrational compatibility with each other. This is why the European royal and aristocratic families have interbred so obsessively, as do the so called Eastern Establishment families of the United States which produce the leaders of America. Every presidential election since and including George Washington in 1789 has been won by the candidate with the most European royal genes. Of the 42 presidents to Bill Clinton, 33 have been genetically related to two people, Alfred the Great, King of England, and Charlemagne, the most famous monarch of what we now call France. It is the same wherever you look in the positions of power.. they are the same tribe! As well as an obsession with interbreeding with each other to preserve their genetic structure, the Illuminati are also obsessed with symbolism and ritual. Interestingly, conventional science has documented that the reptilian part of the human brain (the R complex as they call it) is the source of the following behavior traits: An obsession with ritual, cold blooded behavior, territorialism "this belongs to me", and an obsession with top down hierarchical structures. This sums up the Illuminati mentality perfectly and it goes that if you have more of that R complex, or that it is activated more than normal, you will manifest these traits far more profoundly. But their ritual is not just for ceremonial purposes or gratuitous horror. The rituals are designed to rewire the energy fields and grids of the planet and therefore to fundamentally affect human consciousness. The rituals these bloodlines performed in the ancient world are the same as they do now. See The Biggest Secret for the background. They have a detailed annual calendar of events on which they perform their sacrifice rituals in line with key lunar, solar, and planetary cycles to harness that energy for their sick agenda to take complete control of Planet Earth in the very near future. With that background, here is the full text of the communication from Arizona Wilder. I will add my comments [between brackets] where more background may be needed for those new to these subjects. David Icke David - This information needs to go out to everyone as fast as possible. The Illuminati are conducting a ritual to be held at the Great Pyramid at Giza in Egypt, on August 11, 12, and 13th, 1999. (Specifically the Mothers of Darkness-the top conductors of rituals, will officiate).
[CTRL] Is America Babylon? Part 2A
-Caveat Lector- IS AMERICA BABYLON? By STEWART BEST Part Two-A In our last issue we proved that God refers to Babylon the Great as a NATION, as a national entity, a recognized nation among the nations of the world. Babylon is also a LARGE NATION, with huge land masses, and is surrounded by SEAS. This fact is often refuted by Bible scholars, who declare that Babylon is ONLY A SYSTEM, and NOT a nation or a literal city. In so doing, they fulfill the prophecies concerning the shepherds of Babylon who lead their people totally astray. Rome is usually pointed at as being BABYLON THE CITY, if a literal city is even recognized. Rome, however, DOES NOT come close to being able to fulfill the PARAMETERS OF GOD for the identification of the city, Babylon. It fails in almost ALL ASPECTS. Because it does not meet the requirements of GOD, ROME CANNOT BE THE "GREAT CITY" BABYLON. This is not to say that Rome is not important in prophecy, for it is - it plays a major role and IS PART OF THE BABYLONIAN SYSTEM! The argument goes that Rome is a CITY-STATE, and the Vatican is in reality a NATION, which it is, BUT BEYOND THAT FACT IT UTTERLY FAILS ALL OF THE PARAMETERS FOR BABYLON THE GREAT. Babylon the Great is a LARGE NATION, with MANY CITIES. IT HAS MANY HUGE WARM WATER SEAPORTS, A HUGE MILITARY, A SPACE PROGRAM, ETC. Rome does NOT fulfill any of these. Therefore BELIEVE GOD AND NOT MAN. If you want to understand what is happening in world events, you must first properly identify the players. If you misidentify them, your scenario will never play out, and you will end up confused and bewildered because it did not go down as you expected. This is exactly what is going to happen to the vast majority of prophetic teachers in America today - their scenarios are not playing out, in fact they are being contradicted left and right. All of the emphasis for years has been ON THE BABYLONIAN SYSTEM ONLY, and that it would be run from a REVIVED ROMAN EMPIRE. Scholars told us to look and watch Europe and the EUROPEAN COMMON MARKET, known variously as the EEC OR EC. That area of the world, they all claimed, would produce the Antichrist and the Antichrist system. This claim is made from a misinterpretation of Daniel 7, 2 and 4, which is then carried to Revelation 13, 17 and 18, which we will prove in various articles in the CIS SCANNER. Word from Christian research ministries in the UK tells us the EC is in shambles, and most likely will not come to fruition as planned, and there are many items that have to be worked out. The number of nations involved does not agree with Daniel or Revelation, at this time. Because it does not, many TWIST THE WORD to make it fit. The EC continues to EXPAND, and the the parameters laid down by God through His prophets cannot be met by the EC. For example, the current theme in the prophetic circles is to say that THE EC will go to 13 members, and then 3 will be removed, leaving 10. They claim THAT IS WHAT DANIEL "MEANT" TO SAY. A careful reading of Daniel 7 will show you that A BEAST WITH 10 HORNS EMERGES, AN 11TH ONE COMES UP AMONG THEM, HE REMOVES THREE OF THEM. 10-3=7! 7 + 1 = 8 total! Revelation 13 17 AGREE! "He is of the seven and is the EIGHTH"! BELIEVE GOD. This is PERVERSION OF SCRIPTURE to make something FIT, because they have a BIAS and a PRECONCEIVED THEOLOGY, and thus they have to "force" Scripture to make it match. The fact is, the 10 Kings of Daniel 2 (the ten toes), Daniel Seven's fourth Beast and the 10 Kings of Revelation ARE NOT THE SAME, What is happening is a cross-application that appears to be incorrect. The 10 Kings of Revelation 17, that give their power unto a BEAST THAT HAS ALREADY BEEN PREVIOUSLY DEFINED! What CIS is saying is that THE UN BEAST POWER RISES UP, and divides the world INTO 10 BIO-REGIONS or KINGDOMS, which we believe has already been done under the Club of Rome. NAFTA is part of that plot, for they use TRADE AND ECONOMICS TO SET UP THEIR REGIONS. As it the WTO. BIO-REGION ONE IS CANADA, MEXICO AND AMERICA. NAFTA concerns FREE TRADE (no borders) between Canada, America and Mexico. THE EC IS THE "NAFTA" OF EUROPE. The goal: GLOBAL FREE TRADE with NO NATIONAL BORDERS. Each region has a LEADER/KING. This BEAST POWER, of DANIEL 7, gains its strength from SEVEN PRIMARY WESTERN KINGDOMS. It goes forth, according to Daniel, and DEVOURS THE WHOLE WORLD. Its headquarters are in THE NATION, BABYLON THE GREAT. It is controlled by THE WEST. We are not saying that the final result of the EC will not be 10 kingdoms. The EC is the counterpart of NAFTA for Europe, a BIO-REGION BEING FORMED. We are not saying that those possible 10 kingdoms will not play an important part in prophecy. We are saying simply that Scripture places the SPOTLIGHT ON ANOTHER ENTITY, That entity is a SINGULAR NATION, from her BIRTH ONWARD, not a confederation of nations, and that nation is the greatest SINGULAR NATION to ever grace planet earth! THAT NATION IS BABYLON THE GREAT, THE
[CTRL] Is America Babylon? Part 2B
-Caveat Lector- IS AMERICA BABYLON? By STEWART BEST Part Two-B BABYLON THE GREAT IS THE LEADING NATION OF THE WORLD. There are many verses in both Old and New Testaments that refer to Babylon as the LEADING NATION OF THE WORLD. SHE IS THE "QUEEN OF THE NATIONS". She is said to sit upon a THRONE, TO BE IN ACTUAL FACT, BEHIND THE SCENES, THE RULER OF THE WORLD. "And Babylon, THE GLORY OF KINGDOMS, THE BEAUTY OF THE CHALDEES' EXCELLENCY, shall be as when God overthrew Sodom and Gormorrah (Isaiah 13:19)." Babylon is here referred to as a NATION/KINGDOM, and the GLORY OF ALL KINGDOMS. There is nothing in the world like the nation BABYLON. The word "glory" is "tsebee", which means PROMINENCE, SPLENDOR, HONOR, OR THE GREATEST. In other words, BABYLON THE NATION IS THE GREATEST NATION IN THE ENTIRE WORLD, AND THERE HAS NOT BEEN, NOR EVER WILL BE AGAIN, A NATION AS GREAT AS BABYLON. The phrase "beauty of the Chaldees' excellency" refers to the same concept. The root word is "tipharah" or "tipara" and means one of GLORY OR TO BE FULL OF PRIDE OVER ACCOMPLISHMENTS. It is a VAIN GLORY, and God taunts Babylon with this phrase. Babylon is a nation that is filled with accomplishments, a nation that forges ahead and surmounts its problems with sheer determination and is resolute that it can do what it sets out to do. Indeed, America has that attitude, and America fulfills that parameter with 100% accuracy. NO OTHER NATION ON EARTH CAN BOAST AS AMERICA CAN BOAST!! CIS would ask you several questions. Does Iraq fulfill this parameter? Can Iraq claim that it is THE STRONGEST, GREATEST NATION IN THE WORLD? And what has Iraq accomplished except to destroy itself? What about ROME? Rome is not a large nation, but a "city/state", let alone THE GREATEST IN THE WORLD. What about the EC? First of all the EC is falling apart, but let's say for debate's sake that the EC comes together! Is it ONE NATION, OR IS IT AN ASSEMBLY OF NATIONS? Even as an assembly of nations, CAN IT BOAST THAT IT IS THE MOST POWERFUL NATION IN THE WORLD, WITH THE STRONGEST MILITARY IN THE WORLD? If it can so boast, then why must the U.S. military supply a large part of the manpower, aircraft and equipment for NATO? In point of actual fact, Europe has relied almost totally upon America for all of its defense needs. And what has the EC accomplished? Nothing, save to argue among themselves and be the hotbed of war. No, the EC cannot come close! What about Russia, which some say is Babylon? Iraq? Rome? No way!! Israel? No! No, these nations, or groups of nations (which is a violation of the parameters), do not come even close to fulfilling this one parameter. Except one; AMERICA. America fulfills this parameter to the exact letter. But we do not want America to be Babylon, so therefore IT CANNOT BE SO! Indeed! God will not be mocked! We shall list more to prove this out. "Come down, and sit in the dust, O virgin daughter of Babylon, sit on the ground: THERE IS NO THRONE, O daughter of the Chaldeans: for thou shalt no more be called tender and delicate (Isaiah 47:1)." This mighty Babylon once sat upon the THRONE AS QUEEN OF THE NATIONS. Suddenly she is fallen, and there IS NO LONGER A THRONE FOR HER. She sits in the dust (radioactive), and is gone forever. The point is SHE ONCE HAD A THRONE. SHE WAS ONCE THE MOST POWERFUL NATION IN THE WORLD. The phase "there is no throne" is telling of America's wealth and might, of her power among the nations of the world. In Revelation 18:7, she says: "I SIT A QUEEN". The word "throne" is "kicce", which means literally SEAT OF HONOR, or "seat of a king". As we journey through the prophecies of Jeremiah, Isaiah and Habakkuk, and then compare them to Revelation, we find a consistent portrait of a MIGHTY END TIME SINGULAR NATION THAT IS THE GREATEST IN THE ENTIRE WORLD. "Sit thou silent, and get thee into darkness, O daughter of the Chaldeans: FOR THOU SHALT NO MORE BE CALLED, THE LADY OF KINGDOMS (Isaiah 47:5)." The phrase LADY OF KINGDOMS reaffirms the prophets position that Babylon America is the LEADING NATION in the WHOLE WORLD. She is THE QUEEN, that sits upon THE THRONE OF THE NATIONS, THE RULING NATION OF THE WORLD. She is the LEADER, a nation filled with splendor and glory compared to the other nations. The word "lady" is "g'bereth", which means A LADY OR MISTRESS. Babylon is a pampered mistress, a queen, a virgin, untouched. The eyes of the world are upon Babylon America. Babylon is portrayed as a QUEEN, A LADY, ALWAYS IN THE FEMININE GENDER! "And thou saidst, I WILL BE A LADY FOREVER: so that thou didst not lay these things to thy heart, neither didst remember the latter end of it (Isaiah 47:7)." Again we find a reference to Babylon being A LADY FOREVER, A NATION THAT THINKS IT HAS AN ETERNAL DESTINY, because IT IS THE KINGDOM OF GOD ON EARTH, and GOD IS ETERNAL. It is a delusion, and the destiny of America Babylon is just the opposite of what she thinks it is. That this attitude is displayed in
[CTRL] Is America Babylon? Part 3
-Caveat Lector- IS AMERICA BABYLON? By STEWART BEST Part Three In our first and second articles, CIS proved that God considers Babylon the Great A SINGULAR NATION. She is not a GROUP OF NATIONS BROUGHT TOGETHER, as the EC, but is instead A SINGULAR NATION FROM HER BIRTH ONWARDS. God utterly denies the modern concept that Babylon is simply a SYSTEM that spans the world. It is much more than that. The identity of Babylon the Great as A NATION is of vital importance to us as prophetic students, for it is Babylon that goes forth in the time of the end and conquers the entire world. According to Isaiah 14, it is the KING OF BABYLON that is the ANTICHRIST, whose name is LUCIFER. The implication of Scripture is that this man, LUCIFER, is the king of Babylon the NATION, AND THE CITY. That means, for example, that if America is BABYLON, then she will, through the United Nations, become involved in areas all over the world, as she tries to force her NEW WORLD ORDER ON THE ENTIRE PLANET. We looked at several of the key parameters laid down by the Lord for us to identify this last END TIME GREAT NATION. Jesus said that history would repeat itself, and that as it was in the days of Noah, so would it be again at the close of the age. This is an important parameter for us, for Noah lived 950 years, and lived 350 of those years on THIS SIDE OF THE FLOOD. Noah saw NIMROD'S NATION CALLED BABYLONIA. He also say THE GREAT CITY BABYLON, that was the QUEEN CITY OF BABYLONIA. Near this great city Babylon Nimrod built a TOWER, called the TOWER OF BABEL, which means both "GATE OF GOD", and also "CONFUSION". These parameters are VERY STRICT INDEED, for as we approach the time of the end, A COUNTERPART MODERN NATION WITH THE SAME CHARACTERISTICS OF ANCIENT BABYLON MUST ARISE and form an IDENTICAL PATTERN. In other words, THERE WILL EMERGE IN THE LATTER DAYS, A GREAT MODERN NATION, which will be for it's time, the EQUIVALENT of ancient Babylon under NIMROD, in POWER, RELIGIOUS OUTLOOK, POLITICAL STRUCTURE, ETC. Because ancient Babylonia under Nimrod was a SINGULAR NATION, and within its national borders was a GREAT CITY that reflected the power and prestige of the nation itself, we must then look for ITS COUNTERPART, an OFFSPRING, A DESCENDENT, A "DAUGHTER" OF ANCIENT BABYLON. "Like mother, like daughter" would be the sum of it all. When we apply these parameters, we then must look for a SINGULAR NATION, and within that NATION we must FIND A GREAT CITY, and near that GREAT CITY, we must find A TOWER OF BABEL that represents what ancient Babylon represented: ONE WORLD GOVERNMENT, ONE WORLD RELIGION, AND ONE WORLD ECONOMIC SYSTEM, all of which were true under NIMROD, who DEFIED GOD, and went into UTTER REBELLION against the commands of the LORD. "And God blessed Noah and his sons, and said unto them, BE FRUITFUL, AND MULTIPLY, AND REPLENISH THE EARTH (Genesis 9:1). The command of God to Noah and to his sons was for them to go forth and replenish the entire earth. It was stated again in Genesis 9:7. In other words, GOD WANTED THEM TO SPREAD OUT, and to GO FORTH and spread over the entire earth. One of the sons of Noah was Ham. Ham had a son called CUSH. Cush begat NIMROD. This is only twice removed from Noah, a span of time not far from the flood itself. Nimrod became a MIGHTY MAN, A MIGHTY HUNTER BEFORE THE LORD. The beginning of HIS KINGDOM WAS BABEL (Genesis 10:8-10). The command of God was to SPREAD OUT AND REPLENISH THE EARTH. Nimrod and his ruling elite elected to FORGE A SINGULAR CITY, and to build A TOWER THAT REACHED UNTO HEAVEN: "And the whole earth was of ONE LANGUAGE, and of ONE SPEECH. And it came to pass, as they journeyed from the east, that they found a plain in the land of SHINAR; AND THEY DWELT THERE. And they said one to another, Go to, let us MAKE BRICK, and BURN THEM THOROUGHLY. And they had BRICK FOR STONE, and slime had they for mortar. And they said, Go to, LET US BUILD US A CITY AND A TOWER, WHOSE TOP MAY REACH UNTO HEAVEN; AND LET US MAKE US A NAME, LEST WE BE SCATTERED ABROAD UPON THE FACE OF THE WHOLE EARTH (Genesis 11:1-4)." Now the command of the Lord was TO SCATTER AND REPLENISH. Nimrod, however, said LET US STAY AND MAKE US A NAME, LET US BUILD A GREAT CITY AND TOWER, and BY COLLECTIVE POWER we will NOT BE SCATTERED. There are several important things to note here: 1. Their city was of brick and put together with slime (pitch). The modern day equivalent is CEMENT BLOCK, STONE AND OUR PITCH IS CEMENT MORTAR. They were BUILDERS OF CITIES. Modern Babylon will build CEMENT CITIES. 2. They elected to DEFY GOD and to COLLECTIVELY STATE TO GOD, "WE WILL NOT BE SCATTERED. We shall stay, and WE SHALL BUILD US A TOWER RIGHT INTO HEAVEN ITSELF. WE SHALL ASCEND INTO THE HEAVENS. WE SHALL DO AS WE PLEASE." It was a COLLECTIVE EFFORT ON THE PART OF MANKIND TO DEFY GOD AND HIS COMMANDS. Instead of keeping NATIONS, KINDREDS, TONGUES, latter day man will attempt to MELT THEM TOGETHER, under force of law
[CTRL] Is America Babylon? Part 4
-Caveat Lector- IS AMERICA BABYLON? By STEWART BEST Part Four Understanding the Players At the End IF NOT AMERICA, THEN WHO? Understanding who THE PLAYERS ARE is essential if you are to come to any understanding of THE TRUTH OF BIBLE PROPHECY, and why world events are happening as they are. Remember that Jesus warned us that DECEPTION was the KEY TO THE RISE OF ANTICHRIST. That means HE COMES TO POWER IN A PLACE NOT RECOGNIZED, AT A TIME NOT RECOGNIZED, and IN A MANNER NOT RECOGNIZED even by the vast majority of God's people, let alone the world at large. The prophetic world today is in a DEEP DELUSION, and they are looking in the WRONG AREA for the rise of the antichrist forces and LUCIFER. We begin with an understanding of THE ACTUAL PARAMETERS that God laid down to IDENTIFY THE CHIEF PLAYER OF THE END TIMES - BABYLON THE GREAT, THAT MIGHTY END TIME NATION THAT THINKS ITS LIFE IS ETERNAL, AND WILL NEVER SEE SORROW. WHAT THE PROPHETS SAID ABOUT BABYLON 1. Babylon would be an END TIME GREAT NATION (Rev 17,18; Isa 13:6). 2. Babylon would have a huge seaport city within its borders (Rev 18:17). 3. The Great City Babylon is the home of a world government attempt (Rev 17:18). 4. The Great City Babylon would be the economic nerve center of the world (Rev 18:3). 5. Babylon would be the center of a one world Luciferian religious movement (Jer 51:44). 6. Babylon would be the center for the move to a global economic order (Rev 13:16). BABYLON THE NATION 1. Babylon would be the youngest and greatest of the end time nations (Jer 50:12). 2. Babylon would the QUEEN AMONG THE NATIONS (Isa 47:5,7; Rev 18:7). 3. Babylon would be the most powerful nation in the world (Isa 47, Jer 50, 51, Rev 18). 4. Babylon would be the HAMMER OF THE WHOLE EARTH (Jer 50:23; Rev 18:23). 5. Babylon is called a lady, and has the symbol of the Lady (Isa 47:7-9). 6. Babylon would be the praise of the WHOLE EARTH (Jer 51:41). 7. Babylon is center of world trade (Jer 51:44; Rev 17:18; 18:19). 8. Babylon would grow to be the richest nation in the world (Rev 18:3, 7, 19, 23). 9. All nations that traded with Babylon would grow rich (Rev 18:3). 10. The merchants of Babylon were the GREAT MEN OF THE EARTH (Rev 18:23). 11. Babylon is a huge nation, with lands, cities, and great wealth (implied throughout). 12. Babylon is nation "peeled", or timbered, a land of open fields (Isa 18:2). 13. Babylon is land quartered by mighty rivers (Isa 18:2). 14. Babylon is a land that is measured out, and populated throughout (Isa 18:2). 15. Babylon destroys her own land, with pollution and waste (Isa 14:20, 18:2, 7). 16. Babylon is a land rich in mineral wealth (Jer 51:13). 17. Babylon is a the leading agricultural nation of the world (Jer 50, 51; Rev 18). 18. Babylon is the leading exporting nation in the world (Jer 51:13; Rev 18). 19. Babylon is the leading importing nation of the entire world.(Jer 50, 51; Rev 18). 20. Babylon is a nation filled with warehouses and granaries (Jer 50:26). 21. Babylon is the leading INDUSTRIAL NATION OF THE WORLD (Isa 13, 47, Jer 50, 51; Rev 18). 22. Babylon is noted for her horses (Jer 50:37). 23. Babylon is noted for her cattle, sheep and other livestock (Jer 50:26, 27; Rev 18:13). 24. Babylon is noted for her fine flour and mill operations (Rev 18:13). 25. Babylon is a nation of farmers and harvests huge crops (Jer 50:16, 26, 27). 26. Babylon is a huge exporter of MUSIC (Rev 18:22). 27. Babylon's musicians are known around the world (Rev 18:22) 28. Babylon has a huge aviation program (Isa 14:13-14; Jer 51:53; Hab 1:6-10). 29. Babylon's skies are filled with the whisper of aircraft wings (Isa 18:1; Jer 51:53). 30. Babylon has a huge space industry, has "mounted up to the heavens" (Jer 51:53). 31. Babylon fortifies her skies with a huge military aviation program (Jer 51:53). 32. Babylon is portrayed as a leading in high tech weapons and abilities (Jer 51:53; Hab 1:6-10; implied throughout). 33. Babylon is a nation filled with warm water seaports (Rev 18:17-19). 34. Babylon is a coastal nation and sits upon MANY WATERS (Jer 51:13). 35. Babylon trades with all who have ships in the sea year round (Rev 18:17-18). 36. Babylon is nation filled with a "mingled" people (Jer 50:37). 37. Babylon is a SINGULAR NATION founded upon OUT OF MANY, ONE (Isa 13, 47, Jer 50, 51, Hab 1). 38. Babylon is a REPUBLIC or a DEMOCRACY, it is ruled by many counsels (Isa 47:13). 39. Babylon's governmental system breaks down (Isa 47:13). 40. Babylon is bogged down with deliberations and cannot govern properly (Isa 47:13). 41. Babylon's leaders use astrology, seers and mystics for guidance (Isa 47:13; Rev 18:2). 42. Babylon labored in the occult from her very inception (Isa 47:12). 43. Babylon falls to the occult just before her end by nuclear fire (Rev 18:2) 44. Babylon was born as a CHRISTIAN NATION (Jer 50:12). 45. Babylon turns upon its heritage and destroys it all in the end (Jer 50:11). 46. Babylon's
[CTRL] Is America Babylon? Part 5A
-Caveat Lector- IS AMERICA BABYLON? By STEWART BEST Part Five-A 666, ENGLAND AMERICA, THE LION WITH EAGLE WINGS, AND THE GREAT SEAL OF THE UNITED STATES. The BOOK OF DANIEL is one of the most fascinating books in the Old testament, a book shrouded in mystery and symbolic images. However, deeply buried in DANIEL is the KEY TO UNLOCKING THE TRUTH OF BIBLE PROPHECY, WHAT THE NUMBER 666 IS AND WHAT IT MEANS, AND HOW THAT INFAMOUS NUMBER IS TIED DIRECTLY TO THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND THE RISE OF LUCIFER. "And FOUR GREAT BEASTS CAME UP FROM THE SEA, DIVERSE ONE FROM ANOTHER. The first WAS LIKE A LION, and HAD EAGLE'S WINGS: I beheld till the WINGS THEREOF WERE PLUCKED, and it was lifted up from the earth, and made stand upon the feet as a man, and a man's heart was given to it. (Daniel 7:3-4)." There are several things we have to look at as we examine this beast, for it has two components or parts to it. 1. THE LION 2. THE EAGLE'S WINGS We must also note that the EAGLE WINGS ARE PLUCKED, which means that THEY ARE IN FACT SEPARATE ENTITIES, TIED TOGETHER IN SOME FORM OF RELATIONSHIP. The removal of the eagle wings does not damage the lion itself. Also note the LION IS STANDING UPON ITS FEET. The symbols that Daniel uses are very important, because they either represent NATIONAL SYMBOLS, or they represent HOW THE PEOPLE OF THE EARTH VIEW THESE NATIONS, and THE CHARACTERISTICS OF THE ANIMAL SELECTED MATCH THE NATION'S CHARACTER. In other words, Daniel is showing us WHO THESE NATIONS ARE, BY USING THEIR MOST POPULAR IMAGE, OR SYMBOL. Daniel is writing in "street talk", so that the average BELIEVER would INSTANTLY RECOGNIZE who these powers were if alive during THE LATTER YEARS, for this vision IS A VISION CONCERNING THE LAST GENERATION OF ISRAEL, OF EVENTS THAT ARE TO OCCUR DURING THE THIRD COMMONWEALTH OF ISRAEL. THAT MAKES IT AN "END OF THE AGE" VISION, A LATTER DAY VISION. It is also important to note that ISRAEL (APOSTATE OR NOT) ALWAYS PLAYS THE CENTRAL ROLE IN PROPHECY. That means to you that the ENTITIES PRESENTED IN SCRIPTURE usually HAVE A LOT TO DO WITH ISRAEL in their specific time period. HENCE THE FOUR BEAST POWERS WILL PLAY A MAJOR ROLE IN THE REFORMATION AND CONTROL OF ZIONIST, APOSTATE ISRAEL IN THE 20TH CENTURY. THE LATTER DAY ISRAEL IS ALWAYS PORTRAYED BY THE LORD JESUS CHRIST AS APOSTATE, WITH NO SPIRITUAL FRUIT. IT IS PORTRAYED IN ISAIAH AS A NATION THAT ATTEMPTS TO RISE UP AND RULE THE WORLD, BUT IT FAILS. IT FAILS BECAUSE IT IS NOT MESSIAH LEAD, BUT RATHER IS THE WORK OF THE INTERNATIONAL BANKING CARTELS. GOD ALLOWS IT TO HAPPEN, AND THE TRAP THESE POOR FOLKS SET FOR THE WORLD IS SNAPPED SHUT ON THEM INSTEAD!! ONLY ONE THIRD OF THE JEWS ESCAPE THIS TRAP. THEY ARE THEN BROUGHT INTO MILLENNIAL ISRAEL, WHICH IS FAR DIFFERENT THAN THE ISRAEL OF TODAY. We have already proved that these beasts are LATTER DAY BEAST POWERS. Because Jesus Christ said ALL THINGS would BE FULFILLED WITHIN ONE GENERATION FROM THE TIME APOSTATE ISRAEL'S FOUNDATION BEGAN (the Parable of the Fig Tree makes this very clear), then obviously all of these powers would be around during this final time period. That is to say the 20th century according to the 6000 year Doctrine! The foundation of Israel's existence lays in the taking of Jerusalem by General Allenby on December 9, 1917. CIS believes the evidence suggests that this is where you start your time clock for the LAST GENERATION spoken of by Jesus Christ that would see ALL THINGS FULFILLED, or THE END OF THIS AGE COMPLETED. The evidence is overwhelming that WE ARE THAT LAST GENERATION. Haggai the prophet said that some event would LAY THE FOUNDATION FOR THE LORD'S TEMPLE at the time of the end. This event would NOT BE A FOUNDATION STONE FOR THE TEMPLE ITSELF, BUT A FOUNDATION FOR ISRAEL ITSELF, WHICH LEADS TO A TEMPLE. The date given by Haggai the prophet was the 20th and fourth day of the ninth month of the Jewish religious calendar, but no specific year was given. However, that date IS THE EXACT DATE ALLENBY RETOOK JERUSALEM IN 1917. Was it a coincidence, or was it ORDAINED BY GOD? Did the clock start then, or have we misinterpreted it? TIME WILL TELL US. Psalm 90 tells us that Israel has 80 years plus an unknown time period called "SOON"in this age. The last 10 years of Israel's life would be increasing trouble and strife. It would pass into this final phase in 1987!! World events prove it has been true!! In December of 1987 the PLO uprisings began, paving the way for a PLO-ISRAELI COVENANT on September 13, 1993, with the OSLO ACCORDS formally accepted on a FEAST OF TRUMPETS, 1995, and further, this COVENANT IS EXPANDING TO "MANY", and it COVERS A SEVEN YEAR PLAN, which ends in the year 2000 -2002, with the leaders of the world gathering at the GREAT PYRAMID TO CELEBRATE THEIR "NEW WORLD ORDER"in the year 2000. This means that THE FINAL GENERATION of man upon earth for THIS AGE, would see the rebirth of apostate Israel, and that DANIEL'S FOUR
[CTRL] Is America Babylon? Part 5B
-Caveat Lector- IS AMERICA BABYLON? By STEWART BEST Part Five-B (the last of 5 parts) 666, ENGLAND AMERICA, THE LION WITH EAGLE WINGS, AND THE GREAT SEAL OF THE UNITED STATES. 666 AND THE GREAT SEAL OF THE UNITED STATES How then does John the Revelator tie into this thing? He does so by telling us the NUMBER OF THE BEAST. In point of actual fact, he says "LET HIM WHO HAS UNDERSTANDING"". Wisdom is a HIDDEN THING. In other words, John is telling us THAT THIS IS A SECRET THING, NOT EASILY DETECTED, NOT KNOWN. It requires understanding, and understanding requires WISDOM. It will BE A HIDDEN THING, SOMETHING THAT MUST BE CAREFULLY SEARCHED OUT, OR WE WOULD CALL "A MYSTERY". If it is a MYSTERY, then we have to move over to OCCULTIC KNOWLEDGE TO FIND OUT THE SIGNS AND SYMBOLS OF MYSTERY, AND HOW THEY WORK. Let's see how John actually words it: "HERE IS WISDOM. LET HIM THAT HATH UNDERSTANDING COUNT THE NUMBER OF THE BEAST: "...FOR IT IS THE NUMBER OF (A) MAN; and HIS NUMBER IS SIX HUNDRED THREESCORE AND SIX." (Revelation 13:18) Now notice the ACTUAL NUMBER OF THE BEAST. We also know that the LITTLE HORN IS THE BEAST. So the NUMBER OF THE LITTLE HORN IS 600, 60 AND 6. We have always ADDED IT TOGETHER, AND THUS WE COME TO THE NUMBER 666. But the actual Greek is comprised of THREE NUMBERS: 600, 60 and 6. It is important to keep that in mind. Here is the actual SEQUENCE, and SEQUENCE in the ANCIENT PROPHETIC WRITINGS IS VERY IMPORTANT: 600 60 6 We do not have to add them together to get the MARK OF THE BEAST OR THE NUMBER OF HIS NAME. John does not tell us to ADD THEM TOGETHER. It is not that we cannot add them together, but the point is John does not TELL US TO ADD THEM TOGETHER. We then will take a different tact to solve the riddle. We will use EXACTLY WHAT THE BIBLE TELLS US: 600, 60 and 6. We will start with the REVERSE GREAT SEAL, the SEAL THAT DANIEL GAVE TO US. Embedded at the base of the PYRAMID ARE THE ROMAN NUMERICAL LETTERS: "MDCCLXXVI". http://www.truinsight.com/666%20US13.gif Now you would normally read that as 1776, which is correct. THAT IS THE "OBVIOUS" MEANING OF THOSE LETTERS. But what is the HIDDEN NUMERICAL VALUE OF THOSE LETTERS? And what if we took all of the Roman Numerals together and added them up? The Romans used the following letters for their number system: DCLXVI with D=500, C=100, L=50, X=10, V=5, nd I - 1. The M letter was not used until much later. Now if we take these letters and add them all up, we come to 666. If we take them as Scripture gives the number, we come up with this in descending order: http://www.truinsight.com/666%20US14.gif But it does not stop there. If we take the date given on the official GREAT SEAL OF THE UNITED STATES, WE COME TO SOMETHING QUITE INTERESTING INDEED. What if we were to BREAK DOWN THE CODE BURIED WITHIN THE LETTERS, USING THE OCCULTS OWN PRINCIPLES OF NUMEROLOGY AS ASSOCIATED WITH THE PYRAMID? You will notice in the MASONIC JEWEL that there are in fact THREE SEPARATE TRIANGLES, EACH ONE OFFSET TO THE OTHER. You know also there are THREE SIDES TO EACH TRIANGLE. In the occult, each side has a meaning. In the occult, each plane of creation has a TRINITY ASSOCIATED WITH IT. THERE ARE THREE PLANES TO CREATION: HEAVEN, EARTH AND HELL. This means there ARE NINE SIDES TO THE MASONIC TRIANGLES. It just so happens there are also NINE LETTERS IN "MDCCLXXVI". What would happen if we broke them apart into GROUPS OF THREE? IN OTHER WORDS WE WOULD GO: MDCCLX XVI Using the occult principal of applying values to the THREE CORNERS OF THE PYRAMID, in accordance with occult numerics, with these values placed in their respective positions of importance by their SEQUENCE, and the FIRST ROMAN NUMERAL OF EACH GROUP BEING PLACED AS THE CAPSTONE, we find something that very interesting when it comes to THE BASE NUMBERS OF EACH PYRAMID, and although one could say it was merely COINCIDENCE, it appears to be much more than that. God always forewarns HIS PEOPLE, and these warnings come in many different ways, through many different sources. MORE IMPORTANTLY, IF THE GREAT SEAL OF THE UNITED STATES IS IN FACT THE SEAL OF THE "LITTLE HORN", THEN AMERICA IS THAT LITTLE HORN, AND IT ROSE UP EXACTLY AS PORTRAYED IN THE SCRIPTURE. THAT MEANS THAT BABYLON THE GREAT IS THE ANTICHRIST POWER, AND THAT IS EXACTLY WHAT SCRIPTURE SAYS. The official seal of the United States would then incorporate the information the prophet Daniel claimed he saw. It would be confirmed elsewhere in that seal as well, for God always CONFIRMS EVERYTHING FOR POSITIVE IDENTIFICATION. http://www.truinsight.com/666%20US15.gif Please notice that by adding up the letters at the BASE OF EACH PYRAMID, WE COME TO 600, 60 AND 6. The BASE VALUE OF EACH PYRAMID IS EXACTLY THE NUMBER GIVEN TO US BY JOHN THE REVELATOR, and it is IN THE EXACT SEQUENCE GIVEN. We are also given the EXACT DATE FOR THE BEGINNING OF THE BEAST GOVERNMENT: 1776, or the date of birth for the BEAST POWER. Thus we find all the
Re: [CTRL] Fwd: SNET: Foreign troops here to practice rounding updissenters !
-Caveat Lector- "handle dissenters begging for food and money"...that brainwashed jackass likes that term there...sounds like catchword warning, behave or we will starve you as we did in 1929 and at other times throughout our history...Oh yeah, they have us, but many of the active troops here are totally fed up, and on the brink of rebellion, as well as many of the cops...these last 5 months will be a mass denial by local state and federal governments, well we're sorry, we tried, so we have to bring foreign troops in and everybody has to give up their guns...everybody who resists will be shot out of hand or captured for a camp somewhere...yeah if this is true, and if its not now it will be soon, we are goners, America is dead. If we rise up they will throw biotech on us. I read FEMA directives nearly two years ago and they eerily predict exactly what is going on now...the plan fluctuates some, but we have been set up for a perfect fall...thankfully there are many many many retired officers and such that understand what people like the ding-a-ling in this story are doing, and how badly their brains have been damaged. Stock is being taken, ammo is going off the shelves...act soon. B DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Is America Babylon? Part 1
-Caveat Lector- I don't know if America is Babylon, I do not adhere to desert precepts, but I do know this written below is Babel. Mike Kathy Moxley wrote: -Caveat Lector- IS AMERICA BABYLON? By STEWART BEST Part One The vast majority of Christians in the United States have been taught that America is simply not in Bible prophecy. No matter where one may turn, America is not there, either by name or by any form of code name either. Thus say the host of America's Christian clergy to their flock. The second thing they are told is that Babylon is NEVER TAUGHT ANYWHERE IN SCRIPTURE AS A NATION. Babylon is a SYSTEM, and most view it as a RELIGIOUS SYSTEM OF SOME SORT. Prophecy said these views would surface at the time of end. It is the mark of apostasy to DENY YOUR IDENTITY, YOUR SIN, AND THE TIME OF YOUR VISITATION. In fact, that is the essence of all apostasy, THE REJECTION OF SCRIPTURE AS IT APPLIES TO A PERSON, COMMUNITY OR NATION. It is always SOMEONE ELSE, SOMEWHERE ELSE, AND AT SOME UNKNOWN "FUTURE TIME". Never is it NOW, US and OUR NATION. Does it not seem odd to you that America, the GREATEST NATION IN THE WORLD, the greatest evangelical nation; that took the Gospel of Christ to the four corners of the world; THE RICHEST NATION ON THE EARTH, who has given more aid to nations than any other; THE NATION TO HAVE WON TWO MAJOR WORLD WARS and many others; IS NOT EVEN MENTIONED IN THE BIBLE? That God would forget a nation that has been central to the survival of Israel in this age? Not even in a cryptic way? That is like saying God is blind in one eye, and cannot see out of the other! It is accusing God of utter negligence! But it is not God who is NEGLIGENT. It is not God who FORGOT AMERICA in prophecy. It is not God who failed to paint a picture that was obvious to those that wanted to find it. IT IS NOT GOD, BUT THE FALSE PROPHETS OF AMERICA WHO HAVE UTTERLY FAILED THEIR FLOCK. They are DECEIVED, AND THUS ARE DECEIVERS AND HYPOCRITES, FOR THEY LEAD MILLIONS TO ETERNAL RUIN. God told the citizens of BABYLON THE GREAT, AMERICA, exactly what would happen in America, and pointed a finger directly at the CHRISTIAN SHEPHERDS. Why do you suppose that God would do that? Why would He pick a specific group and lay the blame right at their feet? Because it is GOD'S PEOPLE WHO ARE SUPPOSED TO BE ABLE TO IDENTIFY THE ANTICHRIST NATION, THE NATION THAT SPAWNS ANTICHRIST. Remember that Antichrist rises in DECEPTION. "My people (Christians) hath been LOST SHEEP (UNSAVED, UNREGENERATE - HELL BOUND): THEIR SHEPHERDS (THE CHRISTIAN CLERGY, THE EVANGELISTS, THE PREACHERS, THE TEACHERS) HAVE CAUSED THEM TO GO ASTRAY,..(Jeremiah 50:6). The shepherds of God's people in Babylon America embrace a FALSE SALVATION GOSPEL (Matthew 7:21-23; 2 Peter 2:1-3), which leads MILLIONS into eternal ruin. Their salvation Gospel is an UTTERLY FALSE GOSPEL. It is "sugar-coated", and an ALL POSITIVE GOSPEL. That is what Jeremiah means when he says: "they have turned them AWAY on the MOUNTAINS; they have gone from MOUNTAIN TO HILL, they have FORGOTTEN THEIR RESTING PLACE." God fights His wars IN THE VALLEY. True salvation lies IN THE VALLEY. If you refuse the VALLEY EXPERIENCE (THE NEGATIVE ASPECTS OF THE SALVATION DOCTRINE) you will never FIND YOUR RESTING PLACE. Jesus said you MUST PICK UP YOUR CROSS AND FOLLOW HIM. Babylon's gospel of salvation HAS NO CROSS, NO DEATH OF SELF, AND THEREFORE NO TRUE LIFE. It is an utterly false salvation doctrine. IT SWEEPS THE VAST MAJORITY OF AMERICAN CHRISTIANS INTO ETERNAL HELLFIRE. That is why God says they ARE LOST SHEEP. They ARE lost, LOST FOREVER. "We are confounded, because we have heard REPROACH; SHAME HATH COVERED OUR FACES: FOR STRANGERS ARE COME INTO THE SANCTUARIES OF THE LORD'S HOUSE (Jeremiah 51:51)." Indeed, the false Christian clergy ARE STRANGERS and they hold forth a FALSE GOSPEL, that leads to their REPROACH AND LOSS at the judgment seat of Christ. They shall one and all BE ASHAMED, and now face ETERNAL RUIN FOR EVER AND EVER. This is the primary reason why AMERICAN CHRISTIANS reject that America is Babylon. They have been UTTERLY MISLEAD BY FALSE SHEPHERDS. It is part of prophecy. BUT YOU DO NOT HAVE TO BE ONE OF THEM! You can extricate yourself from God's disfavor by SIMPLY ACCEPTING WHAT GOD SAYS AS FACT, and rejecting all the nonsense of these hell bound false leaders. In this first part of our investigation we will focus on the aspect of whether or not God teaches that Babylon the Great is in fact A NATION AMONG THE NATIONS OF THE WORLD. GOD SAYS BABYLON IS A NATION. To claim otherwise is to utterly contradict GOD and all of HIS PROPHETS that spoke of BABYLON. The mark of a FALSE TEACHER is one who DENIES OR CONTRADICTS THE WORD OF GOD, usually in an effort to prove his/her views correct. WE ARE ALL LIARS, AND GOD IS THE ONLY ONE WHO TELLS THE TRUTH. The issue before you, then, is not your
[CTRL] FW: [apfn] People, please check this out!!!
-Caveat Lector- Bard -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, July 23, 1999 6:13 PM To: undisclosed-recipients:; Subject: [apfn] People, please check this out!!! From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] This is scary. See where technology is taking us now. Go to http://sites.netscape.net/zumaltsp/camera1.html and get a picture of yourself right through your monitor. This is Big Brother at its best or worst. Imagine what they have already seen. Microsoft has developed this technology that dot dithers your screen to act as a camera receptacle. As you will see, the beta web site captures your image just as if you had the computer connected to a video cam. This technology may have been around for months and installed on web sites without our knowledge or permission. If so than those web sites are capturing images of you unawares as you view your monitor. --- ONElist Sponsor Congratulations to RON MARTINO This week's FRIENDS FAMILY WINNER! To join ONElist's Friends Family program, go to http://www.onelist.com _ "I tolerate with the utmost latitude the right of others to differ from me in opinion" Thomas Jefferson UNTIL FURTHER NOTICE APFN ONELIST IS NOW MODERATED ** HAVE YOU CHECKED APFN MESSAGE BOARD TODAY? http://www.InsideTheWeb.com/mbs.cgi/mb77532 FIVE WAYS TO CONTACT APFN: http://wwp.mirabilis.com/10811517#contactingme APFN eFAX: (520) 752-7882 APFN CONTENTS PAGE: http://esotericworldnews.com/apfncont.htm === Subscribe to APFN ONELIST: http://www.onelist.com/subscribe.cgi/apfn America national motto: "IN GOD WE TRUST" U.S. Militiary Oath ends: "So help me God." God Plus One is Alway A majority! .If God be for us, who can be against us? Romans 8:31b IT IS THE LAW: "Silence can only be equated with fraud when there is a legal or moral duty to speak, or when an inquiry left unanswered would be intentionally misleading... We cannot condone this shocking conduct... If this is the case we hope our message is clear. This sort of decption will not be torerated and if this is routine it should be corrected immediately" U.S. v. Twell 550 F2d 297, 299-300 "In a age of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." George Orwell DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] FW: The Filibuster Is * On *
-Caveat Lector- Bard Federal Government defined: a benefit/subsidy protection racket! -Original Message- From: Gun Owners of America [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, July 23, 1999 3:13 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: The Filibuster Is * On * Senator Smith Throws Down the Gauntlet! -- Stands up to Trent Lott by forcing filibuster on anti-gun crime bill Gun Owners of America E-Mail/FAX Alert 8001 Forbes Place, Suite 102, Springfield, VA 22151 Phone: 703-321-8585 / FAX: 703-321-8408 http://www.gunowners.org (Friday, July 23, 1999) -- Majority Leader Trent Lott (R-MS) has set the Senate wheels in motion for a series of votes to stop Senator Bob Smith's filibuster on the juvenile crime legislation. The first vote has been set for Monday, July 26. So far, Senator Smith (I-NH) has prevented any progress on the anti-gun crime bill by promising to use the ancient art of "filibuster." Yesterday, that promise became reality when Smith objected to a motion by Sen. Lott to move the bill along. This is truly a David v. Goliath stand-off. The Senate leadership, led by the Majority Leader, is trying to roll Senator Smith and bring his delaying tactics to an end. Of course, Senator Lott must first clear at least six parliamentary "hurdles" that have been erected by Senator Smith. The key vote will occur on Wednesday or Thursday when the Senate will determine whether the Gore/Lautenberg gun control crime bill (S. 254) will move forward. That vote will be on an effort to shut down debate on Sen. Smith's filibuster-- known in Washington as "invoking cloture" on the filibuster-- and will decide whether Sen. Lott can substitute the virulently anti-gun crime bill (S. 254) in lieu of the crime bill that was passed by the House. Eventually, Senator Lott wants to send the crime legislation to a House-Senate conference committee to iron out the differences between the two bills. But that can only come after he's cleared the Smith "hurdles"-- a process that should take several days. Lott can clear each one of these hurdles with a 60-vote majority in the Senate. If that happens, President Clinton will be one step closer to signing a crime bill that is replete with gun bans and gun owner registration. But if our side gets 41 votes at any point along the way, then Senate rules will allow Smith to continue filibustering the bill-- which could entail his standing on the Senate floor and reading long passages from a library of pro-gun literature. You may want to tape this from C-Span and label it "Second Amendment books on tape by Senator Smith." Smith is willing to do that. He is committed to doing whatever it takes to defend the 2nd Amendment. But he needs 40 other Senators to stand with him! Again, Monday's vote will begin a whole series of votes on this issue. Each one is slightly different, and GOA will do its best to keep you informed as to what is coming down the pike. Until then, please start asking your Senators to support the Smith filibuster. Senator Smith is without question THE defender of 2nd Amendment rights in the Senate. Tell your Senator that you would like him or her to follow Smith's lead on the upcoming series of votes. CONTACT INFORMATION: * Toll-free at 1-888-449-3511. [Please be patient when calling this number; sometimes it rings for quite a while. But they will answer!] * The regular Capitol Switchboard number is 202-224-3121. * Fax and e-mail contact info is available at http://www.gunowners.org/s106th.htm on the GOA webpage. P.S. There has been quite a bit of confusion in the media as to what is actually transpiring on Monday. Some in the media are reporting that Monday's vote is about the appointment of Senate conferees. This is incorrect. Technically speaking, the purpose for Monday's vote in the Senate is to bring up the House crime bill (H.R. 1501) for debate. As stated above, Lott eventually wants to appoint conferees, but that will only happen if he can overcome every Smith filibuster. ** Cheaper Than Dirt donates a percentage of your total order to GOA if you use http://www.cheaperthandirt.com/goa.htm to enter their online store. ** Did someone else forward this to you? To be certain of getting up to date information, please consider subscribing to the GOA E-Mail Alert Network directly. There is no cost or obligation, and the volume of mail is quite low. To subscribe, simply send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and include the state in which you live, in either the subject or the body. To unsubscribe, reply to any alert and ask to be removed. DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout
[CTRL] Pope Joan
-Caveat Lector- from soc.genealogy.medieval Subject: OT: Pope Joan (was re: pedigrees popes) From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Nathaniel Taylor) Date: Tue, 13 July 1999 12:42 PM EDT Message-id: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In article [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Speaking of Popes, is it true that Pope John XIII changed his title to John XIV in the 12th century, when he discovered that "Pope Joan" had reigned as Pope John XIII? This, of course, would mean that Pope John XIV officially recognised Joan's existence, which was otherwise wiped out of church records. The Vatican party-line on Pope Joan is here. http://www.knight.org/advent/cathen/08407a.htm. Of course she was essentially a protestant plot! The serious argument is that there is no room for such a pope in the timeline and no contemporary evidence. Likewise, if you check John XIII and John XIV here: http://www.knight.org/advent/az/j.htm there is no mention of name changes, nor even a whiff of perfume! Rather than the turn-of-the-century _Catholic Encyclopedia_ (the version that's on line at the above URL), I would recommend more recent literature on the Pope Joan legend, particularly the fine book: Rosemary Anne Pardoe and Darroll Pardoe, _The female pope: the mystery of Pope Joan: the first complete documentation of the facts behind the legend_ (Wellingborough, Northants., 1988). This is not an exposé or a conspiracy theory book; it's a sound cultural history of the growth of a legend. The legend of Pope Joan, a female cleric who passed for male during a long career which included over two years as pope (until she gave birth in public during a procession) apparently originated in the early fourteenth century. It was hugely popular in the late Middle Ages and Renaissance, widely spread among Protestant anti-Catholics (who cited her as an example of the moral corruption and invalidity of the papacy), but as a pre-reformation legend it was, for a while, even current in Catholic circles; I can't remember what they say about the John renumbering. As far as I remember, the legend was said to have centered around a much earlier period in Papal history--the ninth or tenth century, but there are absolutely no grounds for it. The Pardoes' book has suggestions of the seeds of the legend, including a fascinating discussion of a late antique memorial stone whose abbreviated epigraph was misinterpreted as commemorating the spot there the pope was said to have given birth in the street. She's also often included on FAQs and indices for Urban Legends (such as the alt.folklore.urban FAQ newsgroup). I'm sure a Pope Joan web search would provide a good period of fun for those interested. Nat Taylor DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] KING-KILL/33°
-Caveat Lector- And then of course you have the place where the world of the dead touches the world of the living, and it is there that The Great Hunt Always Begins. DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Israel's Barry Chamish Re: UFO news from Israel (fwd)
-Caveat Lector- -- Forwarded message -- Date: Sat, 24 Jul 1999 12:24:03 +0300 (IDT) From: barry chamish [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: MICHAEL SPITZER [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Israel OVERLOOKED ISRAELI PHENOMENA by Barry Chamish Here's a good reason why reporting on UFOs, though a non-profit cause in the short run, has its longterm rewards. Every now and then someone reads the reports and offers unique opportunities that enrich a person's existence. Such was the case this week when a documentary crew preparing a film about the history of giants for the Discovery Channel arrived in Israel to tape a segment based on my research connected to the subject. I had the pleasure, and it really was fun, of accompanying producer Alexander Brown and director Charles Wilkinson up and down the country for interviews, during the course of which, significant new information emerged which has been overlooked until now. Two outstanding examples are: Genetic Alterations In Yatzitz - Probably the most convincing proof that UFO-related giants visited Israel for two years beginninng in 1993, was the incident at Yatzitz. In January 1995, Herzl Consantini and Danny Ezra witnessed a nine foot robotic giant which left 8.5 kilometers of impossibly deep boot tracks in its wake. I thought I had previously covered the encounter from every angle, but I had, in fact, missed a profoundly important detail which Herzl revealed in his interview this week. Fruit trees which grew beside the giant tracks produced weird genetically altered products the summer following the incident. Herzl rummaged through his records and found newspapers of the time to back up his claim: Charles Wilkinson filmed the relevant pages. They showed Herzl holding a four-headed nectarine, as an example of the bizarre alterations to trees affected by the passing of the giant. The Haunting Of Bet Zarzir - In April 1998, Golan Marzuk discovered and photographed Israel's first thoroughly investigated crop formation. The pictogram was formed in a wheat field beside his village and it was a symetrical 27 metres by 27 metres unmbrella-shaped image. Since the incident, the village, whose population is Druze, a rather secretive offshoot of Islam, has reported continuing aftershocks. In each case up until his interview this week on July 20/99, animals became very noisy and agitated before a misty image appeared before different villagers. Marzuk described the images as, "human in appearance but either small, half the size of a normal man, or large, one and a half to two times larger. They were seen just outside the homes of three of my relatives and were hazy, like they were formed of cigarette smoke. People in the village are very upset by all this but it is not in our nature to reveal such things to outsiders. I've become very interested in UFOs since I photographed our crop formation and want other people to have the knowledge as it emerges from our village." Please visit http://members.tripod.com/~ufoisrael = Kaddish, Kaddish, Kaddish, YHVH, TZEVAOT FROM THE DESK OF:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *Mike Spitzer* [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] The Best Way To Destroy Enemies Is To Change Them To Friends Shalom, A Salaam Aleikum, and to all, A Good Day. = DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] OT [Fwd: The Filibuster Is * On *] (fwd)
-Caveat Lector- Senator Smith Throws Down the Gauntlet! -- Stands up to Trent Lott by forcing filibuster on anti-gun crime bill Gun Owners of America E-Mail/FAX Alert 8001 Forbes Place, Suite 102, Springfield, VA 22151 Phone: 703-321-8585 / FAX: 703-321-8408 http://www.gunowners.org (Friday, July 23, 1999) -- Majority Leader Trent Lott (R-MS) has set the Senate wheels in motion for a series of votes to stop Senator Bob Smith's filibuster on the juvenile crime legislation. The first vote has been set for Monday, July 26. So far, Senator Smith (I-NH) has prevented any progress on the anti-gun crime bill by promising to use the ancient art of "filibuster." Yesterday, that promise became reality when Smith objected to a motion by Sen. Lott to move the bill along. This is truly a David v. Goliath stand-off. The Senate leadership, led by the Majority Leader, is trying to roll Senator Smith and bring his delaying tactics to an end. Of course, Senator Lott must first clear at least six parliamentary "hurdles" that have been erected by Senator Smith. The key vote will occur on Wednesday or Thursday when the Senate will determine whether the Gore/Lautenberg gun control crime bill (S. 254) will move forward. That vote will be on an effort to shut down debate on Sen. Smith's filibuster-- known in Washington as "invoking cloture" on the filibuster-- and will decide whether Sen. Lott can substitute the virulently anti-gun crime bill (S. 254) in lieu of the crime bill that was passed by the House. Eventually, Senator Lott wants to send the crime legislation to a House-Senate conference committee to iron out the differences between the two bills. But that can only come after he's cleared the Smith "hurdles"-- a process that should take several days. Lott can clear each one of these hurdles with a 60-vote majority in the Senate. If that happens, President Clinton will be one step closer to signing a crime bill that is replete with gun bans and gun owner registration. But if our side gets 41 votes at any point along the way, then Senate rules will allow Smith to continue filibustering the bill-- which could entail his standing on the Senate floor and reading long passages from a library of pro-gun literature. You may want to tape this from C-Span and label it "Second Amendment books on tape by Senator Smith." Smith is willing to do that. He is committed to doing whatever it takes to defend the 2nd Amendment. But he needs 40 other Senators to stand with him! Again, Monday's vote will begin a whole series of votes on this issue. Each one is slightly different, and GOA will do its best to keep you informed as to what is coming down the pike. Until then, please start asking your Senators to support the Smith filibuster. Senator Smith is without question THE defender of 2nd Amendment rights in the Senate. Tell your Senator that you would like him or her to follow Smith's lead on the upcoming series of votes. CONTACT INFORMATION: * Toll-free at 1-888-449-3511. [Please be patient when calling this number; sometimes it rings for quite a while. But they will answer!] * The regular Capitol Switchboard number is 202-224-3121. * Fax and e-mail contact info is available at http://www.gunowners.org/s106th.htm on the GOA webpage. P.S. There has been quite a bit of confusion in the media as to what is actually transpiring on Monday. Some in the media are reporting that Monday's vote is about the appointment of Senate conferees. This is incorrect. Technically speaking, the purpose for Monday's vote in the Senate is to bring up the House crime bill (H.R. 1501) for debate. As stated above, Lott eventually wants to appoint conferees, but that will only happen if he can overcome every Smith filibuster. = Kaddish, Kaddish, Kaddish, YHVH, TZEVAOT FROM THE DESK OF:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *Mike Spitzer* [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] The Best Way To Destroy Enemies Is To Change Them To Friends Shalom, A Salaam Aleikum, and to all, A Good Day. = DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives
[CTRL] Kosovo is Mafia's 'heroin gateway to West' (fwd)
-Caveat Lector- July 24 1999 BALKANS London Times Kosovo is Mafia's 'heroin gateway to West' FROM EVE-ANN PRENTICE IN BELGRADE THE Kosovo conflict has turned the province into a magnet for many of the world's notorious drug barons, according to a director of the International Narcotics Enforcement Officers' Association. More than 40 per cent of the heroin reaching Western Europe comes through the Serb province because of a lack of border controls, says Marko Nicovic. "Kosovo is now the Colombia of Europe. There is no border between Kosovo and Albania or between Macedonia and Kosovo," he said yesterday. "For the Turkish, Russian, Italian and Albanian mafias," Kosovo really had become a paradise. Mr Nicovic is a former Belgrade police chief and drug squad detective who worked for years in co-operation with police in Britain and the US. He says he began to notice Albanian gangs dealing in drugs in the mid-1980s. Heroin trafficking increased, he says, after Yugoslavia lost its membership of Interpol with the imposition of international sanctions in 1993. "Our police had great expertise and experience with this," Mr Nicovic says. The Kosovo conflict has left the province without police or customs controls and "Kfor soldiers are not criminal investigators". Mr Nicovic said drugs were being brought into Kosovo from Asia and Turkey, then taken on to Western Europe by road and sea by drug barons from Italy and Albania. Mr Nicovic says many Kosovo Albanians have bought harbourside sites in Albania in the past few years. Much of the heroin shipped from there to small ports in southeastern Italy are run by Italian Mafiosi. Other favourite routes are by road, north through Serbia to Hungary, the Czech Republic and Germany, he says. The former Yugoslav drugs squad chief says the Albanian drugs and arms mafia is particularly hard to penetrate. Albanians have strong family ties and it is hard to find informers. "They have a brotherhood which gives them a far greater ability to form a mafia than even the Sicilians." Mr Nicovic says hundreds of pounds of heroin are being stored in the village of Veliki Trnovac, near Gnjiliane, in the southeast of Kosovo, and Djakovica in the west. "The criminals have found the one country between Asia and Europe which is not a member of Interpol," he says. "This is a cancer area for Europe as Western Europe will very soon discover. As each day passes the Albanian mafia becomes richer and more powerful." Copyright 1999 Times Newspapers Ltd. = Kaddish, Kaddish, Kaddish, YHVH, TZEVAOT FROM THE DESK OF:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *Mike Spitzer* [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] The Best Way To Destroy Enemies Is To Change Them To Friends Shalom, A Salaam Aleikum, and to all, A Good Day. = DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Putting China First - Still (fwd)
-Caveat Lector- E D I T O R I A L S Putting China First - Still Investors Business Daily Date: 7/26/99 By now, President Clinton has to be painfully aware that China's leaders took him for a fool. While he feted them in the White House, their moles mined our defense labs. Now China is threatening Taiwan with a U.S.-designed bomb. Only Clinton doesn't act like someone wronged, which raises even more suspicion that the nation's commander in chief is somehow personally indebted to a totalitarian - and clearly anti-American - regime. He can no longer pretend that his concessions are in ''our national interest.'' Even after its plot to penetrate our military - not to mention our elections - was exposed, China firebombed our embassy in Beijing and held our ambassador hostage. Now it's turning away our ships and planes in Hong Kong. And yet Clinton keeps heaping benefits on the country. Extending China's normal trading status with the U.S. last month apparently wasn't good enough. Clinton's trade rep is working to get China into the World Trade Organization. Clinton is also trying to loosen controls on sending supercomputers to countries that have resold them to China in the past. He's trying to gull the Senate into signing a treaty to stop the U.S. from ever building and testing another nuclear weapon. China doesn't care about a global test ban, now that it has our nuclear secrets. China is getting another wish: Clinton still won't agree to deploy a missile defense system. Clinton refuses to kill the lab-to-lab exchanges he started with Beijing's nuclear physicists. He has even dispatched his Energy secretary to lobby Congress for more funding. Congress wants the names of Chinese military front companies doing business in the U.S. Clinton won't give them up, even though he's breaking a law he signed Oct. 17. Now he's punishing Taiwan for asserting its independence from mainland China. Pentagon advisers to Taiwan have been grounded. Military aid has been cut off. Clinton has placed friendly calls to China's dictator, but none to Taiwan's freely elected leader. Beijing is hinting at invasion, yet we're sending no additional carriers there even though U.S. law binds us to defend Taiwan. It's also instructive to note what Clinton has not done. After the Cox Report on Chinese espionage, Clinton never went on national TV to allay Americans' fears. Yet they learned that a communist rival targeting U.S. cities with long-range missiles got secrets to every weapon in our nuclear arsenal. Instead, Clinton wondered what all the fuss was about. ''I don't recall President Eisenhower ever considering bombing Russia because of espionage,'' he told NBC News. Of course no one ever suggested bombing China. That's a false argument. So's the comparison to Ike. Ike's re-election campaign didn't collect money from the Red Army, give its scientists access to U.S. arms labs, or install suspected Kremlin agents in government trade posts where they had access to classified information. Candidate Bill Clinton talked tough on China ee graphic). In seven years, he has gone from calling the ruling party ''tyrants'' to giving its top dictator a 21-gun salute at the White House. All in the name of engagement. But engaging China hasn't changed. Beijing is still cracking heads of pro-democracy demonstrators. Its slave labor camps now total 99. It hasn't stopped arming U.S. enemies like Iran and Syria. And now it's bullying a democratic U.S. ally. Reality is, China views us as its archenemy, and now we have proof it has been plotting against us. It doesn't make any sense that Clinton would still be so soft on China. And as we near a flash point in the Taiwan Strait, Americans must ask themselves if their president isn't himself a threat to national security. (C) Copyright 1999 Investors Business Daily, Inc. Metadata: E/IBDE/SN1 E/EDIT = Kaddish, Kaddish, Kaddish, YHVH, TZEVAOT FROM THE DESK OF:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *Mike Spitzer* [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] The Best Way To Destroy Enemies Is To Change Them To Friends Shalom, A Salaam Aleikum, and to all, A Good Day. = DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil
[CTRL] U.S.Has Secretly Expanded Military Ties With Taiwan (fwd)
-Caveat Lector- From: http://www.latimes.com/HOME/NEWS/FRONT/leadstory.html Los Angeles Times front Page Lead Story U.S. Has Secretly Expanded Military Ties With Taiwan Asia: Contact includes an exchange of ideas on armed forces strategy and Taipei's response in the event of invasion. Pentagon's moves may further upset U.S.-China relations. By JIM MANN, Times Staff Writer WASHINGTON--Over the past three years, the Clinton administration has quietly forged an extensive military relationship with Taiwan, authorizing the Pentagon to conduct the kind of strategic dialogue with Taiwan's armed forces that had not been permitted by any previous administration since 1979, according to U.S. and Taiwanese sources. The secret expansion of military ties began after the Taiwan Strait crisis of 1996, in which China fired missiles into the waters near Taiwan and the United States countered by sending two aircraft carriers to help protect the island. A Pentagon review later concluded that the United States needed to broaden its contacts with Taiwan's armed forces. The broadened ties with Taiwan are particularly sensitive because they could further roil the unsettled relations between the United States and China. The government in Beijing considers Taiwan to be a province of China. Two decades ago, when the United States established diplomatic ties with China and withdrew recognition from Taiwan, the Pentagon restricted military contacts with Taiwan essentially to two areas: arms sales and intelligence-sharing. But after the 1996 crisis, the United States opened the way for a much more extensive relationship with Taiwan, encompassing visits by Taiwanese military leaders to Washington and a sharing of ideas between uniformed officers about military strategy in East Asia and about Taiwan's response to an invasion. "The discussions have turned from procurement to the policy level," one Taiwanese source said. "It's things like: 'What are your aims? What do you think? What do you see happening in the next five years?' We never had that sort of conversation with the Pentagon before. . . . We share with the United States the action plan [for what Taiwan would do] if we were attacked." Recently, Sha Zukang, a senior Chinese Foreign Ministry official, warned Washington in a published interview that "conducting any form of military cooperation with Taiwan would seriously interfere in China's internal affairs, seriously violate China's sovereignty and territorial integrity and seriously contravene" communiques between the United States and China. At the moment, the United States does not have any military relationship with China comparable to the one with Taiwan. On Wednesday, President Clinton said he was temporarily postponing a planned trip to Taiwan by a group of U.S. military experts who were supposed to assess Taiwan's air-defense needs. But the Pentagon's secretly expanded military ties with Taiwan are not affected by Clinton's action--and address much more than Taiwan's possible needs for new hardware. Taiwanese President Lee Teng-hui appeared to refer fleetingly to Taiwan's deepening military relationship with the United States in a little-noticed portion of a radio interview earlier this month in which he ignited an international controversy by referring to his government's relationship to China as that of one state to another. Beijing has threatened to respond with military force if Taipei ever formally declares independence. "In the foreseeable future, the security cooperation between Taiwan and the United States will remain an important factor in maintaining stability in the Taiwan Strait," Lee said in the interview with a German radio station. He didn't explain what he meant by "security cooperation." China is said to have become increasingly concerned about the growing contact between the Pentagon and Taiwan's military. It objected strongly to the visit to Washington last October by Tang Fei, the chief of general staff of Taiwan's armed forces, who met with Defense Secretary William S. Cohen and Gen. Henry H. Shelton, chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff. One of China's biggest worries in recent years has been the possibility of a new quasi-alliance between the U.S. and Taiwan. China already has complained about the recently strengthened military ties between the United States and Japan, and the expanded U.S. links with Taiwan could further complicate China's military position in East Asia. Contacts Downplayed but Not Denied When the United States began exploring during the past year the possibility of establishing a missile-defense system to protect Taiwan, Chinese officials told the administration that they were afraid that doing so would require U.S. and Taiwanese military personnel to exchange information and cooperate with each other in new ways. Asked recently about the expanded military ties with Taiwan, a senior Clinton administration official sought to downplay their significance,
Re: [CTRL] Y2K Conspiracy Goes Mainstream by Declan McCullagh
-Caveat Lector- Scary? SCARY??!!! Whaddya mean Scary? For two years a whole bunch of people have been hollering at the top of their lungs HEY THEY ARE COMING FOR THE GUNS, AND THEY HAVE BUILT PRISON CAMPS ALL OVER THE PLACE, AND FEMA PREDICTS MARTIAL LAW AT Y2K! And the sheople continued to stay tuned to their "Programming". Now why do you suppose its called Programming, Hm? This is NOT conspiracy theory, it is REAL History, but when that patriot, was it Thomas Paine, spoke and said I have no way to judge the future but by the past, he wasn't whistlin' dixie, for Goddess' sake. He was telling it like it is, and of course this information is all very well known now, and with the advent of the most coercive media EVER, Television, came the true potential for lock down and destruction of our society. Nobody can judge the future realistically because the past has been hidden with flash and glamor. What a bunch of idiot simians we have become, ever entranced by that oh so basic magic of moving pictures. BG Nicky Molloy wrote: -Caveat Lector- -Original Message- From: Nelwyn Thurman [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Sunday, 25 July 1999 10:53 Subject: Re: [Y2K] Y2K Conspiracy Goes Mainstream Have you any idea how to go about getting that attorney's handout? I'd dearly love to see it. He's done work I've been too busy to do. Nelwyn - Original Message - From: Mike Marshall [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; NAYCAG [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, July 24, 1999 3:01 PM Subject: [Y2K] Y2K Conspiracy Goes Mainstream I know Declan McCullagh is somewhat of a scaremonger, but it there is any truth to this article, it is quite scary. Michael Marshall Visit: http://www.northalabama-y2k.com When the going gets toughRUN! Y2K Conspiracy Goes Mainstream by Declan McCullagh 3:00 a.m. 15.Jul.99.PDT WASHINGTON -- For many Y2K fanatics, the scariest threat on 1 January 2000 is not technology at all. It's the far more sinister specter of a power-mad president imposing martial law. Dark visions of US Marines stomping through backyards on New Year's Eve 1999 are a staple of innumerable Y2K discussion groups. A typical post: "There is nothing secret about the fact [that the] US, UK and Canada are preparing for martial law." These sorts of ruminations are no longer the sole domain of fringe conspiracy buffs. They got a boost Wednesday from a conference hosted by the staid US Reserve Officers Association, an eminently respectable organization that Congress chartered in 1920. During the full-day meeting, titled "National Conference on Presidential Powers and Executive Orders," and organized by an anti-UN advocacy group, legislators and lawyers warned that President Clinton could see Y2K disruptions as a convenient excuse to call out the troops and declare martial law. "President Clinton might take that opportunity?" asked an audience member from Concerned Women for America. "That is my fear," replied Representative Jack Metcalf (R-Washington). "It seems to me that the only emergency that we might see coming is the Y2K. [With] a power-hungry president, who knows what he might do." Conference organizer Cliff Kincaid agreed: "It appears we don't have a President anymore. We have a king." Kincaid is head of America's Survival, which is devoted to combating global organizations in general and the UN in particular. Attendees seemed suitably scared. Carolyn Betts, who was reading The Day After Roswell, said she suspected a clandestine agency had bombarded her office in Washington with high-frequency audio. "Both the people and the dogs had diarrhea," said Betts, and the masonry started to crumble. For real Y2K conspiracy fans, the highlight of the day was a presentation by William Olsen, a lawyer at a McLean, Virginia, law firm. "We're headed on the road to tyranny," he said. Olsen declined to predict whether martial law -- or similar restrictions, such as military courts, seizure of private property, and suspension of normal due-process rights -- would definitely happen due to Y2K. But he did distribute to the 30-person audience a 27-page legal document he had co-authored. It shows, in exhaustive detail, that whoever occupies the Oval Office has near limitless power to declare emergencies and call out the troops, as President Wilson did in 1914 when he ordered the Army into Colorado with orders to disarm all residents and even police. Could it happen again? Quite possibly, Olsen said. "One wonders what the reaction will be next time." There have been earlier signs that some Washingtonians are considering an aggressive response to Y2K. Senator Robert Bennett, the Utah
Re: [CTRL] FW: [apfn] People, please check this out!!!
-Caveat Lector- Cute joke! It actually did frighten as the picture started to load and I was thinking it was me. - Original Message - From: Bard [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, July 24, 1999 7:29 PM Subject: [CTRL] FW: [apfn] People, please check this out!!! : -Caveat Lector- : : Bard : : : -Original Message- : From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] : Sent: Friday, July 23, 1999 6:13 PM : To: undisclosed-recipients:; : Subject: [apfn] People, please check this out!!! : : : From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] : : This is scary. See where technology is taking us now. Go to : http://sites.netscape.net/zumaltsp/camera1.html and get a : picture of yourself right through your monitor. This is Big Brother : at its best or worst. Imagine what they have already seen. : Microsoft has developed this technology that dot dithers your screen : to act as a camera receptacle. As you will see, the beta web site : captures your image just as if you had the computer connected to a : video cam. This technology may have been around for months and : installed on web sites without our knowledge or permission. If so than : those web sites are capturing images of you unawares as you view your : monitor. : : : --- ONElist Sponsor : : Congratulations to RON MARTINO : This week's FRIENDS FAMILY WINNER! : To join ONElist's Friends Family program, go to http://www.onelist.com : : : _ : : "I tolerate with the utmost latitude the right of others to differ from me : in opinion" : Thomas Jefferson : : : UNTIL FURTHER NOTICE APFN ONELIST IS NOW MODERATED ** : : HAVE YOU CHECKED APFN MESSAGE BOARD TODAY? : http://www.InsideTheWeb.com/mbs.cgi/mb77532 : FIVE WAYS TO CONTACT APFN: : http://wwp.mirabilis.com/10811517#contactingme : APFN eFAX: (520) 752-7882 : : APFN CONTENTS PAGE: : http://esotericworldnews.com/apfncont.htm : === : Subscribe to APFN ONELIST: : http://www.onelist.com/subscribe.cgi/apfn : : America national motto: "IN GOD WE TRUST" : U.S. Militiary Oath ends: "So help me God." : : God Plus One is Alway A majority! : : .If God be for us, who can be against us? Romans 8:31b : : IT IS THE LAW: : "Silence can only be equated with fraud when there is a : legal or moral duty to speak, or when an inquiry left : unanswered would be intentionally misleading... We cannot : condone this shocking conduct... If this is the case we hope : our message is clear. This sort of decption will not be : torerated and if this is routine it should be corrected : immediately" : U.S. v. Twell 550 F2d 297, 299-300 : : "In a age of universal deceit, telling : the truth is a revolutionary act." : : George Orwell : : DECLARATION DISCLAIMER : == : CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic : screeds are not allowed. Substance-not soapboxing! These are sordid matters : and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright : frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects : spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL : gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; : be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and : nazi's need not apply. : : Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. : : Archives Available at: : http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html : : http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ : : To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: : SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] : : To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: : SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] : : Om : DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To
[CTRL] The strange magic of JFK Jr. (fwd)
-Caveat Lector- The "strange magic" of JFK Jr. Something was going wrong in Kennedy's life before the plane crash, says Camille Paglia, who reflects on both the charisma and the emptiness of the son of the martyred president. Long article at-- http://www.salonmagazine.com/news/feature/1999/07/23/camille/index.html = Kaddish, Kaddish, Kaddish, YHVH, TZEVAOT FROM THE DESK OF:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *Mike Spitzer* [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] The Best Way To Destroy Enemies Is To Change Them To Friends Shalom, A Salaam Aleikum, and to all, A Good Day. = DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Fwd: Cause of crash still eludes investigators
Recipients-- Following are two verbatim excerpts from a news item on Yahoo! News, Thursday, July 22. Considering how the truth is being so harshly mangled now by disinfo masters Robert Pearse of the NTSB, Clinton and others I imagine the "true" cause of the airplane's DESTRUCTION will be eluding any genuine investigators for a long time to come. John Quinn === Yahoo! News Crimes and Trials Headlines Thursday July 22 05:26 PM EDT Cause of Kennedy crash still eludes investigators By Kristin Savarese, Court TV NEW YORK (Court TV) ...What happened that night is unclear. According to Robert Pearce, who is heading the investigation for the National Transportation Safety Board, the trouble began 34 miles from the airport, with the plane descending from 5,600 feet to about 2,300 feet at a slightly faster-than-normal rate of 700 feet per minute. About 20 miles from the airport, the plane started turning to the right and climbing back to 2,600 feet. After leveling off, it flew for a short time before beginning another turn to the right and starting "a rapid rate of descent" that may have exceeded 5,000 feet per minute, or about 10 times faster than normal SNIP All of the "information" in the above two paragraphs, proffered by none other than the NTSB's Pearse, of Flight 800 coverup disgrace and infamy, is provably and demonstrably nothing other than professional and "official" disinformation, noise and static; because AGAIN, ALL these statements are completely INVALIDATED by the fact that Kennedy radioed the Vineyard airport flight controller at NINE THIRY-NINE in a TOTALLY calm, collected, and spatially VERY WELL ORIENTED state of mind; thoroughly aware of his bearings, location, direction and such and in complete command of the aircraft. This was long after whatever Pearse is babbling about supposedly even occurred--when Kennedy's craft was approximately TEN MILES from the shoreline and approximately thirteen miles from the airport. In LIGHT of this radio contact--to assume that Kennedy would be so completely out of touch with reality as to be unaware of his ALTITUDE and some supposed constant decrease thereof over a fairly long period of time is truly LUDICROUS! Determining one's altitude is accomplished by looking at one's altimeter. This relatively simple action (even I could do it!), of course, would NOT affected by any TOTALLY SPECULATIVE supposed spatial disorientation Kennedy could supposedly have been experiencing. If his altimeter wasn't working naturally this serious problem would have been noted in the his radio call And now another excerpt from the same article, regarding the flight controller and the FAA's incredible, inexplicable delay in initiating emergency search procedures. John Quinn ...US aviation authorities have come under fire for the delay in starting a search The Piper Saratoga II vanished from radar at 9:40 p.m., but an official search did not begin until 3:28 a.m. when a Kennedy friend put in a frantic call to the Coast Guard that triggered the "search and rescue." Four hours before that call, however, 21-year-old Adam Budd, an intern at Martha's Vineyard airport, had called the airport tower and then the Federal Aviation Administration's air traffic control facility in Bridgeport, Conn., inquiring about the plane for people waiting to meet the overdue trio. An unidentified official shrugged off the inquiry, telling Budd information could not be released over the phone. The FAA will not provide flight information about private citizens over the telephone, a spokesman said, and the Connecticut station acted appropriately, the Los Angeles Times reported. (Like the LA Times is the official authority or something? Yeah RIGHT! [JQ]) But an unidentified FAA source, cited in Thursday's Boston Globe, said the agency was considering disciplinary action against the FAA employee for not coming forward about the call when it became clear the plane was missing. SNIP The indication in the beginning of the second paragraph of this excerpt, that the first call to the FAA was not made until well after ELEVEN PM, is yet another history rewrite: as previous reports indicated the first call by Adam Budd was made at least an hour before this, shortly after TEN PM. As for the rest of this second excerpt, it is obviously at least relatively true and really speaks for itself. Something very rotten in the state. John Quinn/NewsHawk Inc.
[CTRL] Fwd: JFk Jr.-WHAT WRECKAGE!!
7.24.99
Recipients--
The following forward of an email received by NewsHawk brings up yet
ANOTHER suspicious, questionable and contradictory aspect of the JFK
Jr. plane crash (Let's see... HOW many is that now???). Namely: WHY
have we not seen A SHRED of the wreckage from JFK Jr.'s plane?
WHY is it SO important that reporters, photographs and TV news crews
must not see, witness, film or photograph the merest speck of this
"wreckage?" WHAT in God's name could POSSIBLY be so unusual about this
material that it's SO CRITICAL the press--and thereby the public--do not
see ANY OF IT AT ALL?
In regard to this, please read this forwarded email below.
AND, as to Kennedy's "SUPPOSED" "risk-taking" gene Gee, could that
POSSIBLY actually mean that he might have been what they USED to call a
born "LEADER"??? You know, the kind which could represent a MORTAL
THREAT to the "fascist-communist" totalitarian vermin so dominant in the
varying New World Order factions now savaging the human race and the
planet on which we all live.
Cause for thought.
John Quinn/NewsHawk Inc.
-- Original Message
Subject: VIDEO OF WRECKAGE - COVERED WITH BLUE TARP
Date: Sat, 24 Jul 1999 00:33:29 -0700
From: xxx
Reply-To: xxx
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
John,
I just saw a video clip on local station KCPQ-TV13 - a FOX Network
outlet here in the Seattle area - they briefly showed a crane lifting a
large piece of wreckage (unidentifiable) onto the Grasp (sp?) -- then --
and this is the hot part -- video footage of a white cab truck with
flatbed and rails, like a farmers truck, after dark with two individuals
in the cab purportedly transporting the wreckage of the airplane -- it
was all covered and roped down with a large blue tarp so no one could
see any part of it -- WHY THE SECRECY??? What is it about this wreckage
of an airplane they don't want the public to see??? Could it be the
tell-tale signs of a sudden catastrophic incident, like an on board
explosion or a missile shootdown, the evidence of which would be clearly
visible if the wreckage were uncovered??? And, where were they taking
the wreckage???
"Reason obeys itself; and ignorance does whatever is dictated to it."
--Thomas Paine, Rights of Man ("Conclusion")
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--Marbury v. Madison, 5 U.S. (2 Cranch) 137 (1803)
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