[CTRL] [JBirch] Law of the Sea treaty would prohibit pumping water out of New Orleans (fwd)
-Caveat Lector- Remember:More people have died in Ted Kennedy's car than have died in United States Commercial Nuclear Power plant operations visit my web site at http://www.info-quest.org Visit my energy page at http://www.info-quest.org/Energy.html Check out the latest on the anwr drilling project http://www.anwr.org visit my blog at http://info-spectrum.blogspot.com My ICQ# is 79071904 See the Pledge of alleginace to the flag that the 9th circuit court of appeals doesn't want you to say. for a precise list of the powers of the Federal Government linkto: http://www.info-quest.org/Enumerated.html -- Forwarded message -- Date: Sat, 1 Oct 2005 08:34:50 -0400 (EDT) From: Marv Graham [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [JBirch] Law of the Sea treaty would prohibit pumping water out of New Orleans Here is an the start of an article on this subject: - Since it seems the only news fit to print (or air) these days has to do with Hurricane Katrina and its aftermath, finding a related angle to call needed public and leadership attention to something else requires a little ingenuity. But since the stakes associated with another, largely unremarked story -- involving a drama that will reach its denouement at United Nations headquarters this week -- may be nothing less than the future sovereignty and character of the United States, a way must be found. As it happens, the answer lies in the toxic liquid now being pumped out of New Orleans into waterways that will, inexorably, contaminate the international reaches of Gulf of Mexico, and perhaps beyond. The United States unilaterally determined this potentially huge environmental damage is justified by the need to recover and restore a major American city, its population and economy. Interestingly, shortly before Katrina precipitated this crisis, a gaggle of former senior government officials wrote Senate Majority Leader Bill Frist demanding he swiftly effect ratification of the controversial Law of the Sea Treaty (or LOST) accord. The authors dismissed concerns of conservatives that LOST would impinge upon U.S. sovereignty and vital interests. If the United States were a party to the Law of the Sea Treaty today though, it is very likely America would be enjoined from dumping New Orleans' toxic stew into Lake Pontchartrain and the Mississippi River. For one thing, this would violate the Treaty's environmental obligations to protect marine life and its habitats, obligations whose sweep makes those of the Kyoto Treaty seem modest by comparison. - Read it all at http://www.washtimes.com/commentary/20050912-090351-9594r.htm Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- 1.2 million kids a year are victims of human trafficking. Stop slavery. http://us.click.yahoo.com/X3SVTD/izNLAA/E2hLAA/1dTolB/TM ~- The opinions expressed on this forum are those of the authors of the articles posted. The John Birch Society has no responsibility for anything that is posted in this forum. The OFFICIAL John Birch Society web page is a www.jbs.org Visit The New American at www.thenewamerican.com for accurate information. The only thing necessary for evil to triumph is for good men to do nothing. Edmund Burke 1729-1797 Get FAST unlimited reliable uncensored internet service for $9.95 per month No Setup Fees. No Contracts. No limit on email groups. 5 email accounts at no additional cost. Click here now http://www.getmysmartisp.net Fastest Dialup Connection available. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/JBirch/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ www.ctrl.org DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substanceânot soap-boxingâplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'âwith its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsâis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/ctrl@listserv.aol.com/ A HREF=http://www.mail-archive.com/ctrl@listserv.aol.com/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL]
[CTRL] [JBirch] Environmentalists have blocked past attempts to reinforce New Orleans levees. (fwd)
-Caveat Lector- Remember:More people have died in Ted Kennedy's car than have died in United States Commercial Nuclear Power plant operations visit my web site at http://www.info-quest.org Visit my energy page at http://www.info-quest.org/Energy.html Check out the latest on the anwr drilling project http://www.anwr.org visit my blog at http://info-spectrum.blogspot.com My ICQ# is 79071904 See the Pledge of alleginace to the flag that the 9th circuit court of appeals doesn't want you to say. for a precise list of the powers of the Federal Government linkto: http://www.info-quest.org/Enumerated.html -- Forwarded message -- Date: Sat, 1 Oct 2005 08:20:15 -0400 (EDT) From: Marv Graham [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [JBirch] Environmentalists have blocked past attempts to reinforce New Orleans levees. Here is an excerpt from an article that discusses this: --- Environmental pressure groups used the National Environmental Policy Act (NEPA) to block levee protection from hurricanes for New Orleans, according to a congressional task force quoted in today's Washington Times. A spokesman for the House Task Force on Improving the National Environmental Policy Act, which meets again on Saturday, said the Sierra Club, Save the Wetlands, and other environmentalist groups twice blocked efforts to raise and fortify levees around New Orleans, first in 1977 and again in 1996, both times invoking provisions in the 35-year- old NEPA law. -- Read the article at http://www.freemarketnews.com/WorldNews.asp?nid=972 Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- DonorsChoose.org helps at-risk students succeed. Fund a student project today! http://us.click.yahoo.com/O4u7KD/FpQLAA/E2hLAA/1dTolB/TM ~- The opinions expressed on this forum are those of the authors of the articles posted. The John Birch Society has no responsibility for anything that is posted in this forum. The OFFICIAL John Birch Society web page is a www.jbs.org Visit The New American at www.thenewamerican.com for accurate information. The only thing necessary for evil to triumph is for good men to do nothing. Edmund Burke 1729-1797 Get FAST unlimited reliable uncensored internet service for $9.95 per month No Setup Fees. No Contracts. No limit on email groups. 5 email accounts at no additional cost. Click here now http://www.getmysmartisp.net Fastest Dialup Connection available. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/JBirch/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ www.ctrl.org DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substanceânot soap-boxingâplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'âwith its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsâis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/ctrl@listserv.aol.com/ A HREF=http://www.mail-archive.com/ctrl@listserv.aol.com/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Jailed Pedophile Guilty in 1998 Murder of Boy
-Caveat Lector- scroll this one fwd from L Moss Sharman Jailed Pedophile Guilty in 1998 Murder of Boy, 12 By Barbara Whitaker 9/29/05 "A man described as a classic sexual predator who is already serving time for sexually abusing a dozen teenage boys was found guilty yesterday of the kidnapping and murder of a 12-year-old Yonkers boy found buried in a shallow grave in Dobbs Ferry more than six years ago. The murder of the boy, Orlandito Rosario-Maldonado, which shocked Westchester, went unsolved for years before investigators compiled enough evidence to arrest Robert D. DeRosario, a suspect from the beginning.The boy was last seen on Nov. 2, 1998, in Mr. DeRosario's apartment building after getting a haircut. The investigation into his death led authorities to a world of child sexual exploitation, and nine men, including Mr. DeRosario, were ultimately arrested on charges that they sexually abused boys in Westchester County. Among them were public officials and corporate executives. Mr. DeRosario admitted to sexually attacking 12 boys, ranging in age from 13 to 19, and pleaded guilty to 12 counts of sodomy, sex abuse and endangering a child. In July 2000 he was sentenced to 10 years in prison. "This case opened up a world of pedophiles we were able to identify," Ms. Pirro said. "But for the longest time we didn't have sufficient evidence to bring murder charges against the individual who killed Orlandito."he boy's body was badly decomposed and, aside from the fact that he was strangled by a piece of rope similar to some found in Mr. DeRosario's apartment, there was little physical evidence. http://www.nytimes.com/2005/09/29/nyregion/29slay.html www.ctrl.org DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion & informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substanceânot soap-boxingâplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'âwith its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsâis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/ctrl@listserv.aol.com/ A HREF=""ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Interste oil and gas commission pushes Arctic National Wildlife Reserve development
-Caveat Lector- back to anwr.org Interstate Oil and Gas Commission Pushes ANWR Development Today the Interstate Oil and Gas Compact Commission (IOGCC) passed a resolution today supporting responsible development of the Coastal Plain of ANWR. The IOGCC represents the Governors of all the oil and gas producing states in America (30 full members and 7 associate state members). The IOGCC noted the education of the American people as to the importance of oil and gas to the nation is critically important to America solving its energy crisis. A statement released by the IOGCC reads below. FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE September 28, 2005 IOGCC RESOLUTIONS URGE CONGRESS TO ACT ON VITAL ENERGY ISSUES OKLAHOMA CITY The Interstate Oil and Gas Compact Commission passed five resolutions at its recent Annual Meeting that focus the organizations efforts on issues that are vital to the nations energy future. One resolution passed by IOGCC officials calls on government leaders to adequately fund and recognize the importance of oil and gas research initiatives. Major U.S. oil and gas companies no longer make their comprehensive oil and gas research available, and independent companies generally lack the capability and capacity to conduct their own research, thereby impacting the nations ability to effectively and efficiently develop domestic oil and gas resources, said Christine Hansen, IOGCC executive director. In a resolution to open the Coastal Plain of the Arctic National Wildlife Refuge to hydrocarbon exploration and development, IOGCC officials will advocate to the President and Congress the importance of increased domestic energy production to reduce dependence on foreign oil supplies. The IOGCC supports conservation and the use of alternative fuels, but recognizes that for the foreseeable future increased oil production is needed to fuel the nations transportation system, said Hansen. Advanced technology has greatly reduced the footprint needed for development. If Prudhoe Bay were developed today, the footprint would be 64 percent smaller, she noted. The organization also agreed to support the development of a program that includes a voluntary, industry-funded education program to increase awareness and educate the public about the importance of oil and natural gas as an energy source. In addition, IOGCC resolved to continue to identify petroleum manpower and research needs, and will recommend that Congress encourage institutions of higher learning to increase both the number of students in programs and scholarships available for petroleum-specific degrees. Lastly, the organization passed a resolution that requests the U.S. Environmental Protection Agency reconsider implementation of stormwater Phase II requirements for construction sites. Under the Clean Water Act, a permit is not required for discharges of uncontaminated stormwater runoff. The IOGCC will urge EPA to review its pending internal policy and guidance on regulation of stormwater discharge during construction associated with oil and gas activities; provide states and other stakeholders the opportunity to comment on future proposed requirements; and complete an analysis of potential positive or negative impacts on the environment. The IOGCC also is seeking an analysis of potential costs and benefits to the states, the oil and gas industry, and the citizens before any further stormwater regulations are implemented. Representing the governors of 30 member and seven associate states, the IOGCC champions the conservation and efficient recovery of the nations oil and natural gas resources while protecting health, safety and the environment. Established by the charter member states governors in 1935, it is the oldest, largest and most effective interstate compact in the nation. :: Posted on September 10, 2005 :: :: Other Resources... Structured Settlements - cash for structured settlements, sell annuity, lottery winnings, and more. View our ANWR Flash Movie! Search Web anwr.org Ten reasons to support responsible oil development in Arctic National Wildlife Refuge View our ANWR Powerpoint Presentation ANWR Quicklinks Media Kit Remember:More people have died in Ted Kennedy's car than have died in United States Commercial Nuclear Power plant operations visit my web site at http://www.info-quest.org Visit my energy page at http://www.info-quest.org/Energy.html Check out the latest on the anwr drilling project http://www.anwr.org visit my blog at http://info-spectrum.blogspot.com My ICQ# is 79071904 See the Pledge of alleginace to the flag that the 9th circuit court of appeals doesn't want you to say. for a precise list of the powers of the Federal Government linkto: http://www.info-quest.org/Enumerated.html www.ctrl.org DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substanceânot soap-boxingâplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy
[CTRL] Fwd: EU and U.S. clash over control of Net
-Caveat Lector- Begin forwarded message:From: Jonathan Markowitz [EMAIL PROTECTED]Date: October 1, 2005 9:57:33 AM PDTTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: EU and U.S. clash over control of Net http://www.thetruthseeker.co.uk/article.asp?ID=3645 http://www.thetruthseeker.co.uk/print.asp?ID=3645 http://www.iht.com/articles/2005/09/29/business/net.php http://www.iht.com/bin/print_ipub.php?file=/articles/2005/09/29/business/net.phpEU and U.S. clash over control of Net Tom Wright – International Herald Tribune September 30, 2005GENEVA The United States and Europe clashed here Thursday in one of their sharpest public disagreements in months, after European Union negotiators proposed stripping the Americans of their effective control of the Internet. The European decision to back the rest of the world in demanding the creation of a new international body to govern the Internet clearly caught the Americans off balance and left them largely isolated at talks designed to come up with a new way of regulating the digital traffic of the 21st century. "It's a very shocking and profound change of the EU's position," said David Gross, the State Department official in charge of America's international communications policy. "The EU's proposal seems to represent an historic shift in the regulatory approach to the Internet from one that is based on private sector leadership to a government, top-down control of the Internet." Delegates meeting in Geneva for the past two weeks had been hoping to reach consensus for a draft document by Friday after two years of debate. The talks on international digital issues, called the World Summit on the Information Society and organized by the United Nations, were scheduled to conclude in November at a meeting in Tunisia. Instead, the talks have deadlocked, with the United States fighting a solitary battle against countries that want to see a global body take over supervision of the Internet. The United States lost its only ally late Wednesday when the EU made a surprise proposal to create an intergovernmental body that would set principles for running the Internet. Currently, the U.S. Commerce Department approves changes to the Internet's "root zone files," which are administered by the Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers, or Icann, a nonprofit organization based in Marina del Rey, California. Political unease with the U.S. approach, symbolized by opposition to the war in Iraq, has spilled over into these technical discussions, delegates said. The EU and developing nations, they added, wanted to send a signal to America that it could not run things alone. Opposition to Washington's continued dominance of the Internet was illustrated by a statement released last week by the Brazilian delegation to the talks. "On Internet governance, three words tend to come to mind: lack of legitimacy. In our digital world, only one nation decides for all of us." In its new proposal, the EU said the new body could set guidelines on who gets control of what Internet address - the main mechanism for finding information across the global network - and could play a role in helping to set up a system for resolving disputes. "The role of governments in the new cooperation model should be mainly focused on principle issues of public policy, excluding any involvement in the day-to-day operations," the proposal said. The new model "should not replace existing mechanisms or institutions," it added. The proposal was vague but left open the possibility, fiercely opposed by Washington, that the United Nations itself could have some future governing role. The United States has sharply criticized demands, like one made last week by Iran, for a UN body to govern the Internet, Gross said. "No intergovernmental body should control the Internet," he said, "whether it's the UN or any other." U.S. officials argue that a system like the one proposed by the EU would lead to unwanted bureaucratization of the Internet. "I think the U.S. is overreacting," said David Hendon, a spokesman for the EU delegation. "But I think it's a tactical overreaction for the negotiations," he added. "We expected this proposal to move the summit along from the stalemate," Hendon said. "It is unreasonable to leave in the hands of the U.S. the power to decide what happens with the Internet in other countries." Various groups, including the International Telecommunication Union, a UN agency based in Geneva, have suggested that the U.S. government has too much control over the Internet. Under the terms of a 1998 memorandum of understanding, Icann was to gain its independence from the Commerce Department by September 2006. But the Bush administration said in July that the United States would "maintain its historic role in authorizing changes or modifications to the authoritative root zone file." In so doing, the government "intends to preserve the security and stability" of the technical underpinnings of the
[CTRL] Fwd: As Blair's Ivory Tower is Toppled , Brits See Bush's House Come Tumbling Down Too
-Caveat Lector- Begin forwarded message: WHITE HOUSE UNDER SIEGE AFTER DELAY'S DOWNFALL By Rupert Cornwell in Washington The Independent (UK), 30 September 2005 Tom DeLay's indictment and resignation as House majority leader has sent tremors through the White House and the Republican establishment here, raising fears that the Party's 11-year grip on the House could be ended by the congressional mid-term elections in November 2006. Mr DeLay's departure deprives the party of arguably its most powerful figure on Capitol Hill, an unmatched political organiser and enforcer who has done more than anyone to drive President George Bush's agenda through a bitterly divided and partisan Congress. But not only on Capitol Hill has he ruled the Republican flock with a rod of iron. The 58-year old Texas congressman has also been a prime architect of his party's so-called K Street Project, using a combination of carrots and sticks to place Republicans at the head of the lobbying firms and business interest groups which play a central role in shaping legislation here. Even Democratic opponents who detest him grudgingly admit there has been no more effective majority leader from either party in the past 20 years. But for Republicans the affair of Mr Delay - charged with criminal conspiracy over alleged illegal campaign fundraising for the 2002 elections to the Texas state legislature - is only the latest in a series of ethics controversies involving major party figures, stretching from Capitol Hill and the lobbying industry into the White House itself. Known as the Hammer for his ruthless style, Mr DeLay helped to create the current Republican golden age in Washington. He was a close lieutenant of the former speaker Newt Gingrich, who led the party to victory in the 1994 mid-term elections, by seizing on public discontent with an entrenched, corrupt and complacent Democratic majority. The wheel may now be turning full circle. The host of scandals now threatens to tar the Republicans in exactly the same fashion. Just like Republicans 11 years ago, Democrats scent blood. The DeLay affair, said the House minority leader Nancy Pelosi, is the latest example that Republicans in Congress are plagued by a culture of corruption. The pile of supporting evidence for that claim is growing almost by the day. From a Republican perspective, the best hope is that Mr DeLay himself will be sidelined for only a few weeks. At worst, however, he could find himself being handcuffed and photographed as an alleged felon. Meanwhile Bill Frist, his counterpart in the Senate, is under separate federal investigation for suspected insider trading, in connection with the sale of shares in his family hospital company shortly before the stock price fell sharply. Like Mr DeLay, Mr Frist denies any wrongdoing, but the very fact of an investigation is embarrassment enough. Related trouble is brewing on the lobbying front. Jack Abramoff, a disgraced Republican lobbyist who once had close ties to Mr DeLay, has been charged with fraud, and may be tempted to incriminate leading party figures as part of a plea bargain with FBI investigators. The same goes for David Safavian, a former White House budget aide who resigned earlier this month,days before he was indicted for perjury and obstructing the Abramoff inquiry. That case has only escaped wider coverage because it has been overshadowed by greater disasters for Mr Bush in the most troubled spell of his presidency. They include the seemingly intractable insurgency in Iraq, his inept response to Hurricane Katrina, and public disgruntlement at soaring petrol and fuel prices, always an especially sensitive issue for a US leader. Meanwhile the White House is bracing for the conclusion of the investigation by an independent prosecutor into the leak of the name of the CIA operative Valerie Plame, which has already seen Karl Rove and other senior administration officials testifying before a federal grand jury. Congressional Republican leaders have replaced Mr DeLay with the Missouri congressman Roy Blunt on a temporary basis - on the assumption that the Texan's protestations of innocence are true and that he will be speedily exonerated. But Mr Blunt is under a small ethics shadow of his own. According to the Associated Press, records on file with the Federal Election Commission show that Mr Blunt's political action committee has paid some $88,000 (£50,000) in fees since 2003 to a consultant facing indictment in Texas in the DeLay case. Tom DeLay's indictment and resignation as House majority leader has sent tremors through the White House and the Republican establishment here, raising fears that the party's 11-year grip on the House could be ended by the congressional mid-term elections in November 2006. Mr DeLay's departure deprives the party of
[CTRL] Fw: [stopnato] 'Either Ireland Declaring War On Iraq Or Not': US Military Flights At Record Level
-Caveat Lector- Forward from mart via Rick Rozoff and Stop NATO http://groups.yahoo.com/group/stopnato [stopnato] 'Either Ireland Declaring War On Iraq Or Not': US Military Flights At Record Level Ireland Online -Oct. 1, 2005 http://breakingnews.iol.ie/news/story.asp?j=157620854p=y576zy56x More US military flights entering Irish airspace [ "Either Ireland is declaring war on Iraq, or Irelandis not declaring war on Iraq. The Taoiseach must make up his mind, and present the case to the Oireachtas if he wants to continue facilitating the progress of machines of war through our country"] The number of US military flights passing over Irelandthis year is on course to exceed the 2004 total, itemerged today. The Government has given permission for 964overflights so far this year, according to figuresreleased by Department of Transport. With three months remaining, the number of flightsgranted permission in 2005 is set to easily top the2004 total of 973. Labour Party Dublin South East TD Ruairi Quinn slammed the Government for their ever-increasing complicity in the war in Iraq. Mr Quinn said the Irish taxpayer will pay almost 5m Euros in charges for these flights this year alone - up from3.5m Eurosin 2004. "The statistics I received from Minister Cullen showthat already this year he has given permission for 964over-flights. This is almost the same as last year'stotal of 973," he said. "In addition to these appalling facts, I have alsolearned that neither the Customs Excise Department,the Gardaí nor the Defence Forces have examined orintend to examine a single aircraft landing at ourairports or at Casement Aerodrome to ensure that thedeclarations regarding weapons and passengers arecorrect. "This is extraordinary considering the evidence thatexists indicating that people have been illegallykidnapped and transported through Ireland todestinations unknown for torture." Mr Quinn said it was a disgrace that Taoiseach Bertie Ahern was not only ignoring Ireland's complicity in this illegal war, but increasing it on a regular basis. "Already, we are about to pass the total for 2004, andwe are only three-quarters through the year," he said. "Either Ireland is declaring war on Iraq, or Irelandis not declaring war on Iraq. The Taoiseach must makeup his mind, and present the case to the Oireachtas ifhe wants to continue facilitating the progress ofmachines of war through our country. "There have been international reports which statethat prisoners have been illegally transported to theGuantanamo Bay base. Many may have passed through Shannon or Baldonnell, making Ireland a party to a breach of International Law." == To visit your group on the web, go to:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/stopnato To subscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] === www.ctrl.org DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion & informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substanceânot soap-boxingâplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'âwith its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsâis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/ctrl@listserv.aol.com/ A HREF=""ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Israelis Ram Jap Ship - Kill Seven
-Caveat Lector- Haaretz Israeli ship suspected of ramming Japanese fishing boat, killing seven By Uri Blau and Ora CorenHaaretz Correspondents and Agencies SAPPORO, Japan - An Israeli ship is the main suspect in a hit-and-run accident with a Japanese fishing boat, in which seven fishermen were killed, Japanese media reported yesterday. The accident took place four days ago near Hokkaido, Japan's northern island. The Israeli ship, Zim Asia, allegedly sped away from the scene of the accident without reporting the collision or trying to assist the fishermen. Fishing radars showed a ship passed through the accident site early Wednesday, and suddenly changed direction, according to Japanese coast guard spokesman Osamu Kon. Coast guard planes later sighted the Israeli container vessel in nearby waters. The South Koreans told Japan, which investigated the whereabouts of several ships seen in the area, that an Israeli ship showing signs of a collision had docked in the southern South Korean port of Busan on Friday, coast guard spokesman Osamu Kon said. The ship's Israeli crew members were questioned by Korean police and reportedly refused to cooperate and only agreed to give up their travel log after a long argument. The South Korean authorities suspected the ship had been involved in an accident, but the ship's captain Moshe Ben David insisted he didn't feel any collision, according to an official at South Korea's Busan Coast Guard. When asked if his ship traveled near Hokkaido, Ben David replied, I don't know a place called Hokkaido. Yesterday the ship left Korea for an unknown destination. The Korean official said it was not detained because the accident did not occur in Korea's territorial waters and Korea had no authority to detain it or to conduct investigations. Zim Asia has collision marks along 30 meters with white paint marks identical with the color of the Japanese fishing boat. South Korea police have sent Japanese police a paint sample, a copy of the boat's travel log and its GPS records. A Zim spokesman said yesterday that Zim Asia was now on its way from South Korea to Shanghai. The boat's captain has informed the Zim headquarters in Haifa that his ship was not involved in the fishing boat accident. The boat started its trip in mid-September in Seattle and is scheduled to return there after reaching Shanghai. Israel's ambassador to Japan, Eli Cohen, confirmed that the embassy has been briefed on the matter, which is currently being handled from Israel. Cohen added that Japanese officials have yet to contact the embassy regarding the incident. Foreign Ministry officials say they are checking on the incident in conjunction with Japanese authorities as well as Zim. The seven Japanese crew members of No. 3 Shinseimaru, which overturned about 40 kilometers off Hokkaido's cape of Nosappu before dawn last Wednesday, were all residents of Hokkaido. The only survivor, Kanama Fujisato, 53, said that he was asleep when the collision took place and awoke from a hard bump in the board. Immediately after the bump the boat capsized. It happened in two to three minutes. I was in water up to my shoulders but managed to grasp a life vest that floated in my direction. For hours I beat on the sides of the boat with a board. When I heard a similar noise outside the boat I thought I might survive after all, he said. We are acting on suspicions that the Israeli ship was involved, but we've reached no definite conclusions yet, said Kon. www.ctrl.org DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substanceânot soap-boxingâplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'âwith its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsâis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/ctrl@listserv.aol.com/ A HREF=http://www.mail-archive.com/ctrl@listserv.aol.com/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om